Super Conqueror Is Here! - Devastation First Impressions 

It's how they attempted to balance it I would assume.

Really weird, these super-ships in my head its if countries kept building big ships and there was no missiles or jets, so i presumed they will have very good reload and accuracy with modern stuff. Like radar guided shells and auto-loaders.

​​​​@@Zergling.Autoloaders are exponentially more complex to implement as calibre increases, the turret would've been way stretched to the point that having an extra guns/turrets/larger caliber or improving on existing loading systems would be far better in the end. The British did try that on the Lion-class BB project, the results weren't too ideal to say the least. For guided munitions, I'd assume even more protection in the shell would be needed for when the propellant charges are ignited to preserve electrical components. Said shell also has to redirect course using some steering system. I don't know how much it'll take to turn a 406"/+, I'd assume it's slightly plausible considering how long the shells would be in the air but take it with a bag of salt.

@@gangutbayern246 For the autoloader i was thinking that was better to have it even if you have to sacrifice a gun or caliber, since you reduce loading time (preferably), and reduce needed personal for the ship, at the same time you will not have people on the turret if something blows up, of course there still needs a way for people to go there to do repairs. And with more modern ammunition i dont think you need big rounds to do damage. For the guided shells, i mistakenly put 2 ideas in that comment, it should be that the ship has good ways to range distance and accurately shot, with modern fire control systems. And guided shells dont need to have explosives inside them, i was thinking more on the lines of solid shots, but from what you said ones that explodes could be viable too. I am really not knowledgeable on this stuff, just basic stuff if anything, i just had this imagination that super-ships should have more modern systems to increase their performance with less crew with no need to decrease firepower, (better shells and rate of fire).

@@maltemejlstrup4746 its how they balanced it for sure, its just a really lazy way of balancing cus it negates the whole point of having more guns. Like there is genuinely no ship in this game that benefits from having more guns than their tier 9-10 counterparts. so it renders the whole thing pointless if they nerf both reload and accuracy.

I mean the magic spell could’ve been a supercharged shell, those were a real thing for the 15 inch guns. Idk

Idk i think annapolis is one of the more balanced supers. Like yeah dm with an extra turret and it has a burst but you do more dpm with just regular firing mode so its kinda niche and only for situations where you gotta do alotta dmg in a blink

​​@@fluxthelycanroc9603ah, that F-key gimmick puts Annapolis firmly into T12. BB AP alpha for free on a cruiser is broken. A balanced Annapolis would have 32 mm central plating instead of 30 mm and no F-key gimmick. That's it. Same with Condé. That would make them T11 ships (like Clausewitz) rather than T12.

Gaius would be proud

More like a bigger conkek. Thunderer is on a different level of BS

SkyRaider means the Conqueror because he does not know how to spell it.

​@@HAWKSTA24yeah u seem real smart too

@@HAWKSTA24 thx I guess? I already knew how to spell it

the thing is worse than Conq, and I wish seeing it in battle for free 150k+ guaranteed damage

You're missing a couple of things regarding Patrie: Firstly, sure her speed boost is +15%...... Except they also nerfed the duration to 2 minutes instead of 3 like Republique. You go faster, but for only 30% of the battle when République can have its duration for almost 50% of it. That's not an upgrade, that's a sidegrade at best. That sigma reduction also impact more severly that +20% dpm over republique. She's also much, much less survivable than republique for 3 reasons: 1) the tier XI landscape is much more rough against 32mm plated ships because of Satsuma and Hannover. Now sure it's also a problem for Devastation, but you have to keep in mind that devastation at least has an icebreaker and an external belt to mitigate this. Republique doesnt. 2) She's huge and has the highest broadside in the game bar none. Devastation is smaller and harder to hit 3) Unlike République, Patrie doesnt have hidden 50mm plates inside her bow, which means that Patrie can get citadeled through the nose by 32mm overmatch extremely easily You are also forgetting something about devastation: The impact of Burst fire. It's ALWAYS better to starts more fires in a single salvo than over multiple salvoes. Because if you start 2-3 fires every 33 seconds, the ennemy will simply be unable to optimize the use of DCP and will loose much more hp than against a continuous fire setting capability. Looking at numbers alone certainly doesnt give the whole picture. Devastation looks very strong because unlike Patrie, her survivability doesnt suffer as much for those additionnal guns and the salvo increase scales extremely well with her fire setting capabilities.

I kept my KGV, best one for me.

KGV is very good when used properly, don’t sleep on the AP and don’t be scared to push in towards the latter half of games, words from someone who considers KGV one of their best ships

Getting superships is not worth the time

for you won sanity quit before you get sucked in

Some people just want to watch the world burn

Yeah, which means it’s a better brawler, and it actually gets access to the American accuracy mod

man, wait until you see her citadel lol. Maine's cit protection is god awful.

Well ofc its a soviet ship with pen than vermont and a pretty good hull so yeah it‘s a fuck you from WG to the playerbase

Of course, because St Vincent is completely broken

You're going to lose money on that. You'll need at a minimum 100k damage to break even.

smh everyone knows the best t11 bb is the t12 bb conde

No the Hannover is the best super BB, good guns, great armor, Great secondary. German super BB trumps all BB so far.

@@brunnerwarsavage4242 nah the Hannover is to situational. The satsuma fits the meda better being able to do massive damage while being at long range.

@@Max-prime1212 Maybe if it had 9 guns instead of six The Hannover with the bad ass secondary. And the armor is the best BB. I give the Satsuma third place for now. to it goes German, French, Japan, British, then USSR in super BBs

@@brunnerwarsavage4242 Hannover is garbage lol, it dies way too quickly

The British super battlecruiser will probably have 12 457mm guns, or even 9 508mm guns.

i agree

go back and look at how high he aimed... he predicted the turn our perfectly and it still misses. definitely an aiming/lock on bug

he aimed above the ship predicting the turn out

Because everyone knows that when you miss. It's an aiming bug.

Pay to win lol. You don’t get an automatic win cause you played this ship and you pay to ply since it cost a lot more to run than regular t10:ships.I don’t see many ss in games cuas Ethel cost too much to play. I have the credits to play them but I don’t cause of the cost.

Hannover has always had 32mm overmatch with its 19in guns.

To be fair he didn't play the ship very well. Pushed up in the first match which isn't really how you play conqueror then got focused and died.

true

Yep, randoms are nigh unplayable now.