Have you ever wondered if baffle alignment affects suppressor performance? We decided to put this concept to the test in this episode of Suppressor Science!
As a data scientist I really appreciate you calling out things like sample size, it definitely shows you guys know what you're doing. Wish there was a comparison between ports and no ports, though...
How about a "spiral" offset of the ports? Set port 1 at 12 o'clock, port 2 at 1 o'clock, port 3 at 2 o'clock, and so on down the stack. They're close to being aligned, but still offset enough to be different.
Thank you! Was wondering about those ports on suppressor baffles… noticed them after a can got shot off a rifle and thought it was “damage” from the bullet!? But the end cap was not affected and ports all the same… so glad to confirm there is a functional purpose for those ports as well as alignment!
Love the info! You guys should starting making baffle alignment rods for suppressors like the switchback. It's hard to get every baffle stack aligned perfectly with the next due to the suppressor body coming together in separate pieces.
So why dont suppressor companies notch the baffles in such a way that they automatically index when you assemble them? It would be simple to do and wouldn't add much if anything to the build costs...?
I'm not entirely sure the early explanation about port alignment holds true for symmetrical (dual opposed) porting as the dynamics of turbulence are different. Hopefully this video will cover it... We also didn't note how alternating 180 degrees on a rifle gave the lowest FRP and at muzzle readings on rimfire. I guess it's not enough to matter. I'm sure there's a lot of complicated interplay that happens once powder is fully burned and reaching the limit of its expansion.
isn’t expanding gas traveling faster than projectile, hence, adding side holes in baffles will allow flow of gas, in front of bullet to collide and interfere with flight path of exiting bullet > baffle strikes < (asking for a friend)
One interesting thing you didn't talk about was the difference in the rise for the random porting at the ear for the semi-auto, it barely increased at all vs the muzzle average where the aligned ports. I guess that's probably because the reduced effectiveness of the ports reduced the backpressure they create as the gases mix and are delayed as they move around to the next port?
This is how I thought they should be aligned but the Gemtech suppressors are the opposite. The baffles will not align in the same direction, they alternate offset config and cannot be aligned. Very strange.
Have you / Can you make a video on shooting smaller caliber rounds through a larger bored suppressor? Example: 5.56 thought a 30 Caliber suppressor compared to a dedicated 5.56 suppressor? Sound and Accuracy test?
My old (but barely used) AAC Ti-rant 45 directions has me stack three baffles so that ports are stacked, while directing me to stack next four baffles with openings on exact ipposite side from first three baffle openings. Does that make any sense. I know my accuracy with this suppressor attached to my Glock 21SF from 15 yd bench rest was horrific: eught to ten inches from "x" no matter which "hand of the clock" the shots went to (from my adjusting it by extending outward from direct thread attachment by 1/4" and turning...done 12 times with same result).
Моё мнение что самое главное это первый конус и он должен быть от среза ствола на расстоянии меньшем чем длина пули чтобы пороховые газы дробились сразу же как только пуля покидает ствол. Нужно проверить расстояние первого конуса от среза ствола , в 5 мм от среза пуля проходит в конус и пороховые газы не успевают её обогнать тем самым они сразу же гасятся о первый конус . И так один конус за другим . Расстояние между самими конусами тоже должно быть короче чем сама пуля чтобы они не смогли её обогнать , и отверстие в конусах должно быть на много меньше чем в вашем глушителе , так он будет на много эффективнее. Проточка в конусе под большим сомнением и здесь нужны конусы без проточки и с проточкой чтобы определить есть ли разница . У вас большая часть пороховых газов проходит между пулей и отверстием в конусе , с проточкой пороховых газов проходит ещё больше обгоняя пулю . My opinion is that the most important thing is the first cone and it should be from the cut of the barrel at a distance less than the length of the bullet so that the powder gases are crushed as soon as the bullet leaves the barrel. It is necessary to check the distance of the first cone from the cut of the barrel , 5 mm from the cut the bullet passes into the cone and the powder gases do not have time to overtake it , thereby they are immediately extinguished on the first cone . And so one cone after another . The distance between the cones themselves should also be shorter than the bullet itself so that they cannot overtake it , and the hole in the cones should be much smaller than in your silencer, so it will be much more effective. The groove in the cone is in great doubt and here cones without a groove and with a groove are needed to determine whether there is a difference . You have most of the powder gases passing between the bullet and the hole in the cone , with the passage of powder gases passes even more ahead of the bullet .
Chart shows 180 has best outcome. Clear winner for the CZ (best 2 out of 3) and lost to Ruger by 0.15 DB in one section. Random was the clear loser. Then you omitted the winner continuing forward. That's your info that you provided.
@@jacobturnblom2681 Thanks Jacob, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer. Form1 community has a general formula they'll use for aperture and clip size. The only problem there is most don't have the equipment to test. It also seems that commercial can clips are larger generally speaking Also a lot of guys are swearing by dbl clips for low pressure cans, but I don't think I've seen that much in commercial cans. Any thoughts? Thanks Again!
When you fully screw on the suppressor, does the index of the clipped portion to the gun matter? Ex. If the "row" of clipped portions is on the right side when the gun is horizontal, does it cause bullet drift to the left, or right? Or is it negligible? (Or should I try to make sure the clipped row is vertical, either directly over or under the bore when the gun is horizontal). Horizontal in this instance means the gun is normal firing position, wither shouldered as rifle or shooting normally w/ a pistol.
In our testing the timing position of the keyhole cutouts do not matter. It's more important that they are lined up internally. It is possible that you could see a slight point of impact shift from one clock position to the next but it would be minimal and repeatable.
Does any maker use Tesla Valve design tech as a basis for baffle design? Can't use it literally the same, the can would blow up. Do not know if gasses would work the same in that design, Just curious. First round pop greatly lessens a suppressors usefulness if you are a hunter. Until they figure out how to purge oxygen from the interior of the suppressor, pop will remain. Would longer barrels reduce pop since all of the powder could be burned up prior to the bullet entering the suppressor?
2 questions: 1st- 180 degree alternating. Sounds like each one alternating. Or did you mean the more normal 1st half aligned one way and the second half aligned 180 degrees opposite? 2nd- I would think that in your indoor range, the suppressed dB's would be much higher than outside. Have you ever done a comparison? Thanks!
Don't think they did, but indoor range vs outdoors is ginormous of course. I'm assuming your shot indoors, low ceiling ranges with ars are brutal. Now outside, as long as your not to the right or left to absorb the concussion force its way better. But having those sound waves bouncing around inside always is louder than out. But I think this is more accurate inside. It would only be more quiet
Our suppressors will work with virtually any host. Get a 9mm pistol that fits your needs and so long as it either comes with a threaded barrel or has an after market option for one you're good to go to run it suppressed.
Lets see a video on some of the worst warranty work you've seen. I hear the guys doing that are wizards. Coming from a guy who may or may not have sent his Omega in once.
