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Supercharging an Insulation Blowing Machine 

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We are working with this Force 1 insulation blowing machine. This is part 3 of the video series. We are replacing the small blower in the machine with a much larger, and more powerful blower.
When trying to dense-pack cellulose insulation into an enclosed cavity it is critical the machine can put out a minimum of 2.8 psi. This is the pressure of the air in pounds per square inch. The small blower could only put out 2.3 psi (shown in part 2). After replacing the blower we are getting 4.0 psi. That's great! The machine can now dense-pack!
Blower: www.kleen-rite...
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@christophergruenwald5054
@christophergruenwald5054 9 месяцев назад
I feel like that took an incredible amount of time to push so little material.
@skiprope536
@skiprope536 5 лет назад
That compacted it RIDICULOUS!
@christopher6161
@christopher6161 3 года назад
thank you for telling us where to buy a new blower.
@Bugkiller666
@Bugkiller666 6 лет назад
Again, Thanks for Sharing David !
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching.
@SomeGuyInSandy
@SomeGuyInSandy Год назад
Upvoted for making a giant mess!
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe 6 лет назад
Thanks for the valuable videos.
@williamjewell9574
@williamjewell9574 6 лет назад
I teach dense pack by using a large piece of foam, cut a small hole in the foam piece, push your hose thru it and then push the hose into the wall and slide the foam piece up to the wall, it is both a seal at the wall and a vent as it is difficult to pack insulation in the wall if you cant get the air out Bill Jewell INTEC
@truthdealer99
@truthdealer99 2 года назад
Hi Bill, do you have an email address and or a website to communicate?
@polarunion
@polarunion 6 лет назад
You're actually my hero. You're doing all the things I've been working toward. My two blower machine gets close to compaction but this is the confidence I needed to boost it. Did the company provide you with the blower motor? Have you thought about putting the additional blower in line to make it a two blower system? Krendl had an auxiliary box with a blower on it and I wondered if that would work or exert too much pressure back to the hopper.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 6 лет назад
Hi Patrick Reardon, Thanks for the kind comment. Since you might be doing something similar, allow one word of caution. I've noticed the switch gets hot, so it clearly is not rated for this many amps. My next video I'm going to go through the machine and check the wiring and replace the switches (maybe with relays) so it can handle the higher amps. Did I think about having both blowers? Yes, I thought about it and decided against it. I made an assumption that during a dense-pack the larger blower could wind up pushing air backwards out the smaller blower and I would loose the pressure at the end of the hose. I have worked with larger machines with multiple blowers and they used check-valves for each blower to prevent this. So I looked into that as well and just decided I was making the project more complicated than it needed to be. At the end of the day it is a small hopper, small air lock and I just don't need more volume. Have you tested your two-blower machine to see what psi you have? That psi check is crucial for dense-packing. This is Bill's machine, I agreed to do the work for him, and he is letting me make videos. Bill picked up the blower and I don't know where he got it. I'll send him an e-mail and update the comment if I hear back. Thanks for watching the videos. I love seeing peoples projects, so if you get a chance can you send me a picture of your machine and/or project? I'm easy to find on facebook or my e-mail on my website.
@polarunion
@polarunion 6 лет назад
Great feedback. You're doing it right. I have been doing densepack with 2-3 blowers with a larger machine by feel. The pressure gauge is a great tool that I'll be sure to connect on the next install. I'll definitely tag you when I get some media on some of my projects. Appreciate you taking the time to share your important knowledge. I'm also using chev batt's and victron on a shipping container with great results. I'm Ottawa, so I'll have to come up with a warming solution to keep the batteries above freezing this winter but enjoyed all your little tips on working with those 60v sections and separating them. Don't have facebook, but would love to stay in touch preardon@gmail.com
@eugen995
@eugen995 2 года назад
Hi, great video and great detail explanation! I am working on a cellulose blower machine, can you please send me a link from where did you buy the new blower? Please, Iam interested in the specs, power etc. Thank you!! Edit, found it in the video description ))
@lustigerwitz9931
@lustigerwitz9931 2 года назад
The link to the blower seems to be linking to a Vacuum Motor. Is this the correct one or does it need to be a Blower motor?
@compactc9
@compactc9 2 года назад
You could use central vacuum system PVC or steel fittings, they're the right size already. The motor outlet is 2in outer diameter, among other things, this motor is used in central vacuum cleaners. Well, both of these motors are really...
@gugaiz
@gugaiz 5 лет назад
Hi David, great videos and information!. I am thinking to get a blower (double motor) that has 9 PSI in total, because I would like to spray-on cellulose into the walls. Would that be too much?. Then if I want to dense pack, would I need to reduce it to 4.5 PSI (only one motor on) or I can still do it with 9 PSI?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 5 лет назад
Hi gugaiz, Thanks for watching. Your first question: Would 9 psi be too much for spray on cellulose? I don't know. I've never done spray on cellulose. Sorry. Question #2: Can you use a 9 psi blower with dense-pack? Yes. You will only be up at 9 psi if you put a cork in the hose. Usually it will be operating at a lower psi and the important thing will be volume. However, be careful. I have literally blown a wall apart when using a high-psi machine for the first time. Using blowers that can only go up to 4 or 5 psi can keep you from accidentally damaging a wall.
@meblake7359
@meblake7359 5 лет назад
Using the Worx leaf vac/blower is not producing enuf psi. I finally, put a gauge on it and am only getting 1 psi because of all the leaking. I am going to get that blower motor you got to upgrade that Force 1 and Y it into the blowing hose to see if I can get a better pressure for dense packing. I really don't want to have to pack the walls by hand. Do you think that motor could blow my drywall off the nails? Thanks in advance.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 5 лет назад
Yes, the blower I'm using could potentially blow the drywall off. If I'm working on an area I don't think can handle the pressure, I will add extra screws. But, I suggest blowing behind insul-webb netting instead of blind cavities (drywall)
@meblake7359
@meblake7359 5 лет назад
@@DavidPozEnergy That motor won't work then because this house was exterior sheathed with celotex fiberboard and interior 1/2" drywall. There is no way the fiberboard would hold up or the drywall. I guess I will have to make a manual packer to pack it into the wall. One more question: the ad for the ameteck vacuum motor says CFM @ 2" Orifice: 142, but you used 1.5" pvc pipe to connect it to your blower. Is it 2" or 1.5"?.....Thanks again for your help.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 5 лет назад
I used a 45 degree PVC fitting, made for 1.5" PVC pipe. The inside diameter of the fitting was more than 1.5" because it was made to go over 1.5" pipe. That's why it worked. There are many ways to do this, I was just trying to fit the blower into the tight space. I was also considering bolting the blower on the outside and using a short piece of 2" hose to make the connection. Whatever works for you. As for the fiberboard on the outside, yes, it is a very weak product and probably can't handle this. If you were to gut one side or the other and use netting, then the board you leave behind will see less pressure and probably not blow off. But this requires removing the fiberboard or drywall.
@meblake7359
@meblake7359 5 лет назад
@@DavidPozEnergy Yes, you are absolutely right. If I had the money to open walls, I would build 16" deep walls and make my house super insulated. Thanks again for all your knowledge. I have to make a wall tamper...sigh.
@andrewwellman
@andrewwellman 2 года назад
Can you give me the larger motors specs or model number.
@59seank
@59seank 6 лет назад
Do you lose R-value when you dense pack? I know you are not supposed to compress fiberglass insulation.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 6 лет назад
Yes, but not much. The numbers vary slightly by manufacturer, but I typically use R-3.8/in. for settled R-value in an open blow, and I assume a settled density of 2.0 pounds per cubic foot. However for a dense-pack I typically use R-3.6/in. You actually don't get down to 3.6 until you reach 4 pounds per cubic foot, so I err on the conservative side.
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 6 лет назад
Side Note: About compressing a fiberglass batt. Sometimes there is a misconception out there. It's true that if you have a 2x4 wall you want to use a 3.5" thick batt made for that 2x4 wall. However, if you cram the 5.5" thick batt (for 2x6) into that wall you will still end up with about R-10.5 total. The R-value per inch decreases, and the batt won't have the R-value stated on the label, but the batt is not worthless. It is more important to make sure there are no voids in the assembly. For example, I have worked on projects with old rough-sawn studs that were, say, exactly 4", not 3.5". If you put in a 3.5" batt (which says 2x4 on the label) then there would be a 1/2" air gap behind the batt. This gap would allow convection air currents to swirl in and out of the batt rendering it's effectiveness near nothing. Instead I used batts labeled for 2x6 with a thickness of 5.5". It won't achieve the R-19 label (or R-20 or R-21 depending on manufacturer) but it will give a good R-12 in that situation and fully fill the cavity.
@59seank
@59seank 6 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I really enjoy your videos. I smile every time your daughter sings in the intro!
@williamjewell9574
@williamjewell9574 6 лет назад
Compacting the cellulose is designed to reduce air infiltration as it stops air flow once you get it to about 3.25 pounds per square foot, you have achieved an ideal pack Bill Jewell INTEC
@michaelhorton6166
@michaelhorton6166 6 лет назад
Why not weigh that container before and after to verify how much got packed in there?
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 6 лет назад
For two reasons. First, you can't weigh walls and attics after insulating, but you can count bags. So learning the feel and counting bags is important. Second, I don't have a package scale or luggage scale. However, if you (or anyone) would like to send me a scale then I'm happy to re-make the video with a weight.
@scaryperson27
@scaryperson27 4 года назад
I suspect his yard is well insulated.
@juancarlostorres1703
@juancarlostorres1703 5 лет назад
Please help i have 1 force 2 green top machine and it wont blow air through the hose only blows a little through the agitator idk what to do its my machine gone or do i need a new blower or a new seal help please
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 5 лет назад
Hi Juan, It kinda sounds like the seals on the air-lock need replacing. Don't give up right away on the machine. I show how to check some items in my previous video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jJFRb1ifOAo.html Have you checked that one out? Also, have you tried customer service from the manufacturer? www.inteccorp.com/contact/
@joesrvhome
@joesrvhome 6 лет назад
This so reminds me of Tim the tool man Taylor...
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 6 лет назад
LOL
@joeydelmarsjr.646
@joeydelmarsjr.646 4 года назад
where can i rent the Force 1 because lowes and HD machine suck
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 года назад
I don't know where you can rent a Force 1. But this company has powerful machines for rent: www.accu1.com/blowing-machine-vacuum-rentals-s/88.htm
@markbrowning4334
@markbrowning4334 3 года назад
I've seen several comments that spoke poorly of the rental blowers from the box stores. I did my attic today with one of those rentals. I have to admit, I was nervous about what to expect with the performance. I was pleasantly surprised. We only had the little gate half open and I was still able to get good coverage and output on a 100' run. I don't know, maybe I was just lucky on the particular blower that I was dealt.
@juansot2076
@juansot2076 4 года назад
Hey David, how are u? im from argentina, and i want to manufacture a insulation machine to insulate my future home. but in this part of the world its imposible get a blower like you show in your video. do you think it can work with a blower like these?: http2.mlstatic.com/turbina-de-15-hp-para-castillos-y-juegos-inflables-D_NQ_NP_335111-MLA20498398538_112015-F.jpg Thankyou for your help in advance!
@DavidPozEnergy
@DavidPozEnergy 4 года назад
That blower looks good. But I don't know the specs. The new blower is 1.7hp.
@BigBlueDog8
@BigBlueDog8 2 года назад
You did not weight the results. So I cannot give thumbs on this.
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