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Sunlight is way older than you think - Sten Odenwald 

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It takes light a zippy 8 minutes to reach Earth from the surface of the Sun. But how long does it take that same light to travel from the Sun’s core to its surface? Oddly enough, the answer is many thousands of years. Sten Odenwald explains why by illustrating the random walk problem.
Lesson by Sten Odenwald, animation by TOTEM Studio.

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@eddieking2976
@eddieking2976 9 лет назад
This science stuff warms my inner core.
@Patrick-cy2zh
@Patrick-cy2zh 7 лет назад
Eddie King lol
@J.5.M.
@J.5.M. 3 года назад
Core workout? 😉
@zac8471
@zac8471 3 года назад
Science joke
@Wetnapkin69
@Wetnapkin69 2 года назад
Beer warms my inner core, lol
@Luisa-xr2jf
@Luisa-xr2jf 2 года назад
Yes
@BestFitSquareChannel
@BestFitSquareChannel 9 лет назад
superb… crisp, concise, beautifully illustrated, easy to absorb… thank you… keep up your important work…
@jumbochamploon2591
@jumbochamploon2591 9 лет назад
Best Fit Square Channel there was just one *probelm* with it
@thebeast5215
@thebeast5215 2 года назад
@@GriuGriu64 are you an astrophysicist? Please bless me with your infinite knowledge
@Zhoshyn
@Zhoshyn 6 лет назад
Ô Great Photons, your travel was long and full of obstacles ... but last you have reached my eyes. They welcome you as old friends and accept the gifts you gathered from your long and perilous journey.
@Dptl
@Dptl 4 года назад
@David Z - well said
@cutiebunnyamber3447
@cutiebunnyamber3447 2 года назад
fuckin poetry.
@gf4453
@gf4453 Год назад
Beautifully said.
@FengkieJunis-97
@FengkieJunis-97 9 лет назад
This is one the best Ted-Ed video I'd ever watched. So compact yet so much information.
@broncos435
@broncos435 2 года назад
just like a photon 😳
@krexite250
@krexite250 4 года назад
When you learn more about science from RU-vid than from school.
@riasharma3927
@riasharma3927 4 года назад
Change your school then.
@udayjadhav4134
@udayjadhav4134 4 года назад
Ok boomer
@bukucinho
@bukucinho 4 года назад
Krexite Thats cause they dont teach this stuff bro
@CatatonicImperfect
@CatatonicImperfect 4 года назад
that's because these clips are just interesting factoids, while school will try to give you a deep and comprehensive understanding of a subject matter.
@sirk603
@sirk603 4 года назад
Julian bru they don’t do that.
@lokynokey4822
@lokynokey4822 9 лет назад
Now that's what we want from TED-Ed.
@user-ve7ji4ke6b
@user-ve7ji4ke6b 3 года назад
ohgcg dfgae!dda fsf
@pedroheck3667
@pedroheck3667 9 лет назад
The sound and visual effects were awesome!
@glory6998
@glory6998 5 лет назад
Sometimes i think my life is full of struggles bt watching universe fastest thing struggling for 170000 yrs ......makes me think that my life is so much easy....💙 thank u for that amazing video
@jimmyhsp
@jimmyhsp 4 года назад
to us, it spent ~170k years. to light, everything occurs instantly within an infinitely small amount of time.
@jonitalia6748
@jonitalia6748 4 года назад
I came, thanks.
@AngelLPena
@AngelLPena 3 года назад
@@jonitalia6748 Pause
@alanhatfield8643
@alanhatfield8643 9 лет назад
Great stuff. If I wasn't retired, I'd use it in class tomorrow. Still follow all things SpaceMath.
@MsCybervamp
@MsCybervamp 5 лет назад
Since this is your area and my math skills are so poor, can you explain to me why that equation regarding the steps it takes to get a km away from the house works? They said you step a meter every time and that you take a million steps. How is that putting you just a km away? Do they mean because it’s a random direction each time it is taking you off course from the destination of a km? And are they saying that the goal is a straight line km from the door, and that is why (because of the random altered steps) it takes you that long to get there?
@EmbeddedWithin
@EmbeddedWithin 2 года назад
Hi
@EmbeddedWithin
@EmbeddedWithin 2 года назад
@@MsCybervamp hi
@mrararatovich
@mrararatovich 2 года назад
@@MsCybervamp I'm sure it's one km away in any direction
@rickrose5377
@rickrose5377 6 лет назад
We had to invent clothes while waiting for those damned photons to reach us.
@jinxy72able
@jinxy72able 6 лет назад
Great video! Though the one problem with it is it says the light bounces around. Actually it is reabsorbed and re emitted, but the effect of it being reabsorbed and re emitted is similar to it bouncing around, so I understand them using bouncing around as an analogy to explain the photons journey. It's just easier to explain it in those terms.
@7ANKOUCH
@7ANKOUCH 3 года назад
Idk about you guys but each time i hear their intro and outro i get goosebumps and i LOVE IT
@umamaraza9381
@umamaraza9381 9 лет назад
Clean explanation + great animation= superb video..thanks for this video.
@alexandravxo
@alexandravxo 9 лет назад
This was really fascinating!
@thepillar_2864
@thepillar_2864 6 лет назад
Seeing the end of the video, made me realize my whole entire existence. I'm scared and worried.
@alexb1972
@alexb1972 3 года назад
Brilliant video - very informative - thank you!
@mesachen
@mesachen 4 года назад
Love this video!
@ajtronic
@ajtronic 9 лет назад
Amazing.
@sudarshanbadoni6643
@sudarshanbadoni6643 3 года назад
Thanks , great voice, great expression, great maths and a great scientific modal expressed in shortest time, great video overall. Thanks again.
@Ykhraam
@Ykhraam 9 лет назад
Fascinating
@fun1k
@fun1k 9 лет назад
Very informative, thank you.
@hugo2871
@hugo2871 9 лет назад
This was a very interesting episode
@omarab.soliman4963
@omarab.soliman4963 6 лет назад
Amazing video! Please keep up creating this content!
@welltech4792
@welltech4792 2 года назад
thanks for sharing
@auumedone
@auumedone 3 года назад
Muchas gracias TED-ed para tus videos educationales. Nos necesitamos esos para aprender rapido.
@Azumiyoko93
@Azumiyoko93 9 лет назад
very informative and super impressive with the information organisation especially love the convey method that details go into more details
@talzO9
@talzO9 9 лет назад
That was really interesting and the animations were great! :D
@shadowsfromolliesgraveyard6577
How much of the sun's light is made in the core? The surface is plenty hot enough to produce a lot of light on its own.
@michagrill9432
@michagrill9432 5 лет назад
But the surface is by far not dense enough
@donnikolaus5869
@donnikolaus5869 5 лет назад
The surface isn't dense or hot enough for nuclear fusion. The heat in the outer layer comes from the radiation of the inner core (and a bit by friction). So, most of all light comes directly or indirectly from the core.
@SergioBobillierC
@SergioBobillierC 4 года назад
@Kieron is right, not every photon emitted by the sun comes from nuclear fusion, the plasma on the surface of the sun is certainly hot enough to emit visible light (and perhaps even more energetic waves). So its incorrect to say that all the light coming from the sun is ~170k years old.
@AjayJain-ef2mz
@AjayJain-ef2mz 4 года назад
Hey! What happens to wavelengh or frequency of light as it comes out of the core? I mean does the wavelenght/frequency increase or decrease? And how does it start intially? Thnx.
@nataliegutierrez2458
@nataliegutierrez2458 3 года назад
Ngl this is making me appreciate my days better.
@tomasbeno4213
@tomasbeno4213 2 года назад
PERFECT !! :) thank you
@jaydeeeep
@jaydeeeep 4 года назад
Sounds was dope.
@user-uu7sk8bz5l
@user-uu7sk8bz5l 2 года назад
Wonderful
@normalkettle
@normalkettle 5 лет назад
The 3D part looks adorable.
@aimalisapro123
@aimalisapro123 5 лет назад
I’m awed right now
@wengsbacay
@wengsbacay 5 лет назад
You lost me before the first minute but I finished the video because of the very good voice, sound and illustration. ❤️
@yogeshhm7165
@yogeshhm7165 4 года назад
It was neat a explanation, not so difficult to understand.
@pambennett8967
@pambennett8967 7 лет назад
The core is a doorway and the sun isabentuty holding it open. The light is conscious and builds abridge to reach us .. I sense this
@joterodrigo
@joterodrigo 6 лет назад
Amazing
@AshutoshGuptaiitb
@AshutoshGuptaiitb 5 лет назад
mindblowing
@naso724
@naso724 5 лет назад
Mind bending
@devins7457
@devins7457 9 лет назад
This idea has been around for soooo long. I think it was around 2005 when this was announced. 10 years late TED -tisk-
@cncrim1
@cncrim1 5 лет назад
Knowledge is power
@yoyoyoman11
@yoyoyoman11 9 лет назад
Nice!
@greenageguy
@greenageguy 9 лет назад
And I think to myself... What a wonderful day.
@magicandmagik
@magicandmagik 9 лет назад
fascinating...
@bobologic6849
@bobologic6849 4 года назад
170,000 years pinballing its way towards the Sun's surface, all while still moving at the speed of light...that's awesome
@anandu6859
@anandu6859 2 года назад
The speed of light in a medium is constant in every frame of reference. So it doesn't changes.
@billsomen7953
@billsomen7953 4 года назад
That's a real example that the results people show up today come from years of hard work
@saintherip8624
@saintherip8624 4 года назад
I'm never going to see and feel the sunlight the same way again.
@HarisEka
@HarisEka 6 лет назад
How could they have formulas for everything?! 😮
@TroubledEar42
@TroubledEar42 9 лет назад
YOOOOO, this is dope dude
@sandeshhonmane1287
@sandeshhonmane1287 6 лет назад
What about the photons generated at the surface of the sun? They have to travel only the space between the sun and the earth, requiring only 8 minutes?
@BlackKevin808
@BlackKevin808 9 лет назад
Probelm?
@Misclickable
@Misclickable 9 лет назад
+Caligula138 They misspelled "Problem" as "Probelm".
@Misclickable
@Misclickable 9 лет назад
Kabitu1 Somebody asked why people were commenting "Probelm" and if they have missed something.
@AnstonMusic
@AnstonMusic 9 лет назад
1:18 to anyone who's wondering.
@TheFlightSimFreak
@TheFlightSimFreak 9 лет назад
Anston Music Oh... Well that's a Probelm!
@joseph-kim
@joseph-kim 8 лет назад
+Kevin Le They fixed it.
@vishalmishra3046
@vishalmishra3046 2 года назад
Protons are not like "mirrors" reflecting photons that you see 170,000 years later. The nucleons (protons and neutrons) in the sun are constantly absorbing existing photons and generating new photons usually of lower energy and therefore lower frequency. This difference in photon energy keeps the sun hot due to increased thermal vibrations of nucleons due to the energy absorbed. So technically what you "see" on earth are just 8 min (500 seconds) old new photons who have parents and ancestors that date back to ~100K years starting from the core of the sun.
@gregorycotter6461
@gregorycotter6461 4 года назад
I have a question. So light takes all that time to reach the surface of the sun and approximately 8 minutes to reach Earth. What would happen if the sun itself hypothetically cease to exist? We know that we'd have 8 minutes of sunlight to enjoy. But what about gravity? When would the Earth no longer feel the suns gravity? Do gravitational forces or lack thereof happen faster, slower or equal to light.
@dekippiesip
@dekippiesip 2 года назад
Exactly equal to the speed of light
@thepillar_2864
@thepillar_2864 6 лет назад
Who else thought of "Centipede" the arcade game, when they talked about the protons getting hit by photon??
@rektrakboi3127
@rektrakboi3127 4 года назад
Is it just me or do I really like the sound it makes when a proton gets hit
@majermike
@majermike 4 года назад
isn't the photon technically absorbed and then reemitted? also, don't electrons absorb photons and reemit them too?
@valrhonaar5486
@valrhonaar5486 3 года назад
I basked for a second to appreciate the existence of these tiny photons.... my heart.
@kamran.A
@kamran.A 4 года назад
Unless I'm mistaken... does this suggest that light emanates ONLY from the core of the sun!? I never thought of it that way... always thought it's a big and, more or less, uniform "ball of light" 🤔
@nelle5546
@nelle5546 7 лет назад
Thank you for the series of existential crisis.
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth
@MrFossil367ab45gfyth 2 года назад
WOW!
@manco9607
@manco9607 6 лет назад
imagine u get this kind of learning video in daily school instead of just looking at books when we are young
@ragbra
@ragbra 9 лет назад
How do you solve the random walk problem for heat-radiation in people?
@abduloooh2894
@abduloooh2894 5 лет назад
Messed up my mind!
@PAWNB3YOND
@PAWNB3YOND 2 года назад
Me: *Gets sunburn* Me: What took you so long?
@eivilcow33
@eivilcow33 9 лет назад
So..... What about the photons generated by the radiative emissivity of every single particle within the sun? I am pretty sure that not ALL of the light of the sun is generated by the fusion reaction's resultant photon emissions. As everyone knows, when you heat something up, it glows. So, when you have a star's worth of mater that is a minimum of 10,000 degrees; I think that is producing a large portion of the sun's light. So if a particle in the outer layers of the sun produces a photon, it wouldn't take that long....
@poulomisen4906
@poulomisen4906 4 года назад
good
@calebengelbrecht7812
@calebengelbrecht7812 4 года назад
This is something to think about.
@oicub2
@oicub2 9 лет назад
Sooooo, who was it that measured the distance between photons? I'm just kind of curious how they made such a measurement
@4thAct
@4thAct 5 лет назад
So theoretically there's a given amount of photons still ricocheing inside the sun from the day the sun first started shining and they could be still bouncing around in there till the sun dies or reach the surface and escape. Not only that but photons that were started at the beginning of the universe before our own sun that collided with our own sun and possibly got trapped from bumping into it while on a course towards wherever. That's pretty amazing and interesting at the same time
@dekippiesip
@dekippiesip 2 года назад
Yeah, because it's a random proces it takes 170.000 years on average. So there is some tiny chance a photon could be stuck in the sun for billions of years, and because of the extremely large number of photons, some actually are stuck for that long....
@aparnabhave3550
@aparnabhave3550 6 лет назад
I think that due to the intense heat, the surface of the sun has gone incandescent, so it glows
@AsratMengesha
@AsratMengesha 4 года назад
Sun light from the sun reaches us as it is now.
@badoocee1967
@badoocee1967 9 лет назад
Very Interesting...but I don't have Thousands of years to appreciate it...better learn quickly, no??
@sanskritijoshi3376
@sanskritijoshi3376 9 лет назад
wow
@TheChesster777
@TheChesster777 9 лет назад
ohh wow
@warlikelaughter6230
@warlikelaughter6230 5 лет назад
1:27 so many steps would it take before you would actually take 2 full strides? :-D
@mashelauma5027
@mashelauma5027 4 года назад
Thanks to science we have TEDEd.🙏🏾
@dannyfulkerson6512
@dannyfulkerson6512 Год назад
This description of the path of a photon seems to be from the point of view of an observer on Earth. However, and I welcome correction if I am wrong, according to Albert Einstein a traveler whose speed increases will have time slow down until reaching the speed of light (the speed of our photon), time will have stopped. So, from the point of view of the photon, it is created and instantly arrives at earth, with no passage of time.
@cutiebunnyamber3447
@cutiebunnyamber3447 2 года назад
speechless..
@jedyt7171
@jedyt7171 6 лет назад
0:23 / 4:36
@tunlinaung5668
@tunlinaung5668 5 лет назад
I think that the calculation of the first estimating has some mistake.. because the Sun's protons are evenly spread out,making the average distance between them about 1.0 x 10^-10 meters. To random walk the 690,000 kilometers from the core to the solar surface would then require 4.8 x 10^37 steps (Not- 3.9 x 10^37 steps), giving a total travel time of 500 billion years (Not- 400 billion years).
@davidgayle5567
@davidgayle5567 6 лет назад
Anybody got any change?
@MilitanT07
@MilitanT07 9 лет назад
So you're saying the sun we see in the morning is merely 170k years old image?!
@digsfossils
@digsfossils 9 лет назад
MilitanT07 The sun we see in the morning is about 8 minutes old which is the time for the light from the sun's surface to travel to earth. But the photons which make up the light were created about 170,000 years ago.
@dannyarmstrong2013
@dannyarmstrong2013 2 года назад
Yea, but it gets dark at night..
@teli6350
@teli6350 6 лет назад
Do you know why the ice ages existed? There was some traffic jam inside the Sun because the road maintenance workers forgot to increase the speed limit after their work was done. That made Earth not get it's daily Photon wage, and as such went on a temperature strike. The maintenance workers finally changed the speed limit back up again recently, but they wrote 511 km/h instead of 115 km/h, and now the earth is getting toasty.
@icanrememberthis
@icanrememberthis 9 лет назад
Neat! Great video, I sure hope it is accurate, otherwise I'm going to look like an even bigger jerk when I pop-quiz my, now, ignorant family & friends.
@johndoecro984
@johndoecro984 9 лет назад
Great episode. I wish I knew physics and math better. Also, remind me, how did we calculated Sun's mass?
@Liquafire
@Liquafire 9 лет назад
The Random Walk Probelm? Never heard of it... I have heard of the Random Walk Problem though... interesting stuff... just an FYI TED editors!
@511dydy
@511dydy 6 лет назад
What about time dilation? Does it have any effects?
@killerjg
@killerjg 5 лет назад
Yes, it was missed.
@99therohit
@99therohit 4 года назад
What about surface reactions?
@syeedahaseeba8576
@syeedahaseeba8576 Год назад
I'm literally watching this video 7 years after it has been posted 🤣
@samuelwaithera4661
@samuelwaithera4661 5 лет назад
it's even getting harder to understand this science
@robh6638
@robh6638 3 года назад
But how far into space does little travel after it passes by earth ? Would be older the further it traveled.
@Dantick09
@Dantick09 9 лет назад
the sun didnt start shining untill it was 170k years old?
@montymonty5040
@montymonty5040 9 лет назад
No
@ironcito1101
@ironcito1101 6 лет назад
The core can't be made first. If a star is smaller, its core is smaller. Otherwise, it's not the core, it's the whole. Anyway, star formation is complex, but the collapse of the gas and its contraction into a ball generates heat (and light), in the same way that Earth was a ball of molten rock when it first formed. The star doesn't instantly turn on like a light, either. It does go through a period of formation when its shine steadily increases.
@martinconcha5365
@martinconcha5365 6 лет назад
No, remember there are also photons created in the core.
@carltonblend
@carltonblend 6 лет назад
Not all light comes from the core, every particle expels fotons, so the outter layer don't have the same walk problem as the core
@MrTsquared88
@MrTsquared88 9 лет назад
Was the sun dark for the first 170,000 years of its life?
@chaoswebz
@chaoswebz 9 лет назад
MrTsquared88 good question
@Sekstant
@Sekstant 9 лет назад
MrTsquared88 Well... I think it wasn't. First thing is: When stars creating themself, they sends some light. Second: When our Sun born, there was already other stars, so light from those stars, was bouncing around Sun. Third... If I'm not mistaken, sun never wasn't dark, because there was always any chemical/physical reaction, and from those was always some light. And Sun at beginning wasn't that huge as it's now. But, who would listen to liar who had only 3 years of advanced physics?
@MrTsquared88
@MrTsquared88 9 лет назад
Kłamca the liar thing and the 3 years of advanced physics isn't what makes me not want to listen to you... it's the fact that you talk like a caveman. If english isn't your native language, then i take that insult back... But if it is your native language, then i mean it 3 times harsher than it comes across.
@Sekstant
@Sekstant 9 лет назад
MrTsquared88 Sadly, it's not my native language, and because of that, sometimes I have troubles with speak/write in english :/ I wish I'm not that lazy to get it better :C
@MrTsquared88
@MrTsquared88 9 лет назад
Kłamca no worries. more than understandable. you made a pretty good attempt. Keep working at it!
@VishanPamnani
@VishanPamnani 3 года назад
Guys u won't believe this co-incidence,if u have a slow internet connection,try getting buffering at 3:09 .......
@halloooo1duuuuu
@halloooo1duuuuu 6 лет назад
I don't understand the calculation... :/
@StanJan
@StanJan 3 года назад
Theory. You should start by saying, " one of the theorys..." and not sell any of this as "fact". TED is the best ! Thank you. Stan
@adamthornton7880
@adamthornton7880 9 лет назад
Are they the same photons, though?
@lifeinindia4694
@lifeinindia4694 4 года назад
I don't know how to process this information!! Does this mean that the sun we see is 170k years + 8 minutes old?
@climbamtn111
@climbamtn111 9 лет назад
So, how can I apply this to Plinko?
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