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Sumo: Judo's missing link 相撲 柔道 

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@rubenrelvamoniz
@rubenrelvamoniz 3 года назад
Sumo for Mixed Martial Arts: Winning Clinches, Takedowns, and Tactics a Book by Andrew Zerling changed my mind on sumo wrestling and its depth as a martial art
@oldlifter530
@oldlifter530 3 года назад
Thank you
@cancontrl
@cancontrl 3 года назад
You ever watch the old UFCs and Pride fights?
@oldlifter530
@oldlifter530 3 года назад
@@cancontrl own some original UFC fights dvds
@lj3287
@lj3287 3 года назад
Thanks for the book info!
@cancontrl
@cancontrl 3 года назад
@@oldlifter530 just mentioning because the pro sumo fighters did not fair so well in mma. Mostly a spectacle. Not saying they cant now be contenders, though
@fernandohsantos
@fernandohsantos 2 года назад
In my youth, when I practiced Judo, often our sensei would put up a Sumo training for us, just taking off the Wagi. This was used to strenghten balance and base. In Brazil, within the Japanese descendency colonies, it used to be very common to train Judo and Sumo, or Karate also.
@aluisiofsjr
@aluisiofsjr 3 года назад
The sumo fighters of the past were way slimmer.
@lancemannly
@lancemannly 3 года назад
Even sumo wrestlers 60 years ago were way slimmer. The trend of getting fatter and fatter has been a progressive one over the last half century and its unfortunate. I mean sumo wrestlers have on average a 10 year shorter lifespan than the general Japanese population. That's messed up
@benjaminmckay2220
@benjaminmckay2220 3 года назад
ther are still some slimer ones like Wakatakakage ,Wakamotoharu ore Enho
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 3 года назад
@@benjaminmckay2220 yeah
@colemanstarr5404
@colemanstarr5404 3 года назад
Chadi did an earlier video about that
@Ongyokage6389
@Ongyokage6389 3 года назад
Sumo is so dope! One of my favorite throws is Yagura Nage. Its so satisfying when done properly.
@-Thunder-Warrior-
@-Thunder-Warrior- 3 года назад
Ties nicely into your recent Mongolian Wrestling videos too. Lots of Mongolian's getting into Sumo and doing very well!
@CJ-uf6xl
@CJ-uf6xl 3 года назад
Hi Chadi. Brilliant video! I see a lot of Tomiki Aikido in there as well, I have trained a little Sumo in a self defense class surprisingly enough. The cross over with Ju Jitsu/Judo and Aikido runs right through it, as you mentioned "a missing link" it's a shame that a lot of folks just think it's two rather large gentleman pushing each other. I wholeheartedly agree with you, if you get the chance to train with someone who has had experience in Sumo go for it! It's an eye opener for sure! As ever Chadi thank you.
@TheCCBoi
@TheCCBoi 3 года назад
Thye have a cheap sumo training camp in Southern California. If you’re that way, check them out.
@alLEDP
@alLEDP 3 года назад
Didn't Shohei Ono and Lyoto Machida do Sumo somewhen (for a extended period of time) in their career? Alone from those examples one can see that their is ALOT to learn from this ancient art.
@MiSiOtH
@MiSiOtH 3 года назад
He was. There is a documentry about how he was preparing for a no weight category tournament in Japan.
@MrKahunadog
@MrKahunadog 3 года назад
I wonder if he was still hitting people with osoto gari/gake?
@bruceparker6142
@bruceparker6142 3 года назад
After watching sumo technique videos I realized what people refer to as no gi judo might actually be sumo.
@jaythompson4200
@jaythompson4200 3 года назад
We've always had no gi judo at our club. I then got the sumo for mma book and had the exact same thought.
@Soaring_Hawk
@Soaring_Hawk 3 года назад
Beautiful. I love watching sumo
@QuantumPyrite_88.9
@QuantumPyrite_88.9 3 года назад
Awesome as always Mr. Chadi . Always Liked & *SHARED* . Thanks again .
@MrKahunadog
@MrKahunadog 3 года назад
Thank you Chadi, nice video discussing Sumo. Rules and scoring make combat sports repeatable, while they also build certain types of strategies lending to certain tactics(techniques). What I like about Sumo is you score if anything of your opponent touches the mat(deck) aside from his feet. As opposed to Judo which the over arching goal is ippon(both shoulders hitting with speed, power, technique). The sumo rules give a more wrestling mentality as you look to grind away vs Judo the perfect throw is ideal. Both are beneficial yet bring out different elements in practitioners. Imo ability to play different sports develops different archetypes lending to versatility. Another aspect I appreciate is scoring if your opponent goes out of bounds. This is another useful sckill - ring cutting, wall playing. Both of these skills are useful in Judo, grappling sports and self defense.
@Chadi
@Chadi 3 года назад
Thank you for this insight
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 года назад
I think Sumo is very impressive. These guys are for real. And the old black & white video holds up to modern scrutiny (unlike some kendo films you posted earlier). But I fail to see what you are proposing. Do you think that the IJF should lobby the IOC to accept Sumo as a no-gi judo version? I don't think that would be the right approach. I think Judo needs a freestyle division with the gi.
@Chadi
@Chadi 3 года назад
I guess what I'm trying to say is, in terms of a complete stand up grappler, sumo is a great addition to a judoka, a new fighting range, clinching (no gi stand up judo in a sense), and the shoves and palm strikes can be great for self defense not so much concerned with IOC
@henrikg1388
@henrikg1388 3 года назад
@@Chadi Actually, in my first Judo club, we used to do Sumo randori about 2-4 times per semester. We took off the gi jacket and set up square areas. However, it was almost never a clinch to do a Judo style throw. It was pushing power and foot sweeps, so the main focus was improving balance. Maybe it was a tradition, now gone, that had lost it's original purpose. But I see no reason why dojos couldn't do so still today.
@Chadi
@Chadi 3 года назад
@@henrikg1388 I agree
@fredazcrate4362
@fredazcrate4362 3 года назад
💯👌 awesome my ladd.
@Saitoshiba
@Saitoshiba 3 года назад
Glad you made another video about sumo. I started practicing sumo when I realized that best way to train my balance for judo is with sumo. Sprained my ankle because of bad posture during practice, so I found that with sumo, I would decrease my chance of that happening by a lot. The first day that I went to sumo practice, they laughed about my posture because I was all wrong. Mostly because in judo, you are not stressing over someone pushing you outside of an area, you just don't want to get thrown. So that changes a lot. The amount of leg strength and balance that you need to not be pushed or touch the ground is phenomenal. I think judo is becoming more of a watered down version of grappling with the new rule that you can't grab below the belt. Also, most judo throws that peoppe use are all out sacrificial throws. Its beautiful and has good form, but in a self defense situation, if you can throw someone and be standing up, it's the best scenario for you. I find it awesome when a sumo wrestlers throw somebody out of the ring or on the ground and he is standing up. That is the most optimal scenario for you to either deal with another attacker or run away. Now if you throw yourself with the person and get entangled, you either will get kicked or stabbed.
@Chadi
@Chadi 3 года назад
Yes Sumo has a lot to add for a judoka
@wsl3119
@wsl3119 3 года назад
Made my kids do sumo against each other last week 😂 it’s hilarious but it’s also very brutal with no weight class. The dedication for Sumo wrestlers is insane,
@anonymousshawn9996
@anonymousshawn9996 3 года назад
Just type Sumo on Google then click the Wikipedia for it and go under the “history” tab to find all the historical references to how it used to be and how it got watered down into a “competitive sport of culture.” Don’t forget to check out all the sources and references.
@larryboone6276
@larryboone6276 3 года назад
If you ever visit America and do a seminar please post the info. You are one great teacher Sensei Sifu Sa bon nim Just trying to express how I truly appreciate your content. So Peaceful.
@Chadi
@Chadi 3 года назад
Thank you Larry, I still have a lot to learn in order to qualify to be a professor, I'm very flattered, hope I can be a good teacher in the future.
@kaz5150619
@kaz5150619 3 года назад
Shoutout my bro from another mo Amita and Amita's Sumo Channel
@rokasbalciunas8058
@rokasbalciunas8058 3 года назад
That last sumo guy amazed me! :D proves that wheight is not everything
@silafuyang8675
@silafuyang8675 3 года назад
He is an ex-judoka. Takanoyama the Czech.
@yogsothoth-tz2bu
@yogsothoth-tz2bu 3 года назад
Vintage sumo looks pretty bad ass.
@marcussaflund3571
@marcussaflund3571 3 года назад
I always thought about sumo as the aggressive and true way to gain inside control.
@Projectdarksource
@Projectdarksource 3 года назад
I personally like and respect the maewashi and the men who wear them. I did participate in amateur sumo here in Canada. Its a shame there's no federation or proper club, however once a year before covid hit. there was a Japanese festival here where people could participate.
@shadowfighter6445
@shadowfighter6445 3 года назад
Sumo wrestlers are awesome, thank you for sharing.
@jephilologist
@jephilologist 3 года назад
That big boi body is optimized for the sport. That's how much metachasers people are.
@David-wq3dq
@David-wq3dq 3 года назад
sumo is the best standing grappling system period
@doritodip8410
@doritodip8410 3 года назад
I think sumo is so underrated
@noelfrancisnunez5729
@noelfrancisnunez5729 3 года назад
Sumo is a great sport and martial art it has open handstikes just like in somenof bas ruttens fights
@Lift_these
@Lift_these 3 года назад
Who is the smaller guy in the sumo match. I would like to look him up for his conditioning
@廖登平
@廖登平 3 года назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takanoyama_Shuntar%C5%8D
@SnoopMenuceGraduatedHighschool
@SnoopMenuceGraduatedHighschool 2 года назад
Sumo does work for self defense street mix it with judo
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 3 года назад
Sumo striking is no joke, just look up sumo knock out and you can see the thing sumo brings to conpetition that judo, bjj and other grapplings usually dont have
@gingercore69
@gingercore69 3 года назад
Also, they do have head movement similar to boxing when it comes to striking
@johnelliott9823
@johnelliott9823 3 года назад
definitely an underrated style of wrestling, your videos corroborate Donn Draeger's contention that "combat Sumo" was the precursor to yawara/jujutsu Come next check I'll paetreon you
@Chadi
@Chadi 3 года назад
Thank you John
@nathaniellococo2888
@nathaniellococo2888 3 года назад
I've always loved sumo wrestling
@basilistsakalos9643
@basilistsakalos9643 3 года назад
You sir, have nailed the essence of Japanese Bujutsu/Budo. Historically Sumo is the indigenous grappling art, it 's the basis. Then in the Warring States era there is Yoroi Kumiuchi, grappling with armor and armed. It developed to the generic term of Taijutsu. Which developed to Yawara/Jujutsu. Which branched to the different Jujutsu ryuha. Which a combination of them created Kodokan Judo, and eventually Aikido. Atemi waza are an integral part of the old method to set up the nage waza. Weapons were also an integral part of Taijutsu. Armor was an integral part of Yoroi Kumiuchi. Aikido might be considered as advanced pinciples of swordmanship applied in movement of already advanced grappling practitioners. All these arts are interconnected. Sumo is the base of all.
@RenegadeRanga
@RenegadeRanga 3 года назад
This was fascinating mate. Definitely a different way to look at sumo.
@kaz5150619
@kaz5150619 3 года назад
Lonestar and Dark Circle Sumo USA Sumo US Sumo Federation and the International Sumo Federation all offer cool shit on RU-vid
@fernandohsantos
@fernandohsantos 2 года назад
There is a kind of international Sumo federation, with competition, in which players fight using a collant and the Mawashi. Just an Obi would not provide enough anchor for the pulling.
@kaz5150619
@kaz5150619 3 года назад
I consider an underutilized form of training their keiko drills are intense and really practical
@oldlifter530
@oldlifter530 3 года назад
Am I wrong? I'm sure sumo use strikes head butts shoulders and palm strikes
@SnoopMenuceGraduatedHighschool
@SnoopMenuceGraduatedHighschool 2 года назад
Sumo and Judo good combo
@marcussaflund3571
@marcussaflund3571 3 года назад
Love the sumo inclusion!
@jadeplanet
@jadeplanet 3 месяца назад
03:45, the weirding way.
@esejose6748
@esejose6748 3 года назад
CHANKONABE!!!
@Saitoshiba
@Saitoshiba 3 года назад
Another thing to add. 6:51 I watched this match a bunch of time and am always amazed of how quick and how technical he managed to dodge to behind the other one and throw him. That's why I love sumo. So simple, but also so magnificent and technical
@larryboone6276
@larryboone6276 3 года назад
Imagine if you lived in a round house and had to defend it! The least you do is push the Trespasser out .
@doritodip8410
@doritodip8410 3 года назад
Is the under over grip classed as a bear hug? if so it's a bit weird as it's a 50 50 position
@RODRIGAOBARRETO
@RODRIGAOBARRETO 3 года назад
Great point of view.
@StarkRaveness
@StarkRaveness 3 года назад
Was the last guy European? Amazing fights in the ring, so much going on - thanks for sharing.
@colemanstarr5404
@colemanstarr5404 3 года назад
He's Czech. I don't remember his real name. He was one of the few relative lightweights to do well in elite sumo. He retired a few years ago.
@ericdietz1795
@ericdietz1795 3 года назад
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takanoyama_Shuntar%C5%8D
@StarkRaveness
@StarkRaveness 3 года назад
Hat off to this guy, unbelievable skill and bravery to take on what’s traditionally a Japanese only sport and cleanup the competition 👊🏼
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