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Surface Mount Posts for Iron and Aluminum Fence 

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Some fence projects call for putting a fence in an area where you can’t bury a post in cement. It could be a cement pool deck, a patio or even a masonry wall top. For those projects, we have a couple of specialty posts for use with our Stronghold Iron and Infinity Aluminum fence.
Let’s start with the solution for our Stronghold Iron fences and gates. We utilize what’s called a welded flange post. It comes only in a 2.5” square post size and 3ft, 4ft, 5ft and 6ft lengths to match the fence. As you can see by my example piece here, we have welded a 5” square plate on the bottom of the post that we refer to as a flange.
The flange has 4 mounting holes pre-drilled for you. They are a ½” diameter, but we recommend utilizing 3/8” hardware to allow a little wiggle room for adjustment.
The flange will stick out roughly 1.25” from the side of the post, so if you are mounting up against a wall or pillars, be sure you account for that in your measurements.
The surface mounting solution is a little different for our Infinity Aluminum line. Since aluminum is lighter and not as strong as steel and iron, we don’t do a welded flange. For our aluminum fences we use this flange post insert. As the name implies, this piece is inserted into the bottom of the post and then tightened at the bottom so that these two pieces press against the inner post wall for a tight fit.
The aluminum flange posts inserts come in a size to match our 2” and 2.5” aluminum posts. The 2” post flange insert is roughly 4” square whereas the post flange insert for our 2.5” posts is about 4.5” square. Both have two 3/8” mounting holes in the base that we recommend using 5/16” or ¼” mounting hardware for.
Unlike our iron flange posts, with the aluminum posts you will utilize standard ground posts that you will cut to height. So if you had a 7ft tall post for your 5ft tall fence, you would trim the post to roughly 5’2” long and insert your flange into the bottom before installation.
To drill the holes, you will want to get a masonry drill bit. They are specially made for drilling into concrete, brick and masonry. Be sure to get the size specified on the mounting hardware you bought.
While you can use a standard drill for this task, I would highly recommend using or renting a drill with a hammer action as this one has. It makes the drilling go at least 3x faster than using a standard drill alone.
There are many different mounting hardware options, but the two that we most commonly see employed are tapcons and concrete wedge anchors.
The first is a tapcon anchor. It looks like a standard bolt, but is engineered to be screwed into masonry materials. For this option, you pre-drill your hole to the width and depth noted on the hardware, put your post in place, set the tapcon in the drilled holes and then tighten it in place.
The second option is a concrete wedge anchor. It utilizes a specialized threaded portion that is tapped into the hole. When its tightened, the small collar at the bottom of the piece will flare out and hold the threaded portion in the material tightly. To use a concrete wedge anchor, you first pre-drill your hole to the width and depth noted on the box. Next, tap the threaded anchor portion into your hole. Place the post over the threaded portion. Place your washer over the threaded portion and on top of the flange. Lastly, place the nut and thread it on.
I hope this video has helped show you how our specialized flange posts allow you to mount our fences on top of a surface or wall. There are other methods for installing our fence over a surface, but utilizing the flange posts is the most DIY friendly and straightforward.
Jason Kauffman
Iron Fence Shop®
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sales@ironfenceshop.com
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@privateman1850
@privateman1850 Год назад
I would like to order an aluminum fence to mount onto a Brick/cement 3 foot high wall. I assume it is a stronger fence if I was to core drill and put a longer post into the cement wall, am I mistaken? And if core drilling is better for strength than a flange post how deep do you suggest I core drill so I know how much longer my posts need to be prior to ordering. Although I love your flange post option for ease of install, I am concerned people trying to jump the fence will cause damage to the aluminum fence, I am planning on roughly a 4 foot high aluminum fence to put on top of my cement wall. Thank you for the video. :)
@Ironfenceshop
@Ironfenceshop Год назад
Hi there. We need to go over some more details via phone and/ or email. Could you shoot us a message at sales@ironfenceshop.com or call us at 800-261-2729? Core-drilling is a stronger and more secure method than the flanges. I couldn't weight in on the depth, but it will be determined by your wall construction. Normally with core-drilling, you only go a few inches deep so you don't break through the slab/ wall. Get in contact with us direct and we can go through the project in more detail. Thanks!
@bondibeast
@bondibeast 4 года назад
how do i plum the the post, do you recomend trying to grind the concrete a bit more level or putting some washers under the low side?
@Ironfenceshop
@Ironfenceshop 4 года назад
Both are good solutions. The concrete grinding is more than some people are comfortable with, but I think it will give you a cleaner look than shimming it with washers. It really depends how much grinding you have to do. If it's minor and a small rise, grind. If it's something you would have to take significant material off for, then I would shim. Both are acceptable options.
@jman1057
@jman1057 3 года назад
@@Ironfenceshop I have the same question. I don't think grinding will be an option. what are shims for this application made out of? I have never seen a shimmed surface mounted iron post before and what if a have a separate mounting plate and separate post and a welder to weld them, will the welder be cutting the post at an angle to plumb, then welding? I'm trying to put an iron gate/fence using 4x4 iron post across my driveway and there is a slight slope to the driveway. I am thinking of trying to install all the posts my self, but if welding is necessary. I will have to hire a welder, even though one will be needed to build the iron gate and panels.
@Ironfenceshop
@Ironfenceshop 3 года назад
@@jman1057 We don't sell the shims and I don't have a source for them. I've seen solutions as simple as stainless steel washers under the plate to more elaborate metal shims someone sourced. Angled flange posts are not something we supply and for a large item like a driveway gate, I would not recommend using flange posts. That is too much leverage force on a flange post bolt for big gate leafs. The nest solution there is breaking up the concrete, burying the post in a concrete footing and then re-poring the driveway surface around it to tie everything together.
@Ironfenceshop
@Ironfenceshop 3 года назад
@@jman1057 Those shims are something people make out of random items or on their own. There is no shim product on the market I'm aware of or have used. We would not advise mounting something as large as a driveway gate on flange posts. That's a lot of leverage force for those bolts to hold down. Our flange posts only come in a 2.5in size for panels and smaller walk gates.
@rs2543
@rs2543 4 года назад
Is it possible to get samples?
@Ironfenceshop
@Ironfenceshop 4 года назад
Definitely. Samples can be ordered at: www.ironfenceshop.com/order-sample
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