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Sum of Fibonacci Numbers Trick 

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A little trick to sum Fibonacci numbers. Try it out.

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@nychold
@nychold 8 лет назад
Why it works: a b a + b a + 2b 2a + 3b 3a + 5b 5a + 8b 8a + 13b 13a + 21b 21a + 34b ---------------- 55a + 88b = 11(5a + 8b) ...which is 11 times the 4th number from the bottom.
@belowaverageplayer717
@belowaverageplayer717 8 лет назад
You're the real MVP. I was left empty after the video.
@ArloLipof
@ArloLipof 8 лет назад
@Spencer 3035 No, he isn't. He just copied my comment from the day before...
@nychold
@nychold 8 лет назад
LDHFIntegrale Actually, I worked it out myself. But nice conceit there.
@ArloLipof
@ArloLipof 8 лет назад
And a liar at that. Sad.
@nychold
@nychold 8 лет назад
LDHFIntegrale Cool story bro. Too bad it's fiction.
@sirjohnnyg
@sirjohnnyg 8 лет назад
a = first number (F1) b = second number (F2) F3 = a + b F4 = a + 2b ... F7 = 5a + 8b ... Sum F1 through F10 = 55a + 88b F7*11 = F10 Symmetric if you write them in the other order to start.
@GiladTeller
@GiladTeller 8 лет назад
My friend told me a Fibonacci joke, it was as bad as the last two combined.
@gojoubabee
@gojoubabee 8 лет назад
Haha nice. I also have a joke, this one's about Fermat; but the problem is I don't think it will fit in the comment section.
@whitherwhence
@whitherwhence 8 лет назад
+MegaMrFroggy l have found a truely marvellous joke about Fremat, this comment section is to narrow to contain.
@SpiffyCheese2
@SpiffyCheese2 7 лет назад
Don't Steal Arthur Benjamin's joke!
@CameronChardukian
@CameronChardukian 5 лет назад
I saw this on another video, but I just now understand lol
@SirSethery
@SirSethery 8 лет назад
Except I don't know anyone who wouldn't screw up the adding part.
@ipassedtheturingtest1396
@ipassedtheturingtest1396 8 лет назад
same
@jfb-
@jfb- 8 лет назад
Give them a calculator
@thegrandmuftiofwakanda
@thegrandmuftiofwakanda 8 лет назад
I don't have any friends that can add 2 numbers together, sorry.
@nonrompereddddffd5450
@nonrompereddddffd5450 8 лет назад
i dont have friends at all
@aifesolenopsisgomez605
@aifesolenopsisgomez605 7 лет назад
Non Rompere Ddddffd :'( me neither
@thegrandmuftiofwakanda
@thegrandmuftiofwakanda 7 лет назад
Lolzords. I wasn't saying I don't have friends. I do. They are just morons.
@nanigopalsaha2408
@nanigopalsaha2408 4 года назад
@@thegrandmuftiofwakanda They probably think a moron is a particle.
@qbwkp
@qbwkp 8 лет назад
I did this in school, I now have 3 girlfriends and 7 side-chicks. All of them products of my vast intellect of course.
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 8 лет назад
so they're imaginary? do you even go to school? what is real anymore!??
@julianjimenez4046
@julianjimenez4046 8 лет назад
+mrBorkD Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
@someguyusingyt9091
@someguyusingyt9091 8 лет назад
Causing a landslide No escape from reality Face the truth
@ubererhs2898
@ubererhs2898 8 лет назад
open your eyes
@ubererhs2898
@ubererhs2898 8 лет назад
+Mendel Chow caught in a landslide*
@mattyfox666
@mattyfox666 8 лет назад
I tried this at my friends house, they called me a nerd and beat the piss out of me, thanks a bunch
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
+mattyfox666 You need better friends
@jimmythewig3354
@jimmythewig3354 5 лет назад
@@singingbanana I don't think he was being serious... :)
@orangeshoes
@orangeshoes 4 года назад
@@jimmythewig3354 I don't think he was being serious either... :P
@rith359
@rith359 3 года назад
@@singingbanana Can we be friends?
@lilliangrace9505
@lilliangrace9505 3 года назад
I used to add the fibonacci numbers to get to sleep. numbers and patterns have always brought me peace. Thank you for this trick! It's fun and great knowledge
@evanfortunato2382
@evanfortunato2382 4 года назад
this man really just hit us with "the proof is left as an exercise to the reader"
@Doeniz1
@Doeniz1 5 лет назад
I played around with this a little bit and observed the following: To every second number (all on odd positions) there is a point, where all numbers summed together are a multiple of this particulary number: The sum of the first three numbers is always two times the third. The sum of the first six numers is always four times the fifth. The sum of the first ten numbers is always eleven times the seventh. (The subject of the video) The sum of the first fourteen numbers is always 29 times the ninth. The sum of the first eightteen numbers is always 76 times the eleventh. The sum of the first 22 numbers is always 199 times the thirteenth. It feels like the sum of the first 4n-2 numbers is always k times the (2n+1)th number, but I can't find a pattern in the k values. I would be glad if James could make another video about this where he explains the patterns
@benbradley_123
@benbradley_123 8 лет назад
I'm going to this year's Fibonacci Convention - apparently, it's going to be as big as the last 2 put together!
@TheSucread
@TheSucread 8 лет назад
Well this induction proof is astoundingly simple. You don't even need a piece of paper. Just pause a video and do it in your head. Beautiful piece of mathematics James!
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
It is - I was considering doing it for the video, but decided people who know induction can do it themselves, and people who don't will just enjoy the bit with the trick.
@jasonwilson1581
@jasonwilson1581 8 лет назад
Thank you, Dr. Grime! I'll show this to the middle school students in my Intro to Number Theory class today.
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
Perfect. I thought this would be one for teachers :)
@jasonwilson1581
@jasonwilson1581 8 лет назад
The kids loved it. I did it a few times with the class & they copied down the examples. After two days, most of the kids, either through trial & error or algebra, found the pattern. A couple of them are now seeing how far they can take it out to find an easy multiplication trick for a longer series of numbers.
@boumbh
@boumbh 8 лет назад
Generalization for any: f a Fibonacci series n a natural number k an odd natural number L the Lucas series (2, 1, 3, 4, 7, 11, 18...) f(n+2k) = L(k+1) × f(n+k) + f(n) For n = 2, you get f(2+2k) = L(k+1) × f(n+k) + f(2) f(2k+2) − f(2) = L(k+1) × f(2+k) Sum of all the elements of f from 1 to 2k = L(k+1) × f(2+k) Example for n = 2, k = 5 : f(2+2×10) = L(5+1) × f(2+5) + f(2) f(12) = L(6) × f(7) + f(2) f(12) − f(2) = 11 × f(7)
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 лет назад
The connection between this trick and the Lucas sequence can also be expressed as follows: When your volunteer V gets to the seventh number (S7) in her/his sequence, then you multiply that number by 11 to get the partial sum for S10, as Dr Grime showed. When V gets to S9, you multiply by 29 to get the partial sum for S14. When V gets to S11, you multiply by 76 and get the ps for even further ahead, namely S18. And so on. These multipliers are alternate terms in the Lucas sequence, and if you can memorise them (or just use it openly as a reference) you can still come up with results to impress your friends even though you probably have to use a calculator. You can go in the opposite direction down from S7 too of course: at S5 the multiplier is 4 to get the ps for S6. And at S3 you multiply by 1 to retrodict rather than predict the ps for S2.
@SPACKlick
@SPACKlick 8 лет назад
Paused at 2:05 to wok out the answer. Each term is as follows (x,y,x+y,x+2y,2x+3y,3x+5y,5x+8y,8x+13y,13x+21y,21x+34y) which sums to 55x+88y, the fourth term from the bottom is 5x+8y which is 1/11 of the sum. I'm sure there are other things you can do with this because the coefficients are all fibonacci numbers. e.g. Sum to the 6th term is 4 times the 5th term. and sum to 14th is 29 times the 9th term
@guitarinos
@guitarinos 8 лет назад
well done, but what do you mean by other things that can be done with this?
@SPACKlick
@SPACKlick 8 лет назад
As shown in the e.g. I'm sure there are other sets of numbers you could use to get something with this.
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 лет назад
In your e.g. you note that sum to the 6th term is 4 times the 5th term, and sum to the 14th is 29 times the 9th term. We can also see that sum to the 18th is 76 times the 11th term, sum to the 22nd is 199 times the 13th term and so on. What I find fascinating is that while the coefficients in your nx + my expressions are Fibonacci numbers, 4, 11 (James' example), 29, 76, and 199 are alternate Lucas numbers. And the next alternate Lucas term down from 4, namely 1, can be derived from "sum to the 2nd term is 1 times the 3rd term".
@eacy7deacy
@eacy7deacy 8 лет назад
Let's choose the numbers x and y 1. x 2. y 3. x+y 4. x+2y 5. 2x+3y 6. 3x+5y 7. 5x+8y 8. 8x+13y 9. 13x+21y 10. 21x+34 The sum of all these is 55x+88y=11*(5x+8y) which is the 7th column.
@Luffy_wastaken
@Luffy_wastaken 4 года назад
Or the last 4th...
@yonigolombek3335
@yonigolombek3335 3 года назад
@@Luffy_wastaken and extend it for the other fact: 11. 34x+55y 12. 55x+89y 55x+88y=55x+89y-y
@MG30001
@MG30001 8 лет назад
multiplying by 11 much easier: n * 10 + n
@heyitsalex99
@heyitsalex99 8 лет назад
i agree lol
@ehsan_kia
@ehsan_kia 8 лет назад
That's basically the same thing. Times 10 you just add a zero, but then the addition is the slightly slower part, but if you think about it, that's basically exactly what his trick is doing. You can ignore the first digit since it's being added to 0 and won't carry over, so you only care about the middle digit carrying.
@ricato2
@ricato2 8 лет назад
That's the normal way. His way is much faster
@Shadowmere29
@Shadowmere29 8 лет назад
This way is the exact same as what is shown in the video. There are no fewer and no extra steps.
@Cream147player
@Cream147player 7 лет назад
You will never get as quick doing it that way as his way. T'is the difference between adding a 3 digit number and a 2 digit number, and adding two 1 digit numbers. It's obvious which is actually easier.
@weckar
@weckar 8 лет назад
I realize it's a little off-topic, but it needs to be said that you have the most contagious smile on the internet.
@azyfloof
@azyfloof 8 лет назад
That's smart :D Beats the crap out of those "subtract the number you first thought of, your answer's 9" type 'tricks' :P
@denummer1893
@denummer1893 6 лет назад
That is Sooooo true
@PrinceKumar-nu6ik
@PrinceKumar-nu6ik 6 лет назад
1to 20 countine chosse any 6 number sum is 20 wo konsa number hoge jin 6 number ka sum 20 hoga
@RedTiGeRJJ
@RedTiGeRJJ 8 лет назад
Thank you ! I will try this tomorrow with my teacher!
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
Yes! :D
@kasperm.r.guldberg7354
@kasperm.r.guldberg7354 8 лет назад
Great stuff, James! The multiply-by-11-trick reminded me of old Trachtenberg! His ghost lives on... Keep the videos coming when you've time.
@DitDede
@DitDede 8 лет назад
thanks! my 10 yo son loved it - and ended up learning how to multiply by 11. He was even able to prove it: 55a+88b = 11(5a+8b)
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
+DitDede This has made my day!
@mrrubixcubeman
@mrrubixcubeman 8 лет назад
I have a question. What do you do for a living? Are you a teacher? How do you make your money? This would be like the best life ever for me. Your videos are great!
@Minecraftster148790
@Minecraftster148790 8 лет назад
I think he might be a professor at Cambridge. Not sure though
@VicvicW
@VicvicW 8 лет назад
I thought it was Nottingham.
@heyitsalex99
@heyitsalex99 8 лет назад
proffessor at nottingham
@tj12711
@tj12711 8 лет назад
+tman301j He taught courses on Cryptography at Cambridge Link: www.ice.cam.ac.uk/components/tutors/?view=tutor&id=1892&cid=6842
@pegy6384
@pegy6384 8 лет назад
He used to work with the Millennium Maths Project at Cambridge, but he is a freelance maths presenter now. He has several different presentations that he gives in the UK and around the world, but the topic he's probably best known for is the cryptography of the Enigma machine. He has addressed it in various videos and on his website.
@martinepstein9826
@martinepstein9826 5 лет назад
Instead of using induction I rewrote it as a telescoping sum. F(1) + F(2) + ... + F(n-1) + F(n) = (F(3) - F(2)) + (F(4) - F(3)) + ... + (F(n+1) - F(n)) + (F(n+2) - F(n+1)) = -F(2) + F(n+2)
@azlhiacneg
@azlhiacneg 8 лет назад
I'm so showing this to my discrete math professor. Fibonacci and induction. I don't know what could get him more excited. :D
@WhiteRAZOR
@WhiteRAZOR 8 лет назад
In 1995 when I was in grade 2 I looked like a genius when I could multiply by 11. I tried showing this off to a few friends just then and they just said something along the lines of "can't math. Art degree". I miss primary school. I had morale.
@sk8rdman
@sk8rdman 8 лет назад
When I was in highschool I developed a system for quickly squaring 2 digit numbers in my head. It was great for my physics and algebra homework, but nobody else really cared "cuz calculators".
@WhiteRAZOR
@WhiteRAZOR 8 лет назад
Ah the tech generation problem. I mean, I don't think it's a problem like our older generation says, but it's always interesting and admirable to hear about self discoveries. In school I also self-discovered how to add two fractions with unlike denominators. We were learning about LCM at the time using the tedious 'list all factors' method. I discovered that I could just multiply each fraction with the other denominator to produce like fractions. It didn't produce the lowest multiple denominator but I solved my exercises in a less tedious and more efficient way. This got me some grief for not doing the task at hand actually. I didn't know what I was doing at the time but I discovered it worked for all fractions. My mind was blown. Only when we learnt algebra (in the following year?) I proved to myself a/b + c/d = ad/bd + cb/db. Mind blown again!
@teuthida1657
@teuthida1657 8 лет назад
Proving the sum formula by linear algebra is a good exercise too. It isn't as straightforward as induction, but it lets you find out the thesis by yourself.
@SchuldinerLA
@SchuldinerLA 8 лет назад
Good trick! The proof is fairly easy once you prove (with induction, as you said) that thing about the sum of Fibonacci numbers. Thank you very much for the videos you make here and with numberphile!
@fablungo
@fablungo 8 лет назад
Or have a race to the 12th number, let them do all the hard work and when they get to the 6th number, multiply by 11, add the second one and write that down. Probably more impressive with big numbers, but it will seem like you were doing in your head faster than they could do it with paper.
@brunosouza8640
@brunosouza8640 7 лет назад
I love you man, you are amazing! Your vids on numberphile are my favourite as well! The excitement on your eyes everytime you share new facts and curtiosities really brings out my curiosity for math! (Even though i hate algebra!) Shout outs from Brazil!
@thomasalexander1563
@thomasalexander1563 7 лет назад
Can't wait to see more in this channel and numberphile.. Thank you
@Maninawig
@Maninawig 7 лет назад
I love this trick! I am also interested in mathematical tricks such as 1089, which takes a random number, does a few calculations that don't cancel themselves out (like Add 3, multiply by 2, subtract 6, now divide it in half), but I am having a hard time to search out more of these equations. Do you know if these types of equations have a group name or something to help my search?
@NFSHeld
@NFSHeld 2 года назад
What you described cancels itself out... x (add 3) x+3 (multiply by 2) 2x+6 (subtract 6) 2x (divide in half) x. 😁
@michaelempeigne3519
@michaelempeigne3519 7 лет назад
nth term formula for the fibonacci sequence derivation 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, .............. F_n = F_(n - 1 ) + F_(n - 2 ) I like to call the first term as the 0th term. Let F_n = r^n so F_(n - 1 ) = r^( n - 1 ) and F_(n - 2 ) = r^( n - 2 ) That means that r^n = r^( n - 1 ) + r^( n - 2 ) 1 = ( 1 / r ) + ( 1 / r^2 ) r^2 = r + 1 r^2 - r - 1 = 0 using the quadratic formula we obtain : r_1 = ( 1 + sqrt ( 5 ) ) / 2 and r_2 = ( 1 - sqrt ( 5 ) ) / 2 Now let F_n = a*( r_1 )^n + b*(r_2 )^n F_n = a * [ (1 + sqrt 5 ) / 2 ]^n + b * [ ( 1 - sqrt 5 ) / 2]^n Let's try it for the first two terms since it is going to be the easiest values. 1 = a + b 1 = a * [ ( 1 + sqrt 5 ) / 2 ] + b * [ ( 1 - sqrt 5 ) / 2 ] solving the system of two equations yields : b = ( - 1 / sqrt 5) [ ( 1 - sqrt 5 ) / 2] a = ( 1 / sqrt 5 ) * [ (1 + sqrt 5 ) / 2 ] Now to back substitute : F_n = ( 1 / sqrt 5 ) * [ ( 1 + sqrt 5 ) / 2 ]^( n + 1 ) - ( 1 / sqrt 5 )* [ ( 1 - sqrt 5 ) / 2 ]^( n + 1 )
@KRYPTOS_K5
@KRYPTOS_K5 4 года назад
Excellent lesson. Shorter, clearer, funnier and more complete than the average competitors. It would be interesting to show the "minus second term" pattern during the sums using a table in order to show the inductive pattern explicitly.
@cQunc
@cQunc 6 лет назад
Instead of doing a couple more steps, you can stick with what you have. F(n+2) = F(n+1) + F(n) = (F(n) + F(n-1)) + F(n) = 2F(n) + F(n-1). So you're calculating 2F(n) + F(n-1) - F(2).
@Dank_SomeOne
@Dank_SomeOne 7 лет назад
its crazy how every fibbonacci sequence is unique
@aradhyeagarwal1835
@aradhyeagarwal1835 8 лет назад
This is really easy James; you write the first number as a and the second number as d and the write all the ten numbers in terms of a and d and then calculate their sum in terms of the same, and one would find that it is 11 times the 4th number from the bottom.
@TheDonuts42
@TheDonuts42 8 лет назад
An easier way to do the n case is to double the last number, then add the second to last number, then subtract the second number.
@BigDBrian
@BigDBrian 8 лет назад
Lemme check, does 2f(n)+f(n-1)-f(2) equal f(n)+f(n+1)-f(2)? 2f(n)+f(n-1)=f(n)+f(n+1) f(n)+f(n-1)=f(n+1) correct(because of the definition of fibonacci numbers, woo!)
@ironman-br8hw
@ironman-br8hw 7 лет назад
Wanna hear a good fib? Dancer says blitzen speaks elven; blitzen says yes; dancer says blitzen speaks 'other' languages as well; blitzen says yes; Dancer wants to know if blitzen is lying.
@MrMas9
@MrMas9 7 лет назад
Was really awesome seeing you today at the Institution of Education man! Thoroughly enjoyed the talk :)
@hydorah
@hydorah 8 лет назад
Your easy multiply by 11 method is a bit mental! Very creative! I just multiply by ten and add the quantity multiplied to that once, to make 11 x whatever. But seeing yours was intriguing. Alround good vid
@bryphi77
@bryphi77 8 лет назад
This trick just got me layed!
@RealCadde
@RealCadde 8 лет назад
Your spelling suggests you are in kindergarten. That's dirty.
@bryphi77
@bryphi77 8 лет назад
Cadde Cant you go torture someone on a grammar channel?
@RealCadde
@RealCadde 8 лет назад
bryphi77 Can't you go learn how to spell? Or go play in your sandpit kid.
@bryphi77
@bryphi77 8 лет назад
+Cadde So you have never made a typo? That is impressive! You are definitely the intellectual superior of us. Sleep well tonight knowing that you have corrected a grammer error of a lesser human.
@gojoubabee
@gojoubabee 8 лет назад
*grammar
@iwersonsch5131
@iwersonsch5131 7 лет назад
The trick is that, with the Fibonacci numbers, is that the n-th number is just the first number times the (n-2)th Fibonacci number plus the second number times the (n-1)th Fibonacci number. So we're just gonna count: 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 So the 7th number is 8 times the second number plus 5 times the first number, while the sum is (34+21+13+8+5+3+2+1)=88 times the second number and (21+13+8+5+3+2+1+1)=55 times the first number, which is just 11 times the 7th number. Ah, and we also see that the sum of those numbers is (the (n+1)th Fibonacci number -1) times the second number, plus the n-th Fibonacci number times the first number.
@GirGir183
@GirGir183 4 года назад
What if, at the beginnin I said 5 and 8...not 8 and 5. The 3rd, 4th, 5th etc totals would still be the same, but the second number in the column would now be 8, not 5.
@theo7371
@theo7371 8 лет назад
Since many people her like Lucas sequences, I propose a pretty fun problem to examine: Suppose we create a sequence by taking any two real numbers (x and y) and extend the sequence with the Lucas sequence rule (every next term is equal to the sum of the previous two) but also extend it to the other end (with the rule that every previous term is equal to the difference between the next ones. So the general sequence with x and y would have the form: .... -3x+2y, 2x-y, -x+y, x, y, x+y, x+2y, 2x+3y, .... Let's name the terms: .... a(-1)=-x+y, a(0)=x, a(1)=y, .... Show that as n goes to infinity: lim(a(n)/a(n-1))=φ for almost every sequence and that as n goes to minus infinity this limit goes to -1/φ for almost every sequence. The key to my solution to this was finding the small special group of sequences for which this is not true and making a clever observation.
@ferncat1397
@ferncat1397 8 лет назад
I love watching your videos. They always leave a smile on my face. Your passion and enthusiasm are infectious! Thank you!
@benjammin8184
@benjammin8184 8 лет назад
Do you ever get tired of being such a maths legend?
@fergusmaclachlan1404
@fergusmaclachlan1404 7 лет назад
Who would get tired of being a maths legend?
@ekroz2890
@ekroz2890 8 лет назад
Liked the math, loved the little mouse in the corner of the chalkboard.
@charlottedarroch
@charlottedarroch 8 лет назад
A more general version of this trick is to say S(4n+2)=L(2n+1)*F(2n+3), where F(n) is the nth number in your generalised Fibonacci sequence, S(n)=F(1)+F(2)+...+F(n) and L(n) is the nth Lucas number, indexed with L(0)=2, L(1)=1. This video covers the case where n=2, so S(10)=L(5)*F(7), and indeed the 5th Lucas number is 11. The remaining congruences classes mod 4 are not quite as neat, with S(4n)=L(2n+1)*F(2n+1)-F(1), S(4n+1)=L(2n+1)*F(2n+2)+F(1)-F(2) and S(4n+3)=L(2n+1)*F(2n+4)+F(1).
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 8 лет назад
Multiplying by 11 is as simple as this: First multiply by 10. (Just add a freaking 0 to the end.) Then add the original number to that. Multiplying by 9 is almost as easy, you just _subtract_ the original number as the last step. It works for other 10n±1 cases as well. Multiply by 21? First multiply by 2, and tack on the 0. Then add the original number. Multiply by 39? Multiply by 4, tack on the 0, subtract the original number. No matter the number of digits involved, the rules don't change.
@rebia5542
@rebia5542 7 лет назад
do you know the 111 trick? it just a cool little design under the number. For Example: 231×111= 25641 - (it's easier to show on paper) --- you write down the last ------ number, 1. Then the last two --- added, 4. Then all three, 6. - Then the first two, 5. And finally, just the 2.
@johnroberts7185
@johnroberts7185 8 лет назад
You're always excited when you're talking about maths. It's a shame that more people aren't like that.
@DjVortex-w
@DjVortex-w 8 лет назад
There's one small problem with this trick. If they make any mistake while creating that list, your answer will be incorrect, and when they check it eg. with a calculator, and your answer does not match, it becomes clear that you tried to use trickery. In order to make sure that your trick works, you would need to check that they calculated all the numbers correctly.
@TheEarthCreature
@TheEarthCreature 8 лет назад
Another way I think of x11s is you add the number to itself plus an extra digit 0 at the end.... for example 11 x 11 = 121 = 11 + 110, or 126163984 x 11 = 126163984 + 1261639840 = 1387903824 It seems to take me roughly about the same amount of time to do it this way as to do it your way, with probably a couple more seconds dedicated to writing the number over before addition.
@iyoutome
@iyoutome 6 лет назад
Thanks brother, starting over again is absolutely awesome. Good thing I'm retired....lol p.s., teaching this to my 6yr old Niece.
@sSunbeamM
@sSunbeamM 8 лет назад
you are probably the worlds most demonstrative example of "how it is like to be in a passion" (?)
@gtziavelis
@gtziavelis 8 лет назад
James, try starting out with 133/11 or 12+1/11 for both the numbers, for a nice little surprise
@UKcuber
@UKcuber 4 года назад
If you do 2 numbers between 1 and 10 you could just memorise the answers since there's only 18 or 19 total possibilities depending on if you allow duplicates.
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 лет назад
Shorter if harder version of the trick: ask your volunteer to write a column of just six numbers using the same method. When s/he gets to the fifth you can multiply it by 4 to get the sum of all six numbers. So in James' first example: 8+5+13+18+31+49 = 124 = 4x31. Here's an even shorter one if you're in a hurry: 8+5+13 = 26 = 2x13. (What about longer versions?)
@bretthaupt1019
@bretthaupt1019 4 года назад
It should be noted that this is not unique to 10 values. There is an equivalent formula thathappens every 4n+2, just with a different constant. For instance, the sum of 30 numbers is 1364 times the 17th number in the sequence.
@bretthaupt1019
@bretthaupt1019 4 года назад
I should elaborate that the constant will be ϕ (1 + ϕ)^(4n+2) + (1 - ϕ) (2 - ϕ)^(4n+2), where ϕ is the golden ratio.
@nunyabiznis3595
@nunyabiznis3595 3 года назад
x*11 = x*10+x which in many cases is waaaaaaay quicker ie 53*10=530+53=583
@U014B
@U014B 8 лет назад
Aww, there's a little mouse in the bottom corner of your chalkboard! Also, what do magnets have to do with proving the F(n+2)-F(2) thing?
@DeltaForce1522
@DeltaForce1522 8 лет назад
Can't tell if that question is a joke, but I'll answer anyways. He isn't referring to electromagnetic induction, but mathematical induction. It's a proof technique, if you want to look it up.
@akosslemmer4603
@akosslemmer4603 8 лет назад
I was thinking the same, with the induction....
@AinaweeUAE
@AinaweeUAE 8 лет назад
I have a question. For the last trick, F(n+2) - F(2) is the sum F(1) + F(2) + ... + F(n). But the order of the first 2 numbers doesn't matter, so doesn't that mean the answer would not be always correct? Like what if the example you gave was 5 + 8 + ..., then F(2) is 8 and the sum you get is 885 - 8 = 878? What am I missing?
@WayneSinclair1
@WayneSinclair1 8 лет назад
But then F(4) would be 13 + 8 instead of 13 + 5 and so it would lead to a whole different sequence of numbers.
@andrewlouie2
@andrewlouie2 8 лет назад
My friends are going to think I'm so cool!
@reecegielen9295
@reecegielen9295 8 лет назад
Someone help me out here - been too long since I've engaged in any kind of mathematics here... Seems to me that each step can be written as pairs of consecutive Fibbonaci numbers, multiplied by your starting numbers a and b , i.e. Term (N) = F(k)*a+F(k+1)*b, and that the sum described can then be termed as Sum(T1-TN) = a(Sum(F1 to F(N-2))+1) + b(Sum(F1 to F(N-1))), where F1 = 1, F2=1, F3=2, F4=3, F5=5 ... How would you frame such a formula in standard notational conventions? Missed out on statistical mathematics during my school days. Also any holes in the thought process, feel free to bring them to my attention, with the appropriate amount of ridicule of course. EDIT: Note that this applies from Step 4 or 5 onwards, forgot to account for the initial conditions. Yes, yes, I know.
@RasKamun1
@RasKamun1 8 лет назад
I did this a a magic trick. Finally won me a beer, by betting my friend, my math teacher wouldn't know F7 * 11 = E (1-10) Fi
@thalisthes
@thalisthes 8 лет назад
We are currently doing induction in math, and because our teacher is a non-native speaker he always pronounces "assume" as "asshume" and it always cracks me up :P Great video btw.
@claudiocampanella2429
@claudiocampanella2429 3 года назад
Jack is married looking at Anna that if she is not married the answer is "A" yes. In the event that she is married she is looking at George that is not married and therefore Anna is the married person looking at unmarried George, the answer is a definite "A"
@akshhay
@akshhay 7 лет назад
Fibonacci numbers were discovered in India centuries before by the art of music
@kongstrong1938
@kongstrong1938 5 лет назад
My friends can't add. I show them a mirror and they think I am an alien.
@xukaili8272
@xukaili8272 7 лет назад
And then the revived John Von Neumann solves the same sequence before you can times 11 in your head.
@joaocabral3541
@joaocabral3541 7 лет назад
I really like how enthusiastic you are when making this video
@williamrutherford553
@williamrutherford553 8 лет назад
You weren't lying when you said the proof was easy. That's the only time I think the basis was harder to prove than the induction hypothesis.
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
+William Rutherford I agree!
@Fiyaaaahh
@Fiyaaaahh 8 лет назад
If you had given the multiply-by-11 trick it's own video I would have been perfect fine with that lol. That's a nice trick.
@leorocha23
@leorocha23 6 лет назад
absolutely LOVE THIS!! :D I wish I had you as my math teacher :D
@terranceparsons5185
@terranceparsons5185 2 года назад
This is so simple and clever.
@ARidley982
@ARidley982 8 лет назад
I kinda feel like calculating 11n by doing 10n + n is easier than doing this digit addition method, personal preference though.
@javier8920
@javier8920 8 лет назад
I FOUND HIM. YES.
@MG30001
@MG30001 8 лет назад
I tried math tricks at a party once. Since then I visited no more parties :/
@clover7359
@clover7359 8 лет назад
Just memorize the repeating decimal places of fractions with 17 in the denominator and hope that someday someone needs to know one in decimal form. Then just start spouting accurate digits while somebody gets a calculator.
@sk8rdman
@sk8rdman 8 лет назад
That's pretty funny, but alas people rarely divide by such a large prime number for exactly that reason. The answer's not pretty.
@3snoW_
@3snoW_ 8 лет назад
for any starting numbers a and b: F1 - a F2 - b F3 - a + b F4 - (a+b) + b = a + 2b F5 - (a+b) + (a+2b) = 2a + 3b *F6 - 3a + 5b* F7 - 5a + 8b F8 - 8a + 13b F9 - 13a + 21b F10 - 21a + 34b F11 - 34a + 55b F12 - 55a + 89b F1 + F2 + ... + F10 = F12 - F2 = 55a + 89b - b = 55a + 88b = 11*(5a + 8b) = 11*F6 Proven :)
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 лет назад
Also F1 + F2 + ... + F6 = F8 - F2 = 8a + 12b = 4*(2a + 3b) = 4*F5, and (trivially) F1 + F2 = F4 - F2 = a + b - b = 1*a = 1*F1. These three multipliers, 1, 4, 11, are alternate terms in the Lucas sequence, as is 29 in the case of F14 and 76 for F18 and so on.
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 лет назад
Correction: F1 + F2 = F4 - F2 = a + 2b - b = a + b = 1*(a + b) = 1*F3
@CardTrickBoysHD
@CardTrickBoysHD 8 лет назад
Hi James nice to have you back on the Tube!
@heyitsalex99
@heyitsalex99 8 лет назад
people like you, matt parker, steve mould etc. live the life i really wanna live, but first i must do a maths degree, i hope i get in to the uni ive chosen
@varunnrao3276
@varunnrao3276 7 лет назад
Hey Amazing vid !! I am just curious about your opinion on Vedic Mathematics
@brainbytes1202
@brainbytes1202 7 лет назад
Thanks for the video! As usual, your videos are awesome!
@MexieMex
@MexieMex 8 лет назад
I've been using this trick to win beer in proposition bets for years ;^>
@tomwalker996
@tomwalker996 5 лет назад
I absolutely hate math and I can’t stop watching these videos... help!
@uddhavgoel2656
@uddhavgoel2656 8 лет назад
Hey I have seen the same trick on the channel "scam school" by Brian brushwood. Any chance you know him?
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
Oh! I had no idea! I do know Brian, we're internet pals. I hope someone will reply with the link.
@OsamaRana
@OsamaRana 8 лет назад
His delivery is a lot more forced. Plus, that hairstyle.
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
Thanks. Ah, it was five years ago - I think that's acceptable. Good old Brian.
@Shadowmere29
@Shadowmere29 8 лет назад
I heard about this trick about 8 years ago when I was 9 from a book called Secrets of Mental Math by Arthur T. Benjamin and Michael Shermer. Have you heard of either of them?
@WalterKingstone
@WalterKingstone 8 лет назад
Ishaan Sabnis I have, that's where I first saw this trick too. Arthur Benjamin's amazing.
@mahmoudelsharawy5405
@mahmoudelsharawy5405 8 лет назад
My friend literally showed me this trick a few days before this came out.
@Aerialyn
@Aerialyn 6 лет назад
Fibonacci 0,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765...
@casumma
@casumma 3 года назад
Hi There-on your chalkboard did you know that you actually inverted the order of the first two digits in your sequence? I’m no math genius, but I do believe that in a Fibonacci sequence it is the number 5 followed by the number 8. (0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13...etc.) However, You wrote: 8, 5, 13, 18. This throws off all the subsequent sums. Shouldn’t it be instead: 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, .... etc? (On the other hand, you have a great smile and telegenic personality)
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 8 лет назад
If I haven't been watching, can I still get thanks?
@candeevaniderstine8064
@candeevaniderstine8064 8 лет назад
Love all your videos! Thanks so much.
@hansmuller1846
@hansmuller1846 8 лет назад
Sittin there thinkin "What the f*ck, this actually works"
@user-qb4ke6gm5b
@user-qb4ke6gm5b 7 лет назад
You should go over Pascal's triangle!
@LanceBloxx
@LanceBloxx 8 лет назад
I think i found a little mistake in the last explanation. I am well aware of how the fibonacci system works. But in the end he says that F1+F2+....+Fn = F(n+2)-F(2). In his Example it is 8 and 5, which is 13 and so on. And he is correct by the sum of 885. But 8+5 is exactly the same as 5+8. In this case it would be F(n+2)-F(1). So it should be minus the lower number. In all his examples he wrote the lower number as second number, that's why it worked out. Or i am just too bad in understanding him, in case he even said that :P
@singingbanana
@singingbanana 8 лет назад
If you start with 5, 8 you get a different sequence.
@asdfghyter
@asdfghyter 8 лет назад
Nope. Try it out. Using 3 and 8 gives a different result than using 8 and 3.
@chrisg3030
@chrisg3030 8 лет назад
I've been looking into what happens when you swap round Fibonacci terms (as you happened to do in your first example) but keep adding them the same way. When you begin 8,5 instead of 5,8 and continue 13,18,31,49,80,129,209, 338 . . . , the 7th number after 13 equals twice 13 squared. Start with 13,8 for example and the 8th term after their sum, 21, is 882. That's twice 21 squared. And so on. Moreover 7 and 8 are the original Fibonacci indexes for 13 and 21 respectively. Maybe a trick can be made out of this too. Finally if you do such a swap on the Fibonacci 1,2 you get the Lucas sequence 2,1,3,4,7,11,18 . . . in which the 4th term after 3 is twice 3 squared.
@jenniferhu3595
@jenniferhu3595 10 месяцев назад
F1 + F2 + F3 +…+ Fn= F(n+2)- F2 F1 + F2 + F3+….+ Fn = F(n+2) - 1 Which one is correct????😅😅😅 Many networks show second formula and prove it! So, can tell me which one is correct?😊😊😊❤
@recklessroges
@recklessroges 8 лет назад
I felt like the last part was a trick because you said that they could write their two numbers in any order. So reversing the 8 and the 5 means the function no longer works.
@sk8rdman
@sk8rdman 8 лет назад
No. If you reverse the order of the first two numbers then the 4th number, in this example, will be 21 instead of 18, and the following numbers will consequently also be different. All of the numbers after the 3rd will be different, and the end total will be different, but it will still be correct.
@PeterPrevos
@PeterPrevos 5 лет назад
The inductive proof of summing Fibonacci sequences is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Cspq_vvScV8.html
@astropgn
@astropgn 8 лет назад
Yey, I prove it without looking at the comments before. Thanks, singingbanana, you are making me do math!
@Aventium
@Aventium 8 лет назад
I got distracted and missed the first minute of the video. I thought this was a stack of random numbers and it was all a joke.
@TerraPupaAbyssus
@TerraPupaAbyssus 7 лет назад
I've never known how to quickly multiply by 11, thank you so much!
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