Being from LOS nuch respect to the upstate homies and you’re right, there’s a mutual respect behind the walls. Theres no room for childish games behind the walls.
As sureño from Washington state! I got love for all the sureño homies. From upstate califas to down south it’s all the same .. When homies come up here talking about they harder because they from down south that shit gets smashed real quick I’ve seen hella vatos rolled up for that reason.. we all the same up here ..
As someone that's done State Time & kicked it with South Siders, Sureños & Camaradas I never seen guys from SoCal look down on UpStaters. Like any group you'll have the occasional asshole but overall like anyone else fools like to kick it with people from their area because that's who they feel more comfortable being around because they have more in common
In the southern side of California SUR 13 don't matter..it matters but not like upstate. down south your varrio is first . SUR 13 only matters in the pinta
@@salas831 my boy dreamer cracked hella stars, what happen to the buster that got caught slipping in the restroom in the r.o.p center 😅 that was his last shit 🤣🤣🤣
I'm from so cal but I'm not a gangster and I'm not a Sureño . I am not that hard core so to all the gangsters, Sureños Norteños , BullDog . My hats off to you guys . Much love & respect . I would think that the upstate Sureños would be hard core ,they are out numbered big time up north .
It's more on a town by town basis. There's literally dozens of little towns up north where Sur established and faces little to no opposition. E.g. There was hardly any northern presence in places like half moon bay, sonoma, windsor, and many other sleepy little towns in mostly agricultural places. The dudes truly on the front lines are those who set up hoods in bigger cities and towns with large numbers of Norteño hoods such as: San Jose, Stockton, SF, Oakland, Hayward, Sacramento, Salinas, Watsonville, Modesto, Merced, Delano, etc. If you banged or are banging SS in those places I would have to say that took courage.
In southern cali Mexican gangs with 13 behind they name have one bring in common pay taxes to Mexican mafia and street politics is varrio on varrio you are only Sur when you’re incarcerated but there are upstate surenos
When I was in prison, I had a sureno from ventura County tell me " I think their is a sureno from salinas" he started laughing and saying he ain't shit. I'm a norteno
Yeah those are the weak ones that wanna look good for the next man, he probably thought since You’re a norteno he’d get on your good side for speaking down
I'm from San Diego and I give mad props to the Upstate Sureños, they fought the northerners in a real way. Here in Southern Cali we don't even know what norteños look like . Much love to my Upstaters for fighting the war up north
No difference than Central Valley N’s hating on Bay Area N’s etc, etc. San Jo N’s always think they run everything so there’s a lot of hate on them. It’s nothing new.
I'm a South sider from the Midwest and I've been to federal prison and I didn't have any serious issues there were a few homies that looked down but nothing major and the yard I was on was majority LA homies
Well put. Every city,county,state,let alone every single hood has at least that one home boy who brags a bit more than the next man about their hood. On all sides. We all do it to some extent. Inside,outside,north and south,at the end of the day,we are all in the same situation.
It's not like it's already too late to turn around and make us wear another flag just like their stories about their lA from other gang the wer red flag talking about making peace with the pics wed n
Listo good stuff. In the street life all over the world ie: City,County or Country hard,tough or dangerous is certainly not geographical but individual , Real is most definitely Real. We have to stop the hate at youth level and your right tell a lie long enough and it becomes what people believe and the bigger the platform the more people believe it , that's why its important to call these lies out with facts so the real truth is out there. Good reply mate .🇮🇪🤙. Peace ✌
LA even trip on their own hahaha In prison I remember the homies from LA will talk down on everybody Will clown on the valley boys will be like Hey dude how you doin they’ll get low key hot lol But LA trips on everyone back then don’t know bout now
I've never understood how Northerners are so opinionated about Southerner Politics or how SoCal feels about UpStaters. My thing has always been you can only lean so much from staring at someone & "Ear Hustling" the next man's conversation.
Do upstaters ever beef with other gangs besides nortenos or the BB in Oakland? Nortenos sometimes beef with black and Asian gangs but I never heard anything similar regarding upstate surenos.
WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND, IS HOW UPSTATERS CALL US FARMERS. WHEN YA FROM THE SAME NORTHERN FARMLAND AS US. I SEE WHY SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CALLS US THAT, BUT UPSTATERS ARE BEING HYPOCRITICAL.
I'd get being offended if the term "Farmer" came out of left field but the "Helga Bird" is the symbol for the National Farmworkers Union. A lot of Norteños even call other Northerners "Farmeros" is the outrage over that word like Black people who use the "N" word but become outraged when someone of another race uses the word? Not even in reference to a black person or with Racist intent. Does anyone even use the word "Farmer" as a derogatory term?
@@TheMartin9400 ITS NOT THAT THE WORD IS OFFENSIVE, ITS THE HYPOTHETICAL PART. THEY ARE FARMERS TOO, THEY JUST ACT AS IF THEYRE NOT. KINDA LIKE LOOKING DOWN ON US, KNOWING THEY ARE JUST AS FARMEROS AS US. THE SUR IS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THESE VATOS UP HERE REPPING SUR ARE JUST CONFUSED.
@@flatlands707eastside5 I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY? 707 IS NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, YOU VATOS ARE NOT FROM THE SUR. SO YA JUST BUNCH OF CHAPS DISGUISED🥸 IN BLUE🔵
northerners be delusional about this, ain't never seen any differences between upstate and US down south southerners, always kicked it tough with my upstaters, Winton, howe park, east Palo Alto and many more upstaters, much love.
@@salas831 i havent G but homies from LA come up north, and we go down south at times as well and its all love, and the homies that come home from doing time mostly say its all good
DELISIONAL ARE THE ONES THAT R BORN N RAISED IN THE NORTE, BANG SUR YET TALK SHIT BOUT NORTE THAN BANG A NORTHERN CITY TATTED ON THEM,😂😂😂 YELL ALL YA WANT YALL DA REAL BUSTERS CONFUSED AF, PEACE!
You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders I am too from San Jose I’m older than you so I will never see how someone from a NORTHERN town or city can claim south. That’s just my old way of thinking. I do understand how it came about cuz of the chicanos treating the first generation Mexicans poorly but I see it like this. If you fight with your mom or dad they are still your mom and dad. So if your from NorCal no matter how you say it your from NorCal so there for they are not sur. I think it sad that we are all from San Jose and we fight each other behind the wall cuz of the north and south issue. All of us from San Jose should be on the same side. Just like southern cities they are all on the same side. They may not like each other but they are all on the same side.
I appreciate it OG, and i agree with you and disagree with you, i think most upstate surenos know and love to be from northern california, the term upstate sureno started because of an album in the early 2000’s called upstate surenos vol.1 and 2, what i do agree on, is it would be nice if cities were united but not like los angeles, more like fresno where for the most part everybody is united, because LA has bloodshed amongst themselves even though they’re on the same side
Question for Listo: are there a lot of white UpStaters? I know Northerners have hella White Boys just look at RU-vid half the Prison Genre is White Northerners.
You must not know your history, but I think its considered real when the big fellas inside say its real, not somebody in a comment section on youtube, 🫡
@@UpstatePOV EXACTLY LISTO every gang has weinnies, and every gang has hitters too it don't matter where you live at or what color you claim either BUT I'M JUST SAYIN THO 🤷🤗
Truthfully homie , it’s a lot deeper then the picture is painted you have to understand a lot of southern hoods that was, or use to be established in Northern Califas, was southern rejects what I mean is that there hood was taken over or certain individuals rat on there homeboys or owed money and only certain few move because financial reasons a lot relocated up North which it became Upstaters , The Upstaters had no boundaries when it came to the enemy they will get on the stand and testify on there enemy and made reports to the police providing them information about there enemy when the enemy get lock up he shoot his paper work to the southern factor of testimony from one of there own the Northern reporting him as a snitch of course there was talks before paper work was released usually you have neutral party do the exchange of paperwork it got so bad the southerners was sending representers to go up North but in 2010 in Modesto the upstaters rebel and green lighted anyone from LA , the same happen in many different counties up North there is more reason that cause SouthSiders some cases separated , this is where upstaters was called half thirteeners or was still call busters representing the blue rag.
