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Supporting foster children who showcases the fawn trauma response 

Laura - Foster Parent Partner
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Some kids in foster care may exhibit the Fawn Response. In this video I show some examples of what this could look like, as well as some potential supports.
As always, feel free to share how you have helped the kids in your home in the comments below!
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@goblinguy3103
@goblinguy3103 Год назад
Thank you so much for realizing a kids “yes” may be less of a “yeah let’s do it!” And more a “anything that will keep the peace”. Showing kids that it’s okay to be unhappy is so so SO important.
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
Yeah! this is such a complex one to figure out as a caregiver. Sometimes kids being flexible and empathetic is a natural part of their personality. But other times it can really be a form of protection if they are in a constant state of fear for their safety. Thank you for caring and considering!
@triple-AAA-battery
@triple-AAA-battery Год назад
Hey goblinguy!!
@waffles3629
@waffles3629 Год назад
Yep. Like I could just say yes, do whatever thing and be done with it, or I could say no and be screamed at that it wasn't my choice to make (the choice I was asked to make was apparently not my choice to make) and have it done anyway. So I'd say yes to a lot of things I didn't want to do, or was uncomfortable doing, because the other option ended at the same result with a lot of extra screaming.
@ragnkja
@ragnkja Год назад
@@waffles3629 Asking someone for their preference only to tell them that their preference is irrelevant is just plain cruel.
@anniebe4992
@anniebe4992 Год назад
​@@foster.parentingas a child I don't think I had that problem so much (I had to say yes to spending the daytime / afternoons at Grandma's when mom was working, I preferred spending time with mom, I cherished every moment spent with her when she wasn't working, at one of her employers I was even able to visit her), but as an employee myself in adulthood, the times I said yes instead of no just to get or keep a job, sad 😢
@depaula1710
@depaula1710 Год назад
Fawning can go undetected for so long because these kids may "function" so well in our systems. And then with time, the fawning becomes a real problem. Thank you so much for noticing and bringing it up so it can be softened early and kids grow into using their voices and having healthy boundaries
@BetteDavis19
@BetteDavis19 Год назад
this is me
@ninjabgwriter
@ninjabgwriter Год назад
Honestly the reason why my fawning was picked up on was because I had undiagnosed ADHD and was struggling to even partially bare minimum function. I couldn't maintain hygiene, I couldn't remember how to do most chores from one time of being shown to the next and got incredibly overwhelmed, and I was struggling with school because I didn't understand what the 'missing piece' was that would let me 'just focus'. So I would try to double down on everything, get incredibly burnt out, slip into an apology spiral, and be unable to function at all for weeks. I still struggle not to burn out, but I'm actually diagnosed and know way more coping skills and am much kinder to myself. However, assertiveness is still incredibly difficult, because I always 'feel in the wrong' even when I'm literally not. It's hardest with people I don't know as well, or authority figures, which is a concern in the back of my mind. Authority figures have abused me more often than not, so I'm concerned about when I'm no longer studying that I won't recognize a dangerous authority figure because they're 'normal' to me and that I'll automatically assume the way they're treating me is my fault, not theirs. Fawning is a problem because your priority is making everyone else happy, taking all the blame, and burying suffering with a smile and anxiety with 'helpfulness'. That's bad for anyone of any age, and can be fatal or lead to more abuse when you let someone hurt you because you genuinely believe they have the right and they'd stop if you were just better. It scares me to think of what would have happened if I *hadn't* struggled and my fawning slipped under the radar, because it's bad enough even with it addressed. My loved ones worry about me, but the constant comment through my childhood from teachers or other parents was 'she's so well behaved!' except for some of the most abusive who tried to say things like that my hearing loss was something I was deliberately doing *at* them to make *their* life harder. :/
@Theresia66
@Theresia66 Год назад
I'm an adult and only recently realised i do this
@samuelasanderinos1521
@samuelasanderinos1521 11 месяцев назад
@@ninjabgwriterthat’s a very well written comment. Thanks for sharing. Have you been able to tackle your focus?
@ninjabgwriter
@ninjabgwriter 11 месяцев назад
@@samuelasanderinos1521 I have, thank you so much for asking! Medication is a huge turning point in my ability to focus, and also learning the coping mechanisms that help me. The medication feels like a life vest, and the coping mechanisms are like learning to swim. What I've found works for me is online study in my home office, which is fairly visually minimalist with a few decorations, but a window nearby. Learning that 'looking like' I'm focusing and actually focusing are two different things helped me too, because a lot of my 'study behaviors' were based in trying not to have teachers blow up at me more than actually learning. I've got a spinny chair, a lot of light as it makes me feel more awake, and a huge bag of fidget toys, and now I know I need to move a lot as I study. I also have built playlists for myself when it's too quiet or I'm distracted by road noise (mostly instrumental since I notice lyrics distract me while studying). Taking breaks every hour or so to walk around for five or ten minutes helps a lot (I learned that most people actually need breaks and moving in conjunction fairly regularly to maintain optimal focus), and paying attention to eating and drinking enough in a day (I often don't recognize thirst and only realize I'm dehydrated when I get super sleepy). It's a lot of relearning how to listen to my brain and body and give myself what I need in the moment, like if my eyes are sliding out of focus and I'm struggling to listen, I usually need either to look out my window or to watch my glitter bottle or some other visual stimulation, rather than force myself to stare at a video I'm trying to watch as long as there's not crucial instruction being shown. I learned about floating attention from the How to ADHD youtube channel, how we have our main focus, but our brains are meant to multitask with paying attention to a much smaller task at the same time (floating attention) as a leftover survival thing from when we were like hunter gatherers, and with ADHD regulating focus is difficult, so our floating attention can be taken up by stuff that's distracting. But if we deliberately fill it with predictable, helpful input, we can focus on the main thing better and be less distracted. If I find myself super tense I need to move, if my eyes are unfocused I need something to look at, if I keep noticing tiny random sounds I need something to listen to. Generally learning how my brain works and how ADHD works has helped me form the main basis of my coping mechanisms and also greatly improved my mental and emotional health because I'm actually able to succeed in ways I never have before, and that's really encouraging and exciting! Sorry if I was a bit verbose in this comment, haha. I just figured I might as well leave some stuff that helped me in case anybody else who might need it happens to see. :)
@irespondtotheads7453
@irespondtotheads7453 Год назад
I'm 26 and display fawning behavior. This video made me reflect on the number one thing I was complimented on growing up, being "polite". Looking at it, that meant quiet and obedient. It was my mother's pride how "polite" I was.
@mx.menacing
@mx.menacing 11 месяцев назад
Same here, I wonder if it has anything to do with my BPD and GAD diagnosis.
@alexissey4023
@alexissey4023 11 месяцев назад
Same here as well, and I’m also 26.
@angelalovell5669
@angelalovell5669 11 месяцев назад
@@mx.menacing Oof, I reckon it might. Not that you asked, but I'm not a fan of BPD as a diagnosis. I've yet to come across a physician or any kind of mental health care practitioner that used it in a helpful way, rather than an excuse to blame a patient for all the trauma they have endured in life and not managed to sublimate into something socially acceptable. It appears to be applied to women more than men (what a shocker, medical misogyny in mental health care) and again, I've yet to come across an approach to BPD that was anything other than dismissive and blaming. I really, genuinely hope this opinion doesn't vibe with your experience at all. I wouldn't mind knowing the diagnosis does facilitate healing in some people. Because so far, the PD list just seems like an excuse not to treat patients with talking therapy, attention and time (in other words, money has to be spent) but imply that if they only worked hard enough on themselves and stopped being such an annoying dickhead, everything would be fine.
@pyao
@pyao 11 месяцев назад
@@angelalovell5669bpd as a dx is valuable information because mood stabilizers help it SO MUCH, but I agree it has negative connotations and people seem to get immediately weirded out by it… also with how comorbid it is with autism/adhd and cptsd I wonder how much those have to do with it as most of my major symptoms ended up ACTUALLY being caused by audhd or cptsd 🫠
@FallenSummer84
@FallenSummer84 11 месяцев назад
My exact childhood into adulthood.
@jemieculp6847
@jemieculp6847 Год назад
This is definitely one response that bears looking at from a safety perspective. Children that are extremely compliant (whether it is a trauma response or a personality trait) are in danger of being exploited by ill intentioned adults or by their peers. So it becomes really important to model and reinforce autonomy (especially body autonomy) with very compliant children. Teaching children to say "no" in many different types of situations and what to do when someone doesn't take no for an answer are important life lessons for every child, especially where safety is concerned.
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
Ty for adding in these considerations!
@littleloner1159
@littleloner1159 Год назад
This is something I struggle with deeply. The amount of dangerous situations I've been in and through because I freeze up when in danger and just fawn. Saying "no" is difficult enough as is, saying it when you feel unsafe and pressured is impossible. And thinking you need to comply also leads to not even noticing abusive relationships. (Not realising the reaction they have to you indicating you don't want to do something, and you not realising you shouldn't have to do things you don't want to just to have them stay with you) Thankfully I've learned later in life, but this behaviour can be incredibly dangerous as teenagers and adults. The ability to not consent is so incredibly important and it needs to be modelled. Especially to show what SHOULD happen when you say no. How others are supposed to respond when you say no.
@solitarelee6200
@solitarelee6200 11 месяцев назад
100%. When I was in 4th grade (so 9 years old) a classmate (ie ANOTHER 9 YEAR OLD!) noticed I had a tendency to say yes even to unreasonable requests, and it bothered her. She sat with me during snack for a week practicing me saying "no!" to unreasonable requests. I never did know that kid's parents, but they did such a good job with her that they successfully raised a second child thru her XD
@Ruthavecflute
@Ruthavecflute 11 месяцев назад
@@solitarelee6200 Wow. That's really insiteful for a nine year old
@rosendove
@rosendove 11 месяцев назад
Hello, that's me. I got so pissed because my dad in effect groomed me into being the perfect victim. The more damage I uncover, the more frustrated I feel about him.
@yaboicolleen
@yaboicolleen 8 месяцев назад
I especially like the part about celebrating their strengths that aren't about how helpful or agreeable they are. It's easy to forget that you have worth in ways other than what you can do for others.
@SomeSortOfWay
@SomeSortOfWay 11 месяцев назад
I am a fawn responder. My parents found me especially easy to parent in comparison to my siblings. I was also taken advantage of as an adult because of this behavior. And a lot of failed relationships. And suicide attempts. Because I never let anyone know how much I was suffering. Keep the peace. Expect the worse to happen if I told anyone my suffering. I've only really now started letting people know how they impact me. Or saying "no." I appreciate the work that you do to ensure these children learn to advocate for themselves. It is so so so important for their own safety.
@EeveelutionStorm
@EeveelutionStorm 5 месяцев назад
Genuinely... how do you do this?
@yorkshirerose146
@yorkshirerose146 Год назад
Thank you for this, our adopted daughter does this (only been here 6 weeks) it's so handy to show people to explain what she's doing!
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
hopefully others will become more aware of this so we can help support kids early on
@yorkshirerose146
@yorkshirerose146 Год назад
@@foster.parenting definitely. So many people think fight, flight, freeze and are unaware of the fawning. I will be showing this yo a few people who are close to us and our munchkin.
@ad8397
@ad8397 Год назад
My inner child really wants to have you around to feel safe. You do a great job.
@waffles3629
@waffles3629 Год назад
Same. This videos help heal my inner child and help me learn how to better interact with children.
@xrockangelx
@xrockangelx 11 месяцев назад
Yep. I'm 36 and doing IFS therapy for ADHD, OCD, emetophobia, social anxiety, and cptsd. I watch for myself and my inner child too. I don't have any kids, nor do many people I see regularly. I like them okay but (despite being the eldest of 4) am pretty anxious around them because they feel unpredictable to me, and I'm scared of accidentally upsetting their parents. These videos are also helpful for learning about how to communicate with kids -even just people, really.
@ad8397
@ad8397 11 месяцев назад
@@xrockangelx sometimes all it takes is one kind person to promote real change. I like to think if child services had been alerted I’d have been taken out of my home and wouldn’t have suffered. I like to imagine that there was a Laura who would’ve taught me about feeling safe. I would have thrived in her care! It makes my heart happy knowing she makes each child in her care feel loved and accepted. 🥰
@cheesybookworm
@cheesybookworm 11 месяцев назад
I was never in foster care but grew up with abuse at home. I wish even one adult in my life had recognized this and not just praised me for being helpful and a "good kid." Thanks for educating people on this.
@therealopaartist
@therealopaartist 11 месяцев назад
I never knew how much of my behavior was made up of trauma responses until a couple years ago. I was always taking care of others (often neglecting myself and my needs/wants because me wanting something for JUST myself was selfish), was a constant people pleaser, avoided conflict at all costs, I was constantly guilt tripped if I didn’t want to do something/give something up, threats or violence and threats that my family would abandon me on the side of the road, comments about my appearance, etc… Not to mention almost everyone on my family has had some sort of addiction. Then I had a mental breakdown my sophomore year of highschool and it was like my personality had a factory reset. I started taking care of myself and ONLY myself, became way more suspicious of people who were ‘just being nice’ because I assumed they just wanted something, I never accepted compliments about me, and I was generally just very closed off since. And I’m not even adopted or a foster kid. This is my biological family.
@el-xq1ct
@el-xq1ct Год назад
putting them in pretend situations where they HAVE to say no is actually such a good idea!
@uniayang
@uniayang Год назад
This video resonated with me so much. I am in my mid-thirties and I am just slowly learning to voice my opinion. Unfortunately, my mom used to get mad because I grew and needed new clothes (we were poor) and this had a big impact on me. I always admired ppl who can fearlessly express theor wishes. Good luck to everyone who is trying to put an end to being pleasant all the time! You can do it!
@Romanticoutlaw
@Romanticoutlaw 11 месяцев назад
god forbid the child she brought into this world grow in size! That's outrageous, I'm so sorry
@lilmama28
@lilmama28 9 месяцев назад
Both my best friends are the type of people to make themselves at home wherever they go. They aren’t afraid or embarrassed to ask for food/drink/etc. they both have no problem telling nice people no. I’ve always judged them for this, thinking of them as almost rude, while simultaneously being jealous/admiring their “courage” but to them it doesn’t take courage it’s just who they are. This video made me realize I’m the one with the problem, not them 😩😂
@mindihunt1930
@mindihunt1930 Год назад
What do you do when you don't feel that a child will be safe after reunification? I know you probably talk to the social worker, etc. but there must be situations where you aren't given a choice and you know you're probably sending a child back to a bad situation. This is what keeps me from wanting to become a foster parent...I don't know that I could support reunification if the child was afraid to go back or I suspected that the parents were just putting on a show temporarily to get them back (before I get attacked in the comments, I support reunification, I just know that it's not always in the best interest of a child...I see lots and lots of comments on these videos from former foster kids who were sent back to their parents and experienced trauma)
@Robynhoodlum
@Robynhoodlum 11 месяцев назад
Important note about fawning. It not only reinforces this people pleasing behavior, it also desensitizes the child to compliments. If the child is already displaying anxious behavior (like I did) they may start to question the sincerity of compliments. Part of the agreeableness may be a “humbleness” that is actually a lack of self worth. If a child brushes off compliments or says things are “no problem” they may just not know how to accept a compliment, or they think that you can’t be sincere because they aren’t worth the compliment. I wish I could’ve had someone like you in my life as a child. I acted exactly the way this child did due to early trauma and due to continued emotional abuse, I’m only just now learning to stand up for myself as an adult.
@VioletEmerald
@VioletEmerald Год назад
Yeah i learned about the Fawn 4th F of Fight/Flight/Freeze trauma responses around maybe 4 or 5 years ago when i was 28 or 29 years old, some great blog posts on people pleasing as a trauma response opened my eyes to it and i had so much of that ingrained in me still at that point after being raised by an abusive mother who displayed narcissistic traits and who likely had borderline personality disorder. I was conditioned from such a young age to try my best to make her happy because her alcoholic/ narcissistic/BPD rage could get triggered by the littlest thing and ruin hours of the day. I love how you're giving us concrete things we can do to help these children. I want to be a foster parent and it's so good to keep in mind all the little ways we help model that people pleasing isn't the only way, prioritize what actually matters to them, and help empower them to make easier decisions than just the people pleasing default ones. And I'm proud of myself for knowing how far I've come in healing from my own trauma that i feel like i can much more easily day No to things and have reasonable boundaries these days. Not be afraid to be honest.
@loredudeari
@loredudeari Год назад
It's a trauma response? I do this...
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
Here is some more info you are interested: www.communityservices.act.gov.au/children-and-families/adoption-kinship-and-foster-care/therapeutic-resources/staying-safe-the-fawn-response I hope you are able to find support in your life!
@sarah.s.flanagan
@sarah.s.flanagan 6 месяцев назад
​@@foster.parenting This link currently requires a sign-in just so you know
@darkcreatureinadarkroom1617
@darkcreatureinadarkroom1617 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for showing that sometimes the best response to fawning behavior is to resist the urge to push back against it and just accept it with gratitude. Whether the person in question is a foster child or not, or even an adult, the last thing they need is to hear how they are still getting it wrong no matter how desperately they try to get it right. Instead, what they need is to be seen and validated and have their contributions be acknowledged and appreciated; the rest will come in time as they claim the space they need to rebuild themselves up.
@SartorialDragon
@SartorialDragon 11 месяцев назад
I love that you are seeing this ❤❤❤ As a kid I never learned to state my wishes clearly. It really is a valuable skill i'm practicing now!
@SpookyBlueNStuff
@SpookyBlueNStuff 11 месяцев назад
"She was raised so well!" "She's so polite!" "She's so easy!" I wanted to end myself the whole time. I'm 21 and finally trying to be real for the first time. I cannot even process or feel real love at this time, but I am working hard every day to change that. Do not become a parent if you aren't ready. Please.
@anniecalhoun
@anniecalhoun 8 месяцев назад
You are amazing. Thank you for the way in which you share and lift up how adults can help children - I'm a teacher and many of your tips help with students who have had past trauma!
@jessiehomans8309
@jessiehomans8309 Месяц назад
I didn’t learn about fawn response until I was in my 20’s and went through a bad breakup with an abuser, and found out I was doing it constantly. It’s taken a lot of therapy as an adult to break that response. It’s good to see people discussing it, when we help break that response in traumatized children, we help them avoid taking that behavior into adulthood! I wish I’d had someone to tell me it was okay to rebel a little I can’t wait to see the other 3 F’s!
@eatingonlyapples21
@eatingonlyapples21 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this. It's not foster care, but I immediately saw a child I care for. I'm going to do more research and make sure I'm doing the best I can for that child.
@whoyawith9494
@whoyawith9494 2 месяца назад
Wow... I am so glad you (and others) are there for these children. 💜
@anitadenton9678
@anitadenton9678 9 месяцев назад
You are brilliant. Thank you for such a down to earth and “real” insight into fostering. I would feel very safe with you as a foster kid. Thank you for being you ❤️
@FaeriePrincex
@FaeriePrincex 11 месяцев назад
I always felt I had to make up for my existence by being helpful to others, and people recognizing that it's a trauma response that needs help rather than a positive thing for a child to be is life-changing
@MikeHuckleberry88
@MikeHuckleberry88 11 месяцев назад
I was a burden to my mother so she chose drugs... then I was a burden to the state.. I failed indianas independent living program because I was depressed. I wasn't complicit so I was abandoned. What you're doing is so so very important. I have 3 amazing kids that I am raising and I want to break the curse.. I hope I can be strong like you. Idk whatvyou have been through but I'm very glad you exist and I know those kids are too
@ladulcemusica
@ladulcemusica Год назад
God bless you and your work. ❤
@staceyhunt6769
@staceyhunt6769 11 месяцев назад
I don't foster but my oldest (Nearly 6) is autistic and subsequent has had a bit of trauma and has been forced into overwhelmingly stressful situations due to main-stream schooling (Pulling him out this week to go back to homeschooling, which was always what I wanted to do but was told he couldn't get any support or official diagnosis until he was in school. They let him get horribly hurt a lot and I'm filing a complaint). As soon as he would find out his main teachers were there etc or realise no amount of upset or protest could get him out of what is, to him, a very traumatic environment (Added to by his meltdowns or aggressive outbursts leaving him with crippling remorse and guilt later) he would fawn. Like a wave comes over him and everything is a yes, he is so quiet and like he is barely there. The school point blank refused to see it (Or any of his needs, had to fight tooth and nail!). Your videos are really helpful to me, they help me know how to try and handle him a bit better in a lot of his situations. I'm his mother and have been with him his whole life, so I have a little bit of an advantage with some of it. But so much of your content has totally changed things for us. Thank you so much. ❤
@laartje24
@laartje24 Год назад
Thanks for making this video, it is very helpful. I have to do a bit of translation as I have a teen at my hands, but I am definitely gonna consider those.
@dylnpickl846
@dylnpickl846 8 месяцев назад
This whole video hits hard, but that first one is almost every day with my loving partners. I stopped voicing my needs for so long, I cant remember them. I trust my partners to hear me, but I cant hear myself after growing up in fawn response. Why would I know if I want quesadillas or not? What do YOU want? With a lot of therapy and related efforts its slowly getting better, but my lack of knowing my own desires has been a source of conflict in my relationships many times bc its often viewed as unwillingness to share. But I genuinely struggle to know myself.
@tennillewilson5077
@tennillewilson5077 Год назад
You are amazing.
@M1NDCR4WL3R
@M1NDCR4WL3R Год назад
I have so much love for you❤❤❤❤
@sakura22_Mikoto
@sakura22_Mikoto 4 месяца назад
Why is that slghtly calling out my behaviour aroudn my parents? I grew up with a samll voice sure but I useally got talked down to or tooled "Maybe" wich woudl usealyl be a no. Anytime my parents were haveing and arguemtn I woudl just remove myself form the room adn hide in my room. It wasn'T a good envierment for me. It made it so that anytime I feel someone is upset that I go "Sorry. mode" instently, even tho I had nothing to do with that issue. I am finding my voice and learnign to stnad up for myslef, plus slowly droping other bad behaviours I adopted to jsut seame "More agreeing to others."
@virgoyogini5377
@virgoyogini5377 7 месяцев назад
I feel like I am being reparented appropriately watching this. Wow.
@queeny5613
@queeny5613 Год назад
This is great
@danysanerd2383
@danysanerd2383 11 месяцев назад
🫶
@claireoverly4858
@claireoverly4858 Год назад
I was a fawner and still struggle w ppl pleasing as an adult. Something I do with kids is stray from asking things that require them to say yes or no and giving both of the options as sentences so they can easily just repeat the sentence I said instead of yes or no. For example: “would you like some alone time or would you like me to sit with you.” Then they can just say “alone time” instead of me asking “can I sit with you?” And them not being able to find the word no. I couldn’t find the word no I always said “I don’t care” and my family would make fun of me for it.
@waffles3629
@waffles3629 Год назад
Yep. And it means they don't have to say no to you, especially if they just met you. I tried to avoid yes/no questions with my swim lesson kids. Especially cause I generally knew next to nothing about home life for any of my lesson kids. Sure, I'd learn if they had siblings, pets, 73 plushies.... but that doesn't really tell you much about the atmosphere. I especially tried to avoid "Did you understand that?" with younger kids, because a lot of them would say yes even if they didn't. I tried to go with some version of "Do you want to try it or do you want me to show you again?" which worked way better. And I never gave kids choices they didn't actually have.
@Mushroom321-
@Mushroom321- Год назад
That sounds really tough what you went through & thats really thoughtful of your solution. Giving 2 options. 😃👍😼
@lettus143
@lettus143 11 месяцев назад
I find myself struggling as an adult to find what I really like, from activities, hobbies, fashion styles, ect, because of my 'agreeability' and 'not caring either way' as an adult. My children are so much more vocal about their interests, likes, and dislikes, so I guess that's a win.
@RoseQuartz-fe4xv
@RoseQuartz-fe4xv 11 месяцев назад
The last part- whenever my parents ask me for an opinion, I always say "I don't care", and they've made it into a joke. They basically assume I don't care anymore and talk about how I "go with the flow"
@PikachuSandw1ch
@PikachuSandw1ch 2 месяца назад
This is helpful.
@seasnailsplatoon762
@seasnailsplatoon762 Год назад
Fawn response can be so tricky to recognize as a substitute teacher. These kids are usually identified by the regular teacher as "A great help! Trustworthy! You can ask them for anything!" in the notes. But there is such a thing as an unusually/problematically compliant kindergartener. A child who will ALWAYS relinquish a toy with a smile if it looks like another might want it, a child who uses their free time to clean up others' mess, a child who tries to hug anyone (including adults) who seems upset... I don't really know what to do in these situations. I try and help (e.g. "Excuse me Kid Y, it is still Kid X's turn with that toy", "Kid X, since you cleaned up your spot so fast, why don't you come sit on the rug and pick out a book you like?" etc) but at the same time, it isn't really enforcing THEIR boundaries, but MY expectations of what their behavior should be... I just want them to worry about normal 5 year old things, at least while they're under my care. Edit: It's even trickier to recognize the older the child is, because our society and education system prizes compliance. For preteens and teenagers, I let them know they have free time (within certain parameters) and to let me pick up the room/help other students/stack the books/whatever.
@angelalovell5669
@angelalovell5669 11 месяцев назад
Damn, you know what you're talking about. Every diagnostic thing or trauma/neglect warning sign my teachers seemed to see validated them giving me a hard time, because of exactly what you said about compliance. I suspect you would have treated me like a human and it would have helped. Onya for being a good adult.
@rosendove
@rosendove 11 месяцев назад
As someone like this, what isn't touched on is that doing these things brought genuine happiness and joy. I think little kids imitate adults naturally and seek to please adults. So behaving this way was encouraged by NOT having some crazy reaction. I felt safe, on their good side. I got really good at not being a nuisance myself and then learning how to anticipate their needs so that other things wouldn't set them off as well. Basically spent my childhood learning how to cater to everyone else that I never learned who I was. I didn't make many requests because I never got to figure out what my preferences were. I remember being very confused by an adult who tried to get me to make a choice, but my preference was whichever is less of a burden.
@sparklypoet1454
@sparklypoet1454 8 месяцев назад
@@rosendove OMG I was exactly the same. Exactly. Especially the constant observation and anticipation of their next need. I'd make sure it was sotred. Pleasing people and being on their good side, keeps you safe.
@meredithingram9384
@meredithingram9384 Год назад
“Your needs matter to me.” Wow that hit me surprisingly hard.
@cottoncandycloud2907
@cottoncandycloud2907 Год назад
Same. I can’t think of anyone who’s told me something similar to that.
@tymondabrowski12
@tymondabrowski12 Год назад
​​@@cottoncandycloud2907your needs (should) matter to you, and you'll find people for whom they will matter too (often they might not say that but you'll eventually see it yourself). In fact I'd recommend avoiding getting into more than casual relationships with anyone for whom it's not true (actually even if they say that, they might lie, look more for behaviours). Quick protip for life 👍
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹
@Izabela-ek5nh
@Izabela-ek5nh 11 месяцев назад
Same. We have to say it to ourselves 😊
@tiobe73
@tiobe73 11 месяцев назад
yeah, another of those random moments where I realize - there might be some trauma there? or is it normal, does everyone get teary-eyed at that sentence? 1:39
@sandydog426
@sandydog426 Год назад
Thank you!! I work with kids with trauma, and one of the things I run into the most when I ask for updates is when a teacher/parent/caregiver says "they don't give me any trouble!" I have to provide psychoeducation on why that's not always a good thing; children and teenagers should be giving you a little bit of "trouble." It's how they learn to establish healthy boundaries while respecting others' boundaries and rules, communicate wants and needs, express opinions, etc. It's vital to make sure kids know that their mental health is important aside from anything to do with whether or not they're being disruptive or having more noticeable behavioral challenges. A lot of times, other professionals and caregivers don't think to get a child help until their challenges inconvenience the adults in their life, and that's not right.
@waffles3629
@waffles3629 Год назад
Wow, that explains why I basically never got in trouble at school. And the few times I did get in trouble I either hadn't even done the thing I was accused of, someone else did it to me and was accusing me of doing it to them, or they conveniently left out the circumstances of why I did what I did which completely flipped the scenario (aka I wasn't attacking someone, I was defending myself). It just wasn't worth double trouble so I tried to just be a quiet blob in the corner.
@sandydog426
@sandydog426 Год назад
@@waffles3629 When people grow up with a healthy sense of boundaries, social skills, and social rewards (like having friends and positive relationships) they usually decide that the rewards are worth the risks that come with that gamble--i.e., you might end up in a situation where you get in trouble for something, but generally, it's worth that risk to engage in positive social interactions. When we are never rewarded for our attempt at creating positive social connections or interactions, we eventually decide that it's not worth the risk, and that we'd rather just sit in the corner and not draw attention to ourselves.
@npursuit
@npursuit Год назад
🎯 teens give pushback. This is normal. My husband and I took in hus great niece and the complaints about the child seemed like typical teen behaviors.
@darkcreatureinadarkroom1617
@darkcreatureinadarkroom1617 11 месяцев назад
One day I'm going fly one of those banner displays that says "PSA: niceness is not supposed to be a child's most salient quality. If that is the case for yours, get yourself into therapy ASAP"
@_Julie_Bee
@_Julie_Bee 11 месяцев назад
My personal experience as a cptsd child with fawning was that I didn't get in trouble with school, or adults in general. Until I've met friends who we're doing "bad" stuff and just wanted to please them. That led to drugs, drinking etc. And it became the story of my life basically. 🙃
@honeyand_sunshine
@honeyand_sunshine Год назад
I am not a foster kid but seeing an adult treat a child’s needs with respect like is something that was never shown to me growing up. Now, as a mother myself, I almost get a weird thrill when my kids disagree or tell me they don’t like/want something because I neeeeeeever felt safe to say stuff like that! agreeable children make adults feel better, but it’s almost always a sign the child is worried something will happen if they disagree.
@angelalovell5669
@angelalovell5669 11 месяцев назад
You sound like an absolutely top tier parent, and a fantastic mum.
@honeyand_sunshine
@honeyand_sunshine 11 месяцев назад
That’s the nicest thing a stranger has ever said to me! Thank you!
@rosendove
@rosendove 11 месяцев назад
It reminds me of those super mature and responsible kids or the quiet "well behaved" kids. For a long time society saw children as little more than small adults and in a lot of ways really forced the kids to stifle themselves. We're getting better at it.
@nobodyimportant1968
@nobodyimportant1968 11 месяцев назад
thank you for writing this. stuff like this always gives me hope i can parent just like that someday despite it all ;v; /gen /pos u rock!! i hope you have a rad day :)
@Laura-kl7vi
@Laura-kl7vi 11 месяцев назад
As other's said, good for you for parenting differently. I have to add, their are children who are legitimately born very agreeable. It's not rare. I suppose they care about other people's feeling so much that they agree because that's the most important thing to them-agreeing is more important to them not because they fear repercussions, but it's their temperament. I deeply know a few adults like this as well.
@molamolalaaa2968
@molamolalaaa2968 Год назад
I’m 40 years old and I just realised I’ve had the fawn response ALL MY LIFE! Omg. No wonder I feel the way I feel now in life. Your videos are enlightening.
@MaratheSamoyed
@MaratheSamoyed Год назад
Same.
@seajelly2421
@seajelly2421 11 месяцев назад
Same here too. This is like therapy. WOW.
@kindauncool
@kindauncool 11 месяцев назад
How do you feel?
@laurao3274
@laurao3274 8 месяцев назад
I had never heard of this before. Now I'm starting to wonder about some of the behaviors I displayed in childhood, and to some extent as an adult. I've got a lot to think about.
@Maria.Mirabella
@Maria.Mirabella Год назад
Ooooh... now I understand why my step-father always tried to stop me from vacuuming the house. I always thought he was mad at me for cleaning "incorrectly"… Whenever I feel uncomfortable with someone from my family I always turn to cleaning something in the house. Guess it does make me feel safer, as it makes the person "happier" and therefore our relationship "safer".
@marissavillalobos
@marissavillalobos Год назад
I was not a foster child but my mom was very verbally, emotionally, mentally, and sometimes physically abusive to me. Watching this video was like looking into a mirror. I realize that I've been fawning for the past 10 years and still heavily struggle with it as an adult. People don't realize how much of a toll fawning can take on your well-being.
@s.a.w5493
@s.a.w5493 Год назад
Some really overt signals of fawning: constantly apologizing (try to never express annoyance about it), anxiety that really sticks with them after even a stranger expresses even mild frustration or irritation
@pruedence110588
@pruedence110588 Год назад
As an adult who grew up in fawn mode, I still struggle almost daily to make my voice heard and feel comfortable saying no and displaying boundaries. Thank you for sharing this
@thisorthat7626
@thisorthat7626 Год назад
@pruedence110588, I wonder if it would help if you have a friend who you could role play with and practice saying "No". I think that sometimes we need to hear ourself saying the word to start feeling our power. We should teach every child how to say "no". Though I also think that women have a harder time saying no because of society's expectations that we be agreeable. Sending you strength and love to help you set boundaries. Blessings.
@starryjune4089
@starryjune4089 Год назад
I understand this instinct so much. I never had a tramatic childhood, but with a household where I was the oldest, and I needed to be the helpful because my siblings couldn’t, I never got the opertunity to learn how and when to say no. As a young adult I'm learning that now and hopefully, I'll be able to recognize that in myself so that when I foster or birth kids, I won't pass sown my same habits ❤
@Britt3334
@Britt3334 Год назад
This gives me so much insight into my own childhood trauma. I would happily agree to whatever so no one would get mad which led to others having a false sense or my likes and dislikes including myself. When faced with a decision I honestly didn’t know what I wanted. These videos are really helpful to me as a parent as well ❤
@Raven74408
@Raven74408 Год назад
My mom would ask me questions and then get upset if i didn't choose the answer she expected. Recently she tried to pull this on me as an adult and i straight up told her "Why even ask me then if I don't really have a choice?"
@laa4438
@laa4438 11 месяцев назад
Mine would either get angry or just repeat the question in different ways until I agreed
@JoyfulNerd400
@JoyfulNerd400 Год назад
This is my reaction STILL as an adult who grew up in a violent, volatile and aggressive environment
@katielear6570
@katielear6570 Год назад
Oh wow. I’ve noticed this but never had a name for it. I can see myself doing some of these things but my sister even more. She was always the people pleaser but myself I would shut down and basically see myself as an empty “shell” so I could keep busy and keep my head down and do the work that needed to be done. I still do this sometimes but I’m starting to become more confident and self-assured, although I do revert to this method when anxious. Thanks for sharing Laura!
@NWednesdayQuansah
@NWednesdayQuansah Год назад
I struggle with this a lot from growing up in a family where there was emotional abuse/neglect. Now, as an adult, it's really hard to unlearn. Thank you for making a video about it. ❤️
@Speireata4
@Speireata4 Год назад
This is very, very helpful. I struggle with similar issues, although not to this extend. Sometimes you just learn that your feelings don't matter, so you always pretend to agree, because that is easier. And sometimes being nice and friendly and agreeable is the only way to sooth someone whose wrath would hurt you otherwise. So you learn, for years. It is so difficult to unlearn that stuff as an adult.
@pufpufpuffin
@pufpufpuffin Год назад
Struggled with untreated childhood trauma for 35 years before reading about fawning and complex ptsd. All kids deserve to be seen like this. You are the adult I always wished for, I hope you understand the difference you’re making.
@tinaskwierczynski8599
@tinaskwierczynski8599 Год назад
I really love these videos. Theyre even good for people who arent foster parents but might interact with children where you dont know their past or who have been in unsafe enviorments in the past. Heck, theyre pretty good parenting advice on how to make sure your own children feel safe and loved and respect autonomy if you come from a situation where good parenting wasnt always modeled.
@kathydurow6814
@kathydurow6814 Год назад
Always good to model good parenting whenever you are able. I'm in my 60s so you can guess my parenting was authoritarian & physical punishment the norm; kids consent/needs/autonomy not really at the forefront. I tried to do better myself as a parent but it's difficult when you've never seen it in action. So glad more of this is accessible these days.
@itsmarthai
@itsmarthai Год назад
Your videos have helped me reparent myself more than anything else and I've tried a lot of things. Thank you, for real, thank you ❤
@resveries_
@resveries_ Год назад
someone at work told me to stop saying thank you so much 😔 literally called out for being too polite… it’s weird-i’m either totally unafraid of confrontation and speaking my mind or absolutely incapable of expressing my wants and asking for anything. idk how i can be both at once but here we are
@Mirin_the_Witch
@Mirin_the_Witch Год назад
For me, the difference is if particular circumstances bring me back to my childhood or not. It's like my brain has an off switch, making it impossible to even think enough to disagree. I just start smiling a lot, agree with everything and get really sleepy. I often don't even have the mental capacity for inner conflict between being scared and wanting something else - I'm just not online, my brain is a fuzzy cloud. It took me ages to realize where that "brain fog" was coming from. And like you, I'm pretty good with conflict, there's just some fairly specific triggers - some pretty bizarre, such as perfume, some more grounded, such as the attitude of the person I'm speaking with. After I realized what is happening, I started untangling that mess and got a lot better about it. The downside is that now I often get angry instead because I feel pressured and coerced and don't immediately realize it's not coming from the other person. Not as socially acceptable, but still healthier, I think.
@jaysmitty1376
@jaysmitty1376 Год назад
Over here literally crying because I didn't get to have a caregiver lik you
@Wesenskern
@Wesenskern Год назад
This is sooooo important. Thanks, Laura. ❤
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
Ty for watching! 💛
@marge2548
@marge2548 11 месяцев назад
As very often, I find your videos very helpful in a general sense, not only for the foster parent situation. I was informed, when my youngest kid was in kindergarden, that he had immense problems in saying "No" or expressing his opinion, and did his best to agree to everyone, as conflicts really tended to drag him down. We worked on that... however, he still tends to (seemingly) "play along", the go on and do his own thing, not telling anyone. Or outright lying if he is worried he might be in trouble. or just in order not to worry _us_ (Part of the problem is certainly that one of our other kids is special needs, and there is a lot of worrying and stress involved at times.) I tried to figure out how to find a solution for this for a rather long time, but was not very successful. This video gives sound advice on how to establish a better communication and help him express what he really wants w/o inadvertently putting more pressure on him. I really want to thank you for that.
@myheartismadeofstars
@myheartismadeofstars Год назад
Welcome back to another episode of: Is This a Personality Quirk or a Symptom!!?? Though in my case i think its both. I can be very enthusiastic about helping out with chores (especially cooking and doing laundry) but sometimes my fawn response reacts too.
@emilyb5557
@emilyb5557 Год назад
I love this so much!! This is useful inner child parenting guidance too. I definitely did this when I was in kinship foster situation and it causes some resentment with kids because it came across as being a "suck up" or showing them up. I think it was a combo of fawning and genuinely being used to doing adult things like making meals tidying up etc etc.
@emilyb5557
@emilyb5557 6 месяцев назад
And now I'm back here re watching because we have a teen refugee living with us needing support & I see fawning signs.
@lilbatz
@lilbatz Год назад
Holy hell. I feel seen! Not surprising as I was a parentified kid.
@RaisingMyWildflowers
@RaisingMyWildflowers 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for recognizing this and not taking advantage of their agreeableness. This really is awful when it goes unchecked. When I was a teenager, I tried to get up to clean the hospital bed and floor right after giving birth (placenta not out yet) as I felt horrible for making a huge mess. (A nurse and my husband stopped me lol) I didn't realize why I was like that until a few years ago.
@susana3716
@susana3716 Год назад
As a worker I love these videos and think they would be so helpful for foster parents I work with. Fostering is such a difficult job and you make such accurate videos. As I go to visit my kids in care, I hope my visits don't trigger them. However, I know the kids get tired of answering questions and just want to live life.
@SarafinaSummers
@SarafinaSummers Год назад
Oh, shit. I do this far more than I'd like to admit.
@elizabethbrickey5043
@elizabethbrickey5043 Год назад
Thank you for this. It actually made me step back and appreciate how my son is comfortable enough to be head strong and opinionated.
@lizzalkula376
@lizzalkula376 Год назад
I don't know if I fawn a lot I just like to be helpful. I had a dental procedure done earlier in the week so that I had to request to not be put in our back room at work (I work in online grocery pickup and being in the backroom means lifting more heavy items, needing to talk loudly, needing to be quick, etc. and I wasn't able to do that just yet). It has taken me years to feel like I can advocate for myself. I did have one coworker yesterday being in the back ask me if I could give him his 15 minute break and I had to tell him "I'm sorry, I can't be in the back today". He was okay with it but I felt so bad for telling him no. That I should have done it since we were slow and it was *only* 15 minutes. That maybe I should have explained it more. Even though I was specifically even told not to "over do it" at work. I still like to be helpful and sometimes when I'm doing something and struggling I hardly ask for help because I feel like people should just see it and offer the help (I understand internally that that's not how people are. That they can't know everything that's happening and if they see me working they're not going to go "oh she looks like she needs help" if they think of it at all beyond wondering when their own lunch is). But then when someone does come over to help and I am doing fine and don't really need help I feel all prickly and defensive. It's such a strange mindset for me.
@chirpieone9193
@chirpieone9193 11 месяцев назад
been there, do that same pattern, getting better...
@sparxso9122
@sparxso9122 Год назад
*sweating in recognition*
@andreevaillancourt2177
@andreevaillancourt2177 11 месяцев назад
Oh h*ll yeah, this is for real. I went through the system back in the dark ages, when everyone didn't believe in empathy and foster kids were just a bunch of trouble makers that needed more discipline and chores to straighten them out. Meanwhile I had a European 🇨🇦 bio-mother who hated me, because I was mixed race, and had the nerve to loo lighter than her and used to drug me and sell me to guys to get her gambling money. But hey, it was me who was the problem. Thanks for doing these videos. You're what I always wished I had back in the day.
@sellyourhomenowbook
@sellyourhomenowbook 11 месяцев назад
I am so sorry at all you suffered. Praying for your healing and peace. Dear Father God in heaven, please heal restore and pour out peace on this wonderful person. In Jesus name amen.
@beansinacrocsshoe
@beansinacrocsshoe Год назад
Thank you for sharing this, this is so important!! This trauma response often goes unseen and even enabled because it's seen as the child (or adult) just being nice or helpful when it's actually coming from a bad place.
@nova_chr0n0
@nova_chr0n0 11 месяцев назад
I never realized that me hugging my parents constantly when I'm nervous is a trauma response. What she described is exactly how I feel when I do it.
@2ctheocean
@2ctheocean Год назад
This is always the trauma response that breaks my heart the most.
@ThisQuietStorm
@ThisQuietStorm 11 месяцев назад
I was like this as a kid and I think it’s because my dad was so frightening at times in his behavior and actions… thank you for advocating for children. I have learned a lot from your channel for my work as a caregiver and it also has helped me with my own inner child work.
@passaggioalivello
@passaggioalivello Год назад
Yes, it's me.
@foster.parenting
@foster.parenting Год назад
❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹
@thethespian12
@thethespian12 Год назад
Wow. What a healer you are ❤️‍🩹
@abi-94uW
@abi-94uW 11 месяцев назад
The way this made me cry as an adult who still engages in these fawning responses 😭 Thank god for my therapist teaching me to reparent myself. It's a long process but I'm done with being exploited by Ill intentioned people. It's so easy for them to do because I have such a hard time saying no. Best to start this work early and not in your 20s
@TheActualLiz
@TheActualLiz Год назад
Wow. Your videos just made me realize I developed a pretty serious faun reflex as a kid. It was a protective measure at the time. But yeah, it can cause a lot of problems as an adult. Thanks for making content that heals both adults and kids. ❤
@SueEmery-pq8tb
@SueEmery-pq8tb 11 месяцев назад
Yup. Fawning is my trauma response. As a young teenage girl it led me to burn out. Now that i'm a mom it actually does my soul so much good to see my kiddo feel comfortable to disagree with me.
@valtoton2982
@valtoton2982 11 месяцев назад
You are a hero to so many! PLEASE keep spreading your positive wealth of know! It's priceless 🤗
@cryptiecreep
@cryptiecreep 11 месяцев назад
I'm someone who has a fawn response and tends to just. Apologize and cower all the time and I wish more people recognized it as trauma instead of thinking I'm just "so sweet!" It feels awful being seen like that by something that distresses and hurts you
@angelalovell5669
@angelalovell5669 11 месяцев назад
Laura, giving us directions on how to reparent ourselves without even meaning to... I love that what you do helps children now, and grown up children who could have used help sooner. Thanks for Being.
@autumnsprite
@autumnsprite 11 месяцев назад
I tend to be very agreeable because of a mix of my personality and a slight trauma response, and I'm working on unlearning this behavior. It doesnt help that a few people in my life are less than understanding of my budding ability to say no :(
@ichorveinss
@ichorveinss 11 месяцев назад
I'm a survivor of the system and an adult who now is being treated for CPTSD/DID/other trauma based disorders. At 16 when I was being flung between different fosters like a hot potato, the first thing I would do in every house, on my very first night there before even asking to see my room, would be to vaccum the shared spaces of the house. It was a chore I could do confidently and all I wanted was to make my fosters like me so that I could avoid conflict. At best my foster would just allow it without questioning me, at worst they would take advantage by making me take on EVERY chore of the house so I never had free time (unreasonable things like cleaning spaces I don't use or cleaning a shared space several times a day) Basically Ive been through some shit in general and with fosters I admit I don't watch your every upload but sometimes when I need the reminder that people like you exist who go out of their way to empathize with traumatized children, I always come back to this channel
@4Leonardo
@4Leonardo 11 месяцев назад
I’m crying my eyes out right now.. Thank you nice lady for making a fawn response video for trauma responses because I didn’t really know what it was until now and seeing that I’ve used the fawn response since I was as young as a toddler and still am, it’s kind of a life realization, thank you though 👍
@Yaltaforma
@Yaltaforma 11 месяцев назад
God, I’m 20 and I still can’t get rid of this fawning. It just leaves whoever I’m talking to weirded out, and me completely exhausted and unsatisfied. But hey, at least my parents brag about how much of a “good girl” I was as a child.
@JeremyCanned
@JeremyCanned 11 месяцев назад
Wow, this is incredibly informative. I didn't know the name for this response before, but it's something that I've come to realize I did constantly as a child (and still do, although I'm a bit better at recognizing it now). I wish all the adults in my life hadn't praised me for how polite, obedient, and I helpful I was, because the truth is they couldn't recognize how much I just wanted help to deal with all the darkness in my life. But I was a "good" kid, and so no one ever thought I was struggling with anything. Now I realize I spent my entire childhood with no identity, feeling miserable and disconnected, and I never developed the skills necessary for adulthood. At least now I'm learning how to be more compassionate towards myself and establish new, healthier habits. Channels like these are so vital, not just for foster parents but really for anyone who wants the cycle of abuse and trauma to end with them. I don't know if I'll ever have children, but if I do, I want them to know that saying "no" is perfectly fine, and experiencing negative emotions is not something we should supress, but rather work through.
@alexbaker6435
@alexbaker6435 11 месяцев назад
I grew up doing this and never had any idea that it was this response. I remember the feeling (and still struggly with it) of feeling like I was going to be kicked out at any moment after leaving my dad's (he was schizophrenic). I now STRUGGLE with setting boundaries and feeling uncomfortable asking for even water at a strangers house for fear of being a burden on them. I now have a disability that does not help the burden complex either
@dawn8293
@dawn8293 11 месяцев назад
Convenient children =/= healthy children I was a very convenient child. My parents are great, but I don't think they realized how much they taught me that I was only emotionally safe in my home if I fulfilled expectations and was a peacemaker. I forgive them. They have religious trauma and didn't have access too the info that I have access to.
@Izabela-ek5nh
@Izabela-ek5nh 11 месяцев назад
I was not a foster kid but my behaviour was very much alike and I had to overcome being a people pleaser later in life and it was SO hard because my opinions and wishes never mattered in my early days. My "no" was considered to be so rude whatever the situation was. This is really a very important video.
@rosendove
@rosendove 11 месяцев назад
I found that it helped me learn how to say no by finding other ways to say no. I was still communicating my preference was/was not but I was more informing the people around me of that preference and let them have the final say. What REALLY helped was no longer being around the person whose emotional reactions had to be catered to. I could spend a year witnessing people disagree, state their preference, and make choices and I could spend that year testing those things out, but going back to that person would undo a lot of work. It felt mentally draining and physically exhausting due to the anxiety. In so many ways, just being agreeable and silent is so much easier. It's just that easier =\= better.
@clio_7070
@clio_7070 11 месяцев назад
I never heard of fawn trauma, but I was that kid and I am still the same as a woman. I could relate so much with every situation you showed in this video. I behaved exactly like that child.
@monaw6484
@monaw6484 Год назад
Jesus I do that still. Definitely came from abusive mom. Thanks for sharing this helpful information for ppl and I can’t wait until one day I can help and host kids in the system also
@robinpickard917
@robinpickard917 11 месяцев назад
Laura, thank you for doing these. They're very informative. I know that you have covered many topics. You might have already addressed this, but I was thinking about the difference between babysitting several non traumatized children vs a few traumatized children. 1: Some Traumatized children may not play. If you have toys in the room and a Non traumatized child (NTC) walks into the room, the child may run over and start playing. But the traumatized child (TC) may not know how to play or may be in a state where they can't play such as being in survival mode. 2. The amount and type of supervision varies between the two groups. For example, the NTC might write on the walls. Whereas the TC might carve into his arm or leg. (Not with a knife....that would be too easy. Usually it's a pencil, a pen cap, a paperclip, a broken toy... which they may have just broken a fork, or a lot of other things that you could never imagine being used that way. 3. TC are almost always delayed in one area or another. This however does not mean that they are not smart. It might mean that they were never exposed to that particular knowledge or they are still in "survival mode". It took my daughter about 3 years of living in a safe place before she began to come out of survival mode. So she was not only delayed from the trauma, but also she missed 3 years living in survival mode. So now she is 6 years behind other children her age. (3 years of traumatic living and 3 years to become aware of her safe environment) She is highly intelligent. She will catch up but it will take several years. Imagine being 6 years behind in school work. So simultaneously the child works on the current school work along with making up the missed work. Imagine the frustration of trying to understand the new assignments when the foundations for the subject has never been learned yet. Also, the child may feel so overwhelmed by the whole situation. The child will feel dumb, less than, say, " What is wrong with me? Why can't I learn?" However the child IS learning at an exponential rate. The child just doesn't see the progress. He just sees that he is still struggling with the same thing as he was last year. Now imagine being this child who is not just delayed academically but also socially, emotionally, and sometimes physically. I always say that being a parent of a traumatized child is a lot about being a good listener and a great cheerleader. 4. The child WILL make up EVERY stage that they missed. Whether it involves bottles, pacifiers, experimenting with matter and mass, learning cause and effect, etc. Some examples might be a 12 year old writing on the wall, or crookedly cutting their hair at the scalp. And speaking of phases and milestones, some children may not have object permanence, which is developed generally by 6-9 months old by playing peekaboo and dropping a toy and getting it picked up. Just to throw it again. Without object permanence, a child may be in a safe environment and you might be their safe person, but as soon as you leave the room, their world fails apart because they have no knowledge that you will return. There's no guarantee that you still exist because you are no longer in sight. Thank you for all of your hard work to help the children.
@mmegraham
@mmegraham 11 месяцев назад
Good foster parenting is good parenting. Even as a multi-decade parent, I appreciate these models.
@impagain
@impagain Год назад
Wish u had known way before my 30s that I have a built in fawning response. Gotta reprogram that still...
@jazzycakes6294
@jazzycakes6294 11 месяцев назад
I'm 29 and I'm such a heavy fawner. My husband encourages me to speak up for myself and make decisions. If I make anyone unhappy, I freak the heck out. If I do anything that upsets him, he's very hesitant to tell me because he's afraid I'll absolutely grovel about it. Unfortunately, that just leads to me frequently asking if I'm doing anything wrong, or me apologizing out of nowhere for something I perceived as wrong.
@thatboringone7851
@thatboringone7851 11 месяцев назад
Imho, these are good ways to support people of any age with similar trauma. In my case, I'm 28, have known I'm neurodivergent for almost 2 years, and trying to undo these same kinds of fawning (as well as masking) responses has been... difficult, even with a few incredibly supportive people in my life now. I can recognise some of what they do to help me feel comfortable in this video, and it helps _so much_ just to feel like you have the space to be a messy, complicated, but whole person. I spent so long only allowing small parts of myself to exist around others that I'm learning things about myself most work out much earlier. Thank you for making videos like this. Even not exactly being the intended target, it's incredibly cathartic to see people practicing this kind of care and patience with kids :')
@Laura-kl7vi
@Laura-kl7vi 11 месяцев назад
This is really subtle and important. Thank you. Most inexperienced people's well-meaning impulse would be to reinforce helpfulness.
@Sina-dv1eg
@Sina-dv1eg 11 месяцев назад
God, this video was really eye opening to me. My girlfriend has experienced neglect from her parents all her life, and I've always been so proud of her for becoming such a mature, kind and wonderful woman, despite her upbringing. But damn, she ticks every single box in this video. When we order food, it's always hard to get a clear answer regarding what she wants, it's always "anything's fine," she always offers to cook, or do the dishes, or do one of those things even if I promised to handle both. She said "I love you" very quickly, and she constantly says it to her dad and grandparents and hugs them a lot. Even when we're intimate, she has difficulties saying exactly what she wants from me. Thanks for this video, it's given me a lot to think about in going forward with our relationship and trying to get her to feel as comfortable as possible.
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