(I think this scene is faction because in the history say Mughals king Shah Jahan cannot meet the Sultan Murda he just sent his governor Mir Zarif) Relations with the Ottoman Empire Shah Jahan sent an embassy to the Ottoman court in 1637. Led by Mir Zarif, it reached Sultan Murad IV the following year, while he was encamped in Baghdad. Zarif presented him with fine gifts and a letter which encouraged an alliance against Safavid Persia. The Sultan sent a return embassy led by Arsalan Agha. Shah Jahan received the ambassador in June 1640. They exchanged lavish presents, but Shah Jahan was displeased with Sultan Murad's return letter, the tone of which he found discourteous. Sultan Murad's successor, Sultan Ibrahim, sent Shah Jahan another letter encouraging him to wage war against the Persians, but there is no record of a reply.
In reality, Shah Jahan was more powerful than Ottomans in wealth, and he never went to Murad. Instead, he sent his ambassador. I am a big fan of Ottomans.
@abdsamad-922 bro, I mean wealth and also I am quoting fact that he never went to murad, he sent his ambassador. But Murad was controlling ottoman empire which was also close to our hearts.
To the people comparing both rulers: Shah jahan is a king, and sultan murad was khalifa. The khalifa was a rank that was considered as a king of all the kings of Muslim empires, including his own obviously. Don't compare. There was unity in Ummah at that time, not disunity like today.
ottomans used the title of Sultan not caliph. And even if they did ,it just means they used to serve hejaz (makkah and madinah).Ottomans, abbasids, Umaayads and Mughals were monarchies who made their own rules. Adding a title to your name will not change the reality. Also Mughals and Ottomans were independent bodies.Some Mughal emperors have Friendly relations with ottoman sultans but Mughals never recognize the authority of Ottomans over them neither they consider them superior. Also Shahjehan never met Murad, 2 of his envoys met Murad and they were very much respected by murad. this bowing scene of Mughal emperor to murad is laughable and historically inaccurate. Turks just fabricate this scene to show their supremacy.
@@namra7957 kusch nhi ho sakta bro tumhara ye e sultan murad 2 nhi balke 4 hein aur shahjahaan 1628 se 1650 tak the,ye wahi exact dour hai jab sultan murad ne takht snbhala tha aur 1640 mein died huwe the (history parho bro jaa ke meine 8 saal laga diye sirf yahi sari history janne ke liye aur aap kiya galat batein pass kar rahe ho.....also jo badshah yanii shahjahaan apnii bewii ke liye aik mahenga tareen mahal bama sakta hai bajaye apnii awaam par kharch karne ke liye tho uss se aap kiya hi islam ki sarparastii meinhukumranii manzoor kareinge broo.......
Actually not. Khalifa 's title didn't meant anything after Abbasid Caliphate disolved. Khalifa only means protector of holy cities. And considering that Shah Jahan ruled over more people than the ottomans , and that mughals during Jahangir to Aurangzeb were much more stronger than ottomans who were declining after Suleiman, clearly shows the Mughals were superior to the ottomans until Aurangzeb died
@@tanzimalfardin7877 what was the achievement of mughals like shah jahan building Taj mahal for Wifes??? On other side turks fought with Romans/crusaders/mongols/Zionists and till last khalifa
The Mughal empire was one of the empires of the Turks, and the Ottoman empire was the sultan of all Muslims at that time. All Muslim empires from the Java Islands in Indonesia to the Strait of Gibraltar and the security of life and property of the entire Muslim Ummah were in the Ottoman Empire. For example, the sultanate of Aceh, which was under the protection of the Ottoman Empire, was destroyed only when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. Moreover, today, only one Muslim caliphate received taxes from the United States, and in this caliphate, the Ottoman caliphate was the Ottoman caliphate. Especially the Ottoman Empire left Jerusalem to the British. it was so sad that he handed over the holy buildings and structures of the Muslims to the British so that they would not be damaged. The governor of Jerusalem at that time states this in his letter. The Ottoman empire was actually governed with a very elegant and thoughtful thought. Sultan Abdulhamid made such fine calculations that the grave of our Prophet would be far from the sound when he was building the railway. The Ottoman Empire tried to protect the sacred structures of the Muslims in the holy lands and was betrayed by the Arabs. For the first time, Muslims took part in the Christian army against a caliphate. It made me so sad to read this that the Ottoman Empire was helpless.😢😢💔
@@ozan2508not really. The ottomans themselves used to fight other muslims for power,that debunks your entire theory. The Mughal Empire wasnt Turkish, it was south Asian empire of muslims of Sub-continent,muslims of south asia were larger population than all other muslims ,even today, Mughals were gurkani Turkic-Mongols ,whose identity was Hindustanis Muslims, there isnt a single evidence of Mughal Empire being "turkish" except that the first Mughal emperor was from Uzbekistan. I myself am a Mughal, and consider my ancestry as Turkic-Mongol, but identify as a Pakistani Muslim Mughal
sultan murad considered Indian mughals to be beneath him....now that the muslims are under threat...we want unity so we are rewriting history. the truth is that historically the persians amd turks look down upon indian muslims and that includes pakistanis
@@canadaone2385 Both Mughals and Ottomans were turkic. But they all were claiming to be the "true descendants" of the "great khan." But the mughals and the Ottomans DID ally against the Safavids. However, Shah Jahan and Murad IV NEVER EVER met. Shah Jahan never left the borders of the Mughal empire.
We are not proud of Shah Jahan, we are proud of Araungzeb. Shah Jahan was a drunkard who married his daughter. Aurangzeb rescued his sister from their crazed father and implemented Islamic shariah.
@@shadowking255 yeah but he knows in reality he is nowhere near the Caliph The rank was given to him by Allah So yeah even Shahjahan comes under the supremacy of Caliph Murad And a correction Mughals are stronger not Shahjahan Murad is considered the strongest ottoman caliph strongest in the sense of a warrior aspect
@@archertroop5784 Mughals did not recognise Ottomans as Caliph,And Ottomans were not Caliph it was a dynasty Caliph is a respectable title given to a ruler who controls Hijaz,Is elected by Shura,runs the state in Shariah only controlling Hijaz doesnt make you a Caliph
@@muhammedumerawan8554 bro in that sense u wont accept anyone as calipht after the rashidun right,? And how do u know this that they didnt accept Ottomans as the holders of Caliphate
Emperor Shahjahan is being shown small, but at the time of Shahjahan, the Mughal Empire was the world's most powerful and world's richest empire and the Osmania Empire was at number 3, which was far behind the Mughal.
The Ottoman Empire was the caliphate during this period. An empire spread over three continents. Furthermore, the Mughal was a Mongol Turkic Empire and not an Indian Empire. The descendants of Timur Lenk. Babur Khan was his descendant.
The fact that there was no india back then. He ruled over the entire Subcontinent. Yes they mever met, and Mughal empire 's economy was greater than ottoman empire from jahangir to Aurangzeb
@@BarlasofIndusOttoman empire was far more powerful than mughals because Ottomon did fight with powerful enemies whereas Mughals did fight with weak Indians.😂😂
@@Facts.152 weak Indians?? Do you think people were happy under your strong ottoman Empire?? When you want to focus all your resources in military and forgets the needs of common people for whom a kingdom is built. No bro I don't want a strong nation where people are suffering, I want a nation where people are happy.
@@ozan2508 Genetically speaking, the Mughals drifted away from their Turkish origins quite soon after their arrival in India. If Babur and his son Humayun were still full-blooded Central Asian Turks, Akbar through his mother (Hamida Banu Begum) was half Persian and Akbar’s son Jahangir (through his mother, the princess of Amber) was therefore 25 per cent Turk, 25 per cent Persian and 50 per cent Rajput. Shah Jahan (the Mughal par excellence), Jahangir’s son, was 75 per cent Rajput: both his mother (Rajkumari Shri Manavati Baiji Lall Sahiba alias Taj Bibi Bilqis Makani) and his paternal grandmother were Rajput princesses. From Shah Jahan onwards, the only genetic constant in the family was its mixed descent with a continuous ebbing and flowing of Persian and Rajput blood and an ever-diminishing Turkic component. Shah Jahan’s son Aurangzeb (through his mother, the famous Mumtaz Mahal) was more than half Persian - 56.25 per cent, to be exact. Through his father’s side, he was still 37.5 per cent Rajput and 6.25 per cent Turkish. This, in turn, makes his son and first successor Muhammad Azam (also born from a Persian mother, Dilras Banu Begum) 78.125 per cent Persian, 18.75 per cent Rajput, and a mere 3.125 per cent Turkish. Azam lasted less than three months on the throne (details given in Chapter 7). His half-brother, usurper and successor, Bahadur Shah I, in contrast, was half Kashmiri (through his mother Begum Nawab Bai, Aurangzeb’s second wife), 28.125 per cent Persian, 18.75 per cent Rajput and only 3.125 per cent Central Asian Turkish. The foregoing discussion clearly shows that the ‘purity’ of the maternal line was of little or no political consequence in the Mughal dynasty. Strange as it may seem, there are, in fact, many examples of Mughal princes whose mothers will forever remain unknown, as their names were not even properly recorded. It seems becoming to note, however, that Bahadur Shah II (1775- 1862; also known as Bahadur Shah Zafar), the very last emperor on the Mughal throne, son of Akbar Shah II and Lal Bai, a Hindu Rajput princess, was, once again, more than half Rajput. For indeed, Bahadur Shah II, a devout, gentle and moderate- minded Sufi Muslim, was a true Indian. And so had been his ancestors, ever since Akbar the Great. Far more important than the ancestral blood in a person’s veins - in the end, aren’t we all related? - is his or her culture, the environment he or she feels at home in and identifies with. In that sense, Babur, the founder of the dynasty, was still very much a foreigner to India. Babur profoundly disliked India. He did not care at all for its climate, its food or its people. More often than not, he felt dreadfully homesick, filled with nostalgia for Kabul and the lost territories in Central Asia. In contrast, Babur’s famous grandson Akbar the Great, the first Mughal emperor to be born on Indian soil, was a true son of India. He was born in 1556 in Umarkot (now in Sindh, Pakistan). He cared precious little - if at all - for the ancestral lands in Central Asia. Once he could rest assured that his north-western borders were secure (with Kabul, Qandahar and Kashmir firmly under control) he resolutely turned southwards. Next on his agenda was not Timur’s capital in Central Asia, but the Deccan and beyond: Akbar’s ultimate ambition was to rule over the subcontinent in which he was born, had spent his entire life, felt at home in and identified with. Akbar did indeed not think of himself as a ‘foreign’ occupier. On the contrary, his entire career was a grandiose - if largely failed - attempt to ‘blend in’ with India, to blot out the difference between his Hindu and Muslim subjects, to underscore their common Indian identity and to unite them under his banner. In that sense, he was the true forerunner of today’s secular Indian leaders. With his rather unorthodox views on religion - from an Islamist point of view, anyway - Akbar was, admittedly, an exception among the members of his dynasty. His predecessors and successors, indeed, were ‘normal’ Sunni Muslims, with all the shades of grey that can be found behind that term, ranging from free-thinking sceptics like Jahangir, via pragmatists like Babur, to gentle-minded Sufis like Bahadur Shah II, or bigoted fanatics like Aurangzeb. But each and every one of them, with the exception of Babur (& Humayun), was an Indian Muslim, in every sense of the word. Source - The Great Mughals And Their India
@@mohammedmutahhirali5367the mughal law was based upon hanafi code of Islam, the ottomans fought other muslims for power. The title of khalifa was useless as they killed millions of muslims of Mamluk Sultanate to get the title. The ottoman killed fellow kurdish muslims regularly and bowed down to the french and British to protect themselves against Russians while the Mughals sacrificed their sultanate's last capital in the War of Independence
But Sultan Murad is the Amir ul Mu'mim (Khalifa : Head of world Muslims). So even Shah Jahan also respect him. And Osmania Caliphate is more powerful than Mughal Sultanate.
Since everyone is comparing these Muslim Empires. I as a Pakistani Muslim am gonna explain why Ottomans were greater than us Mughals. The ottomans spread Islam to Spain, France, Balkans, Conquered Istanbul and controlled Palestine and also conquered North African countries like Egypt, Morocco and Tunisia. Mughals only conquered India which ofc is a great feat too but doesn't compare too Ottomans.
I'm also a Pakistani muslim, but from jahangir to Aurangzeb,mughals were obviously too much superior to ottomans. Mughals ruled over the Subcontinent, which alone had more people than the entire balkans(the european part were ottomans ruled) and ottomans never got to france bruh.Out of all those countries,no country is islamic today and ottoman caliphate failed at that(except Albania). Ottoman empire faced much less and weaker and technologically backward people. The Gdp of both empires at their peak alone proves that Mughal Empire was 8 times more richer than ottomans. And the British themselves said that Mughals were more powerful when they arroved in Subcontinent, because at that time, ottomans had become servants of British and French,whi would protect ottomans against Russians
More people doesn’t mean more Land . India was wealthy yet no way compared to Ottoman Empire land . Religion wise - India had and has multiple religion but Ottoman’s were fighting with Christian Armies . With wider lands comes the challenges to cross borders and years to go on and fight on foreign lands and winning those wars . What Sultan Suleman did in his time alone was commendable and Murat made an addition - Bagdad .
@@aounabbas5601 Apki Knowldege giri hoi hai. India before partition consisted of Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and a part of Afghanistan. Subcontinent was called 'India' before partition. Agli baar kuch bolne se pehle research krlena warna be-izzati ho jy gi 🤣🤣
logo ko haqiqt ka pta ni jiska wja hum mughalo ki history ko abi tk dikha nai pay jino ny dkhai wo galt or mukhalif logo ny dkhai 😢 acho ko bora bahadr ko kmzor bna k rekh diya
Yha pe Shah jahan ko chhota kyu dikhaya jaa rha hai jabki uss samay ka sabse powerful the Mughals...I know Sultan was Caliph... director bias ho gya yha pe thoda...or inki mulaqat kvi hui nhi thi...Shah Jahan ne governor bheja tha apna.... Btw i love both of them ❤️❤️
Areh, iss show ekdam man ghatak kahani o se vara hain. Jin logo k pass khane ko paisa nahin tha Shah Jahan jaa k uss logo ka Sultan ko jaa k tel lagaye ga. Yeh baccho o ka afsana hain
@@tanzimalfardin7877 Right Bro Turkey Wale Kuch Bhi Dikhate Hain Or Waise Bhi Mughals Koo Na Hi Pakistan Or Na Hi India Ki Taraf Se Woo Izzat Mili Joo Turkey Ne Ottoman Empire Ko Di Jab Ke Agar Koi Web Series Mughals Pe Banegi Too woo Turkey Ke Series Se Zyada Acchi Hogi Kyuke Mughals Especially Aurangzeb Alamgir In Jaise Sultano Se Kahin Behtar The
Mughal calipah mante hi nhi the ottomans ko even humayun harne ke baad sultan Suleiman ko letter uske equal likha tha shershah suri se harne ke baad Aisa likh tha toh shahjahan Etna raees Murad ke saamne jhukega
This is not shah jahan it his ambassador While he was encamped in Baghdad, Murad IV is known to have met ambassadors of the Mughal Emperor Shah Jahan, Mir Zarif and Mir Baraka, who presented 1000 pieces of finely embroidered cloth and even armor.
this is not shah jahan its a mughal Diplomat . And why would badshah Shah jahan stand infront of sultan murad while sitting . he was the king of Indian Sub Continent. And infact they never met .
@@orderofcaliphate7909 pata hai india ka musalman kutte billi ki tarhaa mar kyu khata hai har waqt kyu k unko sapno k duniya me jeene ki adad pad gai hai mere har wo ek mujahid mera bhai hai jis ne Islam k liye apni jaan di aur saheed hue
Ottoman sultans and Mughals sultans never met in real life. However,Ottoman naval captains in arabian sea whose ships sank were given refuge by Mughal officials
@@mahboobalam8722bhai poori duniya ko documentaries dekh lo😂 The Mughals were more powerful than ottomans from Jahangir to Aurangzeb, and the ottoman empire was slowly falling apart after sultan Suleiman died
@@HafizAhmed106 Bro jhuka iss lia tha q k ye calipha kehlaty thy or Sultan murad ne madad ki thi jung mai inki or tb usmanio ki zda power hoti thi 3 continent py.mugalo k pass Aurangzaib k wakt aye thi
@@stricits3358 Bhaijaan, vo Junubi Asia ke Sultan (Shahinshah) the...koi arey gairey Sultan nhi!...aur vaise bhe Mugul Shahinshah's ❤️de pr rakhte the Usmaniyo ko😆 unhone kabhi mana he nhi Usmanio ko Khalifa!!!
Dear brother, Shahjahan was a king and Sultan Murad Khan IV was a Khalifa . There is a big difference between a Emperor and a Khalifa , khalifa has respect from all muslim empires and their emperors. So think before you comment.
This isn't really true bruh, the producers said this series is half fictional. The Mughal Empire from Jahangir to Aurangzeb was the most powerful empire on Earth, while the ottomans were slowly falling apart from 17th century after Sultan Suleiman died
@@saimmalik361 MUGHALS🇮🇳👑⚔️ was INDIANS, and at that time Afghanistan and Pakistan was not existed. They Gandhar(Afghanistan) and Sindh(Pakistan) was a province of INDIA. We are older than your whole history. HAHAHAHAH.
Mughals are nothing as compared to ottomans. Suleiman gives canon to uzbak sardar babar to attack on lodhi dynasty in 1526 ... Many people says Mughal ruled on Hindustan..but they forget ottomans rule over 3 continent's Europ Afric middle east...mughals just become Rich in 1600 ...but ottomans still have their glory
