the book in the video on the ground was a book from one of the evil Soofiyah....you really think the Quran would be treated like that...NO!....rather we treat the books of Ahlul bidah like this
Abdul Ghous what do you know about the people of Allah and who said you were born with the birth right to criticise them. You can't even reach the dust under the feets of the Awlia Allah and you call the followers of Abdul Qadir jilani (RA) evil. Screw you!!! If anywhere you had the mentality to search for the real sufiyat search for "Sheikh Effendi" before judging, much appreciated !
@@iecsao *Shaikh Abdul Qadir jilani Rahimullah written in his book kitab Gunniyatu Twaleebin Ahle sunnat is only and only for Ahlul Hadees..* soil is pure as you can do tayyamum from it.
Neither am I Sufi nor Salafi/Wahhabi. But it’s clear to me that the Salafis are greater fools then the Sufis. They are Mujassimah & kuffar in my estimation. Moreover they claim to follow the salaf but reject the only Tabi’ whose books are available to us: Abu Hanifa (RA). The only person they come with is the Mujassim & Mubtadi’ Ibn Taymiyyah, who had psychological problems and never travelled for knowledge nor did he ever marry, and died in prison after doing multiple Tawbas. He abandoned the prophets sunnah & denigrated the Sahaba including the Ahl up Bait... including Ali (AS) and Uthman (RA).
but he is not using his mind. the Prophet never meant what he (guy in this video) is saying, will you ever pray on dust, sand or mud ? NO ! do mosques have dust sand and mud as prayer mats ? NO ! the area must be clean where you pray. Thats why you roll out a carpet and pray. The prophet (pbuh) meant it like the whole world is pure for us to pray, but you still need a clean surface to pray on (which ever part of the whole world Allah has given us) where ever you are.
I love salafi manhaj, because they have proof and the explanation is straight forward and clear view of understanding, not like others sects they have proof but the opinions is base on self emotions and desires... salaf is the way of correct understanding of Islam not less and not extreme... May Allah grant us more understanding
Sects adapt the deen according to their will, the point of Islam is to change ourselves according to Islam, that is the only way we can go to jannah inshaAllah
I used to be sufi without me knowing as there were o salafis then I went with the tabligis who are sufis then one day in the mosque while I was with the tabligis I saw a group in the masjid a young man was talking so I went and listened and found this man was giving hadith with sanad and giving hadith with proof not just mumble jumble and he was against extremists the more I listened the more enlightened I became not to abuse other religions but show them the mistakes in their religions so I became a salafi follower I threw al the cassettes of those takfiri ulama of the Muslim brotherhood who poisoned the mind's of our children and followed this middle ground religion they are against any sort of violence to respect our leaders and trust Allah they say not to associate anything with Allah is that hard all the prophets were sent to say that Allah is one and not to associate anything with Allah people start to brand them Wahhabis and everything else the Muslim brotherhood murder them so my brother in Sudan keep up the good work Allahu akbar
Say "I'm a salafi" not "'a salafi follower"',because a salafi refer to the one who follows the salaf may Allah be pleased with them..May Allah bless you brother.
Kamran Al Afghani Picking up any hadith doesn't prove you're on haqq. Anyone could do it otherwise then come up with their own sects. First thing first. Go by the schools of fiqh, not just Sahih Bukhari
AsSalam Alikum , akhi u are from Africa I guess and a student of knowledge Subhan Allah may Allah bless for what u do and make us come with good deeds with sincerity to him.
It is permisible for a blind man to be imam. Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) appointed Ibn Umm Makhtum as a imam in Medina in the time of battles. This is recorded in Sunnan Abu Dawud and Tarikh Al-Tabari for exemple.
Masallah how humble these brothers are sitting in scorching sun and learning the truth while on other side we have dumb heads convention like ISNA with mix gathering and lavish arrangements even with all the resource they are still away from the truth.
Don't be causing Fitnah, even Harun alaihi salaam didn't cause fitnah when they brought out the Jasad Golden Calf. Fear Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala. "And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided."
Subhanallah sheikh I want more munazra like this please could you refer me share me vedio having English translated I don't know Arabic language from India shukriya jazakal khair
Syed Mohammed Faizuddin bhai brother I am also a beginner, can you please tell me where from you are learning arabic, that will be of some help.. jazakAllahu khayr
Asalam u alaikukum osama nadeem bhai, ha urdu samajh aati hai aur Jinab aamir sohail sahb jo ki sami sahb ke shagird hai unke lessons on lisanul arab bhi dekhay, mashaAllah he has covered nicely, even I have aamir sohail sahb book which are actually his notes BUT woh bakool unki khali quran majeed samajne mei kuch madad de sakte hain baaki conversational arabic jaise ki yeh is video ma kar rahi hei itna fluent insaan woh videos dekh kar shayad nahi ban sakta hai.. is bare mei rehnumai farmaye.. wasalaam
Masha Allah he is very knowledgeable, I'm not a big fan of the splurge of name calling though. His knowledge alone is sufficient refutation. May Allah increase our good etiquette alongside our knowledge.
Most wahhabis always seem more knowledgeable than actıually they are... But generally they only know how to takfir people because of makruh, bida or at most haram things. Putting quran on ground is not haram if it is not because of disrespect. So, even Quran can be read on ground but it is better to elevate. If there is not any thing unpure being seem it is considered as pure. Those are not important... The important thing is your tekfeer habbit...
Ma sha Allah. Signs of judgement days. You will seek fake so called Alims or people who claim they have knowledge but they dont have. Evil Good job exposing him
very common issue. the only way to solve these differences is to stick to the AUTHENTIC Sunnah of Rasool Allah Sallahu Alayhi Wassalam and Allah SWT's word - The Noble Quran. May Allah swt unite us .
The reason for the public debate was the question of putting a religious book on the ground ? The first mistake was, that even if the Sufi was correct in his opinion, that its a kind of disrespect for the book, he still is wrong, because of his bad behaviour by refuting the Salafi publicly, and reducing his level in front of all people. He should speak to him face to face in a good manner. Secondly, the Sufi undermines all the positive of a person by showing the mistake of his brother in public, and also leading the people away from their islamic teacher. The next mistake was made by both, that they use knowledge for compete and refute each other, what is forbidden by the Prophet(saw), those who learn islamic knowledge for arguing other people will find its place in hell fire. Allah knows best, may Allah guide us the path of Prophet Muhammad(saw).
Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do. 6:159
Put the evidences and ahadeeth aside, I think both these men displayed disgusting behaviour in this debate. It was so full of hate and insults and they couldn't keep a mature and decent discussion as did the salaf in the past. We're all Muslims and don't deserve to be treated so horribly. This should be taken down!
So, the question was whether a holy book like the quran can be placed in the ground. In response, the salafi labeled the questioner as a sufi, a deceiver and a liar.
Did the first questioner introduced himself as a Sufi?? Both Sufis and salafis read the same books. It's only a matter of difference of understanding. The earth is considered pure and only in necessity. Because it will be disliked if you have water in abundance and decides to use earth instead, it will also be disliked if you have mat and decide to pray on earth whole. It will also be disliked to put the Quran on the earth when you have a table or a mat. In the absence of all these the earth is pure. So both the questioner and the speaker are right, the only wrong is that they refuse to reconcile their views in light of the Sharia. I also appreciate the clarity of the Arabic.
It was a ,matter of halal and haram. Were the companions upon the suffi manhaj or the way of the Qr'an and Sunnah? Its not a difference of opinion. Worshipping graves isn't condoned in the Qur'an and the Sunnah. Can you provide evidence to your claims?
Your channel has subscriptions which are promoting haram things like women in skimpy clothes working out. Why do you yourself follow haram things , lol all you salafis are the same your iman is only till your throats.. practice first before you preach.. and you call the sufis kafir for doing dhikr of Allah.. hahah.. the laugh is on you..
I appreciate the works of our sunni brthers in sudan against the soofiyah. But unfortantily you see like other followers of sheikh rabee3 only refutations of oulama of ahlul sunnah. May Allah guide us all
Anonymous Muslim do these brothers not come with proofs. Even our children know the misguidance of the Shia and Sufi. Even our children. However these people that are refutes, the likes of yahya Al hajuri, they are refuted using evidences and clear proofs and these are people who our children listen to and look up to. They are a threat from the inside and should be warned against with proofs and evidences and advising them. Shaykh rabee is a person who will even criticize his student of a relationship of decades ( shaykh Muhammad ), thinking that the shaykh made a mistake. However, his students will go with the proofs even if they are on the side of shaykh Muhammad bin hadee Al madkhali. Shaykh rabee is from the best of the ulema. And Allah knows best.
Anonymous Muslim Salafis not Sufis. A lot of sunni scholars even practiced tasawwuf. In fact it was in the Sunni caliphate where Tasawwuf was still practiced. Who are you to say that it goes against Sunni Islam?
Jamaal Osman, first and foremost, there isn't anything like a "wahabi". This was a coined term to try and denigrate Shiekh Muhamma Ibn Al Wahab. It was done in the last era of the Ottoman empire which had allowed acts of Shirk to flourish in Mecca. So you like many attempt to criticise the Saudi royal family. Have you been to Saudi? Have you been to Mecca? Its easy to listen to the Kuffar news etc but they have done more than most Muslim states in upholding the Sunnah. Also if they make mistakes the it is a requirement to do Du'a for them. This is from the Sunnah.
When i have seen this and listened them i understand they both wrong ,by calling themselves lair and bad words,this reminds the hadith that says .the muslim umah will devide into 72 sacts
Ibn Tamayyia said it best. There are 2 types of sunnis. The ones who are on the right path, and the ones who do bidah. The Sufi are still our brothers, but they are also ahul bidah. They dance in the masjid, and they believe in incarnation.
Xassan Daxir Being salafist doesn't mean divisionism, It simply refers to tap Religion by understanding wright from the source of the special generations before.
he refuted him saying the ground wasn’t pure not the issue of it being permissible for allowing the Quran to be there on the ground. May be he should have asked is that permissible within itself
the book was not the Quran, hence why he asked does this book have the basmalah in it. So the book was not the Quran. the scholars have clarified what counts as a mushaf and what does not
postingtruth123 i know what you mean. In my home i dont like it when i see a book on top of the Quran. i remove it and place to Quran on top. But it is wrong to say the ground is not pure. Because than you say something with out knowledge. You can prefer things like Imam Ahmed . Once he was selling clothes and a woman was sitting on a chair. Once she left a student of imam Ahmed sat where the lady was sitting. Imam Ahmed did not like it that the student could feel the warmt of her still in the chair. So he said stand up and wait till it cools of. You can like something even if the Prophet SAW disliked it. But what is Haram is Haram and Halal is Halal.
040stokstaart thr hadith he mentioned abt earth made as masjid has nothin to do wit pure impure.... would u eat a fallen bread on earth? nah u would throw it calling it impure bread.. so same for quran u cant place it in ground which isnt clean n neat
040stokstaart u wouldnt put ur cloths on ground or ur things nor wouldn't even sit if u know it isnt clean or pure bt quran can be put on ground becoz earth is made as a masjid :/ lolz double standered
postingtruth123 that's not the point of the discussion, it's about halal and haram, not more respectful or less respectful. Please try to follow. Muhammadﷺ said "... if any one of you drops food he should remove any dirt on it and eat it and not leave it for the devil; and when he finishes eating he should lick his fingers, for he does not know in which portion of his food the blessing lies." [Saheeh Muslim]
So this guy is saying he is Salafi? اعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم Salafi means the first three Generations الصحابه تبين تكتبين خلاص In order to be a sahabah you had to learn from the prophet see the prophet and died upon iman To be a tabby you had to see a sahabah learn from him and diet Upon Eman To be a tubby tubby in you had to see at Tybee learn from him and died upon Iman Which of those three generations did he see? Then he encouraged this guy to pray at a shrine? And he gave a talk about approved for leaving the Quran on the ground? What kind of D'awah is this? May Allah guid the Sufi the Salafi and the Shia back to the true Sunnah Amin
يعني عادي عندكم ان تضع القرآن الكريم إلى الأرض من غير عذر و والعياذ بالله ؟؟؟ يا هذا... انظر مثلا إنه معروف عن الإمام أبي حنيفة و عن غيره من السلف الصالحين أنه لم يمتد قدماه أي رجاله ممتدا تجاه القبلة و لا في بيته هنا قد نفهم أما و لا تجاه بيت شيخه حمادا بن سليمان رحمه الله فهل تعتبر هذا شركا او ابتداعا في الدين أن عظم أستاذه و أم يذكر أنه فعل ذلك تجاه والديه و كلنا نعلم مكانة بر الوالدين في الدين فكيف يفعل هذا في شيخه حمادا ... هل تظن ابا حنيفة اعتبر ذلك من التدين و التقرب إلى الله و ينال به المكرمة غير ما كان حصل له من مقامه الرفيع في الفقه و العلم و التقوى و الورع و لّا ابتدع عملا جديدا؟؟ و الله يقول "و من يعظم شعائر الله فإنها من تقوى القلوب" و أنتم تقولون أنه شرك بالله ... و كذا أحمد بن حنبل ما اكل لحما ٦ او ٧ سنوات لأنه سمع انا شاة سُرق في مدينته ... هو يراه أن يتجنب اللحم تقربا الى الله و تقوى و أنتم تقولون أنه شركا بالله او بدعة او تكلف ما أنزل بها من سلطان !!! من أعلم أين أنزل الله سلطان و أين رفعه أنتم يا اسطح ناس بل اجهلهم في الوجود.. و لا هؤلاء السلف الأجلّاء ... الذين اتقنتموه هو كيف تطبلون تصفقون و ترفعون اصواتكم لتكسب التأييد الشعبي الجهول لجهلكم إلا من رحمهم الله و استبصرهم الله برحمته و بنوره و بنور خاتم الأنبياء والمرسلين و ببركة "صالح المؤمنين" خاتم الأساتذة وراث المحمديين و الأولياء قدس الله سره العزيز! هم عظمو حجرا اسودا و عظموا ماء زمزما و عظموا قضية و عظموا امرا و عظموا رجلا و رجالا وو و أنتم تحسبون كل ذلك من الشرك بالله و الله أنزل ايتين بل أكثر آياته يبين الفرق بين الفريقين ليعلم المؤمن بعد أن علم ألا إله إلا الله و ان الخالق و المخلوق ليسوا سواء و أن ليس هناك خلط إذا فصلوا الخالق عن المخلوق و المخلوق عن خالقها و فصلوا بين الشيء الذي أنزل معه سلطان الله و بين الذي لم ينزل معه سلطان الله ؛ فمن اردف شيئا إلى ذات الله المعظم او صفاته او فعله او .. *بغير سلطان منه* فذلك هو الشرك و اما الشيء الذي اردف إلى جانب ذاتي المعظم او إلى اسمي أو صفاتي او فعلي *مع سلطان من الله* (مع معرفة الفروق بين الجانبين) فذلك من شعائري و إنها خير للمؤمنين و إنها نيشان تقوى القلوب كما بين جل جلاله في سورة الحج
يا بليد الكتاب ده في الفيديو ليس القرآن بل هو كتاب أحد صوفي منحرف...و لا نحترحم هاذول كتب و لو كان فيه بسملة لان الكتاب ده فيه ضلال و شرك و هو ضد الإسلام كما الكتب نصارى و لليهود فيه اسم الله و لكن به ضلال و شرك فلا نحترحم الكتب ده
That Guy From So called sufi Doesnt seem to be a Well informed about islamic knowledge. when You Are showing its Sufi Vs wahabi (Salafi) it should be Aalim Vs Aaalim. only then You can Judge who Is right and who is wrong. we have so much munazarah over here in indian subcontinent and Trust me...no wahabi Scholar could beat A sufi scholar. in this Video That Sufi Guy Seems to be a jaahil or He has Not complete knowledge... and he could not find mistakes In the speech of that Salafi guy...or he failed to make counter Quistions.
Al Mahdi was born in Jerusalem in the form of rouh with his rank of (Khawsou). He also was born in Mecca still in the form of rouh with a grade of (Qutbu Zamane), he was also born in a Maghreb country as Qutbul Akhtab with a grade of rescue pole and finally his birth as a human has occurred in a country of West Africa. It was during his last birth that he reached his power of Wilaya. Thus, to his Qutbâniyou of Qutbul Akhtab, was added a qualifier. From the Batine point of view (the hidden reality), each fact has an explanation but only those who know the holy history can explain it in a clear and unequivocal way.
Earth is pure for Sajdah and Tayamum but its common sense Aql that you dont place Allahs blessed name of floor, this is where salafi lack Adab and respect. Due to which they have no spirituality in their lives. Quoting Quran and Hadeeth doeant make you more pious, youre just more aware and thats all. You can guide people but if youre not showing Adab then what use of your knowledge?
still its not of a good conduct of a muslim to throw other peoples books on the ground in front of them, it is rather insulting, even if you did it to the christians with their books,, or jews. Now imagine if they the christians, jews did the same to our books ? or sufi did the same to salafi books ? it is not of right conduct of a muslim and a debate has to be in harmony not you are fighting with each other .. also the hadith about the land is for prayer is true, but ofcourse before you pray you will roll a clean carpet to pray on, the place you pray has to be clean, thats why in mosques we have clean carpets, have you ever seen anyone praying salah on mud or sand like in this video ?
The salafi is just taking the Hadith out of context.. yes it does say the ground is pure for you to pray but there must be something in place because what if an animal has left it’s badness in such places or u have walked all over them places with dirty feet then you put the Quran on the floor on them places.. plus the book with Allah name on it is on the floor right and you above it walking everywhere doesn’t seem respectful to me either.. so there must be implications in place for this.. and just a side point that’s why we use a masula to pray on and not straight on the ground most the time..
Benny One *We respect Quraan and other books, and we don't keep them on dirty place. We keep them in our hearts. We not only respect but also follow the instructions in it.. Bro try to understand the Kitab and Sunnah the way Sahaba understood... Wallahu Alam..*
The basic principle is that it is pure, this is something that we are sure of. You are saying “maybe” an animal left something, a principle of Fiqh is that doubt does not remove something that we are sure of, so what you are saying is incorrect.
And narrated from Hamza bin 'Abdullah: My father said. "During the lifetime of Allah's Apostle, the dogs used to urinate, and pass through the mosques, nevertheless they never used to sprinkle water on it." وَقَالَ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ شَبِيبٍ حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، عَنْ يُونُسَ، عَنِ ابْنِ شِهَابٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي حَمْزَةُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ كَانَتِ الْكِلاَبُ تَبُولُ وَتُقْبِلُ وَتُدْبِرُ فِي الْمَسْجِدِ فِي زَمَانِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَلَمْ يَكُونُوا يَرُشُّونَ شَيْئًا مِنْ ذَلِكَ. Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 174
Al Mahdi was born in Jerusalem in the form of rouh with his rank of (Khawsou). He also was born in Mecca still in the form of rouh with a grade of (Qutbu Zamane), he was also born in a Maghreb country as Qutbul Akhtab with a grade of rescue pole and finally his birth as a human has occurred in a country of West Africa. It was during his last birth that he reached his power of Wilaya. Thus, to his Qutbâniyou of Qutbul Akhtab, was added a qualifier. From the Batine point of view (the hidden reality), each fact has an explanation but only those who know the holy history can explain it in a clear and unequivocal way.
Mrpurrify you are a Dumbo. It's an example. Would you pray and place your face on the ground? You are a plonker you wouldn't eat of the floor and u wouldn't do any surgery on the floor. Use your brains.
And secondly if youre quoting Quran and Hadeeth with your tongue, why swear at another Muslim in the same sentence? Which Hadeeth allows you to swear and call someone a liar? Seriously, salafi Islam is very hollow. You lack Love, compassion, understanding of Fiqh, no Tadabbur or Tafakkur on Quran and Dua.
xtremeownage2 at what point did anyone claim salafism is Islam? Care to give examples of the khawarij ideology? So far from experience it is the khawarij that dislike the way of the salaf for exposing their falsehood.
Sad seeing a diversity between muslims like this. Both seem to have a nice knowledge of the deen, even the better one among the two is very intimidating and cursing making fun of each other while spreading the knowledge. Even if the other brother is wrong you have to teach him in the best way. It feels like i am watching a muslim vs our worst enemies talking. Allah swt even told us; the more you believe/practice deen/worship in Allah the more humble your supposed to get.
You have to wonder at these people who turn the religion into entertainment and a pathetic joke. I'm talking about both sides who engage in these frivolous debates. I think I gave up watching this after 2 minutes when one of the interlocutors descended into childish name calling of his counterpart, calling him a liar, telling him to take pills etc. In all of this, where is the adab, the dignity, the honour that should be apparent on people of knowledge? All dressed up like scholars, and then they open their mouths to reveal something else more akin to a juvenile. What's the point?
@@mohamadshaheeb6361 Excellent question. It qualifies as frivolous debate when it stops being for Allah and attaining closeness to Him. The signs that this has happened include when the discussion descends to insults, rather than search for truth. As Imam Shafi'i said, "I never debated with anyone, except that I hoped the truth manifested on his tongue, as it would be easier for him to accept"
While ground is pure, it's out of respect you don't put Allah's name on the ground, just like how he said to be quiet when Prophet Muhammad PBUH was being mentioned, speaking is not forbidden but he asked them to be quiet as display of respect.
