Thanks, Jon, Roger and everyone. I enjoyed this conversation! Leslie’s comments about our capacity for evil being just as great as the greatest murderers in history reminded me of the passage from Chapter 31 of the text: ‘Learn this, and learn it well, for it is here delay of happiness is shortened by a span of time you cannot realize. You never hate your brother for his sins, but only for your own. Whatever form his sins appear to take, it but obscures the fact that you believe them to be yours, and therefore meriting a “just” attack.’ (T-31.III.1:4-6) Thanks again! ✨🙏🏼✨