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Support Weapons Analysis on Heavy Enemies | Chargers & Bile Titans | Helldivers 2 Weapons Guide 

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In this video I breakdown where the armour is, what type it is and how many shots it takes to kill the Charger and Bile Titan. Using all the heavy support weapons; Railgun; Eat Expendable Anti-Tank; Recoiless; Spear; Flame Thrower; Arc Thrower; Grenade Launcher and Autocannon.
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FAQ/Corrections:
I forgot to mention! All meaningful tests were performed on difficulty 7, in case of any scaling. I have done tests knocking off the Brood Commanders head with the AR-23P, I found it was the exact same shots on Difficulty 4-7. But right now I’m still doing tests on 7 just in case there are hidden modifiers.
Q0) No laser cannon?
A0) The Dev blog said this was step 1 in updates. Thought I would wait for more before testing it.
Q1) Can you explain your testing methodology please?
A1) I run tests until I have at minimum 4 clean recordings with data (in most situations). Any tests where the target may have taken environmental or other damage are discounted. I ensure the target is at 100% health and only include data where frame by frame I can confirm where the shots hit (Unless stated otherwise with words used like Approx or about).
For example, I must have killed 65-80 Chargers with the Railgun. But many tests are discarded as I accidentally missed the area the specific test, such as hitting the back with a shot instead all of them on the head. Or an annoying Bile Spewer dealt some damage to the Charger, or it ran over some environmental effect that dealt it some damage etc.
Once I have a minimum of 4 clean recordings, I feel fairly confident that is pretty strong data to use. I will also try and confirm outlier data. For example, the 4 head shot kill I mentioned with the Railgun. I tried to recreate this but could not over another 8 or 9 tests, instead only confirming even more the 6-shot kill. I then select the cleanest of the recordings that I have and use that in the video as evidence.
Q2) Any addition data on “Durability Damage”?
A2) It is still quite an unknown but there are multiple theories:
1) The area reduces the damage taken, but “Durability Damage” is dealt at 100%
2) The area reduces all damage until enough “Durability Damage” to the section is dealt, at that point the reduction stops working and 100% damage is dealt.
Q3) Can you explain more about the hidden armour values?
A3) The CEO of Arrowhead said on X (formally Twitter), that there are 10 levels of armour. Enemies will be assigned a value, and weapons have a corresponding penetration value. If the weapon penetration value is the below the armour value, the shots deflect for no damage. If both values are the same, the weapon deals 50% (the white crosshair hit marker). Above the armour value, full damage, (the red crosshair hit marker).
When a weapon states it has “Light Armour” that means the actual value could be 1-3. This is why some weapons which both have Light Armour Penetration may differ when shooting the same bug, one getting a white hit marker whilst the other gets a red hit mark for full damage.
For example, the AR-23 from Data Mining appears to have a value of 2. The Slugger has a value of 3. Presumably the head of a Brood Commander has a value of 2. This is why the AR-23 hits for reduced damage, yet the Slugger still with Light Armour penetration but at a value of 3, beats the armour and deals full damage.
These are the best educated guesses and assumptions right now.
Q4) I would love a spreadsheet with all this data!
A4) As I’m running tests, I am populating a spreadsheet with all this data. I also hope to work with some people in my Discord server to flesh out a lot more data. I will hopefully have a shareable spreadsheet soon!
Q5) Why do you put the word “Three” on the screen in text at various points?
A5) It has been made aware to me, (often in a nasty way :’( in the comments), that I don’t pronounce words with TH very well, instead making the F sound. For clarity I have started putting the text on screen to be clear on what I am saying. “You get (three) ammo”, instead of what people hear as, “You get (free) ammo”. As a child I had speech ffferapy ;) because I still had not spoken at 4 years of age. This is likely the reason I have not developed a very good TH in my pronunciation. P.S. My Mum sometimes jokes that she wishes I never learned to speak, as I now don’t shut up :)
0:00 Intro
0:10 Charger Info
2:47 Railgun Charger
3:52 Autocannon Charger
4:53 Arc Thrower Charger
5:41 Grenade Launcher Charger
6:24 Flame Thrower Charger
7:08 EAT Charger
7:46 Recoiless Charger
8:37 Spear Charger
10:04 Bile Titan Info
10:53 Railgun Titan
11:23 Hidden Armour Values
12:17 Autocannon + Arc Titan
13:01 Eat and Recoiless Titan

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@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 3 месяца назад
The description has links to my written reference guide for this video. It also has a FAQ and corrections section. Feel free to drop a comment and I may well add it to that section. Thank you for watching and I will see you next time!
@yangpaan453
@yangpaan453 3 месяца назад
I consistently kill bile titans with 2 ATE-rockets to one side of it's mouth. You dont aim at the middle of the head, the weakspot is on the side. (on 9s, no ps5 crossplay so theyre not weak)
@yaderniyhuesos2
@yaderniyhuesos2 3 месяца назад
Just wanted to say, at my experience, spear can one-shot bile titan if fired right at the head
@Delarins
@Delarins 3 месяца назад
The cool thing with the expendable is that you can realistically use the call in as a sticky nade to kill the chargers without using the rockets since it's about a min cd.
@schifferfoto8659
@schifferfoto8659 3 месяца назад
You can fire the arc thrower much faster after the first shot (about half of a full charge) without sacrificing too much damage. I kill titans with it quite regularly.
@yangpaan453
@yangpaan453 3 месяца назад
@@schifferfoto8659 you dont sacrifice any damage. full charging just makes the shot more accurate
@itisluna4782
@itisluna4782 3 месяца назад
Be careful what you hear about the Bile Titans. Nobody knows if its intentional or not, but when a PS5 player is in the lobby, Bile Titans are SIGNIFICANTLY weaker.
@Demonicdumbassss
@Demonicdumbassss 3 месяца назад
I don't understand why this is a thing
@Armetar
@Armetar 3 месяца назад
I think PS5 player needs to be host tho
@azulovesyou2
@azulovesyou2 3 месяца назад
It's been figured out. There's a bug where if a ps5 player is host, bile titans are super weak.
@sasharudyy3587
@sasharudyy3587 3 месяца назад
OhDough did some testing, and it seems you just need to he playing in crossplay with a PS5 player in the lobby to get the bug. I haven't seen tests done on full PS5 lobbies, tho
@Demonicdumbassss
@Demonicdumbassss 3 месяца назад
@@sasharudyy3587 find it strange
@melo7038
@melo7038 3 месяца назад
Great video. Just a tip with the arc thrower. You can make it shoot twice as fast if you half charge your shots after the first firing. It still does the same amount of damage. Think of it like a minigun, where the first shot requires it being revved.
@araulen4820
@araulen4820 3 месяца назад
Really? I was doing the half shot stuff after the third shot. It's still full damage when half charging after the first shot?
@Vurpal
@Vurpal 3 месяца назад
only difference I've noticed from a full charge compared to fast charge is the distance the arc can shoot
@WastePlace
@WastePlace 3 месяца назад
I also think the damage when charged fully brings it to a 5 shot kill on a charger if all connect with it’s head, could’ve sworn I counted out that many shots each time I’ve downed a charger with it
@thetode
@thetode 3 месяца назад
@@Vurpal I'm fairly certain distance doesn't change, just the amount of enemies that can be chained. Half charge is 1 chained enemy, full charge is 2 chained enemies.
@fishercyza5366
@fishercyza5366 3 месяца назад
Helps to stand under the bile Titan and shoot up with arc weapons, you can strip the belly away extremely quickly with the blitzed or thrower before finishing it with the thrower
@andremariaribeirodacunha3695
@andremariaribeirodacunha3695 3 месяца назад
Great vid. No time wasted, just pure information, extremely useful. On another note: after reading the video description, it blew my mind that some people think you have poor pronunciation. I think you have great speaking skills, you talk with personality, without it feeling obnoxious 'youtube' hype. I have not had a problem with a single word you have said
@johncoffee5837
@johncoffee5837 3 месяца назад
This 💯
@firewalkwithjuno5421
@firewalkwithjuno5421 3 месяца назад
If he came in yelling about how this one trick would turn my game upside down, it would've been an instant don' recommend click, but short and sweet information with visuals are literally top quality content.
@CrizzX
@CrizzX 2 месяца назад
Yeah. He speaks fine.
@Hermitstatus
@Hermitstatus 3 месяца назад
8:09 This is what I respect the most from Arrowhead, the fact that we can partially reload and finish the process whilst dodging enemies instead of going back to square one every time is truly wonderful.
@TheWaffleRadio
@TheWaffleRadio 3 месяца назад
Except when we cant lol looks like you can just pull infinite spent casings out of the SPEAR
@wyn9693
@wyn9693 3 месяца назад
​@@TheWaffleRadio spear is basically unfinished atm though. Every other weapon I've used has the power to simply do parts of a reload
@breakthecode4634
@breakthecode4634 3 месяца назад
​@@wyn9693 nah lots of buggy interactions
@thehipinmyear
@thehipinmyear Месяц назад
Stimming... fucking life saver when you need to stim. LOVE the hell out of this feature in games. Just started playing days ago, and I can see why it's gotten the love it has. Well deserved.
@TheMonkeydela
@TheMonkeydela 3 месяца назад
Genuinely helpful video with little to no wasted time. Thanks for re-confirming my obsession with spamming the EAT Launcher all over the map
@Stonnin
@Stonnin 3 месяца назад
Need one of you on every hell dive
@kursedreaperable
@kursedreaperable 3 месяца назад
EAT is Love EAT is life
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata 3 месяца назад
Funny how one of the cheapest early stratagems to buy remains one of the best for removing the big threats. Not needing to waste a backpack slot for it is great.
@MrOrdosan
@MrOrdosan 3 месяца назад
ya. I consistently run 9s with my EAT. its severely slept on and I wont leave home without it.
@davidfrazier6308
@davidfrazier6308 3 месяца назад
@@kursedreaperable for a pc player it is because that and one or two other weapons is all that work at difficultys 8 and 9.the balancing for pc is trash. i think its on purpose i see ps5 player droping titans in a couple shots but on pc it takes 2 raill orbs and 3 to 4 anti tanks, or just one 500kg thats the most affective way and if you have 3 or four titans than expect to spend half the match getting rid of them just constantly running droping EAT's and waiting for cool downs.
@THEUrinalCake
@THEUrinalCake 3 месяца назад
Good to see this testing. Lots of [eople were saying "Oh railgun is still just as good, you just gotta get good with unsafe mode" but to me it felt about half as effective as it used to be and your testing bore that out.
@JaximusDecimus1
@JaximusDecimus1 3 месяца назад
Anytime I jump into an 8 or 9 with randoms and see they all have railguns, I know the team is going to struggle to deal with armor. It amazes me that it's still so popular.
@saltydog7482
@saltydog7482 3 месяца назад
It's a really good option on bots in my opinion. Let's you one shot deveststors from far away through their shields too. And can still quickly kill hulks with face shots. Definitely fell off vs bugs tho
@Mr.Sleepy._.
@Mr.Sleepy._. 3 месяца назад
Nah, on console lobbies, it is still one shot on unsafe when it's spitting (2/3 shot normally), but in a PC lobby, it takes like 10 to 15
@ragingmonkey4592
@ragingmonkey4592 3 месяца назад
@@saltydog7482 You can also do the same with Autocannon or potentially AMR too though, and those do not require reloads after each shot or charging. I tend to favor the autocannon personally Edit: Maybe not through the shield, haven't tested, but definitely 1 shot to the head with a much more rapid fire rate on those earlier ones, 2 for the hulk
@saltydog7482
@saltydog7482 3 месяца назад
@ragingmonkey4592 yeah. I just find the railgun easier to use for it since it has better handling than the auto cannon. I have a harder time hitting the head with the cannon. Autocannon can break outposts though so that gives it a nice advantage
@Gottaculat
@Gottaculat 3 месяца назад
E-AT is my go-to for chargers, devastators, and bot drop ships. Charger and devastator both go down to a shot to the face. Drop ships go down with one hit to a thruster nacelle. It can also kill spore towers from across the map with one hit, but be sure to crouch/kneel to steady your shot over long range. For bile titans, my buddy and I came up with a decent one-two punch; he hits it with a spear to take off the top armor, and then I call in the orbital rail cannon to finish it. We both have fully upgraded hangars, and usually both bring 500KG Eagle bombs, giving us 4 500KGs before our eagles need to resupply. If you distract a bile titan, or hit it with EMS (which my other buddy likes to run), you can stop the titan long enough to one-shot it with a 500KG bomb, as a direct hit tends to kill it outright before even exploding. For bot Hulks and tanks, we usually call in the orbital rail cannon, and be done with them. However, the E-AT is also pretty good for taking out hulks if you get behind them and hit their vents, and I think the tank has a vent on the back, too, but my experience with these is limited, and usually the hulks draw so much fire by the time I get behind it, that I don't know if the E-AT is a 1-shot, or if it just took a lot of damage. The E-AT is my favorite, because it has a crazy-fast cool-down, and comes with 2 launchers - a great way to rattle off 3 rockets if you still have one from earlier, or better yet, arm your buddies who are focusing on eagles, orbitals, or sentries. I also run a backpack shield generator, great for blocking smaller bug hits when lining up a charger head shot, as taking a hit without the shield disrupts your aim. One final thing, you can lure a charger into your E-AT stratagem delivery location, and get a free kill as the pod slams through it, giving the E-AT the potential to kill 3 chargers every 70 seconds, or every 63 seconds if you have the 10% reduced heavy weapons stratagems cool-down ship upgrade. The E-AT, I'd say, is pretty well-balanced. The one-and-done is inconvenient, especially when on planets with stratagem-jamming ion storms, or near bot jammers. However, it's a proper anti-tank warhead, and as such, should be the best at defeating heavy armor, and being able to one-shot a charger is not OP at all, it's what you'd freaking expect to happen if you shot a AT rocket through the head of what's essentially a charging armored African bull elephant.
@davidsprott3216
@davidsprott3216 3 месяца назад
i agree with everything but i prefer recoilless against bots,because of jammers and potential calldown/cooldown delays.
@gmikecstein
@gmikecstein 3 месяца назад
The EAT ball will just stick to the chargers and follow it, then the pod will drop for (usually) a one shot, unless you hit the butt.
@barrymonka5125
@barrymonka5125 2 месяца назад
Nice essay. Quasar cannon.
@Destructaconn
@Destructaconn 3 месяца назад
Invaluable information about the chargers with the flamethrower, thanks so much man. You deserve all the engagement
@NinjaGingaStubbs
@NinjaGingaStubbs 3 месяца назад
Cant believe my favorite DRG tester is now my favorite HD2 tester! Keep up the great work!!
@kamikeserpentail3778
@kamikeserpentail3778 3 месяца назад
They're basically the same kind of game. Go in, do a set mission and maybe some optional missions often involving a time consuming mini game sort of thing or subtasks that expose you to enemies, target enemy weak points or blow off armor, get overwhelmed and rely on abilities or grenades to get out of tight spots, then get to evac in the time limit, after which everyone shares in rewards.
@PreferablyPurple
@PreferablyPurple 3 месяца назад
Holy shit i saw your comment below the video while i was watching (on mobile) and then it dissapeared abd had to scroll for 3 minutes just to find it to give you a like! ROCK AND STONE AND DEMOCRACY
@stay_coolXD
@stay_coolXD 3 месяца назад
For KARL!!
@skapunker1986
@skapunker1986 3 месяца назад
what is drg ?
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 3 месяца назад
​@@skapunker1986 deeprock galactic, a coop centered game that's a lot of fun
@ShadwRavn
@ShadwRavn 3 месяца назад
That flamethrower tip is really nice. Thanks. Love the high quality videos.
@CrossKnight
@CrossKnight 3 месяца назад
Amazing video, thanks for all the hard work! *Cries in Laser Cannon*
@silvergeist43
@silvergeist43 2 месяца назад
Thanks for putting in the time to do all this testing. It was a huge help
@sasharudyy3587
@sasharudyy3587 3 месяца назад
A few points that I'd like to add: - Spear can 1 shot headshot bile titans. In my experience, it's also pretty easy to do. You just need to have them facing you when you shoot them, and I recommend pointing the spear above the lock point so that it's more likely to hit the forehead. This tecnique also works with chargers, but you have to aim below the lock point to reduce the minimum distance at which you can get a headshot. - There is an armor level between medium and heavy probably called "light vehicle armor", according to the description of the guns that it applies to. For the moment, it seems to apply to the AMR, the Autocannon and probably the safe mode railgun (haven't tested that). Enemies that have this armor level are bot striders (you can't damage the cockpit from the front with the MG43, but can with these guns, for example), and Hulks (their face). This doesn't mean that these guns aren't useful againt bugs, since they deal full damage to medium armor parts like bile spewer heads or hive guard heads, giving you the ability to oneshot them. - this granularity of armor levels going from 1 to 10 doesn't seem to apply in practice. Enemies either have no armor, light armor, medium armor, light vehicle armor or heavy armor, so 5 levels total. Every weapon that gets white hit markers on certain enemy parts, does so in all the same spots. There is no practical difference in penetration between the MG-43, Slugger, Senator, AR-23P and Dominator. They will get red, white and bounce hitmarkers in all the same places. It's likely the the Slugger and Senator are just mislabeled Edit: I also just tested it, and you can get very consistent 3 shot kills on chargers with the Railgun if you hit them in the head with above 90% charge shots. You can tell it's above 90% when you can see the last longer horizontal black line.
@blue_blood2885
@blue_blood2885 3 месяца назад
The armor levels are probably to make it so a weapon that has say, the same armor penetration as medium deal 50%, while another one can deal full damage wihtout being able to penetrate heavy armor
@Joe_Friday
@Joe_Friday 3 месяца назад
Just need them to fix the lock on issues with the spear. I'd run it so much more. I can't figure out if it's by design or not.
@thatch7653
@thatch7653 3 месяца назад
ok so i'm not crazy, good
@ralts6464
@ralts6464 3 месяца назад
@@Joe_Fridayits just bad programming on how it works so it is how it works.
@simplysage3562
@simplysage3562 3 месяца назад
Slugger pierces hive guard heads while being ligh armor pen
@EspressoInSpace
@EspressoInSpace 3 месяца назад
I remember watching your DRG videos and being in awe of how well tested and put together they are. Now watching you do the same thing for Helldivers is super helpful. Some of the highest quality content for each game. Keep it up!
@doppleganger5576
@doppleganger5576 3 месяца назад
I definitely do this sort of analysis as well small scale with my friends just to test fun stuff out and see what works. I'm glad you're taking the extra effort to record the data!
@ashlynnvickery9643
@ashlynnvickery9643 3 месяца назад
I love the clear methodology of this video, very well presented, very open discussion of testing. An amazing analysis!! Amazing work man!!!!
@Dr.Boring
@Dr.Boring 3 месяца назад
there's an additional benefit to the expendable anti tank, as it is very easy to stick the call down to a chargers head and have it kill them as it lands, so on average I find I can kill three chargers per EAT which given its extremely short cooldown, is incredible
@maggnet4829
@maggnet4829 3 месяца назад
You mean the ball sticks to the head, right? Like the resupply? Does it only stick to the head or other parts too?
@Unahim
@Unahim 3 месяца назад
It's a "Known Issue" that call-ins that stick to bugs, still land where the ball originally landed. So it won't track them. It's been like this since the start of the game, it's still on the "to-fix" list. Edit: Others below have corrected me. It appears equipment stratagems do track, it's mainly the orbitals and eagles that are bugged.
@scoople6
@scoople6 3 месяца назад
I know that's true for orbitals and maybe eagles but it does indeed work when calling equipment pods in like weapons or supplies. I've seen plenty of equipment stick to a bug, follow them, then land on them.@@Unahim
@TheTroubleshooter
@TheTroubleshooter 3 месяца назад
stun grenades also can stall chargers and titans for hellpods to smash them (5s each)
@-moongorilla-
@-moongorilla- 3 месяца назад
​@@TheTroubleshooterdoes the stun need to hit the main body/head of a bile titan, or does it work with just hitting a leg?
@ThatTravGuy
@ThatTravGuy 3 месяца назад
The editing and work here is fantastic. Great video, very informative, and very engaging.
@brayan1612
@brayan1612 3 месяца назад
Great video, no annoying intro, no bullshit, direct to the point and very high quality content.
@tehphoebus
@tehphoebus 3 месяца назад
The quality of your videos is truly excellent. Thank you for doing all of this
@QwertyThe2nd
@QwertyThe2nd 3 месяца назад
Stumbled on your armor pen analysis video just yesterday, and got this today. Really great info here and I appreciate cutting right to the chase with everything. You're doing great work for democracy out there and have earned yourself a subscriber and definitely some shares.
@user-rx4wf2tq7n
@user-rx4wf2tq7n Месяц назад
By far the highest quality video of this kind. Thank you for your hard work!!
@murnivex
@murnivex 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the info, will be sharing this video with my friends.
@bonbongandalf4920
@bonbongandalf4920 3 месяца назад
Just found this on my feed. You may be the first HD2 youtuber I see which actually put in work in the video instead of just narrating reddit/discord comments Keep up the good work! ❤
@ivanfranebijelic7009
@ivanfranebijelic7009 3 месяца назад
A valuable extra note, with certain weapons, it's possible to significantly reduce the shots to kill by first blowing up the Bile Titan's bile sacks. This also significantly empowers certain strategems, with the orbital railcannon being a guaranteed kill if the sacks are gone, and making the 110mm Rocket Pods much more likely to oneshot as well. This makes having a primary that can destroy the sacks quickly very valuable. Side note, technically speaking I believe the new Plasma Punisher shotgun primary can kill a Charger through its armor with roughly a full mag to the head, so it should be able to eventually kill Titans too, not worth it but better than having no way at all to damage it when you respawn
@Lakita2880
@Lakita2880 3 месяца назад
The plasma shotgun also can kill chargers by shooting underneath them
@ivanfranebijelic7009
@ivanfranebijelic7009 3 месяца назад
@@Lakita2880 Yeah but you can get much faster kills by direct hitting the head or abdomen
@jasony8480
@jasony8480 3 месяца назад
Wow, thanks for the information. My friend and I have been disproportionately gearing up heavy anti-tank to kill titans when they can be around (I swear the things have just been tanking more hits than even this analysis has shown). Ambushing to kill the sacks is not difficult and I always ended up using my railcannon during the fight anyways.
@ivanfranebijelic7009
@ivanfranebijelic7009 3 месяца назад
@@jasony8480 Different body parts have separate health pools, they are probably taking so much to kill because you hit one shot to the head, a few to the body, a couple on the legs etc
@jasony8480
@jasony8480 3 месяца назад
@@ivanfranebijelic7009 The average engagement starts with either a rocket to the head and/or a 500kg, then normally a rail cannon blowing a hole in it, what can only be a missed head rocket or required charger kill after that...the situation tends to get messy at that point. I think hitting the sacks underneath and then a rail cannon sounds a lot more repeatable and opens up more weapon combinations (autocannon for example).
@akylesjr2
@akylesjr2 3 месяца назад
Eye opening just like the last one, thank you for everything you do and data you have collected. please stay in lab and sharing your finds we appreciate every you do bruh. Rockin Stone
@johannesbjerkejannesson428
@johannesbjerkejannesson428 3 месяца назад
Really great vid man! Keep em coming, good work and thankyou 🙏 Had to have take you a while with this testing and editing. We all really apriciate 👌
@WulfieZi
@WulfieZi 3 месяца назад
I've been 2-shotting Titans with EAT's ever since the game came out. Glad to see people are picking up on how useful it is.
@PWNsoldier
@PWNsoldier 3 месяца назад
I don't really have much to add, but good job on breaking down the ten levels of armour values! Commenting to give you some "engagement" because you deserve it
@cixtos
@cixtos 3 месяца назад
You are appreciated 🚀
@cixtos
@cixtos 3 месяца назад
I’m curious about the audible range (sound signature) of different weapons and I’m also curious about the available fire weapons and damage. These are more niche topics so no rush to look into it
@GamingExistence
@GamingExistence 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this, very unexpected 😊 Appreciate the ideas also!
@taraskywalker453
@taraskywalker453 3 месяца назад
Thank you for taking the time to produce this! I have nominated you for a Democracy Award for your brave knowledge collecting endeavours!
@hashdarwin4097
@hashdarwin4097 2 месяца назад
Lovely video very insightful, looking forward to more of these informational high quality videos!
@jeongsong1855
@jeongsong1855 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your hard work, glad to have some of my theories supported.
@KaaneDragonShinobi
@KaaneDragonShinobi 3 месяца назад
The Helldiver Corps salutes you. Literally the entire Helldiver Corps. It's a mandate from Super Earth, we even got the ones in traction to manage it with a little elbow grease.
@Deathsinger99
@Deathsinger99 3 месяца назад
Spear does 1 shot titans in the head, I’ve done this multiple times, but of course it’s very finicky to get working right.
@LethalOwl
@LethalOwl 3 месяца назад
Because of the finicky-factor, I generally won't even launch missions at higher difficulties than 5-6 if someone's bringing a spear for anything other than memes. 7+ difficulty and I would not launch a mission if someone wanted spear against bugs. I'd consider it more worthwhile against the bots, since there's more stationary and guaranteed 1-shot targets for the spear among the bots.
@Deathsinger99
@Deathsinger99 3 месяца назад
@@LethalOwl I just wish it worked because I love it so much 😭
@kildozer9351
@kildozer9351 3 месяца назад
I very happy I found your channel. I wish you covered more of the games I play. Good stuff.
@Ghost8492
@Ghost8492 3 месяца назад
This is some really great in-depth testing, thanks for putting in all this work.
@remigusker6024
@remigusker6024 3 месяца назад
Great vid! Also amused that for once "clip" was the correct term in regards to a weapon's ammo but it was the only term not used. XD For the unfamiliar, the way the autocannon is reloaded are referred to as stripper clips, and are where the term clip comes from in the first place
@SteviaSweetenedFlan
@SteviaSweetenedFlan 3 месяца назад
And he also said that the cartridge needs to be "primed" when the correct term is chambered. Also this made me realise it's a bit baffling that not a single ballistic weapon has a bolt hold open which would increase reload speed immensely by just having to press the bolt release instead of pulling the charging handle.
@nudgarrobot3043
@nudgarrobot3043 3 месяца назад
@@SteviaSweetenedFlan Well, our unupgraded ship ***does*** muzzle load its orbital strike guns so I'm not too surprised we have chaotic or archaic equipment solutions
@landenmorton4543
@landenmorton4543 3 месяца назад
Noticed that too! Thought this was my chance to be a gun nerd
@lordcola-3324
@lordcola-3324 3 месяца назад
No Flamethrower test against the Bile Titan?
@mattm3023
@mattm3023 2 месяца назад
I tested it. It takes about one full magazine of the flamethrower for you to get crushed to death
@Taco_Yum_Yum
@Taco_Yum_Yum Месяц назад
Flamethrower doesn't do anything to the bile titan due to its armor rating, just like he said with the charger head armor it's the same for the bile Titan's full body besides the belly
@TahUbermensch
@TahUbermensch 3 месяца назад
Thanks for all this comprehensive info!
@hedgehoginmist
@hedgehoginmist 3 месяца назад
chef's kiss quality - the data collection, analysis, visualization, general editing all outstanding!
@KEBB-ho7fr
@KEBB-ho7fr 3 месяца назад
13:57 Spear actually one-shots bile titans if it hits in the head. Otherwise its usually a two shot kill from the front. If the damn weapon actually locked on correctly it could be a viable bile titan killer.
@kamikeserpentail3778
@kamikeserpentail3778 3 месяца назад
I find it generally is. But it's useless against most everything else...
@hippoace
@hippoace 3 месяца назад
​​@@kamikeserpentail3778yes it is v good vs bile titans but very hard to use against chargers as the it closes in on you very quickly.
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata 3 месяца назад
@@kamikeserpentail3778 Yep, it has one purpose and it honestly doesn't matter that much if you are in a lobby with PS5 players. Once the PS5 crossplay bug gets fixed the spear might see more usage. That and hopefully they fix the damn lock on.
@LethalOwl
@LethalOwl 3 месяца назад
I'm probably not willing to launch a mission against bugs if someone is trying to bring a spear. Next to useless against the bugs compared to it's rivals. However, I can see it being useful against bots. I'd probably still prefer EATs or Recoilless over the damn Spear, though.
@KEBB-ho7fr
@KEBB-ho7fr 3 месяца назад
@@LethalOwl IMO its the opposite, there isn't much the spear can do on bots that the railgun or EATs can't, plus if you take a spear you give up the shield backpack. Which is essential on high difficulty bots. On bugs it has the niche of being the only handheld weapon capable of one-shotting titans, however it comes with many many drawbacks.
@FeritTheBandit
@FeritTheBandit 3 месяца назад
This is the most informative video I've found on chargers and how support weapons being work on them and I appreciate it.
@ultimatexero
@ultimatexero 2 месяца назад
Exactly what I wanted to know, appreciate the subtitles too. Cheers mate
@Nartanek
@Nartanek 3 месяца назад
I do greatly appreciate the info, i myself am a fan of the railgun for the ease of use, but has to be used on unsafe mode to do anything, except against bile titans and tanks. And the orbital railcanon is a must have to deal with bile titans. :) The 500kg eagle bomb is also good but need more precision, altough you can get two in rapid succession if your eagle is fully upgraded. I must say though that they make anti armor support weapons very difficult, the expandable need to be called, then you wait for it to land, that is if there is no ion storm at the moment, plenty of things can go wrong in those few seconds. The recoiless uses your backpack and take ages to reload if you don't have a teammates doing it for you, and the spear is... like the recoiless but worse. Plain old stratagems are usually more reliable, except when the ion storm hits you.
@TheTroubleshooter
@TheTroubleshooter 3 месяца назад
combo the 500k with the new stun nades, when cooked and air bursts, they can stall titans for 5s
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 3 месяца назад
expendable AT is best used with the thought process you might not use it when you call it down. just litter the map with them. the cool down is just that fast, any extended period of time and you'll have 3 called down by the time you need to leave(not saying to do that but example) technically you have 3 shots at a time cause you'll have one in inventory and 2 waiting to be used. the 'wait' is so fast you can call one after You've been spotted by bots and get an AT in your hands time to shoot the first ship down. personally i think they aren't worth it in higher difficulties cause unless you don't have anyone to reload for you for the recoiless. the amount of enemies swarming you, there's just not enough time to safely move around the map to pick up more AT's and if your cover is blown you'll always need more than just 1 shot as usually they spam heavy armored enemies. what i believe the devs intended purpose for it in high difficulties, ideally is calling down one for other teammates to use in a pinch. you can throw the stratgem next to them where they are in a position to take out what ever needs an AT to do the job.
@waldamy
@waldamy 3 месяца назад
The spear 1-shots the titan in the head, confirmed both by other people, as well as by personal experience.
@BlenderGeek
@BlenderGeek 3 месяца назад
I usually run a spear in missions and act as a dedicated bile titan killer. It will absolutely kill them in one shot, but has its own issues.The lock on is absolutely infuriating, absolutely the worst part of the weapon. The hit location is less random than it seems, but takes a while to get used to. The missile shoots out and up from the cross hair, then turns and flies directly for the targets center of mass. If you know your distance to the target, and where exactly the missile is going to target, you can get headshots when it's facing a slightly different direction, but this is hard and inconsistent. When it's facing you, hitting the head is fairly consistent.
@blackreign673
@blackreign673 3 месяца назад
its a really cool and fun weapon but its drawbacks are just too much for me
@Duranous.
@Duranous. 3 месяца назад
On PS5 or PC?
@waldamy
@waldamy 3 месяца назад
@@Duranous. on both, solo or in party. It just oneshots BTs with a shot to the head, but you need the titan to be facing you and have quite a distance to the BT. And a bit of luck with the lock on.
@BlenderGeek
@BlenderGeek 3 месяца назад
@@Duranous. On PC, in a lobby with only PC friends.
@rajohnbutler7131
@rajohnbutler7131 3 месяца назад
This is incredible research. Well done and thank you!!! Add immense value to planning runs with my friends
@equilibrium8545
@equilibrium8545 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your service helldiver. Lots of great info here !
@Joe_Friday
@Joe_Friday 3 месяца назад
The cartridges are what goes into the clips. The clips are then attached to the top of the autocannon. The cartridges are fed from the clip into the magazine and the clip flies out the top.
@julianalonso7806
@julianalonso7806 3 месяца назад
This is a wildly accurate way to put it.
@Roxfox
@Roxfox 3 месяца назад
4:16 Just to be that guy, this is one of the rare situations where "clip" is acceptable! Like a hair clip holds strands of hair, or a paper clip holds pieces of paper, in this context a clip is a strip of metal that holds several otherwise loose rounds together, without fully enclosing them. Once the rounds have been fed into the autocannon's internal magazine, the clip is then discarded.
@batsam5214
@batsam5214 2 месяца назад
This is a fantastic video. Probably the best one on this topic. Thanks for all your research and time spent editing.
@fatalzan
@fatalzan 3 месяца назад
you just earned your self a subscriber! very informative and helpful videos
@trevital1422
@trevital1422 3 месяца назад
fantastic work. thank you for running these tests
@mr.wublin
@mr.wublin 3 месяца назад
simple, quick, and informative. great video!
@kyleknight4224
@kyleknight4224 3 месяца назад
Thank you for your service here, this is great info
@GenshiDLD
@GenshiDLD 3 месяца назад
Great info! Looking forward to putting it to practice in game.
@BBTHEDOD
@BBTHEDOD 3 месяца назад
Love the videos man the graphics are super helpful keep it up
@Conrad0124
@Conrad0124 3 месяца назад
I love your plug! Demonstrating the effort you go through to put these videos together is imo a great way to ask for support! Keep up the good work!
@PandaGamingChannel
@PandaGamingChannel 3 месяца назад
Very helpful for new (or even experienced) players like me who want a more concrete understanding on the options we have against these enemies. And the video gets to the point quickly, presentation is clean without any padding. I'm sure I will refer back to these test videos time and again in the future.
@CreideikiRox
@CreideikiRox 3 месяца назад
Great video, good info, amazing in-game tests.
@gleamsnake4893
@gleamsnake4893 3 месяца назад
The work done is nothing if not amazing! The analysis is insane! Great job!
@alividat
@alividat 3 месяца назад
You put a lot of effort in this video!! well done!
@Reginald-sc9tk
@Reginald-sc9tk 3 месяца назад
I really enjoy these deep dives, good data.
@metaslave5566
@metaslave5566 3 месяца назад
Great testing and analysis, learned a lot!
@instantkarma1978
@instantkarma1978 3 месяца назад
Informative and delivered in an efficient manner.
@eironyy
@eironyy 3 месяца назад
THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING BRUHHHHHHHHHHH No time wasted, straight to the point, great presentation, great quality. I like howw you are totally different than other youtubers who just try to make the video longer by talking nonsense between the important stuff. And you don't speak like those youtubers who just pronounce the words too long just for me to speed up the video lmao. It's obvious you put a lot of effort on this video instead of just putting a random gameplay and doing a voiceover. KEEP UP THE CONTENT.
@user-fg5cw9fs8c
@user-fg5cw9fs8c 3 месяца назад
Great video! Definitely worth a like!
@thisisit7841
@thisisit7841 2 месяца назад
Commenting to bump your video mate. Great stuff, enjoyed it a lot 👍🏻
@Waqq23
@Waqq23 3 месяца назад
fantastic video, very clear and thorough!
@SILVERWOLF6600
@SILVERWOLF6600 2 месяца назад
best video out there on this subject, Great work.
@Elerosse0
@Elerosse0 3 месяца назад
Great video, straight to business and high quality. you earn another subscriber
@KonaTheKid
@KonaTheKid 3 месяца назад
Thanks for all the helpful info! I’m grateful for all the time you put into this
@lancerhades971
@lancerhades971 3 месяца назад
Dude this is game changing info. Amazing!
@CodeCuttlefish
@CodeCuttlefish 3 месяца назад
Excellent, thorough video. Thank you.
@nekotajni394
@nekotajni394 3 месяца назад
Fantastic video, superb quality. You deserve to have a lot of subs and succeed in this.
@DeadCell79
@DeadCell79 3 месяца назад
Great work buddy. And thanks for putting in the large amount of time gather all this info 🙏🏼
@TheMetatron666
@TheMetatron666 3 месяца назад
excellent analysis, now i need one for automatons, really great job
@General_Fragrant_Soap
@General_Fragrant_Soap 3 месяца назад
Very informative and useful, like always!
@austinhoff66
@austinhoff66 3 месяца назад
Been waiting for this, phenomenal work as always m8
@DroidX1337
@DroidX1337 3 месяца назад
Great video! looks like the expendable is the move. This is exactly what I was looking for! Love your accent too!
@salamaneinglorion5956
@salamaneinglorion5956 3 месяца назад
Fantastic video! Love the thoroughness, thanks for doing this.
@toxicavenger.
@toxicavenger. 3 месяца назад
Great work. A lot of useful info. Thanks!
@hell_spartan
@hell_spartan 3 месяца назад
Finally an actual guide, keep up the good work
@Oliver_Guy
@Oliver_Guy 3 месяца назад
Great video, both concise and with great editing !
@perinoid1506
@perinoid1506 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the great info! This Helldiver hopeful will be all the more prepared in the field!
@brianmiller2185
@brianmiller2185 3 месяца назад
The best breakdown videos out there!! Thanks so much for all the work you put in!! You are a valiant soldier! 🫡
@soridosuneku
@soridosuneku 3 месяца назад
Love it when players do this level of testing. Thank you!
@Artoik-dk4vv
@Artoik-dk4vv 3 месяца назад
Really Enjoyable breakdown of how the game works and even though i knew most of it already just by playing your video is really well done and informative. Good Job! Nice Video!
@dfields3905
@dfields3905 3 месяца назад
I appreciate the work you do. Hopefully we all can learn from what you've imparted to us.
@jf2181
@jf2181 3 месяца назад
This explains so much. Great work, informative
@gorenebeda0
@gorenebeda0 3 месяца назад
I've felt something was off when watching this on mobile, and only then I've realised that this video fits the whole screen lol gj on gathering all that vital info
@SolasLunas
@SolasLunas 3 месяца назад
You're an absolute legend for this
@LifeisWAK
@LifeisWAK 3 месяца назад
excellent video! very informative, you have an insanley calming tone to your voice!
@PepC322
@PepC322 3 месяца назад
Awesome video, very informative and visually satisfying. Keep up the good work!
@BigWynter
@BigWynter 3 месяца назад
Another great video bud, well done!
@xTraontherocks
@xTraontherocks 3 месяца назад
Great video, lots of information but easy to understand!
@jonissues1914
@jonissues1914 3 месяца назад
amazing video as always, thank you for your service
@TripleAstyle1
@TripleAstyle1 2 месяца назад
Clear video straight to the point. Thank you
@h3ro11mcintyre
@h3ro11mcintyre 3 месяца назад
This was a great breakdown and I learned some things. Thanks
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