Summit Adds Front 3rd Function to Rear Hydraulic Kit + Welding Project 

Tim, you are a real asset to the compact tractor community, and these solutions offer a great deal of versatility and usability for the compact tractor owner. Great work! Blessings.

Tim, I want to take this opportunity to thank you and your wife for the wonderful videos that you have produced. You have an easy and understandable way in your presentations that make them enjoyable and instructive. I have learned a great deal! God bless you and your wife; take care Tim.

Tim, this was a great video. I already had Deere install the 3rd function hydraulic on my 1025R when I got the grapple. Yep, it was not cheap. Your welding looked pretty good to me. And just an added note with Kevin's HydrosPlus extra flow pumps. You knowing that you probably would not install a HydrosPlus pump on your 1025R and you have your reasons. You still spent time and money to drive from Indiana to Arkansas just so your subscribers and viewers could see what is available for us sub-compact tractor owners. To me...that shows just how committed you are to this channel. I want to say "thank you Tim for making this channel as good as you can."

Oh my the pull behind box blade that’s sweet and of course the summit hydraulics are great too thanks Tim for the great information.

I literally just bought this kit last night and can't wait for it to arrive. Thank you for continuing to improve on your already great ideas!

God bless you guys. Hope you're well this morning.

Great video Tim. You have great mechanical and design skills! Your weld looked perfect!!

sweet!! Welding projects are my fave right now! Thanks for posting!

I would use “T” fittings and couplings instead of elbows at the valve block so you can still use the valve as a rear remote. Nice to see summit is continuing to help the sub-compacts.

Nice to see new retail/commercial solutions with hydraulics.

This was an excellent excellent video. I feel it really opens the door more for these tractors to be much more capable than we already know.

What a nice kit. And Tim the Deere 3rd function was not that bad to add I had 738 for mine love it. I’m so ready for my 2038r

The improved hydraulic system looks great. And based on many of the comments, it looks like folks have used it on other brands with great success. I look forward to seeing the prototype box blade, with all those hydraulic hoses, it looks really versatile and easy to get a lot of work done fast. Really though, that would have made a great additional episode. I hope folks that might be interested in tackling a similar project are able to find it.

Great Job Tim!

I am excited for more on that box blade!!

This was a great video Tim. Coupled with a new video "Choosing the right hydraulics" you did a couple of days ago all of my questions are answered. I normally like to go with oem solutions because the fit & finish is usually better then aftermarket. However I will be ordering a 1025R with a Mauser cab and thanks to you I will get the complete "ultimate" hydraulic solution from Summit....4 spool rear hydraulic with the Summit 3rd function and Summit Power Beyond kit. The only thing I wouldn't get (that you do with the oem 3rd function) is steel lines on the loader and that's ok. The complete Summit package looks pretty nice. I will just have to figure out how to mount it on the back with a Mauser cab but that shouldn't be to difficult. Thanks again.

Very practical solution, I like it 👍

The price and simple installation of the Ultimate Kit is VERY attractive! Looks like I might have to cash in my scrap pile. ;)

Good info, Tim!

Thanks!

Nice 3rd and 4th function for the FEL. Funny you have a prototype pull type box blade.. we only have a pull type box blade and no normal box blade in the Netherlands...

Another awesome video , ty Tim ,

this is a good solution for 3rd function

I already did this when I installed my summit kit. Only difference is I left the rear quick connects in case I ever need them

I think another good option for the switch block is a kit with TWO of the joystick controls. One with two controls for the front loader like you have and the same type of controller for the three point lift control. That way if you’re using the extra hydraulics for a hydraulic top link or side arm link you can control an implement like a box blade with your hand in one place and it’ll give you control of hight, angle, and pitch.

Your solutions have solutions. That’s a lot of solutions

Man part of me wishes I waited, but I needed a grapple for a few jobs and couldn’t wait for this kit. I ended up routing hoses under the tractor with quick couplers connected to some hoses on the loader. It works great, but I might pick up a joystick controller just to make it easier to use and then I plan on moving the original switch block somewhere else, as I’ve found it’s in the way for most of the jobs I do. I really appreciate your work on this kit, you have made my tractor more useful for more jobs!

Tim I have been watching your videos for a few years now, and I must admit when I first starting watching, I said to myself, he is going to try and use an over grown lawn mower, as a tractor to do work. I can tell you over the last few years, I have had to eat those words, as Johnny 1 has more than pulled it's weight a number of times. I have an old David Brown 990 with a loader 58 HP, and I am amazed at how well it works for being a 1967 and ridden hard and abused for the majority of it's life. As with many older tractors it was replaced by a modern tractor, and although still used, it was fixed with bubble gum, and duct tape, leaks here and there, and for the most part, needed a lot of little fixes to bring it back from the brink. I have been thinking hard about a new tractor, and thinking I should get something over the 60hp range, as here there is no sales tax (15%) if it is rated for 60hp or more on the PTO. But as you can guess when you take that jump from 50ish to the larger tractors there is a $15000 increase in the sticker. After watching your channel I must admit I really do not have a use for a tractor that large, and if I was honest I would have to admit Johnny 1 is doing mostly everything I need to do, except maybe the loader lift capacity. The other option is to buy a gently used tractor 10-15 years old, which do come along quite often, anywhere from the 300-2000 hour range. So in closing I will say, you are a great asset to the tractor world, and bring great knowledge to others through your videos, keep up the good work.

Thank you for fixing my access issue to tractoruniverse, Tim, and I'm sorry I had to come back to The channel to ask. Maybe an easier contact method? Mahalo from Maui Hawaii.

Lets see, if we take the time warp back 40 years keeping present day choices I needed JD 1023R with ALL the the gizmos added: Front snow blower, tiller, loader, forks, stump grinder, back hoe with thumb, wood chipper, grapple, chain saw on a stick... If I remember the JD 1023R needs more hydraulic flow for that. I wonder if one could put a regular electric battery chain saw up there??? and many more tools. (and do not forget the RimGuard) Also a Ventrac with the MA900 boom mower, MS720 finish mower, the flex deck, large area mower, tough cut, collection system, leaf plow, turbine blower, snow blower, power bucket and dual tires. 48" XLT Country Clipper with joystick steering, Toro 5910 (AC in the cab and cuts 16 foot of grass at a time) eXmark Commercial 30 and other smaller things. I would stay with my junk trucks because they are cost effective: the job is mowing most of the time, not showing off fancy 4X4s I see some using these days. My new JD mowers were 20 times or more the value of my rusty trucks. I would however get a small dump truck and dump trailer. That is a good start on the list! I knew something was missing! Girillo G110 with rotary plow, 22 inch tiller, Caravaggi stump grinder, Berta 28" snow blower and 33 Zanon mower and possible other tools for getting in small areas and my own garden at the time. That is a good start anyway!! Clearly I needed to mow grass, however being able to clean up a yard that was a disaster with the JD 1023R would of been a vary big help! Cleaning up a nasty yard often got me a lawn mowing costumer.... I also would of been able to help more effectively making gardens for people with the 1023R and the G110 with rotary plow. I would keep my mowing on the other machines and use the 1023R to do all the odd jobs. Mowing takes up a lot of hours so I would want to keep the mowing off the 1023R because I would have a vary big investment in tools to do other things. In the winter I would of made a team: 1023R with front blower, The Original Tractor Cab, and weights on back but tow a small wagon with the G110 and snow blower on it for the side walks and I would have to shop for a small snow blower, possibly a Toro power shovel. I have done most of the driveways and the whole street sometimes so I could come in with a wagon to have some additional tools nearby. Snow plow trucks just had no place to push the snow. The blower just dumps it in the middle of the lawn in a few minutes resulting in less things messed up in the lawn.

I pulled the trigger and placed an order. 4 port. I had built a two spool but it had a large footprint and does not fit as well as it did in my mind.

You had me concerned that I might "need" to buy something more. I installed the old 4 valve kit on my Kubota b2910. The only thing I had to do is buy different bolts.

When you got out the grinder n welder you made my heart skip a beat.... this was a great video I really enjoy seeing n hearing about how you work with the big partners you have

as AVE says..... a welder and paint make me the welder I ain't. Any weld that works is a weld that works. great job Tim

Since I brought my tractor to your house for the phase 1 of this installation, maybe you need to come to my house for phase 2 with this add on? 😉 Makes sense to me!

Remember on the farm we had keepers on the tractor to

Next improvement is to find a weather resistant joystick handle with more functions. Would like to see all four electro-valves controlled from the joystick. Possibly a four-way coolie hat in addition to the four buttons.

💥 You’re like Bill Ny the science guy of tractor hydraulics. The tractor community appreciates your expertise! *Keep on tractoring!* 😁👍

Tim, first off I think I have watched all your videos. Great site for us new tractor guys. I recently bought the summit kit with 3rd function. Is there a video that shows the actual routing of the hoses through the frame to the loader connection?

I love your videos they are very detailed I recently bought a Yanmar SA325 but it did not come with the 3rd function or rear remotes is there a kit for a yanmar SA series with hoses

Hey Tim, I love the idea of the FR4-JD1, my question is how can I adapt this system to work for my thumb on my backhoe as well as the way it is already setup to have a convenient switch at the backhoe controls?

Nice kit Tim! Is there any way to get hard lines instead of hoses for the loader part? Or maybe include it as an option in the future.

is it possible to have one of the 4 blocks just a power beyond ( no valve or un switched)? For an implement with its own controls

We just purchased a new 1025r. We wanted them to add power beyond and third function. We were told we could only do one and not both. We went with power beyond. Hopefully we made the right choice.

Now this solution is somethin I can get behind! So if your starting from scratch. Do you need that rear scv and 3rd function kit and the power beyond?

Hi Tim I have a Massey Ferguson sub compact tractor and I was wondering if you could do a Massey Ferguson GC Series vs John Deere 1 series Thanks.

Is that a new Artillion grapple on the pallet?

Good video Tim. I have a question I have a Gen 2 2032r with the factory rear scvs like your 2038r will that 3rd function add on kit work with them if i use 1/2 quick connectors instead of attaching it to the PB? thanks

Nice Video Tim :) . Noob question, please excuse my lack of knowledge. With this kit, will I need to buy a splitter for the front in order to use 2 grapples from Artillian? I didn't see a splitter on Summit site and wonder if the Artillian splitter will work with the Summit system. Thanks again Tim

Great videos, I watched multiple times getting ideas. Couple questions, I have a 2000 John Deere 4100, I'd like to add 3rd function hydraulic, do you recommend Artillian or Summit, I see you've worked with both. Do I need a power beyond kit first ? I would like to be able to run a hydraulic dump trailer also sometimes in the rear. Thanks for any help or suggestions and info.

spatter guard Tim, it a spray that helps keep weld spatter ( hot metal spitting ) off of metal ( or possably go pro's lenses ) from sticking on stuff you don't want it on.

tameit is the spelling. Only Boltonhooks search worked.

Summit doesn’t explicitly say this works for the 3 series…but, if the 3025e has power beyond installed…this should work, right? Now, maybe summit didn’t list the series 3 because it’s less necessary. From what I can tell, this is the best solution for the 3025e, for RR or TF. Great video! Thanks

Now that you have the third function kit, this is looking more appealing for my needs. The one question I have is given the placement of the rear hydraulics, have you noticed any problems getting off and on the backhoe? Perhaps being a bit more robust in the midsection than you I am concerned they might be in the way. Can you mount both the hydraulic lines and the switch arm on the same side of the tractor? Oh and if you need a volunteer tractor to install one of these on, I would be happy to offer my Lil’ Jack as a test subject. At my expense of course 😬

Summit needs to make a some changes to the rear hydro block bracket for the 2000 series. The base is a little wider.

Hi Tim, I just ordered the 3 valve rear remote kit with the third function kit included for my 1025r. I’m not sure if you are aware but they have changed the coupler bracket that you show in the picture for this video. It no longer mounts on the tractor frame, and now they have it mounting to the loader which means your hoses are left dangling out of the tractor when you separate the tractor from the loader. Far from ideal, and they are telling me I can’t get the bracket in this video. Thanks for all the great content. I’m learning a lot from your channel.

Thanks for the video. I think you mention if you have already installed the rear multiplier but I've done the opposite and just added the Summit 3rd Function Diverter kit but am interested in adding the Rear Multiplier (4) for TNT, etc. later....so just to clarify... ideally would I need to buy the Rear Multiplier kit and then the new joystick with 2 switches and then a 2 switch box? Thanks

As a noobie guy. For the switch location for the hydraulic top link, would putting the switch on the up/down control arm for the 3 pt be more user friendly?

Hi Tim, Thanks for this video and the earlier video on the Summit multiplier. After some thought the Summit multiplier installation, I thought of a copule of questions. I have a 2014 1025r with a 260 backhoe, so I don't have a separate seat for the backhoe, my tractor seat spins 180 degrees when I am using the backhoe attachment. So my questions would be can the Summit multiplier be mounted on right hand side of the rops, and will there be clearance for the seat on the older 1025r to still spin around?

Tim great video always find your videos informative been watching for cople years now got a question about the jd 1025r dose it have flot on the loader one of my friends said it didn't if memory serves me right it dose I believe I've seen you talk about it in one of your videos but can't remember ??

just got my 1025r tractor delivered 2 days ago and took your advise and had the dealership install the 3rd function kit for the front and the power beyond hose kit in the rear....id got the front forks from john deere/ frontier AP10F, but also got the John Deere PG11 pallet fork grapple, but i never hear anyone talk about this grapple....could you do so in a future episode Tim??

I have a 2 remotes on the back of my 2038R. Could I just run hydraulic hoses from the back all the way to the 3rd function in the front and use my lever to control?

Tim, maybe you can talk to Sumitt to create a Kit that allows you to use a manual Throw A/B valve placed on to the diverter valve to let me choose weather the trigger sends fluid to the front or say a hydraulic Top Link. A/B valve is already sold by Summitt . It would just take a way to neatly mount the valve to the diverter body with some fittings.

Tim promoting a box blade? Have to see that one.

Have you given any consideration to enabling a continuous flow mode for the third function on the loader (i.e. for a cutter) with the valve kit?

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I didn't realize Tim Conway reviews tractors? You haft to admit you look a lot like Tim Conway

Tim can I use this on my Kubota BX23S ? I watch most all of you vids, love the content keep up the good job.

Is there a way to integrate the joystick to the JD OEM 3rd function controls?

Tim, another great video and another great product! I would like to find a top and tilt kit for my 1025R. Are you working on one of those--or can you point me in a good direction? Thank you!

Tim I’ve got a 3039r with backhoe ordered ( want be here till January ☹️) I intend to put the summit hydraulic kit with third function on it.do you think this kit will work? Love ❤️ your show Learned a lot. Thank you.

Tim, with all the add-ons, do you feel the HydroPlus pump upgrade is needed?

Any idea if they'll developed this same kit for the Kubota people? Specifically the L2501.

I have a 1025 r with a back hole. Can I use the summit 3r function

Is there a way you can have the switch on the joystick and the valve box one connected?

Tim, I was just getting ready to buy a diverter kit for a grapple I plan on buying later this year. Would you recommend the 3rd front SCV over the diverter? I do not have power beyond and in fact I have the JD rear SCV kit (for dump wagon and top link) which I believe is NOT compatible with the power beyond. So I would have to remove that (which was about $600 I think) and get this kit and the power beyond. Is all that worth it to have the front SCV over just the diverter when using the grapple? Thanks.

will this work on a 3 series john deer? this is exactly what im looking for!

Can you look into making a Pedal switch that I could hook the backhoe thumb up to and us the Summit kit ?

What's your opinion on the ease of working the joystick between the John Deere solution and the summit solution for a third function? You always shoot straight with your audience so I wanted to see what you thought.

I am looking at upgrading to a one series. Is there any advantage of going with the deere dealer installed 3 rd function over the Summit version? Other than making your wallet lighter? 1700.00 from the quote i got

Now that Summit is available, would you purchase their 3rd function diverted valve over artillian? It’s quite a difference in price but is the quality or fitment better ? I’m torn…

Hey Tim, is there hay equipment that can be run with a Kubota B2410? I have 3 1/2 acres I will convert to hay from horse pasture.

Any chance to increase the size to a 6 spool block?!

Would this hydraulic kit work for a Kubota B2650?

I went looking for one of these kits for the rear. Summit responded that none of their kits are designed for cab tractors... Any suggestions. I have a 3046r with a front dungeon already. Need to connect my deck to one in back with one or two spare for future implements

You think this would work for an older 755?

Is this kit still available? Could not find it on Summits website. Thanks

I have a question... I bought a MF 1725MB earlier this year... It's a fine machine, yes, it has a backhoe! I am interested in different implements for it, one being a hydraulic top link, the other a small offset flail mower... The mower will run off the PTO, but hydraulics needed for the cylinders to swing, and operate the offset... My tractor does NOT have a 3rd function kit for the front... Can you guide me through what I need to make my desired setup work? Thanks

I honestly do not know why anyone would dislike the video.. Must be Mahindra owners...

Will the 4 valve kit adapt to a 955?

Would there be a differently sized kit for my 50hp 4700? or would this be fine for it?

If you haven't already put screw on UV filters on your cameras, do so, they'll take all the scratches and in this case splatters and only cost a few bucks for the "insurance". I get mine at www.bhphotovideo.com. Usually on the front of the lens it'll tell you what mm size you need. I also carry an extra in my bag so if I'm in the middle of a shoot and the 1st one gets trashed I can quickly replace it. Hope this helps someone from having to replace their lens at thousands of $$$.

Tim will this work with a new 2038r? Great video!

@Tim, lil worried brother, you seem to be getting winded a lot in the video. You doing ok?

You're the welder. You're using a welding machine:). I know, everyone calls it (& you) a welder. Problem w/MIG is that yes, they can look beautiful but have poor penetration. Slick setup on the hydraulics.

Do they have that kit for Kubota 2689

Custom arm rest switch kit? RU-vid loves your channel. So do I.

I had not considered that cameras would get ruined before another video of yours and you mentioned it. I do not know anything about these cameras. My guess is that the lens is the most expensive part and so getting a wield spot on it means a new camera not a new lens. Your cameras go into all kinds of dangerous places for a camera! You must have quite a large camera budget!

Sounds like you might be out of breath. Hope you're feeling ok