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Suisei Was Prepared To Fight To Appear With Shiraken (Hoshimachi Suisei / Hololive) [Eng Subs] 

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Hoshimachi Suisei talks about how she ended up appearing as a surprise guest on HoloFes 4 Day 1...
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@Rodrigo761980
@Rodrigo761980 Год назад
Suisei : I want to sing with Shiraken ! Management : That should be doable Suisei : Oh, that easy ? Management : You look disapointed Suisei : I prepared myself to fight for it Management : I see, by the way, why do you carry an axe ? Suisei : Like I said, I was prepared to fight for it Management : ... I will make sure you can sing with Shiraken
@abbysaito5348
@abbysaito5348 Год назад
After this many years of interaction I'm sure management were aware that when suisei wants something she will be relentless in pursuing it regardless of who's in her way lol Sasuga our unstoppable comet lol
@kazerey6799
@kazerey6799 Год назад
we all know if she carry exe just giving whatever she want
@hayashi7831
@hayashi7831 Год назад
She literally predicted all of our feelings. When they introduced the next singing group, I instantly felt sad that Sui-chan is not here with Shiraken today. But 2 minutes later, Sui-chan appeared on stage and the whole stadium went crazy, people were yelling and cheering her name.
@108Fire
@108Fire Год назад
I'm glad that Suisei has the awareness to acknowledge that she gets special treatment, and with her consideration of the pros and cons of her surprise appearance shows how thoroughly she thinks these things through.
@Vaissdestruc
@Vaissdestruc Год назад
She had to fight before, she often said in some clips that she had arguments with management to do things (like her first sololive), now when it comes to singing management being like "Huh Okay !" I'm so happy she got so much recognization now that she can bend things in her way a bit. It's also normal for management to weight everything, for the company as much as for the talent. But when they know there is very little risk cause the talent is top-tier already, they don't have any reason to fight an idea ^^
@mk_rexx
@mk_rexx Год назад
Ah, yes. The negotiator. It is a nice idea though, have a secret set of some sort
@Trojan_
@Trojan_ Год назад
Sui-chan appearing with the rest of Shiraken blew my socks off just as I was thinking it was sad she'd been left out of their song together! It was such an amazing and emotional moment for me and all other hoshiyomi...something that I'll remember for quite some time that's for sure lol.
@RaiKageRyu
@RaiKageRyu Год назад
When that moment happened, I inadvertently shouted so loud I woke up the house in the middle of the night. And I was watching with headphones on.
@Absolute__Zero
@Absolute__Zero Год назад
So in short, all the stars were perfectly aligned in order for Sui’s request to be fulfilled xD Honestly it was such a great outcome since it definitely made the Shiraken performance THAT much more hype lol
@yakumoyomi5765
@yakumoyomi5765 Год назад
Agreed. It just wouldn't be the same without her.
@Vsm426
@Vsm426 Год назад
The axe also helped
@SH-Yuki
@SH-Yuki Год назад
So glad that shiraken works well we do not really have enough of cross gen units.
@randomdigress
@randomdigress Год назад
Enjoying the surprise aside, I can't help but be worried for Suichan with her axe-dozing tendencies as the backlash would be quite unpredictable. But seeing Suichan putting in so much thought and weighed out the options, as a fan we just have to dish out those axes like our oshi if needed🪓🪓🪓
@kholosimp
@kholosimp Год назад
Suichan already was planned to appear in Holo*27 and Day 2 stage. And she is gonna celebrate her 5th year anniversary concert too so she has lots of work. But nope, hearing Shiraken is gonna perform without her so she wanna join Day 1 performance too Such a hard-working performer that is Suichan ☄
@kairokuys6991
@kairokuys6991 Год назад
I can just imagine Suisei hiding an axe behind her back in case management hesitated, but decided to throw it away when management said “that’s doable.”
@claytabulusshogun
@claytabulusshogun Год назад
Cover had experienced Sui's stubborn demands and it's basically Tuesday for them so they would say yes to said demands. The best part? It's usually because what Sui demanded always work. Also, I love Sui's insight on the possibilites of people complaining that she made a surprise appearance on Day 1. Some Hoshiyomis would find it unfair since they would've only bought Day 2 and Holo27 concert ticketsand felt like they got cheated on, other fanbases like Council fans might complain that Mumei wasn't able to do the same and join the rest of Council for example. But Sui understood that no matter how many those complaints will be, it will be the extreme minority compared to the people who just got hyped from it
@theunknownperson666
@theunknownperson666 Год назад
Suisei has more dedicated fans than council, so it's fine
@uNs7oPaBL3
@uNs7oPaBL3 Год назад
true and it kind of opens the doors for the rest of the girls to passably follow her example in future events and try to ask themselves to be included in team songs in future fests so i think there that + that might become a true win win for all in the long run
@theunknownperson666
@theunknownperson666 Год назад
@@uNs7oPaBL3 some did ask (Mumei asked to join rest of council) but got rejected, so I don't think it sets a precedent for the rest.
@uNs7oPaBL3
@uNs7oPaBL3 Год назад
@@theunknownperson666 yea Sui-chan probably got the oky because she is one of the top faces of Hololive in Japan right now that being said it was the first surprise accepted for an official holo fest so far sure this time Mumei got rejected but that might not be so for an future request that's what i mean by kind of opening more doors now not for this event but for an future one we'll see next year and so on ^_^
@ChillingChillix
@ChillingChillix Год назад
TBH the moment suisei appear i was really hype and forget that she's suppose to be in 2nd days. and after the 2nd stage when i re-watch it's still hype me up when suisei appear in shiraken-unit
@marcelostalker
@marcelostalker Год назад
I love how an actual unity developed out of a minecraft group joke. Minecraft puts things in motion inside hololive xD
@negation1029
@negation1029 Год назад
Later when interviewed, the OOO-san, the staff said "Every fiber of my being told me to agree to her request so I wouldn't dare to turn her down"
@yushu3488
@yushu3488 Год назад
Sasuga Sui-chan
@goukenslay7555
@goukenslay7555 Год назад
Honestly when watching the live and seeing shiraken without suisei, it felt like it was empty until suisei finally appeared... Then it was poggers
@stargazer7791
@stargazer7791 Год назад
Some might call it special treatment but she earned it for sure. All of her liveshows and projects have been a huge success and management surely loves that. She gives and she gets back whats worth.
@ikr9358
@ikr9358 Год назад
But now you're assuming that the other talents don't work as hard as Suisei. Hard work is not always rewarded equally.
@This_is_Power69
@This_is_Power69 Год назад
**suisei sharpens her axe** Management: ok you can join them
@passingweeb2217
@passingweeb2217 Год назад
"Day 1 had one less person"....... You reckon Sana would've been a Day 1 performer ?
@brokeback9299
@brokeback9299 Год назад
shiraken saikou!
@Yampiey
@Yampiey Год назад
Suisei played me like a fiddle. She is the first idol to bring me to tears of joy. 😭 First time was, when I saw her performing "Next Color Planet" on the 2nd Fest Beyond the Stage. Second time was, when Startend appeared at Towas 3D B-day concert with "Stellar Stellar. And now the Third time at Holo 4th fest as a surprise guest for the Shiraken Performance with the song "Gunjou Sanka". Live is just a blessing as a Hoshiyomi 😊
@MiiMavis
@MiiMavis Год назад
did u forget to cry when she appeared in the first take?
@Vaissdestruc
@Vaissdestruc Год назад
When she revealed the outfit in her first Sololive ? (well she did the same in the second, but since it happend already it was less a surprise). There is also a tons of moment in free streams, but i guess we will limit ourselfs to the pay to view one.
@rave400v6
@rave400v6 Год назад
Should they ever doubt Sui chan's decisions anymore? She's beyond a diamond. Everything she has done is absolute gold.
@voldemor007
@voldemor007 Год назад
Not quite. She was once want to do some kind of first take by herself as a joke but management not allowed. Because they think that she has a potential to appear on the real first take stage one day.
@lastnamefirstname8655
@lastnamefirstname8655 Год назад
sui-chan truly so amazing. thanks for the amazing surprise, sui-chan!
@thorianfeb
@thorianfeb Год назад
So, my wish for Usaken perform on a big stage is almost impossible?! 3 different branch, busy schedule, etc etc.
@billybonregularjin
@billybonregularjin Год назад
in all honesty based on what little i see people saying about Shiraken, it looks like it was an easy win for management to make this change.
@egahillalnurcholiq1996
@egahillalnurcholiq1996 11 месяцев назад
Waaaaaaaaah
@dinozero2
@dinozero2 Год назад
Suisei appear in EXPO, Day 1, Day 2 and holo*27. It was full combo!
@bdingkle7596
@bdingkle7596 Год назад
And from how the crowd reacted, I'd say it was a pretty damn good idea. It was one of the biggest highlights from Stage 1 for me, and probably a lot of people
@ikr9358
@ikr9358 Год назад
Undoubtedly it made for a great show, but I'm just afraid that it overshadows the other performers. Everyone is talking about Suisei, not Flare, Polka, Miko or Noel.
@OnizukaGTO
@OnizukaGTO Год назад
mumei felt the same way, unhappy to be separated from council. if only she had asked management and carried an axe...... poor mumei
@mathiask04
@mathiask04 Год назад
She did ask management but they rejected her request
@OnizukaGTO
@OnizukaGTO Год назад
@@mathiask04 senpai powers..
@mathiask04
@mathiask04 Год назад
@@OnizukaGTO must be.
@-MinesaTo-
@-MinesaTo- Год назад
Sui-chan: Mane-chan, can I be with Shiraken on Day 1? (I'm ready to be stubborn to fight them if they reject my request. 🤬) Manager: Sure! No problem. Sui-chan: *surpised pikachu face*
@melisaartemis
@melisaartemis 4 месяца назад
Late comment... but somehow I think the management purposely left out 1 performer space in Day 1 EXACTLY because they knew Suichan would ask for it when she sees Shiraken perfoming together without her. Since even her mane-chan give the okay right away means that it's already within her expectation and they're already prepared for it. In the end, everyone's happy.
@jujukamiyu
@jujukamiyu Год назад
Sui-oji missed the chance to have ramen with Aqua because of this Shiraken performance. That's a pretty hefty price there.
@AndersHass
@AndersHass Год назад
Was it the plan all along by management lol
@spectrum9092
@spectrum9092 Год назад
Makes me curious who will be the next shiraken member if they want a new member
@johnbradshaw3001
@johnbradshaw3001 Год назад
Might have to wait for the next gen
@witchkiller9999
@witchkiller9999 Год назад
I doubt it. Noel was the last addition. Flare said she wanted to keep their group small so collabs will be more manageable.
@DelphinSquared
@DelphinSquared Год назад
Suisei. The strongest Singer. The Psychopath. And now, The one that makes the perfect balance (between Day 1 And 2)
@KazeKage_B
@KazeKage_B Год назад
😝🤣🤣🤣😘😘😘😘♥️♥️♥️♥️💪🏻😘🪓
@bco1981
@bco1981 Год назад
meanwhile, Mumei was left out of the Council to be on the same stage in 3d for the first time they had the option.
@rektl2036
@rektl2036 Год назад
Makes sense, since they had also done a few commercial projects as shiraken for tourism and merch. Give its alot more suay to do activities
@erwinbayarcal3798
@erwinbayarcal3798 Год назад
Where can i see shiraken perform? (Timestamp please😭)
@fajarputras3300
@fajarputras3300 Год назад
3:00:50 in the VOD.
@MDTako
@MDTako Год назад
The fact Suisei was "calming" holding her axe while asking had nothing to do with management's decision. Jk ofc. Tho I'm sure they knew if she didn't get her surprise appearance on stage, she'd be making some surprise appearances at their residences.
@sufianramli
@sufianramli Год назад
I'm sure she'll JUST want to talk. With an axe that just happened to be in her hands. I mean axes are like accessories these days!
@eeeeeeeev
@eeeeeeeev Год назад
the lessen here is it doesnt hurt to ask. the worse you will get is "no".
@yeissonvelandia699
@yeissonvelandia699 Год назад
She never have a "no", as she said, "I gonna make regret those who reject me when I try to be an idol", she is a diamond mine, you just not said no to a diamond
@thegemguy1334
@thegemguy1334 Год назад
One person less... we were missing a "space" there 😢.
@pumpjackmcgee4267
@pumpjackmcgee4267 Год назад
Consider Suisei an envoy. She fits thematically, at least.
@spongebobfan78
@spongebobfan78 Год назад
Reminds me of a skit I watched where a customer wants to return a defective product and was surprised that the guy on store accepted the return without issue, and the customer was disappointed because they were actually prepared to argue about it if it was denied.
@version_dew
@version_dew Год назад
when you fully prepared counters for an argument but the opposite side agreed right at the beginning, a good waste of effort.
@Noelle808
@Noelle808 Год назад
*puts on conspiracy theory hat* The reason why management set up the "Shiraken without Suisei" group and also instantly agreed to the request is because they wanted both a Shiraken and Startend performance, but couldn't just book Suisei as the only one to show up on both days, so they left it to the talent to propose it as a request.
@zerospicon
@zerospicon Год назад
I had this thought as well. It's a win win for Hololive, as it is a new type of content to excite the fans to keep looking forward for more. Suisei was probably the only one bold enough to request it first. Hope to see more members follow suit.
@AllanMeling
@AllanMeling Год назад
having a surprise appearance on day one has the effect off ppl on the next say being hyped think : "will it happen again", rather genius really
@munchuwu1649
@munchuwu1649 Год назад
There is a lot jealous fanbases saying that Suisei is getting a lot of unfair special treatments (i.e 3rd solo live, special guest for Day 1, a lot of ads for her albums and lives, higher budget music, etc.). Is she getting special treatments? Yes, definitely. Is it unfair though? It's only unfair when 2 equal people get different treatments. But Suisei is without a doubt way ahead of any other member in terms of music BY A LONG SHOT (THE FIRST TAKE performer, 1st in Oricon charts, 200 millions+ views on music videos, recognized by many pros in the music industry, etc.). So it is NOT unfair that Cover puts her on a pedestal (when music is involved) and Cover would be crazy not to abuse Suisei while she's hot in the market.
@ikr9358
@ikr9358 Год назад
I think you might be letting your favoritism show a bit too much.
@elpsykongroo5660
@elpsykongroo5660 Год назад
@@ikr9358 Is he wrong tho?
@ikr9358
@ikr9358 Год назад
@@elpsykongroo5660 I'm not sure. There's several aspects that can be looked at.
@stacche7780
@stacche7780 Год назад
​@@ikr9358 Dude i see your comments everywhere that sounded like you don't like suisei appearing at day 1. it's just simple business, she just had her sololive, new album, first take vtuber. She has clout, even if Mumei request got accepted and is the surprise guest at day 2 it wouldn't make the same impact as Suisei does. As for Flare, Polka, Miko, Noel. I saw alot of reaction that calls them shiraken minus suisei ( even Anya called the unit that) when they appeared, so I think it's better for them to be called "Shiraken" with Suisei than being overshadowed by other unit.
@stacche7780
@stacche7780 Год назад
​@@ikr9358 They are equally an entertainer, singer, and performer. But the popularity and/or the power they hold aren't equal since day 1. Why do you think they only made Gura a life sized statue for the 3rd fes ?, why is it that only Sora appeared all 4 times for vtuber fes 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023 ? It's just how it works.
@bhirawamaylana466
@bhirawamaylana466 Год назад
Probably Manager : Ma'am can you put down that giant axe first please 😨.
@KahlevN
@KahlevN Год назад
That's awesome for Suisei, it's too bad they weren't able to make a similar concession for Mumei so she could be with the rest of her gen-mates that were all together with her the only one left out of their first 3d.
@goleogthais
@goleogthais Год назад
Suisei now has enough clout to be making demands to management, shes so freaking cool
@bmanpura
@bmanpura Год назад
Sometimes the only thing you have to do is ask.
@XYousoro
@XYousoro Год назад
Cover: "Would you like to be on Day 1 or Day 2?" Suisei, probably: "Yes."
@tacyzarc
@tacyzarc Год назад
Name of group…. Shiranui Construction Company. One heck of an idol unit group name. 😂
@hoangthai9982
@hoangthai9982 Год назад
Or "SHIRAnai koto KENkyukai" (Scholar Society Club) as the Shiraken manga stated.
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares Год назад
Reminds me of how Suisei requested for a long break back in 2020. I think it went pretty much the same way lol. I did see some complaints, saying Suisei was given preferential treatment, but it was just one comment. So I think it's safe to say that most people liked the surprise.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Год назад
It is not like long breaks are unique to Suisei. Ayame is pretty (in)famous for not streaming for pretty long periods of time for example. And generally Cover is completely fine with their talents taking month long breaks for health or personal reasons.
@Vaissdestruc
@Vaissdestruc Год назад
And in 2020 Suichan didn't really got the same power that she has now. She wasn't given preferential treatment. While now, i'm not so sure, for two pretty huge reason : - First she have success (like a lot in show things which makes BIG money too), so there is that. - Second a lot of other talents in Hololive look up to her. Also not sure she really have preferential treatment either. But you definitively can't ignore request of one of your (if not the) best talent.
@lootmaster1337
@lootmaster1337 Год назад
Cute sui with an axe "so about my spot on day 1" Uhm- okay. Wow that was easy, i even prepared this entire plan.
@sufianramli
@sufianramli Год назад
I'm sure it doesn't involve skinning someone, eating their hears and wearing their skin, right? ..... RIGHT?!!!!
@RecordToDeathToBoredom
@RecordToDeathToBoredom Год назад
I found it off that Suisei appeared like that. So that's why. I'm glad everybody liked it, and it's to be expected.
@RadenCahya
@RadenCahya Год назад
Imagine, after Suisei surprise, they bring Dragon
@Windyyyyyyyyy
@Windyyyyyyyyy Год назад
It made sense to keep suisei in for shiraken. it wouldn't be shiraken without her after all
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 Год назад
NO ONE SAYS NO TO SUISEI! except if she is planning to act like a Psycho lol
@Altercepez
@Altercepez Год назад
if they could bring shiraken together they could atleast allowed Mumei to appear alongside council in day 2
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Год назад
I mean... did Mumei ask the management? I agree that it is a shame that she was separated from Council but it wasn't as if Staff put Suisei in both days to start with. She explicity requested being able to appear with Shiraken. I don't know if Mumei also asked to be able to be with Council.
@theunknownperson666
@theunknownperson666 Год назад
@@gokbay3057 She did ask management. She was told it was very strict and can't be changed.
@Vaissdestruc
@Vaissdestruc Год назад
I think, but i'm not sure, from what Mumei said, she asked to be on day 2 (not just to appear with council), and got refused. Also maybe it's more difficult to communicate with the organization for EN than JP. For exemple if EN manager did talk about it to JP organization, and Organization said no to change days, then JP got Suichan request, EN still don't know that. And JP may not think about contacting EN for this. (All ID and EN talent where surprised for Suichan appearance, while JP knew) But now, Suichan did put a "precedent" so it may be easier for other talent. And EN management now know it's possible this way.
@TotemoGaijin
@TotemoGaijin Год назад
Am I missing something here? She's part of Shiraken, so I don't know why they didn't think to at least ask her in the first place. Joining in one extra thing even if its not the day you're supposed to perform on shouldn't be that big of a deal, especially considering this.
@ikr9358
@ikr9358 Год назад
Mumei didn't get to perform with Council...
@kritchawatkid
@kritchawatkid Год назад
Well, you probably missing various cost and work that need for additional member for a few minutes?
@Kiriemy
@Kiriemy Год назад
It likes power ranger if one is missing they cant do their best
@beestek.94
@beestek.94 Год назад
Are Gen 0 members had some special privileges compared to other gens?
@deanthomas2305
@deanthomas2305 Год назад
I'm sure the management made it so Sui-chan takes the bite....
@rektl2036
@rektl2036 Год назад
Remember kids, watch what you say! You never know if a blue comet. ( with an axe) may appear behind you from the wal---
@ZwrP
@ZwrP Год назад
favouritism for the superstar i guess, sad they snubbed Mumei from appearing with her homies.
@EmergencyCrews
@EmergencyCrews Год назад
I mean she make a request to the management herself. And I don’t know if mumei also make a request as well? But I think if mumei also did it, the management could do something for her.
@Trojan_
@Trojan_ Год назад
You assume that mumei even asked in the first place. Yea I would've loved to see her together with the rest of council, but just because they allowed Suisei to join with the rest of her group doesn't mean she was given special treatment. I watched Mumei's aftershow stream, and I don't think she said she requested management and/or was denied. Also Mumei doesn't strike me as the type of person to be persistent on these types of issues too, so that could be the difference between her and Suisei.
@dwiatmika9563
@dwiatmika9563 Год назад
Well she was prepared to fight for it
@theunknownperson666
@theunknownperson666 Год назад
@@Trojan_ She did ask and was told it was strict and can't be changed.
@amdrandom
@amdrandom Год назад
​@@theunknownperson666 I think she asked to appear on the same day as the rest of Council, which is a harder request to approve.
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