1/definitely Maybe 2/dog man star 3/ second coming 4/ Parklife 5/ Dummy 6/ I should Coco 7/ Wildwood 8/ music for the gilted generation 9/ give out but don’t give up 10/the holy bible
Classic Suede. Still listen to Dog Man a lot. Just brilliant. Their new album is good, but obviously differentl. The first three songs on Night Thoughts are exceptional. The way Outsiders comes in immediately from When We Are Young makes your hair stand on end. No tomorrow is excellent too. It loses speed a little bit picks up again on track 6 with All Im Trying To Tell You. Suede are still making great music 20 years later when most bands have long since evaporated. Suede are still the greatest British band..... 'His clothes are covered in dew As she writhes in twisted sheetsFeel the pulse and the power of you...'
I'd forgotten this was a single - I thought it was more of an album track (not commercial enough). Still magnificent though. Dog Man Star is the album of the '90s, in my humble opinion.
@@TheAdArchive New Generation was a single, maybe you meant it would have been a better lead single. But looking at the album I think Heroine would have made a better single than WatP, but Brett was insistant that it should be the first thing people hear, he was making some sort of statement, which I don't really get. He may have refined that same statment into Trash two years on.
Still can't get over this clip, which I somehow missed when it was transmitted. In my opinion this is one of the most incongruous, subversive, wonderful moments in TOTP's history. Very dark, JG Ballard - informed song about urban dystopia with a stark studio backdrop - a million miles from the cosy kitsch that the show is mainly remembered for. Great television from one of the greatest British bands.
***** I agree, the whole Blur vs. Oasis hype was at its peak, and the media made them the representatives of Britpop more than Suede (and possibly Pulp). The fact that Suede were so keen to distance themselves from the then current scene was also obviously important. It also meant that they had even less chance of breaking America, but then none of the key bands managed to do that well over there. Dog Man Star is my album of the 90s.
+The Bruce is loose Coming Up was a career-saving album for everyone involved - with Butler gone the band had to prove themselves all over again, and thankfully Oakes was up to the task (I saw him play one of his first gigs with Suede - the crowd were willing him to be good, which he definitely was). Anderson knew the importance of the album, and basically wanted it to be a "greatest hits" type of record, i.e. more commercial than DMS, which was seen as a move towards Britpop by many. Still very Bowie-influenced, thankfully.
Listening Bernard playing for example Heroine just before they broke up makes me wonder how near Suede was to Bowie-Ronson era in early 70's. Bernies muscular guitar sound and Brett singin some high pitch parts makes the ultimate Suede live sound to me. Not saying it's necessary to use so much distortion but it worked with Bowie and Ronson - and it worked with Suede in early days. Some time it's the contrast that works so well. Bernie has his own very recognizable style of playing guitar.
Interesting that Anderson is not just lip syncing here, which most artists do on TOTP. Wonder if he demanded to have a live mic or if they offer it up.
It seems to me a spectacular theme. Good memories has brought me. I remember seeing an interview that the great Brett Aguero said that We Are The Pigs was the preferred subject for all the jewelry that the band SUEDE have given us. Very good. Tony and forgive for English.
The one that started 12 year old me on the road to Indie music. I had no idea who Suede were (except animal nitrate on my smash hits 93 cassette) but this track felt so different and dangerous. Opened my mind.
I can't believe Richard had joined this lot when I was just starting College and my apprenticeship we are exactly the same age it seems almost impossible.
@Weirdbald I would not disagree with you. Huge, over the top and decadent, it was totally out of step with the lagered up, laddish britpop scene, and all the better for it. I vividly remember watching this when it was broadcast, aged 15, and being a little pissed off that I didn't get to be in Suede instead of Richard.
They did bring a synth and keyboards in so it didn't give Richard as much freedom to do what he does best, but he does have his moments on Coming Up. Songs like the b-side Together proves that Richard was just as capable of writing songs which suit Suede as much as Bernard was able to. Bernard wasn't necessarily bad, but he was just incredibly sloppy. I believe it was nervousness on his part, but he hid behind so much distortion and overdrive on his guitar it was unreal.
@Rzeczywistosc Exactly, Bernard didn't care about sounding perfect or being technical. Music was a form or expression for him, it is what made him so exciting.
He could rarely play the Animal Nitrate solo, and live performances of Stay Together would involve Bernard attempting to improvise and not doing a particularly good job. Don't get me wrong, Bernard was a brilliant guitarist and I'd still take Dog Man Star over any Suede album, but I feel he was just far better in the studio than he was live. He nailed those guitar tones perfectly in the studio.
The audience are told to keep the whoops and cheers to a minimum during the performance and are then told to scream and cheers by a sign in lights as the song ends.
They lowered the sound of the guitar maybe. Richard did a good job but it just wasn't Bernard and how is he playing a guitar without a tremelo arm when the music has one?? Hmmmmm.
I agree Richard is better technically. The thing is that after Bernard left Suede turned to less guitar-driven music and Richard hasnt got as much chances to prove his invention as Bernard had. But, tell me. When did you heard Bernard playing bad live?
Also, Bernard mentions as he was the only guitarist, when he'd play a lead guitar part live, he'd hit multiple strings whilst playing it, in an attempt at making it a rhythm/lead sort of thing, but to me it just makes it all sound muddy, clumsy and just generally bad. I guess I just find myself watching the 1995 Asphalt World live performance at the Phoenix Festival and see Richard nailing absolutely every solo perfectly, and wonder to myself is Bernard could do as well live. Probably not..
Uh, I think you'll find Richard Oakes was technically the better guitarist. I'm so sick of people putting Bernard Butler on the pedestal when the guy couldn't play live for shit. Richard Oakes was a much tighter guitarist overall.
XellKamikaze Who really cares. Bernard was an amazing songwriter and guitarist, whether one is better than the other I dont care. The songwriting got very muddled once Bernard left and the chemistry between him and Brett was missing from the band, but still made good music
