I kid you not, I watched this episode for the very first time last night and I rewound every damn casifer moment and rewatched them all. He is brilliant and I adore him. 2:44 - 2:58 had me yelling, that is such a Pellegrino Lucifer move...and his voice? Perfection.
An Angel yes but not a pure one, because at this point it’s not the Angel castiel appearing, it’s lucifer (notice the change in sound affects, no wings flapping but rather an almost metallic sound)
Dawning this mask, this Cas mask, this grim face if angelic constipation, just augh, then teaming up with you two, I thought you two were insufferable as mortal enemies but working with you, that's the soul crusher.
Out of all the parts that seemed to be overlooked in this scene is Sam waking up and saying: "no, no!" in a desperate voice as he thinks Lucifer is going to hurt him. Such a sad second
I know this scene confirmed for many people that archangels can be banished with the angel banishing sigil, but I disagree. I think the archangels are far too powerful for the sigil to work on them and the only reason that Lucifer got banished was because he was in castiel's vessel. We know that the sigil can banish ordinary angels in their vessels, and given the fact that Jim is no longer in Castiel's vessel after being killed by either Lucifer or Raphael and that Castiel is the one that gives consent for Lucifer to enter, it is implied that when chuck resurrected Castiel he made took Jim to heaven and made Jim's former body rightfully Castiel's. Thus when Dean activated the sigil, it was Castiel who got banished along with his vessel (Jim's body) and since Lucifer has in castiel's vessel he got banished too. Had Lucifer been alone in that vessel, or in his true vessel (Sam) the sigil many not have worked.
If the angel rule about needing the owner to give consent applies to archangels as well. Then chances are that the angel banishing sigils work on archangels as well as regular angels. We know that holy oil can trap archangels as seen with Gabriel and Raphael.
Is it the same sigil they used on normal angels, was thinking it could been an improved sigils from the men of letters knowledge they obtained after reading through their library regarding angels and hands of gods. Also archangels are basically angels who was constructed by the personally touch from the primordial universe by god while the other angels are more simple made as it was easier for chuck to revive an angel than an archangel.
No. They are still Angels at the end of the day so it would still work otherwise the trick with the holy fire would be the same. Both Gabriel and Lucifer were trapped by it. I see no reason why banishing them wouldn't work even if they're stronger than a normal Angel.
Casifer is hands down my favorite character. I know all his lines. Why the faces boys you should be cheering we have a common enemy with this she will be no problem.
First off, one. An angel should not be able to possess another angel. Two, jimmy Novak’s body would not be able to contain lucifer’s power, it would burst. Three, what the fuck were the writers on when they wrote this contradictory sandwich...
It was confirmed by the writers that when Cas became human his body became officially his and thus was able to be possessed, and Jimmy has been described as being a strong vessel, and his vessel was breaking it just wasn’t visible. (Quote from Sam: “It’s a strong vessel, it’s held Cas for years”)
