Summit1g Reacts: Streamer BANNED For CHEATING Tries to DEFEND Himself LIVE! 

also like. I wanna see a guy who goes through device manager , plays tarkov alot but knows everything that is in the device manager and what it does.

"I didnt see it" then admitting to "I deleted it".

Except some CPU's have it by default. Still sus he deleted it probably thinking it was linked to his cheats, even though it wasnt. Just shows he panicked.

@@utubein2024 yeah i got a ryzen 7 2700 and i got the direct memory access controller there aswell, but i wouldnt dare touch that shit since i dont know whats gonna happen to my pc.

Ryzen 7 3700X and I also have the DMAController. Google it and you'll see it's a process for transfering data without the CPU. Not cheat related.

Yep

Yeah the clip on reserve and woods, he is certain of when to stop shooting and that he's not in any danger. On interchange as summit pointed out he didn't gaf about his left side at all. Just hyperfocus on vulnerable targets with no worries in the world for his own positioning.

While it is a red flag, I don't like using this logic when considering someone a cheater as it requires a very large sample size of games. Something I teach my friend when we play is to be more aggressive in certain scenarios and he just responds with "Well what if someone is covering that angle" to which I just say that he's dead either way then, sometimes you just need to take risks and hope you do not die. The downside is that while it's not a regular occurrence, quite rare in fact, you will indeed die to the "what if". To me the snapping is the biggest ones, even with the twitch lag, the moments where he snaps and why do not make much sense. For example that guy on reserve, why snap when they are hidden in a bush where you have no hope of knowing what they are doing and not the moment you spot them out in the open (I also was looking at the crosshair the first time and saw the blur in the peripheral)

@@HellDuke- In this specific example we know he is a very experienced and skilled player supposedly meaning we don't need as big of a sample size. His decision making and game sense are not natural and the stats back that up. When I've watched a really good player like for example WillerZ in the past, when he's aggressive or confident it seems only like that, confidence. When I see this guy play it's closer to a predator with absolute certainty, not confidence. You see this behavior a lot with cheaters, they have a sense of absoluteness.

Exactly. As a non tarkov player I watch the intro thinking "man, escape must be legitlegit, look at him cutting the pie and clearing corners, is this how it's played all the time full swat mode?! Sounds exhausting"... like no, nobodies playing like that all the time 😂

yeah.....was like nadia at lan, or forsaken. 🤣

the deskcam is so obviously cut off so that he can still have a right monitor, and somebody pointed out that early on you could still see the mount of it on the wall above the main lol

@@Toxodos I'm pretty sure he does a full sweep in one of 10IQ's videos, it's like two desktops stacked on one another to his right, I didn't get a good look, but I'm more convinced he's using a tablet or something in his lap since an extra monitor to his left or right is way too obvious. Which is why he won't do a full back cam, he won't have anywhere to hide his ESP device in his lap or anywhere around him.

@@smokeyislove469 lmfao, just imagine someone who is actually good at the game cheating.... it's almost impossible to tell.... one of the biggest giveaways i've ever seen personally is the ability to be in an active engagement while looking off of a screen to find out where the bullets were coming from.... 4.5k hours in tarkov and not once have a been shot at and been able to look off the screen the game is being played on to figure out where they might have shot at me from. Even when i stream i don't ever look at my "chat" after being shot at..... most "creators" are glorified cheaters that hold an audience of people that mostly don't even play the game they are playing. at least that's how it feels.

LMFAO he became "Suddenly_Scared" when he had the headcam. Dude just forgot how to play Tarkov and was scared of everything that moved like a new player with 20 hours LOL.

yeah. how are u supposed to explain that haha

@@tinychamberz Aimbot + wallhacks lmfao its quite literally the only way. 90% sure his "oh" was him realizing deep down that he fucked up.

@@tinychamberz if you go frame by frame you can actually see his head in the crack on the busstop for one frame and that's through a twitchclip that's viewed by summit on twich and then uploaded on youtube so it could look very diffrently from his actual pov but tbh he prob just saw that his hacks said that he was "visable" and therefore said that he saw him because he is a little sus but i don't think it's impossible that he's legit

he perfectly tracked him and started the "theres a third" before he could even see the guy. What a loser

@@zekesunna2003 Which crack bro? Theres no crack there.... You cant see that dude at all untill you see his feet... Hundreds of people are in agreement thats the first contact. But somehow they're all wrong and Ole Zeke in the comments on a 3rd hand quality video spots a face in the crack?

also against TOS

unfortunately BSG doesnt consider this ban evasion. per their own statements.

​@@MrKingglennto get people to spend hundreds on a 55$ game lol

So what? Many top tarkov streamers gang up on people and put pressure on BSG to "act" and they acted to make them and their viewers happy. Happened to many players.

Pretty sure BSG literally says the banned people can rebuy the game in the email they send out to banned players, they're not gonna cut off that source of income 🤣

They have integrity disorders, and should seek therapy.

In single player games like whatever have fun, against other people is scummy. Funny enough a lot of people who play competitive shooter do have some issues be it mental or behavioral, of course there's chill people too but we all know a guy who does too much I'm just saying.

It IS mentally ill.

I’ve cheated once playing nba 2k on pc because everyone was cheating and the game was unplayable, it was the least fun I had playing a video game. I don’t get how people cheat on a daily? Just to pretend they are good?

actually most people will cheat at anything if given a chance

I played clean and bitch made so I stopped playing.

i have to wonder how its fun for them. I can see it being fun for a few hours but its like when you activate cheats in a single player mode, the game gets old fast. I think they eventually convince themselves that its not helping that much so its no big deal.

there are a lot of sad gamers then, cause i read somewhere that 1/4 players is a cheater. thats a lot

That's sadly very true, however, not all sad gamers are cheaters. Just the sad and stupid ones.

@@dano1307 this got to be it man.i dont get it either. or they change games too fast. like every couple of days as if they are on a mission to cheat every game there is but i doubt it. the only other logical explanation i can come up to would be if its not about the game. what if its about writing the cheatmod or how long will it take before they are caught. i dont encourage cheating in any way but for the programmers that write these mods i have a lot of respect. it is challenging to break through any anticheat systems and get a mod working well in a game that shouldnt be modded. thats some good shii . i know a lot of these modders and programmers also do this as practice or fun ,,, but going into the same servers every day to play with cheats,,,, sounds boring

Remember that female COD streamer who got caught cheating at a LAN tournament but activision won’t ban her? The sad reality is, if someone is bringing in the views, the devs don’t really seem to care.

I wonder how many of the best streamers are cheating? In COD , cheaters are allowed in tourneys , then on LAN becoke terrible campers.😂 Stop being pay pigs you weird freaks. Go give money to a church and save some kids instead.

willerz next lmao @@mr.doctorcaptain1124

@10IQGaming I just want to say I'm glad your hard work is starting to get noticed by people. This degenerate needs to be perma banned and destroyed in all ways. Well done man.

@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 hes not bringing in views though. hes not even a big streamer.

Someone else already pointed it out but he literally streamed with a head cam and was (as expected) complete dogshit and missed people literally passing by in his view, but then after he said that 'proved' he was legit but was too uncomfortable to keep going he switched to this not at all suspicious angle that shows neither his mouse nor the rest of his right monitor he's back to being a Chaddicus Maximus again? What a strange and suspicious set of circumstances!

I got a monitor and hand cam and the angle is wacky because my cord is to short for the camera lol I want a wider shot but literally can’t so that isn’t always the case

@@bluehaze3288there are always outliers and whatnot. but generally speaking, shit is sus

​@@bluehaze3288 extension cables are cheap, no excuse

Why do people have this mindset? You can absolutely reform a cheater. Think of it like an alcohol addiction or smoking. People can and will stop an addiction. Only thing going for us you have to give a good reason to stop.

@@aoqia drugs and booze actually have a negative effect on your health if you abuse it long enough cheating doesn't effect you negatively you get instant gratification with no downsides go watch the interview with valves anti cheat director who used to be a cheater himself, with his own words he never been able to play without cheats because he never learned to aim on his own

@@millerthomas4331 Cheating absolutely affects you negatively although most cheaters won't acknowledge the negative side of it until when they realise cheating just sucks. And cheating because you can't aim doesn't mean you can't give up cheating. You just have to learn how to not cheat thus learning how to aim. Everything goes hand in hand.

Most of rust streamers get banned on daily basis, playing always with new accounts. Even making youtube videos titled "I got banned" and posting it as proud moment. It seems no one really cares if streamer cheats as long as it's fun to watch.

This guy is still cheating lol. This is why people have this mindset @@aoqia

This comment, when you have thousands of hours in a game you know what to do, when to look, how to look etc

Yep, I haven't finished this video but the way Summit is trying to 'defend' him or play devil's advocate; the only explanation for the way the cursor follows the third player's movement as he vaults over the fence or whatever it is, is that he was still holding his aimlock key on the second guy and then the third guy got close enough that it moved over to him. These modern cheats don't just next-frame snap like a cheap cs 1.6 multihack aimbot over to the next head because that would be obvious; they have gotten better and better at simulating a 'natural' movement over to the next head, and we see it in this clip as it suddenly jerks his aim over to the third guy and Mr. Legit here realizes this and panics and 'oh- oh theres a third' to cover it, not realizing how this entire interaction looks/sounds to anyone who understands how aimlock works. This is exactly what caught flusha in that infamous cache clip Destiny showed Summit years ago; he hit his aimlock key for a second to see if someone was around the corner (again it quickly moves his mouse in the direction of a player, not instant snapping like an obvious aimbot) and it bugged out and aimed at the guy across the map for a second and flusha thinking it was going to lock on a guy crouched next to the crate there on his left, just starts shooting expecting a kill but oops there was nobody actually there. Whoopsies! This is all literally the same 'realistic' aimlock function in action. I believed then, and still believe now thanks to the prevalence of openly cheating Tarkov streamers, that one day it'll come out just how many of these 'pro' players from CSGO to Rust to now Tarkov are using expensive private cheats mostly from Europe but now also coming out of China.

@@thehoerscorral8565I have 6k hours and I think many of the top streamers cheat and hide it. I used to think they were really good and then I started getting good, and I can say that we’re not playing the same Tarkov as these people. It’s very obvious to me, some of my friends are still in the stage of denial. How can the guy they like watching so much be a cheater? Cause he’s entertaining, he’s still a cheater. lol

this is what happened. fov aimbot glued to the another dude.

@@thehoerscorral8565 The "defend"/devil's advocate coming Summit isn't genuine, respectfully. It's a literal milking of a cow for time and views. Too much time was spent to realize what was up when the movement was clear as day odd.

first of all u need wh to be able to aim on target true wall but y he 100% did cheat u can see on next clip where he turning on aim bot and it auto target man runing, that wasnt lag that was a moment when he hit hotkey to turn on aimbot

Clara sabotaging everyone's streaming career...lol

Cheater* that guy can’t even code ”Hello world!”

​@@MurrayLimeClara is a menace lol, she won't stop downloading cheats on everyone's PC

Don't really play this game b So hard for me to say but I know on dayz it's clear as day to me. A guy doesn't just walk through the pvp spot and not even check his back 😂

no 100% your right , its not what he looks at its what he doesnt look at . why look when he knows its empty because hes walling

@@LH-nd9qg Pretty much. A guy who is "good" at the game at least, noobs will do noob things but this guy had stats better than willerZ

could explain why they don't show the mouse in the camera frame?

A simpler way is just to adjust the opacity of the esp to be invisible at that distance and angle. Very very easy to do

@@ga1acticempire50 that and also if he shows his mouse you would see his aimbot lock without him moving the mouse

He can just have a radar on a screen to the left of his main screen. And the aimbot doesn't have to be shown. A radar in Tarkov is so insanely OP compared to faster games. A very good CS2 player can beat an average wallhacking player. In Tarkov it's the other way around.

People buy ram extensions that store a copy of main ram and use DMA to read from that :d

lmao yeah i literally have that on my pc as we talk right now i have a 5600x and a 6650XT with SAM on and like, this is 100% proof he's cheating 😂😂 if im proving i dont cheat and i see that there, im keeping it there because i dont know what it is and its most likely something important because I KNOW IM NOT CHEATING dude is so scared of getting caught that he self reports by deleting something that ANY legit player wouldnt delete

@@yurilopes420 Yeah, even Intel PCs have a DMA controller, every PC has it. It's just needed so that the CPU can read from RAM. But bc of this special AMD feature (which comes with their drivers) you see it as a device in device manager on AMD PCs. But @gdgd5194 is also right, you can use this feature to read stuff from RAM (or a copy of your RAM) directly, and no anti-cheat can detect it directly, only indirectly if it checks for other apps running in the background. So it is a bit suspicious is you don't use an AMD CPU (it works also with AMD CPU and nVidia GPU combination)

interesting cause i am running all amd system with sam enabled and no dma showing up on my task manager

@@cinchmccoy It could be turned off in your bios. Turn it on to have more stable framerates in games.

Its more like steroids and baseball. We need them to be able to compete at all these days. (That's why I use SPT)

Please no, not such stupid argue, you 're rigth about one thing, we're not in kindergarden anymore, and your parents have told you that nobody cares what other kids are allowed to do or not, it doesn't work this way.. So no cheaters do not encourage anyone to do like them, unless you 're looking for an excuse for cheating yourself?!!! like all the cheaters do...

but youre wrong ... I've had many deaths that were so sus I would have liked to cheat just to get a better understanding of wth is going on .. obv I dont and wont but if I , someone who has NEVER cheated in a pc game ever (only ever gta cheats on story mode) can feel an urge to do the same then MANY others will experience this too and some of those will go for it@@3a3ylon81

Same thing could be said for game breaking bugs like binaural audio popping in alerting you of incoming players 99% the time, being able to vault through walls ect ect. Obviously hacking/cheating is a big deal as well, probably an even bigger one but yea same kind of attitude I mean

@@enderman95 thats a terrible argument. 95% of professional athletes in nfl, mlb, nba are doping. the sports would suffer greatly without it, players would be spending an extra 3 months out recovering or injured. cheating in video games has no benefits

Yeah he changed the angle of the desk cam, but before he did so, you could see the edge of a monitor mount above his main

I don't play tarkov, so the context is a bit lost on me. What does this tell you as someone who does?

@@hannahmonroe3094 he uses ESP cheats to find the motors and sell them

you can put up things on the flea market that other real players can purchase, having 600 motors to just sell off hand is not only inefficent (because of how much space they take up) but also next to impossible. He is taking advantage of an item with higher value that no one really pays attention to. finding 600 motors in a full wipe would be hard to do, and that usually is around 5-7 months. they aren't craftable either, so we are supposed to believe that within a month and some change this guy has just gotten this lucky finding motors. I don't buy it @@hannahmonroe3094

​@@hannahmonroe3094 motors are expensive. Cheaters pick up motors because they usually spawn outside of containers and wall hack to get them. Real players get them then sell 1 or 5 not 75

@@hannahmonroe3094 Motors are a high end loot item, they sell very well & is required for hideout upgrades. They're also big & heavy, taking up 2x2 in your bag, so usually you carry 4 at most. Another thing cheaters do, is list massive amounts of high-end items that will sell i.e Graphics cards, LEDx. To give you an idea how many you can get in a raid, i've played in a 5 man squad for years, the most motors we've ever pulled out of Interchange was 9. So for this guy to put 600+ motors on the flee market, he's looting more than a 5 man squad somehow and still light enough to walk out of the raid. So basically, by listing huge amounts of items on the flee market is evidence that they are loot vaccuming.

I don’t get how people don’t see the fact he snapped on the second guy the same way. He flicks to the second guy dead center mass behind the sign then back to the original guy before the second guy appears. His aimlock got both the second and third guy.

@@ZachM525 People saw it, but which one do you think would be easier to pull up for proof? Use your brain man.

BSG never will cause they make heaps of money from cheaters buying new accounts.

Especially since he "didn't see it" too. So he accidentally deleted something he never saw? 😂

DMA is detected by vanguard because it got so popular. Now you need more stuff to bypass it :D

@@gdgd5194 so what you're saying is that vanguard is objectively the best anti cheat even tho it runs at kernel level and every game should have it? league of legends is gonna get it in the near future and linux and mac users will already be fucked by it

@@yurilopes420 It is by far the best. Yet there are tons of cheaters there. Look up "Hacking into Kernel Anti-Cheats", female programmer explains the situation of cheating in videos games very well.

⁠@@yurilopes420league and Val have the least amount of cheating problems companies should probably learn from ruot

@@alexzhang9468 yeah thats what im saying lmao feels bad cause shitty ass fucking anti cheat you gotta restart your pc if you close it, but yeah it works i guess

good spot!

Yeah, as soon as he misses the shot you can see his finger pressing buttons as he locks on the vault

lol you mean they have peddles that they press with their feet to toggle cheats? lololol

@@KronStaro It honestly wouldn't surprise me at this point; I mean Lvndmark uses foot pedals to mute/skip 777777 spam or other annoying donations LOL

no im sure its possible, i just find it funny that they would actually do that@@thehoerscorral8565

I mean I haven't touched tarkov and my PC Has it running. Ryzen 5900x here. I do have VMware Workstation Pro installed for homelabbing up things in my free time. So I suppose that's possible. But mine is showing up even when VMware isn't even open.

@@Milhouz Yes, but if someone said you had DMA running, would you then delete the file immediately and claim you're not sure where it came from? Probably not, because you would assume it would ruin your PC or GPU in some way. That's what he did, someone said he had DMA running, so he simply deleted it. Makes no sense.

@@Snacks6o4 Yeah im AMD and seen i have DMA in device manager. Didnt delete it because my first thought is "Well i dont cheat so that must be there for a reason". Theres plenty of things that prove Toast is a cheater without even needing to bring up that clip of him deleting the DMA thing anyways.

@@Milhouz why do people keep saying this... it's not about the fact he had it, it's the fact he deleted it then lied about deleting it saying "i didn't see it" and "it wasn't there" trying to gaslight the dude that called him out.

I like the part where he says it "twitch lag"

​@@BovineInterventionWell in some of the clips where it did seem to "lock on" the stamina bar did actually jump aswell. It didnt in all, but in some it did. This makes it more than possible to be a Twitch problem and should be concidered. He also "twitching" while running in some clips. It has to be concidered in situations like this. If you dont see it live irl. You can not accuse someone if there is a chance something else is of reason. Though, do I belive hes cheating? Yes. But is there a chance he isnt? Yes there is.

Yeah and he also probably doesn't want to get sued for slander / defamation of character. Streamers must be as neutral as possible because everybody has eyes on them

Sussy? Try confirmed

You're certain he's showing all his monitors on his cam? Super easy to have another that's not included.

he claims 9k hours on his main, but doesnt know where 314 is 🤣

@@chrisweird1566 is it that far fetched? my mate with 2000 hours only knows where 301 and sani room is lol

check him pc@@adambassuni6084

@@adambassuni6084 game launched 7 years ago,if he started day 1 your friends played an average of an hour a day compared to this guy claiming to be a tarkov vet. So yeah still seems pretty far fetched

He has Kappa on 2 accounts but doesn't know where 214 or 314 is.. Cmon bruh

He is dumb cheater, knows that his setup was called "dma something" so he panicked after seeing it in devices, even though it's on most systems by default :DD

how old is he? dumb people do exist, people who incriminate themselves bc of low self-esteem or sheer dumbness. but it adds as an argument when you see the other clips. you cant use it as a proof but you can use it to give you a hint to look more into the other clips

@@ReuterL The clown actually claims to be an USAF serviceman. To top off all the lies he's spewed, who in active service has time to stream tarkov 11 hours a day?

@@ReuterL To add to the argument (though it may be written off to "preference"), he is using Windows 10 not 11. DMA devices are harder to use on Windows 11 because of TPM and other security features, so cheaters usually stick to Windows 10.

@@ReuterL yeah idiots panic and incriminate themselves all the time. he couldve easily thought that "oh dma looks sus they are going to think im cheating" and deleted it which in turn makes you look more guilty. i think hes cheating but that scenario isnt that damning. hes just dumb,

Every single "competitive" rust streamer plays like that.

XD @@gdgd5194

I seen a clip of him doing a wide sweep of his setup with the webcam showing no other monitors but interestingly the webcam/webcam holder itself had a shadow like it is a laptop or tablet, so that may be the screen we are not supposed to see

Toast said his head cam is mounted on a oculus… an oculus …. That can receive a video feed… that we don’t see

Yeah it's obvious. If he was legit it would be a full on camera behind him to see EVERYTHING. The fact he doesn't show his mouse either is sus, because it would help to detect if he is using aim cheats for tracking.

guy is sus af but those snaps are not 100 % proof of anything, if you think that you are naive. an aimbot snapping to someone will not make the stamina bar snap with it, which was the case, it looks like a snap because there is missing frames, if you sweep your mouse smoothly 180 and cut from first to last frame it will look like a snap but it really is not the interchange clip on the other hand is very weird and the only thing in this whole video that resembles some kind of proof

i mean, i dont wanna be that guy but willerz has some INSANELY accurate flicks and dude is 200% not cheating

He's playing tarkov for 12-14 hours a day on stream, do you really think he's actively in the military ? He's a perpetual liar

​@@mikeholm4455 I was thinking about that stamina bar lag. Could that be from an external program taking priority for a brief moment like if it was an aimbot being brought online, so to speak? It does seem sus that it only occurs right at that moment he snaps to someone. I just know I get occasional micro stutters like that if someone messages me on steam/discord for the first time that day as I guess the program opens in the background

He's NG at best. But likely lying. @@pehztv

he wasnt being neutral, being nuetral is to suspect that type of gameplay with no bias, because its unnatural, Summit was giving the benefit of the doubt of why it may NOT have been cheating, he was basically playing a lawyer for a serial killer.

@@KronStaro On top of what is already a dumb opinion and a dumb comparison, are you suggesting that serial killers don't deserve lawyers?

@@None-lx8kj Personal opinion here, If they are caught red handed with legitimate evidence (ie Like the two "gangsters" at the Super Bowl parade) then no. No Lawyers, just a meeting between Judges to determine the severity of the punishment. Any shadow of a doubt, even a hair and it goes to court properly. I feel countries waste WAY too much money on cases where their is no shadow of a doubt.

same

same ryzen cpu too

i checked mine, true i have that too. And i know about DMA's but never actually checked my system.

@_drol this isn't about the fact that these dma cards exist it's about the fact that he disconnected his dma card before showing whats on it and pretending it was never there. Thats not just sus, it's straight up a nail in the coffin.

@@the_bear2_072 true. How fast was that? Day after? In a heartbeat?

Lol, they will donate even more. No one cares if favorite streamer cheats or not - they watch his godly skills and wish they could do same :)

I feel like he was trying not to cause a witch-hunt when the dude appeared in chat. Would look very bad on Summit even if the dude is cheating

Yeah I think he’s afraid cause his audience size to get people to target him so playing devils advocate you know.

lol. Summit accuses people of cheating on any random kill, but when he has visual evidence hes like naaah

Bro, summit can litterly make his life miserable by saying the wrong stuff. And another streamer is more accessible than some random dude that bought multiple accounts. People can go full hamshit on this guy.

Nah, chat will think someone is cheating jsut based on a single snap. you'd be suprised how many people look like they are cheating when they aren't. not saying that this guy isn't cheating but you should be careful when making accusations.

Every single "competitive" rust streamer plays the same.

His explanation on the 3rd guy was he meant to say, "Oh they're heading inside" but changed it to "Oh there's a 3rd" midsentence. Somehow his mouth malfunctioned. Then he deletes a random program in task manager that cheaters use because he's "stressed", never looks towards Power to check for players and stands motionless for an ungodly amount of time at the bottom of the high traffic stairs without looking anywhere but straight ahead, maintains a 25 KD ratio and has a cheat ban from BSG under his belt. But we're supposed to give him the benefit of the doubt about cheating now? This is logic that only his Mommy would accept.

@@gdgd5194 Not even remotely.

@@noticer3721 Blind fanboi detected

That pretty much sums up streamers. Especially rust. Most of their streamers are blatantly cheating but since the audience are let's say, not the brightest part of the Internet, they do exactly what you described.

@@gdgd5194 yep, and if you say what we are saying right now, they go ape shit to defend their streamer

"but why make up defenses when the person is clearly cheating." the reason he is doing this is that you aren't always 100% sure the person is cheating until proven with a LOT of evidence. Just a couple of sus clips is not enough to confidently say he is cheating. It could be the case that he did indeed see the feet and then put crosshair on the head level and if people were to jump super hard on one clip like that someone could get accused of cheating when they aren't (which is really bad for your rep). Obviously, this guy is cheating because of all the evidence but you should always view the situation from both sides instead of just assuming it's cheating right away

@swordyshield what you said is fair enough, but there is no need to defend any further from the first clip, if you can't tell the guy was cheating from the first clip, then you should not be playing games, let alone being a former pro/comp player like summit is.

He's just trying to prevent getting sh*t from twitch. he wouldn't be the first or last streamer to get punished for the actions of his subscribers. People are gonna do whatever they wanna do anyway, he's just trying to make sure people don't point fingers at him for riling up his chat to harass a cheater. Clown.

if thats what you took from all of this, you need to read a book or something

its because they are both streamers and he must protecc his fellow streamers... its a very wierd culture . the streamers ONLY cared when it affected them an example was the streamer item challenge. then EVERYONE cared that he was cheating making a big fuzz about it, now if you tell em hes still cheating in tarkov they are just like yeah, whatever dude

or maybe summit doesn't just wanna hate brigade people because it's against ToS? yes toast is cheating but there is literally no reason for summit to be the executioner, twitch and bsg need to handle him themselves. @@inportrace

It's just because it's difficult to prove. Same as police - they can literally do nothing in 99% of conflicts because evidence has to be of insane quality. Look at rust streamers, there are millionaires who built their audience of dummies using blatant cheats.

Bro you a grown man 😂😂

@@tonilazuto3228 so is that cheater

@@tonilazuto3228 I''d do worse to him irl.

@tonilazuto3228 cheaters deserve all the hate they get and more.