Wait guys notice how in the choreo there was many times the members tried pulling, dragging, hugging Taehyun it seems like they’re trying to make him fall for the temptation and dragging him along to the bad side but somehow Taehyun always managed to escape their grip 🤯
@@dive_in_dip if beomgyu realised the temptation and yet fell for it like laina said, and taehyun actually rejects it, it kinda may explain the whole beomgyu choking taehyun in cysm????
that makes alot of sense it kinda explains the lyrics for devil by the window beomgyus lyrics was "high, so high, the crimson sky its way too sweet too turn down" it sounds like hes just talking to himself but i see it as he's trying to convince taehyun to give into the temptation, that this is all he ever wanted and he cant turn this offer down, in reply taehyun says "i scream and shout, but no one's 'round theres no way to escape it" meaning that he is trying to resist giving into the temptations he calls out for help but the other four have already given in so there is nobody around to save him so there is literally no way to escape his only other choice is to give in to the temptation
I have a theory: each song represent 1 member. For example, tinnitus is definitely meant for BEOMGYYU, in the MV he kept closing his ears a lot Sugar rush ride is for YEONJUN, he’s enjoying the rush and such a little too much Devil by the window is for KAI, he’s shown to be the main character(in the choreo) from the beginning of the song till the end Farewell never land is for TAEHYUN, his farewell concept photos kinda indicate so thar leaves happy fools for SOOBIN
here is the thing, if you remember beomgyu is actually connected to butterflies. we see the butterfly on beomgyu's cheek in we lost the summer and we even see them in frost. if you notice the colour of the butterflies are BLUE, but in SRR they show their true colours that's the reason we see them in red, yellow and blue colours. Basically TINKLING turns into noise which is TINNITUS
@@ryomtn yes! Also notice how Taehyun and Beomgyu were the ONLY ones associated with butterflies, in daydream concept photo Taehyun was the only one with a butterfly
Can we talk about the fact that they're dancing on the spot of magic island where Yeonjun died in Eterally??? Like Yeonjun is so tempted by the sugar rush and instant gratification that he legit died for it and the members are literally dancing and laying in the purple blood pool under the tree.
When Taehyun touches back down to the ground - this is something we see in Peter Pan. Happy thoughts are how you fly, and we’ve seen the Darlings and Peter himself sink back to the ground when they get sad. So in my mind, when Taehyun slowly comes back down, he’s had a sad realisation, either about the island or himself, and that’s when we see them getting ready to leave the island. I love how your videos activate my brain 😆
Actually, the music video of Sugar Rush Ride reminded me of Homeros- Odyssey. There are lotus eaters in the Odyssey, and lotuses cause the eater to forget reality, their purpose and their responsibilities. In the music video, we see that Yeonjun eats the lotus, we understand that yeonjun is tempted. And it's weird but there is a scene in the music video where Yeonjun raises his hand and we see Beomgyu backing up when he raises his hand. Then yeonjun looks towards us, actually Yeonjun may be under the direct control of the devil (i.e. the cat). With Kai looking at us at the end of the MV, maybe Kai realized that Yeonjun was under the devil's control and wanted to warn us (moa).
@Guadalupe Guarnera There is also such a possibility, and that will be more chaotic... But if kai is a liar why does he always turn around and stare at us? Do you have an idea?
@@fulin2008 I actually have a theory, Kai isn’t the real Kai. The Kai we see now is the fake one being possessed by the cat. In frost mv, Kai was being chased by multiple evil him selves in the mirrors, when one finally broke free out of the mirror, we see in one of the shattered glass pieces is the actual Kai with actual angel wings, trapped in the mirror maze forever. The Kai we see in a lot of mvs, has fake and mechanical wings as if he’s trying to hide his ‘secret’ that he is not the real him from the others and manipulate them with the fake wings into thinking he is in fact the real one. It makes sense that the cat would want to go after him since he is painted as the member’s comfort and the one who supports them the most, he’s also the one that reunites them together in nap of a star mv. To split the members apart, the cat has to firstly take out the person that keeps them together, which in this case, is Kai.
@@fulin2008 kai has ALWAYS been the one turning around at the end of trailers and mvs, but is he truly the real Kai? But I do have a theory, which is you know how in ox1 love song mv right after the yeonbin bridge, the screen turns black, and we moas see ourselves in the reflection of the black screen, and Soobin’s last verse of the bridge was ‘ girl I need you’ indicating we moas are the ones txt need to overcome the cat. The same goes with Kai, he turns around and faces us every single time before he goes to jump into a portal, down the house and this time before leaving the island. Perhaps he isn’t completely possessed by the cat, and he knows that he needs moas to help guide him and the others in order for them to escape the temptation.
When you mentioned beomgyu and the butterfly effect, I automatically thought of the scene in the frost mv where beomgyu is seen constantly opening pandora's box in a loop. Maybe he wants to break the loop of bad endings (?) that he and the boys are stuck in? Also, your theories give me chills and its my birthday so this is a great gift lol
Interesting Parallels from Peter Pan that i thought might relate to +U or Hybe universe 1. Wendy's surname is Darling (SVT?👀) 2. Shadow can be separated from the body, and is sentient ( Hueningkai in Frost mv chasing himself?) 3. While flying to Neverland, Wendy finds out that Peter has serious *MEMORY* problem (he forgets stuff easily as Wendy and her bros have to keep reintroducing themselves to him)... CYSM Choreo... "Remember my name" from various lyrics and mvs especially "Eternally" 4. Peter kills the lost boys to thin the herd (🤨), when they get too old. 5. To reach Neverland they fly past the 2nd star to the right... 6.Captain Hook's ship is protected by Souls of his victims.
Darling siblings yes for sure. SVT's Darl+ing is openly about Peter Pan and stalling in Boyhood. For them, Darl+ing is their fans. They finally face their shadows (much like Peter Pan had to find his and sew it back on) and their Neverland crumbles as they literally FALL through the sky down to the ground where it's dark, they feel pain, and they experience Fear. To me this is a direct parallel to the symbolism and imagery we see in TXT's story. Quite literally the SVT boys attempt to fly in Left & Right and fail and in Darl+ing they fall to reality. The falling imagery is nearly the same as we see with TXT in LOVESONG JPN. Plus, the image of SVT's Neverland and the reality of their Neverland very much mimics the scene of Yeonjun in WLTS where his world is bright but beyond the mirror it is dark and cold and lonely. Not only that, SVT represented boyhood with teddy bears (hi txt all over the place and especially Nightmare concept). SVT showed that boyhood was over by showing us a bear burning. TXT showed us their half-burned bear in RA as they refused to fully grow up and let go of boyhood. I assume we might see something on fire (hopefully a symbol of boyhood/childhood) to reflect this as the boys move on and leave Neverland.
@@lamegamehero We're truly blessed fandom to have you both! We're learning soo much even from something relatable like fairy tales we enjoyed as kids! Now im even more intrigued to learn more about Svt mvs!
@@jaimin7107 Aww thanks. It's a blast theorizing with Laina and everyone else ^^ I love to dig into these stories and really try to see what they are saying. We are all on the journey together with TXT in discovering ourselves too, that's the best part 🥰
What you said about Soobin being "infected" and seeing visions that might possibly be fake, I have a theory. So, it's pretty obvious that the (magical) cat is the devil in all of this, so what if, the cat is also the "infection" for soobin and is showing him fake visions rather than the actual future as a way to lead to whatever the cat wants to do
Instant gratification. When Crown dropped they had instant attention from all the medias, but soon this attention turned sour as it didn't come from real fans. But look at where they are now. Not elevator but stairs.
This is amazing!! For the Soobin-being-attracted-to-water-like-a-drugged-mantis, it does remind me of the dread upon Soul, that he might die from loosing his purity (due to "temptation" maybe)
I don't know if I explained it well, but Soobins seems dangerously attracted to wated, to a point where we even see him drowning in the mv. If Water represents his temptation (maybe in the Narcissus way, maybe being linked to Moa, as you explained), it might also be the dangerous element that mirrors Soul's eventual loss of purity and therefore Soul's potential death.
Laina..........I will cry. your theories are SO CLEAR and SO AMAZING. I AM SENDING YOU VIRTUAL HUGS BECAUSE YOUR STORYTELLING IS SO FRICKING AMAZING THAT IT GIVES ME CHILLS. Txt has an incredible story and you explaining makes me so happy cause I feel like I understand everything better. Txt are my ults and their story just makes everything wonderful. THANK YOU SOOOOOOO MUCH.
There is a list of words in the Farewell teasers on directional signs and it's in the album too...two of the words are Down to Earth and Grounded (Temptation and Sugar Rush Ride are also listed)
In my opinion, kai's magical power is hallucination. Like as we see , he changes the color of some animals to unreal colors(mostly purple), that's why the devil wants him to tempt the boys(?) . The devil first temptated kai, he jumped first. THAT'S WHY HE ALWAYS LOOK AT US!(as you noticed in one of your yt shorts) he wants help(or s.th...?) he is temptated by the cat to break the promise w/ the members which they made with the stars. as we can see in blue hour (which is a kind of imaginary world) everything is kind of purple . Kai is planning (by the devil) to make an imaginary world (neverland) AND AGAIN THAT'S WHY HE LOOK AT US WHEN THEY ARE LEAVING THE ISLAND WITH THAT SAD FACE IN SRR!!!
Is it just me or does the number 5 seem kind of odd? From the amount of members in TXT, to thr time on the phones or clocks in past videos or stories, to the time when kai jumps out of the house in the trailer. The number 5 is usually associated with freedom, life changes from experience, adventure, adaptability and imagination. It just stood out to me why there is always a number 5 standing out somewhere🤔
I have a theory: In the ACT Sweet Mirage Concept Video all the members are sinking in the water... Might be this is the way of escaping the Island because we have some reference related to sinking in the MV's. like the thing which happen in Narnia too Lucy and Edmond use water are a medium to travel between the 2 worlds.. What do you all think about it?????
/for the beomgyu one i feel like he does realise about these temptations a bit earlier than the others, and act on them cause in the webtoon too we see him tell the others about how the "black water potions" are bad for their body and how instead of healing them its hurting them instead. these black water potions can also be seen as a temptation cause it esentially promisses more power, stamina and not needing to rest as much.
Idk if this is a part of the lore or anything but in the choreography of 👉👈gimme gimme more everyone is doing it forward but soobin seems to be doing it backwards if you understand what Im saying (if you already mentioned this and I didnt realize im sorry 😅)
@@jsngvrs whenever a group I enjoy has a good story like tomorrowbytogether comes out with a comeback I usually like to watch the choreography and sometimes try as much as I can to learn them and I just realized that soobin was doing it differently so I thought I had to share it
@@LainaSunflower HMMMM very interesting maybe we can look into it more (maybe it has something to do with how they keep rewinding and how soobin wants to have fun like how they used to in the past???????
theories was one of the big things that initially drew me to bts and started me on my kpop journey. ive also been regrettably absent from kpop as a whole because of life stuff. in spite of that, or maybe even because of it, i absolutely adored your video. i had barely any clue at all that there was a storyline, but now ill be sure to keep an extra eye out. sincerely, thank you for making this
During late Teenage, human brain which have grey matter starts selective pruning, turning into white matter( which results in converting regions which provides pleasure of immediate reward into regions that helps us plan ahead allowing us to make balanced, more forward thinking decisions) So basically becoming an Adult.(credit- TedEd "When are you actually an adult?" )
i love how she explains them so well, my mind is blown. By the way i am a new subscriber to laina's channel and I just started watching the videos, they are so cool.
Let me use subtitles. Let me have an automatic translation. I beg you. Thank you for always giving us the view of TXT's worldview. I can't speak English, but I wonder.
@@LainaSunflower laina, notice how in the choreo there was many times the members tried pulling, dragging, hugging Taehyun it seems like they’re trying to make him fall for the temptation and dragging him along to the bad side but somehow Taehyun always managed to escape their grip 🤯
if moa really does represent the stars that they can't see in magic island - or the dream-like land that traps them with their temptations, it could be linked to nap of the star, but that theory would insinuate that txt's promise was made to the star - to moa, but they have forgotten it and suspect each other as the star sleeps and disappears from their view. the forgotten promise separates them and makes them vulnerable to the cat's false promise, but they are able to escape from it only with each other's help and actualizations or learnings. it gives hope that they do fulfil the promise to that star and find each other that way again, that they don't give into temptation, which is the teaching this album has been striving to showcase; that instant gratification is just that - instant, fleeting, temporary, regretful.
so i’ve been rewatching American horror story again recently, and I just finished season 3 (coven) which is about witches and magic and I can’t help but find a connection. in one of the last episodes all of the witches are tasked with performing the seven wonders to find out who will be the next leader of the coven. one of the seven wonders is something called descensum, which is where they basically have to go into the afterlife and successfully return back to reality without dying, and you see in the show they all have their own versions of “hell” that they have to face and basically wake up from. this reminds me of in the frost music video when they go to the tent and seem to perform descensum and they are all basically facing their own demons. the point of descensum isn’t to successfully defeat whatever it is they’re fighting, but rather to accept that whatever they’re seeing isn’t reality and to wake up from it. in the music video, Taehyun is the first person to come back after he falls from the tree, and they eventually all come back and I think this is related to the fact that these things are tempting them, but will ultimately be their downfall, and it seems that Taehyun is the first one who realizes it and accepts that fact.
Wait one more😂 that maze in the mirror referrence and beomgyu seeing multiple of himself stuck between mirrors also show the nature of our existence. It sure link to the multiverse theory or the loop of existence where you keep coming back to living the same life but with different experiences ( as they make diff choices each time) but end up with the same end result as its destined one. Ohhhh I forgot the main point which I should have mentioned before lol The cat mystery. The cat is not a bad omen. Instead its the one saving or helping or reminding them to protect themselve from choosing something that can go majorly wrong. Like CATS ARE MULTIDIMENSIONAL BEINGS. They can exist in different realities simultaneously, and they help eliminate neg vibes or energy from your surroundings. Thats why we see the change after every yeounjun or seokjin's cat interaction. It helps them set to the reality that can better help them and keep them safe from more destructjon probably. Cat is not the devil Cat is not the antagonist. Cat is not killing yeonjun's character. Cat is just being instrumental for them to be able to travel through dimensions. You can say its a sign for the mvs whenever the cat comes in frame thats when they change the timeline or reality or go to the other world. (Also helping audience to identify when its the real waking world or when its dream world)
I know other Moa’s already said this but imma say it too. You make being a fan of TXT even more fun than it already is!! Thank you so much and fighting! 🥰💪 I do have a couple questions for you. It makes sense that Sugar Rush Ride was the first time they went to Magic Island. However, why did they return in the Magic Island MV? (And why was it released first? Is SRR a flashback??) Why did the world burn that night? Were they trying to destroy the temptation once and for all and did they succeed? Or did it cause a bigger problem they hadn’t anticipated? I’d love to hear your ideas! And if they answers to these are obvious I’m sorry 😂, I just feel certain you would be able to explain it to me much better than I could myself. 💙
Ahh thank you so much ;u; that makes me really happy to hear!! Let's see how well I can answer these! (warning, its long lol) -I'm not sure why they go back in the MI MV, but I am guessing it's because they realize they wanted that escape again? Magic Island's events haven't happened in any of the written stories yet so I'm totally guessing. The burning fire represents everything getting out of control, but it's potentially also just a representation of them being 'trapped' yet again (and who comes to 'save' them? the cat-train.. oop). -I don't think they were trying to destroy the temptations themselves, though you could argue that's what Beomgyu was doing in Magic Island. If he tried that, he would probably fail (and yeah, probably could cause bigger problems!). You can't really destroy your own temptation, if you look at it from a psychological standpoint. You can ignore it, which means it might control you later since you can't accept it, or you can accept it, and thus begin to recognize when it's popping up in your life and that way you'll be able to mitigate any control the temptation gives you. Story wise, they will always want what they want, and the difference is if they let other people dictiate how they get it (by cheating, like with the cat just giving their powers to them) or if they decide on their own that they'll work for it -Magic Island was probably released first either because the trajectory of their storytelling changed (how they wanted to tell the story) or because they wanted to release it out of order. we have this point of focus that we know they're always gonna have to get to (same with eternally), but we don't actually know WHEN, so it creates intrigue! -Is SRR a flashback? Not really, I think the intention of the music video was to literally have us see everything we've already been shown (the wonder and the magic) in a totally new way. Like fi you examined the world in one particular lens, and then one day, someone turns on the light and you realize you've been looking at everything with the light off the whole time. I think it reveals a larger narrative for the impact and lesson they want us to know. Just a guess! Sorry for the length, I hope that helps!! Thanks again for watching, I really appreciate it!
@@LainaSunflower Of course, I love your videos!!! Thank you greatly for the answer; you’re so intelligent. 😂 Everything you say makes sense. I look forward to HYBE’s continuing story’s :D
@@LainaSunflower deosn't their evolution run kinda backwards? I have no energy and time to make up my own theory and then check it, but Magic Island came after Run away and in run away Beomgyu figured out how to heal YJ wound and Tae read a book on how to controll fire, also for other things and MVs I feel like it's backward thing that lands at Crown were they literally sing I got these horns growing but I love it, and we stop the loneliness because we found you= the star=MOA and we are their crown. Don't know if all MVs fit in order, and how all the lyrics fit, but it's like the story is about their fight as trainees to debut, and at Crown they succed and debut, which was obviously their debut and the other little creature they found with the wings is us MOA as we have the same pains (well at 47 not quite anymore, but I was there once too) but now we have each other and it's not loneliness anymore. The ghost is kinda the debut, when they talk in Magic Island and you replace ghost in the training room with the word debut, a lot of the conversation fits. Like a ghost, there are lots or rumours about the debut, and like a ghost it's not to catch, it's there but then again not, but they also should never forget about the name, like the ghost stands for the little inner voices that motivate or demotivate you, and their most inner one that gas gone into being trainees says don't forget why you came here in the first place, don't forget me when you drown in bad feelings of exhaustion, loneliness, etc. The temptation is there to have their lives as traines easier, to escape, so the voice reminds them not to forget, and the song Sweat is playing in their training room because that is what it'S about, endless training until you cam finally debut. I also thought about the names. Yeonjun is Promise, because he IS the promise that there will be another group in BH, he was THE trainee, the new group had to be build around him. Beomgyu on the other side is named hope. I remember how they literally went after him, because he was the missing peace, he was the Hope that it will eventually happen after he joined. Kai is a Secret ace for me, I'm just not sure how the others name would fit. Feel like I talk gibberish now, but hey it's fun.
Black water? The second you said that I immediately thought to the intro of Frost MV because on the tv's it said a sinkhole had been causing a traffic block and it was a sinkhole over flowing with black water. Very interesting.
I hope you do see my comments and add these spiritual or metaphysical aspects too in your future videos as you'll get much more clearer about every concept if you do read about different soul connection, soul groups, star family, astral realm, astral projection, healers, clairvoyants, telepaths, clairaudients etc. You'll start to feel that everything will start to get much deeper and clearer than before. Plus the animal references you talked about, here is also a spiritual side of seeing it as everything or every experience or its existence is never by chance. Its always for a reason or purpose. Hence the animal association in the concept photos probably links to the spiritual meaning of those animals or you can search it with the term animal( add name) totem spiritual meaning and then you'll find much more relevancy of their presence in the concept photos or trailers. Idk why I am not stopping writing right now lol but anybody else got these parallels? Jin kissing his reflection in water and soobin 's being near the water seeing his reflection. Kai being in the tub like jimin was drowning in it in the run mv probably. Soobin feeling like the odd one out or somebody distanced from the rest just like seokjin in the film out mv? Or always seokjin being someone who watches everyone like a third person or someone with the knowings. Likewise soobin does in the mvs. Or sometimes beomgyu does. Soobin drawing hints of his dreams visions on white board reminded me of taehyung using graffitti to avoid her frustrations about the dreams he have. We can say both these universes are also interconnected or I should say the reason of their connection is probably the common point? Probably that someome they are trying to reach through music. You never know! Will be looking forward for your future videos with txt's comeback.
Thank you Laina! I'm gonna have to watch this a couple more times to get it all! And stop to read the lyrics and all... you're dives are so deep and well thought out! And TXT (et al) doesn't really make it that easy either! I suppose it is the Korean way of clipping concepts down in a playful way to, I don't know for sure, cause one to consider and guess at what they are saying... I feel it's a context thing, but it certainly escapes me! I adore that you are undaunted and press on regardless! More, Detective Sunflower, more! 😇
Ilysm Laina!!! Thanks for working so hard on this video and fuelling my Star Seekers obsession. I hope you can do more temptation era analyses(?) esp on the choreos for dbtw and srr, I really found those interesting. You're 50% of the reason I look forward to TXT comebacks sm lmao 😭
I really love your videos, it makes kpop more fun to watch videos like yours. It really adds a level of depth to txt in general. Thx yet again for an amazing video 💕💕
The fact that taehyun already gave us the spoilers.If you notice from the name chapter eternity, cysm has the lyric "WHO IS THE LIAR" and we got that answer in SRR which is the devil. so if eternity is connected to temptation, the next album will be connected to DREAM CHAPTER MAGIC.
I have seen some comments on srr, it says that it's the story after the magic Island's train accident, that's way the Train was in the water & that's how they came into this world, the world of their temptation.. Also why everytime Hueningkai is the one who turns back while the boys leave, even in the concept trailer Hyuka turns back before jumping, is this means he is the only one who is still not ready to gave up his temptation & being a liar?
laina , this is one of the best theories videos you hav e ever did , if it is not the best .. i really like the way you think and connect things , you are amazing
What if the 'Devil' they are referring to here may also be their inner devil telling them to give in and txt themselves know that this is happening but can't help getting tempted.
Another great theory! I’m so happy I wasn’t the only one who realized that it seemed like Beomgyu seemed to realize the temptation. Right before the second chorus in the mv I noticed there’s a scene where Beomgyu reaches out from the cave one last time. It almost looks like for me that Beomgyu seemed to almost have a bad ending. Thank you for the great content!
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SOOO MUCH AND I ALWAYS (IF I HAVE TIME) WATCH YOUR VIDEOS FINISHED. WHICH IS MOST OF THE TIME. YOU'RE SO COOL. INSIGHTFUL. AND OPEN MINDED!!!!!
i just had a sudden idea of moa and her evil side that we sometimes see. you're saying here that in the magic island they're not able to see the stars so maybe the only way for moa to reach them there was to also become tempted (like turn her back on them like in jp gbgb or sth) so they only see there her vicked version which is also kind of a sign for them that this place is not good. and it also adds to the whole sacrifice that moa took to save them because it will mean moa sacrificed also her innocence in order to being able to follow them to the magic island
in the webtoon, taehyun/ taho realises that soobin/ soule is an elf, which means he can see visions, but that it could potentially kill him? maybe that's his infection? also if yeonjun is a caterpillar why does kai hold a moth in the magic island mv - it could be yeonjun after metamorphosis?
I'm only in the beginning of the video but i wanted to point this out. (I'm french so sorry if my explaination is not as clear) In the beginning you said that the dragon will either bring a new wor or cause the apocalypse. But the word apocalypse itself does not mean the end of times (la fin des temps in french, plural) but the end of time (la fin d'un temps singular), it basically mean that the apocalypse is the end of one time but also the beginning of a new one !
9:00 The first thing I thought of was Narcissus too, but it's so cool how it ties in to the praying mantis! I couldn't figure that out!! You're 10 steps ahead of us all, Laina 😌
I think, the whole album temptation is about them having struggles to grow up, take responsibilty and they just seek for some escape. In that case, its the "devil". Devil symolizes anything bad that wants to trick you by making you feel good but actually makes you horrible.
Hi Laina! I'm grateful for you doing video essays for fandoms to understand about the stories their music and videos want to convey. I am curious about where you found the audio clip about Soobin mentioning instant gratification because a fellow MOA wants to hear more about it. I hope you're doing great and are able to watch them on the A:SM tour. Cheers!
hi! thank you so much for watching, i'm so glad its helpful! to answer your question, it was from a number MOA could call during their promotion period where a random TXT member would explain the album to you - I think people have reposted it from twitter and that was where I actually obtained the file itself (also because i could not call due to my current location as it was USA only, I believe).
