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Looked like the bloke on the bike wasn't even trying. They did something similar in the UK. A British touring car against a British superbike . The bike destroyed the car. Saying that , the race cars over here are kicking out about 350 bhp but probably way half as much as that ozzie touring car . Also the track was more balanced for both car and bike . That track they were on looked more 4 wheel friendly than 2 wheel.

Right, both are amazing machines and superior in their own ways!

Fun video but a bit silly. He didn’t even drag his knee let alone elbow. That bike with slicks can handle a 62 degree lean angle. He was barely doing 45 deg. The only thing that would have a real chance against that bike with that rider on a race track would be an F1

@@johanballin6601 An F1??? A formula 1 car obliterates every car/bike on a circuit...

@@johanballin6601 Yeah he wasn’t really trying, they probably wanted to end the race close to even. I don’t think only a Formula 1 car could beat the bike though. Something else that makes heavy use of downforce would be enough.

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Meanwhile, the algorithm has some different plans.

See you in 5 years!

And i will probably watch it. 😎🏍💨👍

The algorithm is showing it now.

I would of thought the super bike would of destroyed the V8 supercar mustang,

If there would be at least some Better car than Ford, that bike would Never catch the car !!! ! !!!

Comparing just the times is actually a kinda good comparison if you're comparing the drivers not the vehicles

This track seems quite a good equalizer. On a twisty track with short straights like this one a car will likely have a better laptime due to being able to achieve higher corner speeds, but on a track with less turns and longer straights, a bike will will have a much bigger advantage and can use its acceleration to more effect. Modern superbikes are as quick as an F1 car up to a certain speed and max out at around 210mph.

It's quite interesting, and a bit funny, looking at a porsche 911 (one of those funny modern numbers) against the superbikes at Nuremburg Ring, but it's all really amateur bikers vs professional drivers, the car driver toyed with him but if they were pro bikers there'd be no contest

@@A_Pt_9298 yeah, amateur car drivers can at least have some confidence crashing into things in practice, but I'd be shitting myself if I tried to push my bike as hard as I can knowing if I mess up I'd at the very least tear off a huge patch of my skin

@@johnj3577 not even close... An F1 car does 0-300km/h in 10sec flat while a motoGP bike at 9sec. A superbike is around the 15sec mark while a road going superbike is around the 19sec mark. The only thing quicker than an F1car in a straight line, 0-top speed is a motoGP bike. Not including dragster builds of course.

@@DaveFinch435 You summarized it all. lol

Thank you

On a 6 minute video, it only helps a little. It seems the race is over way too fast, also.

@@phbhf k

Na i like this Sheila as well.

You a legend 🙌

@@daviddou1408 It's power to weight once moving, it has nothing to do with traction control or any other electronic aid. Having said that, you may be mocking the commentator and with good reason. Did he just refer to a Ducati as an Australian bike?!

He meant that it is an Australian Superbike championship bike.

All the car vs bike videos on youtube are staged and biased because they are promoting the cars. Bikes actually corner faster than they say on car shows. Bikes take a different line which allows for greater acceleration on the exit but a slightly slower mid corner speed. Look up the lap records for this track and the super bike is 1.5 seconds faster than the super car and it is a very short track. The lap records for Laguna Seca show that bikes are a lot faster than production cars. On big tracks the gap would be larger. Also this video compared super cars to super bikes. Moto GP bikes are much faster than Super Bikes and the riders are more talented.

@@jonathanm7948 all those tracks mentioned majority have more straights than turns. bikes make up SOOO much time in straights. to make it a fair comparison you'd need to look at sector records and corner speeda

@@jerseyboycustoms yes, supercars have a slightly higher apex speed (than super bikes but not motogp bikes) because bikes slow down a little so they can power slide at the apex and get full acceleration before the end of the turn. But it is only a very small amount slower like 0.5km/h slower but at the exit of corners bikes are up to 50km/h faster. Bikes begin accelerating hard at the apex whereas cars begin accelerating hard at the exit. That means cars are only a few km/h faster just before the apex for like half a second. On big turns bikes and cars have similar entry speeds. On tight corners bikes drift into the entry of the turn like a rally car meaning they have slower km/h but the drift results in a faster corner. For street legal cars and bikes the bikes are 10 seconds faster than the best sports cars around small tracks with less straights. I don't know what car u drive but whatever it is it is very slow compared to supercars but a street legal sports bike accelerates faster than a supercar and corners faster than any street legal car because bikes have 200 horsepower and weigh 200 kilograms whereas cars have 200 - 300 horsepower but weigh 1500 - 2000 kilograms. Car shows that say cars are faster than bikes are biased because they written to sell cars. Eg. One show said cars stop faster than bikes and used a car with electronics to automatically downshift and stop efficiently and for the bike they made him hit the front brakes in 4th gear without downshifting. Also, they say cars are faster because of apex speed without showing the harder acceleration of bikes immediately after the apex before reaching the end of the turn.

Well, superbikes are the equivalent of taking a race car and making it road legal. The only reason manufacturers can do it to a bike and not a car is because bikes are cheap. There are road legal race cars for the filthy rich, no MotoGP bike can touch. Overall cars are more expensive, gasp.

@@johncarl5505 True but on the track the car would win, I’d say on the road the bikes agility plus it’s smaller size allows it to take racing lines the car can’t plus ability to nip through gaps etc makes it safer to go very fast on the road ( ignoring speed limits and the safety aspects in this equation of course )

@@johncarl5505 It's the other way around mate. Superbikes are road bikes that are made into track bikes.

​​@@54356776 Yep, world SBK bikes are more equilivent to Rally Cars in terms of Homologation. They must be road legal bikes/cars that are sold to the public to be able to participate in racing.

Correcto! Ese coche al final tendrá 900cv y pesará 900 kilos es una moto de coche!!.

or he has ears? while braking in, i bet he could hear the car close behind him

Watch other vid like f1 vs superbike(topgear), and you'll see the finish on the line side by side aswell Inshort this sht r just for shows(scripted)

@@zeth8776 Ye I think you’re right

@@zeth8776 lol u can't ride f1 cars on road or can afford them either

If i remember correctly, if weight of object is more than other object, the light object is sure to be crush 🤣

True but he's a professional racer. He could control his car much better than most idiots on the road. Its still scary as hell though. I'm also certain the driver is holding back, trying not to accidentally kill the rider.

yeah that riders brave

DDFN 🤣

I think that’s why he ran that corner wide, the car was coming in hot and I think he saw that and was like eff that and moved out the way lol

And as a Mustang and BMW S1000RR owner I agree!!

Im wondering how much of the Mustang is stock opposed to the Ducati? (by "stock" i mean based on how it left the factory) Aren't the cars in V8 supercars built on a race chassis? Does the mustang race car use a Ford engine or is that a control unit too?

As a Honda and a Harley owner, I can't relate haha but as someone who has owned sport bikes and pure muscle, I love some raw power. 🤘🏻

@@uhtred7860 in this case it’s mostly a modified mustang. The chassis received the majority of it and the mustang will see enough mods to bump its power up another 100hp or so. I’d probably say the stang has around 550+hp … It’s speed is all suspension/chassis mods

@@uhtred7860 no common parts between the "mustang" and a mustang. It's a space frame race car covered with composite panels in the shape of a mustang. It's also running slicks. The bike is a hotted up road bike. Road chassis, replica fairing but all the stressed parts are factory. Same engine, but with a cam and exhaust. Aftermarket suspension, running road tyres. No lights and indicators. Not far off what you might see a very well heeled person ride on the street.

That's because it was Colin Bond, the best all round race driver Australia ever produced.

I think a bike would win every time it was on Mount Panorama though

On most tracks the NASCAR has no chance against a Moto GP bike…

Moto gp lap record for Phillip Island 127.899 v8 superslug 132.21..They are nowhere near eacother..if a supercar could shave a whole second off a lap time it would be insane...to be moto gp worthy it has to do almost 5

@@pullmyniblets whats a f1 time at phillip island?

@@rhett7716 not sure about Philip Island but without doubt would win easily F1 is on another level for example at Silverstone is 30 seconds faster, moto gp 1:59.4 and F1 1.27.3, superbikes is around 2:03 which is about the same as a gt3 race car round there

@@Mac-dx4rd - the cornering speed is much higher in formula 1.

@@sadiqsallah2064 I think he's tires were cold so he couldn't push too hard in that corner or he'd lose the front

@@thepsychicpeach8425 - he's means he is. The possessive is his.

until u drop it !!!

@@rhett7716 Still plenty of fun after you drop it. :P

@@daniellarusso8012 sad wallet noises

that's what I tell the ladies

@@rhett7716 That's equivalent to crashing a car. Both are fun in their own ways. It's subjective. I prefer bikes.

Fastest lap of the weekend has the Supercars at 1:04.9 and bikes at 1:05.1. Would you prefer if the Supercar had to brake to not run up the back of the bike in the hairpin?

@@realbudman Going into turn 4 Maxwell basically waited for Courtney, never even tried to stay on the racing line into the hairpin, stayed out wide leaving plenty of room for Courtney then didn't even try to repass till the straight. If Maxwell was on it Courtney wouldn't have been anywhere near him at the hairpin. If they are going to do these stupid speed comparisons then they need to be both flat knowing the risks.

@@Greg-sc7zk did u read what he said car had fastest time at this track !!!!!

@@rhett7716 it was approximately 1 second difference between the two in fastest laps. If you're trying to tell me that between the hairpin and the start finish straight the bike couldn't go harder than it did I suggest you hop on a bike and see how hard the accelerate. It probably didn't help Maxwell went wide and waited for Courtney and put himself in the grey area.

@@Greg-sc7zk the racing was over a weekend and a supercar recorded the faster time !!!!

Mustang's driver would see the tail of the bike from start till end !

And what would be the point of such race? So maybe STFU Glenn?

He won’t be seeing it by the end.

That is not a production bike

@@rohitdas7698 I agree it is not a production bike, but it could be argued that the modded mustang is vastly superior than the street model whereas bikes don’t benefit as much from money being thrown at them.

On the street, it's all about straight line acceleration, which bikes have a HUGE advantage given the power-to-weight ratio. On the track, depending on the layout, cornering speed matters a lot.

because on the road, you will never see a v8 supercar. This "race" was comparing an almost stock motorbike against a purpose built race car.

Because they're awesome

Just as boring as SuperBikes 😂

It's not my cup of tea, but what do you feel is a better alternative? or, why is it amazing in your view?

@@ljnouata9088 Shows you have Never ridden a superbike...

On a drag strip, of course. But that's the nature of 2 wheels Vs 4, the car can brake much later and harder into corners.

@@sadiqsallah2064 I think you need to look at the actual statistics. Your statement is not true.

@@johanballin6601 Someone has posted the best lap times at certain tracks in the comment section, seems like cars beat bikes by a couple of seconds, I was surprised as well.

@@johanballin6601 with bikes there is a maximum speed you can go around around a given radius corner, regardless how good a rider you are, its physics. The faster you go the more you must lean to turn, you can only lean a certain amount. With cars the limit is traction. With low center of gravity and wide sticky tyres a well setup car can pull much higher Gs and carry much more speed through a corner then a race bike with the best rider in the world.

@@UFO-047 and brake way, way later. And brake harder, too.

Lmao how much do you think the car cost??? Motogp 2021 bikes cost 1 million+ dollars

@@changes4339 That's not a MotoGP bike

@@changes4339 that's a world Superbike, in other words a bike anyone can buy with some mods. That mustang shares nothing with a stock mustang... maybe mirrors.

@@josipva ah my bad thought it was Ducati’s new motogp bike I was wrong. Still expensive 50k stock bike

@@changes4339 yeah it’s way more than 50 k they cost almost the same as far as how not stock they are

Neither were really pushing it. No sense in getting someone injured during an exhibition. It would be very interesting to watch them go at it for real. 😎🏍💨👍

@@Godric_71 only real way to test that would be looking at separate lap times tbh, the rider could have easily just stuck to his apex, and the car wouldn't have been over to overtake not cuz of skill, but rather just fear of hitting the rider.

@@sadiqsallah2064 It's curious why they wouldn't do that. Just to know as a fan, which is truly faster. 😎🏍💨👍

Yea because a h2 is way slower than a wsbk bike

@@joumiron funny joke🤣

@@marsel108 h2r is faster on a straight line yes, but nowhere near on a circuit

@@joumiron bro who told you that😂 it's all carbon fiber and spect out for the track and with some more mods and good driver it's unbeatable. It could easily beat that bike. It's a $65,000 bike, do your research before throwing stuff out like that.

@@marsel108 well a world superbike is the second fastest motorcycle on a track, first is a motogp bike, with like 2 second différence. Yes the h2 is more powerfull, but wich the supercharger its also quite heavy.

Top fuel car also has about 8000 more hp

Yea you want to make sure the kids have their own race track and super tricycles before attempting XD

I used to play a gp500 game, playing the role of old lady with trolley by parking my bike in the middle of a long straight to see how high the rider went when the npcs crashed into him lol

40kph difference at the end of the straight. The car has 10kph advantage on final corner exit and the bike overcomes it VERY quickly.

The bike also weighs more than 1000kg less than the car, and has the far superior power to weight ratio and a hell of a lot less drag.

All depends on the track

@@davothegreat9990 who would be quicker at bathurst ?

@@rhett7716 Mount Panorama circuit, bike easy. The two long straights would overwhelm the supercar.

The bike would have won by more. He made a mistake on one lap and still won.

@@larjkok1184 I was looking at the corner over and over where he ran wide and it almost looked intentional but it could have been legitimate

The car would have won handily in a three lap race. Remember, it was a standing start. The bike had a huge advantage. But, subsequent laps would have favored the car since beginning on the second lap, the car is up to speed.

@@larjkok1184 He didn't make a huge mistake on his lap, and by the end of lap one he lost all of his adventage that he had in corner 1 lap 1. By design a bike accelerates better and is faster on the straights but much slower in the corners. Maybe an oval track would be a fair fight, but a regular track with several corners will always favor the car. A bike simply cannot have the cornering speed of a car (talking about same level vehicles of course). It's without a doubt that cornering with a bike is way more fun, but talking strictly about the efficiency, cars win. For example, lap records from Circuit de Catalunya*: MotoGP 1:45.969 Formula Renault 2.0 1:43.555 LeMans GTE 1:45.529 Formula Renault is a development league for drivers before F3 or F2. LeMans GTE is a touring car championship. While MotoGP is the absolute pinnacle of motorcycle racing. And MotoGP times are in the league of them, not the absolute best of race cars. *Note: the previous Grand Prix layout that used to host F1 races between 2007-2020 and hosted two MotoGP races in 2016-2017, the current official records are different as neither uses that layout anymore.

@@sgtGiggsy How about Isle of Man lap record?

So does everyone, but unfortunately China is beating Europe UK and America on reliability. What an embarrassment.

@@PM-qi4mh china numba one

@@PM-qi4mh what Chinese bikes?

@@fattymcgee123 I guess you didn't know most Yamaha and Honda bikes are made in China.

Bathurst is too dangerous for bikes, not enough runoff on some corners.

They use to back in the day, on bikes that were more dangerous. Just ask old mate that had Forrest Elbow named after him

@@MrKdr500 super bikes dont do bathurst ??

The v8s are faster on this track based off lap times from during the races of both categories, but the difference is small. A big open track like Phillip Island and the bikes are much quicker. Would be interesting to compare Bathurst though. 2 long straights for the bikes to gain time, but they would lose so much time over the top of the mountain

@@mad082sss Yes I know this. As I said, the opening lap. From a standing start .

@@mad082sss not sure about a superbike at the island being faster someone else posted that an old falcon actually faster than r1 yami !

@@rhett7716 i just looked it up. MotoGP lap record is 1:28.10. V8 supercars is 1:30.99. Moto2 lap record is 1:32.6, so even they aren't far off the v8s. If you drop down to the superbike categories (which are just modified production bikes) then the records are 1:29 for the world superbikes and 1:31.8 for the Australian superbikes. So they are a touch slower, but they are still faster than the second tier v8 supercars category. The GT3 category cars are a few seconds faster than the bikes though, and faster than the v8s

@@mad082sss ok thanks for that👍

Add a "0" after 32K retail $$ for the bike setup

@@v8soarer1991 the bike that came 3rd was according to the commentators, "the dealer ran it in for 100 kms, the bike was delivered and race fairings put on". No way a superbike could cost 320K.

@@v8soarer1991 what? This superbike is near enough stock. It isn't a Moto GP bike

@@mikeynoclass8240 Ah ok motogp 4 million to buy a bike moto2 750,000 moto3 500,000 That was as of 2020 pricing

@@v8soarer1991 yeah, these bikes are nothing like that. They're production motorcycles that are set up to race, basically something you can purchase yourself from the showroom. A motogp motorcycle is a prototype designed for racing only, sort of like a Formula 1 car on two wheels.

Safety likely, wouldn't want the biker to push himself too hard and into the heavy weight of a mustang.

of course gearing to be taken into account too. its hard to imagine that the mustang would be more airo than the bike with all that frontal area !

@@rhett7716 . Motorcycles , even those with extensive bodywork , are FAR less Aerodynamic that your average Car . It's always been true . Certainly Frontal area matters , but the Car Body is long enough to produce Laminar flow as well . Plus 600hp vs 200hp .

@@johncunningham4820 ok i know some of those old gp bikes of yesteryear were really working on aero in wind tunnels with full fairings and had a very high top speed relative to their hp. motogp bikes would be more aero than a production bike. 200 v 600 but a lot heavier, i know less important on top end but still.

of course racing cars aero are a compromise between cornering downforce and ultimate top end speed

@@rhett7716 . The Bike was NOT a Moto-GP . It was a Superbike . VERY big difference . And even so A Moto-GP would Still not match the Aerodynamic slipperiness of a Sports Sedan or Even a NASCar .

Do you think it was intentional that he went wide it kind of looked like it

This is the most 80's comment I have ever read.

@@0Zolrender0 haha, I was born in 84

@@RY4NP You Sir.... Win the internet for the day

just about any bike over 250cc will beat any car off a line, 50 times lighter so youve made no distinct point at all

@@trevormcdonald586 there was no point to make. I was merely contradicting Tander who was trying to make it seem like the only reason the bike destroyed the car was because of Traction Control.

@@trevormcdonald586 and btw, the bike weighs about 200kg and the car about 1,400kg. That's 7 times, not 50.

@@And_rew92 the traction control makes a big difference !!

@@rhett7716 it really doesn't though. It's a lot harder to get a bike to spin the rear tyre on launch than a car.

They put "do not eat" labels on shampoo...

I hear you mate. Dispite the fact this is obviously being done on a closed racetrack they have to still put that there so they cannot be sued if idiots try to copy this.

@@And_rew92 Do they?

Boomers always find a way to complain

And Rew and cans of paint. Because paint looks so tummy you know.

What do you mean?

@@ghosts-dx6nw cheese

? Much better than any American motorsport.

Where's your evidence that it was staged? By your own reasoning I have to doubt your claim, bcuz this is the internet... :)

Just looked it up at lap record. Hope you never believe the internet and then of course never watch youtube

May be staged for this but in reality their fastest times over the weekend are only separated by around 3 tenths in favour of the Supercar.

True. A rolling start would have provided a more accurate comparison.

I suggest you ask for an opportunity to drive a V8 Supercar then. You'd be surprised just how difficult race cars are to drive. I've raced cars (professional) and bikes (amateur) in the UK. Although there's more skill involved in racing a bike, the cars are harder to drive consistently over a full race.

Steve Wood I used to race cars myself in my younger day, and later on in my life bikes. Its a generalisation, but its very true cars are easy to drive compared to bikes. Skill in racing a bike is at least 90% rider 10% machine, in a car the opposite. You talk about consistency -are you trying to tell me its easier to consistently lap on a bike than a car in a racing environment ??? Your entitled to your opinion, but anyone in the racing world knows bikes are harder in EVERY aspect particularly consistent lap times,so totally disagree Have great day 😉

Hate to tell you Jeff, but you can't compare bike vs car, it all comes down to the track and the vehicle. Look at the Mugello times for F1 vs Moto GP (both are the most extreme examples of race vehicle), 1:18.8 for F1 and 1:46.8 for Moto GP. Just like Hidden Valley last weekend, the fastest lap for a Supercar was a 1.14.9 and for the bike was a 1:15.2. But hey, anyone can ride a bike too. Just like driving, all it takes is training and practice.

And Rew Anyone can ride a bike in a straight line. Racing is a totally different proposition but you wouldn’t know because you have never competed. Anyone can drive a car on the road and competitively as it requires far less skill. If you read my message thoroughly you would understand that i raced both You seem fixated on lap times, it has nothing to do with it. Motogp bikes are slower in lap time, but probably 5 times the skill in riding them compared to any form of car whether its touring car or F1

Same

Ducati panigale is an is Italian bike

@@brandoncourts5936 it’s a Australian super bike you idiot, raced in the Australian super bike series. We all know Ducati is Italian, it’s modified to Australian superbike specs.

Your saying because it's Australian spec it's not an Italian bike? Really