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Surgeon Reacts to Space Marine Creation Process - 1 of 5 | 19 Organ Implants (Astartes Organs 1 - 6) 

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In this video orthopedic surgeon Dr Chris Raynor looks at the Astartes Space Marines from Warhammer 40K and Space Marine creation, focusing on the first 6 organs of the 19 organ augmentation process and comparing them to today's technology. #warhammer40k #spacemarines #astartes
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@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD Год назад
Don't forget to check out the latest instalment of this series here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SFzZ3K1LeCs.html
@MrHawksrule95
@MrHawksrule95 Год назад
Congratulations, I got here from recommended and I'm not even into W40K, I just thought the analysis was freaking sweet. Thank you for the content, will be back to this channel
@Lucinda666
@Lucinda666 Год назад
50k War-Hammer very hard just organs changes......try DNA reedition or cyber-human.......
@MRsolidcolor
@MRsolidcolor Год назад
soo what you telling me that its possible.. cool
@BossClown9
@BossClown9 Год назад
I'm very glad to watch your videos, coolest surgeon in the world 😎
@Stealth0978
@Stealth0978 Год назад
Good info Just remember warhammer 40k is supposed to be ridiculous
@thefattesthagrid
@thefattesthagrid Год назад
What a glorious time we live in, where professionals in their field retain their nerd habits and are able to hold such ridiculous conversations.
@IwhowasdatXD960
@IwhowasdatXD960 11 месяцев назад
I have to say that's one underrated thing the internet has done for us
@hpropganda
@hpropganda 9 месяцев назад
scientists are nerds, who knew?
@insaniam_convertunt_scientiam
@insaniam_convertunt_scientiam 9 месяцев назад
Conversations today, experimentation tomorrow
@arjunratnadev
@arjunratnadev 8 месяцев назад
dude its a layout for Sci-fi, what's wrong with you?
@zahillethe7th846
@zahillethe7th846 6 месяцев назад
It reminds me of that lawyer on Reddit who broke down Anakin's legal defense against fighting Obi-Wan
@Matuse
@Matuse 2 года назад
Fun fact: Almost all of these implant surgeries are done with no anesthetic. If you can't survive surgery while feeling everything, you're not tough enough to be an Astartes.
@Jebu911
@Jebu911 2 года назад
Yep and after all that work you end up dying on your first mission to ork boy shooting his pistol at you
@Papa_Straight
@Papa_Straight 2 года назад
Nice so no furries and degenerates can survive good very good
@nicholascordero6600
@nicholascordero6600 2 года назад
This does vary between chapters, for example the Blood Angels spend most of their implantation process unconscious as their infused of Sanguinius' blood
@locoyogui
@locoyogui 2 года назад
Fun fact, huh?
@BitmapJack
@BitmapJack 2 года назад
If you cant deal with your small dick due to hormone grouwth you cant be a dickless astartes
@sebastianholtsvendsen2597
@sebastianholtsvendsen2597 2 года назад
As a 40k fan I love seeing my stupid sci-fi 8 feet post-humans explained in a modern medical context. I will most definetly check out more of your content after this
@LasseROM
@LasseROM 2 года назад
I can only agree.
@thorpsy100
@thorpsy100 2 года назад
They're IQ is supposed to be 200+ so not so stupid ;)
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 года назад
40k is pretty weak by they way
@sebastianholtsvendsen2597
@sebastianholtsvendsen2597 2 года назад
@@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 comes from you argel tal, just wait for Erebus to come by and help with your bad influence
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 года назад
@@sebastianholtsvendsen2597 after holding off ultramarines and khran, and Erebus what who had a chaos wepons? And plot armour? , big 40k fan?? doesn't know basic lore 🤣
@michaeltremblay1271
@michaeltremblay1271 Год назад
I'm an RN who works in inpatient rehab and enjoy 40k lore immensely. Thus is by far the most entertaining thing I've watched lately.
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD Год назад
🙏🙏
@ultraheaven8968
@ultraheaven8968 Год назад
Im a real n**ga too, respect
@TheSword2212
@TheSword2212 Год назад
Im homeless and I love 40k lore
@G3000
@G3000 Год назад
@@ultraheaven8968 respect. Booyakasha 😎
@nothanks9503
@nothanks9503 Год назад
@@TheSword2212 the gangs all here
@thegeneralscall
@thegeneralscall 2 года назад
Honestly, the idea that a space marine recruit has to break every bone in their body multiple times to have them lengthen and strengthen sounds more grimdark than the regular lore.
@ffwast
@ffwast 2 года назад
You just need to read more lore.
@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286
@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 2 года назад
@@ffwast I concur. That's not grimdark at all compared to 40k. Even the space marine creation process has more grim dark things in it.
@cecrops9289
@cecrops9289 2 года назад
You should read up on how chaos marines are made lmao.
@levongevorgyan6789
@levongevorgyan6789 2 года назад
I honestly wouldn’t mind a retcon that made it the case that they do exactly this.
@NtoTheM
@NtoTheM 2 года назад
Nah, that's pretty harmless for 40k standards.
@Notbatman374
@Notbatman374 2 года назад
Fun fact, in the books a lot of the first born space marines do suffer from acromegaly from the astartes process, and are described as having forms of facial gigantism. Big brows, big cheeks, etc. Especially those legions without a primarch around to stabilize their genetics, such as lion el'johnson, who was lost on caliban prior to the 1st legion finding him. Edited for clarification*
@nofuxgivens2797
@nofuxgivens2797 2 года назад
Which space marine chapters have no primarch from which their genetics are derived from? The closest you could get to that being a reality would be the original space marines having zero primarchs since they were killed or disappeared for the last 35k+ years There are extreme forms of.this like the Black dragons who grow bladed and spiked protrusions from their arms, brows and other spots but due to impediment to their armor function they need to be trimmed or removed
@brianfite4740
@brianfite4740 2 года назад
@@nofuxgivens2797 Just because I am reading the Siege of Terra books again, there actually is a space marine with no primarch (Leeto), who was a prototype. I would not lump the lost legions in with him though, as they definitely had one.
@lazlopwent7960
@lazlopwent7960 2 года назад
@@brianfite4740 I always assumed he was from a lost legion. Leeto being a reference to the 2nd Legion.
@lazlopwent7960
@lazlopwent7960 2 года назад
@@nofuxgivens2797 No legion has access to "pure" Primarch DNA and many legion's seed has corrupted over the millennia. Typically, this presents as a loss in certain implants (Fists not spitting acid/unable to suspend). However, it gets extreme (Blood Angels suffering Black Rage/Red Thirst). Though it could be argued that the "thirst" is a pre-heresy mutation. Black Dragons suffer mutations because they are a "chimera" Chapter like most of the 13th founding. Chapter genetics were mixed from various Legions. All the Chapters from that founding were tainted in one form or another.
@brianfite4740
@brianfite4740 2 года назад
@@lazlopwent7960 Na, the book references him predating the Primarchs. Also, while not all chapters had access to pure geneseed, several had access to pure DNA (imperial fists had Rogal's hand, Blood Angels had Sanguinius' whole body (encased in gold), and Edit: Ultamarines had Guillimen in stasis prior to him waking up, though I imagine that this was ignored for story reasons. Also, as a Blood Angels fanboy, I have to agree that the red thirst predates the heresy, but I would argue that the Black Rage is related to Sanguinius' foresight echoing down the ages, and is more a psychic phenomena than a gene flaw. That is kind of nitpicking though. :)
@briancoolbreeze
@briancoolbreeze Год назад
Swelling joints is actually a common problem experienced by Astartes in the lore. They are able to ignore the discomfort and push on because of their other abilities and indoctrination.
@Powaup
@Powaup Год назад
That’s interesting! Even Primaris Marines?
@briancoolbreeze
@briancoolbreeze Год назад
@@Powaup I haven't read anything that says primaris marines are any different. I think they would still have the same problems but I couldn't say for sure
@superdarklink
@superdarklink Год назад
@@briancoolbreeze if I recall correctly, a primaris marine has 22 organs, as opposed to the 19 of a normal Space Marine. They are bigger, more resilient to physical damage, much physically stronger, and have much faster reaction times compared to a Normal Space Marine. Moreover, it is possible for a normal Space Marine, now called a Firstborn, to undergo additional surgery to have the extra organs implanted and transform into a Primaris Marine, but this process has a very low success rate, even lower than the original process.
@briancoolbreeze
@briancoolbreeze Год назад
@@superdarklink But there's nothing that says primaris marines don't suffer from the same problems that firstborn marines experience, such as swelling joints
@superdarklink
@superdarklink Год назад
@@briancoolbreeze this is true. But considering the Primaris Marines are supposed to be better than a normal Space Marine in every single way, unless otherwise stated I think it's safe to assume that flaw was ironed out
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener Год назад
I underwent leg lengthening with a fixator when I was 12 due to a congenital mismatch of my lower right leg. I never knew that brought me closer to being an Astartes than most fans. 😅 great video!
@b4tman_and_Rob1n
@b4tman_and_Rob1n 7 месяцев назад
Ouch! I hope you're ok now
@yunanklaus1195
@yunanklaus1195 Год назад
Correction about the rib cage; the bones don't fuse into one solid plate, instead they grow wider and stronger, overlapping each other like roman plate armor (lorica segmentata). They're still able to contract and expand.
@robrobusa
@robrobusa Год назад
Whenever I hear this, I really get the heebies... something about the thought of that just rustles my jimmies.
@dometrikschramm5301
@dometrikschramm5301 Год назад
@@robrobusa That's because the idea of bones overlapping and scraping together doesn't sound like it would feel good. Would probably need some cartilage-like substance between each rib.
@sunriseparrabellum5505
@sunriseparrabellum5505 Год назад
It’s silly little details like this that make me love this absolute mess of a lore
@robrobusa
@robrobusa Год назад
@@dometrikschramm5301 It's almost like no medical professionals were harmed in making this lore ;) But yes that makes sense.
@DormantGames
@DormantGames Год назад
@@dometrikschramm5301 Imagine- every time you breathe in, you get the sensation of rib cramps. One of my lower right ribs cramp and will make several popping noises over the course of a few minutes before settling again, thankfully it only happens every 2-4 weeks, as it is extremely unpleasant Edit: It's either cramp, or I have an alien chest burster in me
@QuasiKnobby
@QuasiKnobby 2 года назад
Heck yes! Please keep doing fictional universes, it's so interesting to see how you tie real world medical knowledge with fictional beings! Thanks Dr. Raynor!
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Will do!
@rromero7849
@rromero7849 2 года назад
AGREED...I LOVE this stuff! 👍
@sassythesasquatch1571
@sassythesasquatch1571 2 года назад
@@ChrisRaynorMD good man
@nunyabisniz8047
@nunyabisniz8047 2 года назад
fictional? no, 40k is where we're headed to now. 40k is officially non-fiction
@obuniaaron3700
@obuniaaron3700 2 года назад
Me too imagine in the future if we could actually make spacemarines
@EvolvedTactical
@EvolvedTactical 2 года назад
Fun fact: the first Astartes shown (doing the video game "ready" stance) is a Primaris Marine. They're new, and get 3 more organs on top of the typical Astartes organs.
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Don't worry. They are coming after the basic Space Marines are done.
@EvolvedTactical
@EvolvedTactical 2 года назад
@@ChrisRaynorMD dang, Doc! You're on it. As a 40k who used to be a Ranger medic, I really enjoy how you're blending hard science fact with near future capabilities to achieve the Sci fi we all want. Keep up the great work.
@talltroll7092
@talltroll7092 2 года назад
@@EvolvedTactical Dunno if I'd qualify the 40th millenium as "near future"...
@WarMonger_the-One-and-Only
@WarMonger_the-One-and-Only 2 года назад
@@ChrisRaynorMD Gods of the Warp, you madman! I salute thee.
@theanathema3062
@theanathema3062 2 года назад
@@WarMonger_the-One-and-Only is this heresy I hear??
@masonhoffman5653
@masonhoffman5653 Год назад
Interesting bit of 40k lore. Those metal buttons we saw on the space marines forehead are called "campaign studs" and they are implanted into the marines head for every 100 years of service.
@dabestorkposta
@dabestorkposta Месяц назад
@@masonhoffman5653 Is Dante's forehead just Made of metal?
@masonhoffman5653
@masonhoffman5653 Месяц назад
@@dabestorkposta no idea, I don't play Blood Angels. Or space marines in general
@dabestorkposta
@dabestorkposta Месяц назад
@@masonhoffman5653 i mean it's more so a lore thing considering he is the oldest space marine
@dabestorkposta
@dabestorkposta Месяц назад
@@masonhoffman5653 or maybe the Death Mask isn't a mask and it is actually his service stud
@MazNator
@MazNator 2 года назад
I'd imagine 38+ thousand years of ethically dubious grimdark research would produce crazy results, good video man.
@caxe7
@caxe7 Год назад
More like 5k years of development and 33k years of pure chaos
@MazNator
@MazNator Год назад
@@caxe7 True.
@sphaireus
@sphaireus Год назад
Astartes weren’t created in 40k. They were created in 30k. Thunder warriors in the 29th.
@Antonyman2
@Antonyman2 Год назад
28 thousand years
@cookiecraze1310
@cookiecraze1310 Год назад
Heresy was 30k, and the pre-marines (thunder warriors) were 29k. So really 1 thousand years of dubious research.
@Bacchaus66
@Bacchaus66 2 года назад
oh wow I had no idea there was an actual procedure to implant a secondary heart already. Such a great video, love in depth technical analysis of fictional concepts
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@assfuckerthejointpounder5834
@assfuckerthejointpounder5834 2 года назад
Batman would fold the Hulkbuster if he truly has an anatomy that's been pushed to the human body as confirmed by death battle. But the movies, games, TV series, and comic books don't seem to truly recognize what this actually is. He could fold Spider-Man blindfolded, Death Battle might not be dumb but information deficiency does play a part. Also don't expect them to know anything that was discovered after the death battle video was made.
@rhenry7949
@rhenry7949 2 года назад
As an old combat medic this was a hoot to watch. Thanks Doc, you earned a follow.
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
🙏🙏
@AlphaWolf789
@AlphaWolf789 Год назад
thank you for your service man ^_^
@treasurewuji8740
@treasurewuji8740 Год назад
You sir are from the top three special forces in the world.
@jacobleukus6930
@jacobleukus6930 Год назад
Hell yeah man me too and i thoroughly enjoyed this
@jrshaul
@jrshaul Год назад
"What do we say to the god of death?" "NOT TODAY!"
@peteredwards2318
@peteredwards2318 Год назад
Interestingly, organ rejection is, in lore terms, most definitely a thing that aspirants might encounter during the post implantation period. No worries though. In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, they typically just liquidate the subject and select a new aspirant to run the process on, depending on which legion is involved and how the rejection manifests. Of course, thats assuming the rejection itself is survivable. Often times, if there is rejection, theres no coming back from that, regardless of a bolt round to the head as a safety precaution.
@studentjohn
@studentjohn Год назад
Hmm... Not sure if it's rejection as such, but some chapters' more interesting quirks are supposed to come from flaws in their gene seed making some of the extra organs he rejected or not work properly. The Blood Angels are a good example, where their literal thirst for blood is down to a malfunction of the organ that lets Astartes gain their enemy's memories by eating them. Yet Astartes with these problems are still fielded rather than being euthanised.
@peteredwards2318
@peteredwards2318 Год назад
@@studentjohn it depends on the chapter, and which author wrote the lore chunk we are talking about. The Space Wolves have the potential to go full wolf, except in their case, become a massive, overpowered thing called a Wulfen and are often either offed directly, or thrown out into the wilderness, there to be a threat to overcome for aspirant Space Wolves as one of the last rites of passage before being recognised. This is what occurred in the first story in the Space Wolves Omnibus, Space Wolf, by William King, if I recall correctly. Also, in that novel I believe, one aspirant simply ups and dies after implantation, although I could be misremembering that.
@SlaaneshChampionMako
@SlaaneshChampionMako 2 месяца назад
Actually most aspirants who cannot go all the way to marines usually just become chapter serfs, which is actually a better life than it sounds, a step up from average imperial citizen, as they belong to the chapter and perform various duties and even combat (manning turrets and weapon systems aboard ships)
@spencerscott4878
@spencerscott4878 2 года назад
I was genuinely surprised how accurate the lore was for this. It's pretty rare to see someone outside of the community explain the lore accurately (it doesn't even make sense itself most of the time), especially in a deep dive like this! This was such a cool video, I'll be looking for the next!
@kerbodynamicx472
@kerbodynamicx472 2 года назад
There must be a lot of refinements on the way, contributed by fans that are also doctors and medical students.
@MrFahrenheit626
@MrFahrenheit626 2 года назад
Not only was the info accurate, the pronunciations were also spot on. Color me impressed.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 2 года назад
No wonder Halo stole Space Marine description for Spartans(only lore description of implant and process, which weren't unique either as GW is know for plagiarism. Armor design was inspired by Doom marine and the role itself... well, people to this day argue how Halo and Marathon are connected and whom is the Guard to Spartans). If it works, why fix it?;)
@joshuadallas3135
@joshuadallas3135 2 года назад
"Outside of the community"? He seems like a pretty big fan to me
@macbrodernbror3271
@macbrodernbror3271 2 года назад
@@joshuadallas3135 yeah, i came here to comment just about the same thing. Got a pretty strong feeling this man has a hobby room at home
@Kodasa_Sinclair
@Kodasa_Sinclair 2 года назад
"Being a Space Marine is clearly a tough job." Yes, yes it is, but then so is existing in any capacity within the 40k universe. Even if all the Xenos threats don't getcha, the inquisition might... The best way to describe 40k is everything is having a competition to be the most grim badass ever.
@theholyduck5520
@theholyduck5520 2 года назад
Except maybe for the Orks, who are just having a good time.
@Radbiker33357
@Radbiker33357 2 года назад
What do you mean the inquisition might? The inquisition don’t go after space marines do they? Only chaos and Xenos?
@Korija2029
@Korija2029 2 года назад
@@Radbiker33357 Based on ordo, and they try, look at moths of shame. (spoiler inquisition gets ass kicked)
@Milkymalk
@Milkymalk 2 года назад
@@Radbiker33357 Even Space Marines go after Space Marines if they think they are being heretic.
@Milkymalk
@Milkymalk 2 года назад
You underestimate how vast the Imperium is. You could very well live on one of the millions of backwater planets that in millennia has never seen any sign of war, living a nice life in a society with a tech level akin to ours.
@MWH12085
@MWH12085 2 года назад
Astarties are complex enough. The Custodies are even more so. The Primarchs? According to the lore, Horus's body was examined after he was killed.....they had no idea what they were looking at. They apparently have organs that no one knows what they do.
@SuperEone1
@SuperEone1 2 года назад
What codex or book is this examination from?
@LazyY91
@LazyY91 2 года назад
@@SuperEone1 I wanna know too
@EastlakeRasta7
@EastlakeRasta7 2 года назад
@@SuperEone1 "Would you like to know more?"
@seb9995
@seb9995 2 года назад
It was prob the "terrible decision making" organ
@SomeGuy-qh6rw
@SomeGuy-qh6rw 2 года назад
Horus was deleted from existence. There is nothing left of him, unless you mean his clones. Even his soul was erased.
@thirdeyeblind6369
@thirdeyeblind6369 Год назад
As a 40k fan and someone saved by modern surgical techniques, This video series is perfect viewing.
@forcedinertia9187
@forcedinertia9187 2 года назад
As a non-science major, I wish just one of my professors would have been able to be as interesting as Dr. Raynor. Think I learned more about anatomy in 20 minutes over semesters of classes.
@user-vv1do1wg1j
@user-vv1do1wg1j 2 года назад
so youre a non science major? i assumed you didnt major in anatomy? yeah bro im not surprised.
@gas_maskkid6059
@gas_maskkid6059 2 года назад
@@user-vv1do1wg1j you sound pissed ngl
@GreebusBleeb
@GreebusBleeb 2 года назад
@@user-vv1do1wg1j lol I bet you'll call yourself an alpha male next
@khareckless6769
@khareckless6769 2 года назад
@@user-vv1do1wg1j y so pressed? Serving McDonald's in a couple hours?
@Izawwlgood
@Izawwlgood Год назад
I think this would have been a really cool tie into A&P, a 'think about this critically and how these implants would work and/or affect a human'.
@kylediel1653
@kylediel1653 2 года назад
The fact you went this deep into the lore of 40k and made a video based on the creation of the poster boys of 40k makes you a legend and I'm bow sibscribed XD
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Thanks Kyle!
@ctakitimu
@ctakitimu 2 года назад
You've subscribed to your bow, or did you subscribe along with your trusty longbow? I'd love it if a guy with a bow secretly watched over me and kept me safe when I went out at night. Dr. Chris is lucky to have someone on overwatch.
@famoushorse.
@famoushorse. 2 года назад
Thank you SO MUCH Dr. Raynor. Every other surgeon I talked to told me it would be "impossible" to be turned into a 7 foot tall emotionless killing machine. The experimental implants I wanted done were considered "too risky" and medically "unecessary" but after watching your video I know the future is close at hand. Long Live the Chaos Gods.
@zephurwallace9560
@zephurwallace9560 Год назад
Pro tip: You can save money on implants by praying to the Dark Gods for mutations, with only a minor chance of getting transformed into a Chaos Spawn. Totally worth it.
@imtheoperatorttv637
@imtheoperatorttv637 Год назад
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
@human6310
@human6310 Год назад
The Officio Medicae does not actually endorse the wanton use and distribution of any space-marine conversion paraphernalia. If enthrallment with being surgically transformed into an Astartes (specifically a Chaos Astartes) persist consult your commissar.
@JinxedPixie88
@JinxedPixie88 Год назад
HERESY!!!
@DemonKingVI
@DemonKingVI Год назад
For the Emperor.
@jthecryptid
@jthecryptid Год назад
In the Horus Hersey novels, Space Marines appear to have acromegaly (distended brows, noses, and chins) when their helmets are removed. Probably from the intense hormone therapies
@LordCrate-du8zm
@LordCrate-du8zm 7 месяцев назад
True, but not all of them suffer from this. Ahriman, Uriel Ventris, and other marines across the setting seem to have completely normal facial features. I think it really depends on the implantation process.
@malekbaraka3458
@malekbaraka3458 7 месяцев назад
@@LordCrate-du8zm And the Geneseed ;)
@InfinityOrNone
@InfinityOrNone 2 года назад
~28,000 years ahead of schedule, actually. Astartes were developed at the end of M30, and even the Primaris were finished in a time frame much closer to that than to the modern setting of M41-M42.
@oattyrant2035
@oattyrant2035 2 года назад
🤓
@Dylanfrias24
@Dylanfrias24 2 года назад
@@oattyrant2035 🤓-🤓
@robfrank8393
@robfrank8393 2 года назад
@@Dylanfrias24 🤓-🤓-🤓
@zephyrstrife4668
@zephyrstrife4668 2 года назад
Exactly, M41 is just when the process was able to be performed by religious extremists that shunned the value of progress. Just imagine, an Imperium with the drive to improve like the Tau. That would be the golden age-returned. While what Bellisarius Cawl has done is controversial... He didn't exactly reinvent the wheel. It takes a ton of suspension of disbelief to think he had these primaris just hidden away in a closet for ten thousand years on the most penny-pinching planet in the system... all he did was get a little closer to what the emperor's assistant did when they created the Astartes.
@IsaacClodfelter
@IsaacClodfelter 2 года назад
It probably won't take us that long to be able to make one. So the timelines kinda match up sans all the apocalypse like things that happened on earth.
@prinzezzqtpi5437
@prinzezzqtpi5437 2 года назад
There's nothing I love more than a medical professional who is willing to drop all the "super seriousness" and treat medical knowledge as something fun. We need more people like you to bridge the gap and humanize medical professionals. Hats off to you, sir.
@ryateo1
@ryateo1 2 года назад
I have no idea how I ended up on this. I have no general interest in medicine or Warhammer........ but this was fabulous. you're a great presenter, and I watched it to the very end🤣🤙
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@h.w.6563
@h.w.6563 Год назад
@@ChrisRaynorMD There is a scammer posing as you in your comment section. Just a heads up.
@Nyerguds
@Nyerguds Год назад
The Algorithm has spoken, lol. No idea how I ended up here either, besides maybe some of the old "Emperor's TTS" videos back before they got shut down.
@Saicofake
@Saicofake Год назад
Becareful brother, 40K Lore is a void that will swallow you whole.
@ryateo1
@ryateo1 Год назад
@@Saicofake I'm always searching for a new rabbit hole to explore
@NerdLegionInc
@NerdLegionInc Год назад
The fact that you used Baki as an example in an already awesome video about 40k just made me love you. Not many have watched the Original Baki The Grappler. Subbbbbbbbed
@kingmaplesyrup
@kingmaplesyrup 2 года назад
Would love to see a whole summary at the end of the this that describes how a real space marine could be made and maybe an illustration on how a real space marine would look like, inside and out. Very fun video!
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Perhaps
@Sollapoke
@Sollapoke 2 года назад
@@ChrisRaynorMD the inquisition finds this answer…..acceptable. Have a nice day and don’t commit heresy!
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 года назад
40k is weak
@Sollapoke
@Sollapoke 2 года назад
@@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 considering your subbed to Gamza that makes a lot of sense
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 года назад
@@Sollapoke what can I say he right most stuff
@riku2193
@riku2193 2 года назад
I just thought I mention that in Warhammer lore there is a prototype version of the Astartes "Space Marines" called Thunder Warriors. This is what Dr. Chris Raynor would be making here.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 2 года назад
So the thunder warriors had some gastric issues on the prototype
@voidpunkprincess
@voidpunkprincess 2 года назад
So the question is, is the doc either the Emperor in disguise or Malcador the Sigilite?
@thebighurt2495
@thebighurt2495 2 года назад
@@voidpunkprincess He's not glowy enough to be Emps.
@robertjensen4541
@robertjensen4541 2 года назад
Considering the Canon description of the thunder warriors places them above basically every iteration of astartes including the primuses they were definitely effective only issue was their volatility. Which is why the primuses were made in the first place
@DankManPlays
@DankManPlays 2 года назад
The main problem with some of these organs is that they come from The Emperor, who is the most perfect genetic specimen of the human race. He is a Perpetual who is almost completely immortal, and his sons are the templates for the geneseed that every chapter uses. Unless we can genetically modify the fuck out of a human until they get close to being like the emperor or even just a primarch, theres a good chance that we'd never get space marines
@thebossbrothers123
@thebossbrothers123 2 года назад
In support of your post I just wanted to include some details. Nonetheless props Dr. Raynor. It helps to note the Emperor himself, along with the other Perpetual (humans with nigh-infinite life spans and the ability to more or less magically reincarnate (this process functions similarly to magically recreating their entire genenome in anew separate original organism, memories included, after death if they somehow die) used his both his and his fellow's infinitely more stable genes suspectedly mixed with minor Warp Gods (physically unbound beings) to create the Primarchs and then used that sum of overpowered bioscience and more or less magic to create the material and circumstances necessary to develop Astartes. Basically meaning receiving Space Marine gene-seed would be like a humanoid deity gifting you an organ, the stability and viability of which at that point is unquestionable. However, in 40k it is difficult to obtain "stable" (uncompromising) gene-seed and the process is aggressive and unforgiving as their is rarely enough peace to perform it properly. Working modern day, realistic comparisons is a far cry among far cries as you mentioned, and the nigh non- fictional circumstances required to achieve the above definitely require like 30k years. Anyone who reads this despite it probs being incorrect here or there thank you, I was just inspired to give context bc Raynor put in so much work himself.
@GGGmod1
@GGGmod1 2 года назад
thats what the progenoid gland is for
@matthewsmith2979
@matthewsmith2979 2 года назад
Originally he was the avatar of the star child
@neuswabian9442
@neuswabian9442 2 года назад
New lore kinda goes around about it: Primarchs have a father and a mother, for some reason, despite being obviously patterned after Emp. Some primarchs have dna removed, some have dna (even non human one) added, like I believe Leman and Sanguinus. Lore implies they were made this special way to go to their own ideally picked planets, by Emp, behind the scenes, no less and HH was planned (but possibly broke too soon). It is a clusterfrick really. There is double and triple crossing and outsmarting galore. Emp>Chaos Gods>Astarte(their mother) and so on.
@finegamingconnoisseur
@finegamingconnoisseur Год назад
This is the most unconventional space marine creation lore video I've seen. Very interesting to watch, thank you. 👍
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Which of these 6 organs is your favorite? If you could only pick one for yourself, which one would it be? How will YOU start your journey to become a Space Marine?
@Lyray
@Lyray 2 года назад
I guess, I just die in the process. :D Without aenesthetic? Yes. I just totaly die in the operating table. I think, I'd rather just go to Schoola Progenium and be a commissar . :D
@signup5787
@signup5787 2 года назад
Idk considering that children from hive cities are born adapted to suit the grim harshness of the 40k verse. Maybe they have a higher pain tolerance than any of us in this current age. That being said I'd like to go through the process just to be eternally numb to pain
@FeedMeSalt
@FeedMeSalt 2 года назад
I can't chose, being able to spit acid or eat anything including other living things to gain their memories is neat. But so is a brain so advanced you can entertain dozens of thoughts at the same time. I would enjoy being able to cover myself in snot and hibernate as well
@embarkingolive
@embarkingolive 2 года назад
A second heart would imply a myriad of benefits, if I had to choose only one, that would be it.
@HankIndieGames
@HankIndieGames 2 года назад
@@Lyray I'm sure most fans find the combat -related implants more exciting, but for my money the sus-an membrane is the most intellectually tantalizing. Hibernation is effectively time travel! I also like that it works with another organ that prepares the body for hibernation with a waxy secretion. This is one of the better thought -out pieces of pseudoscience in a universe that is usually not big on explaining things in the "hard sci fi" style.
@leroyjenkins4811
@leroyjenkins4811 2 года назад
Thanks again Dr. Raynor for another great 40k themed video! A lot of military members (current active duty, reserve, NG, and retired like me) all love Warhammer 40k very much. Those books and tabletop games sure helped us pass a lot of time on deployments and field exercises. Kept us out of trouble and stopped us from losing our minds to boredom.
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
That is a great idea. I hadn’t thought to do that on exercise!
@xTK421x
@xTK421x 2 года назад
9 yrs. Navy here. Just legitimizing your comment. More often than not I lose with them but I just can't give up on my iron warriors. Is it the battleship gray? Or rather the gun bolt metal. With a chaos hound quick deployment and some Berserkers I have a better time at it.
@beyondthelol
@beyondthelol 2 года назад
so funny to imagine a bunch of soldiers rolling dice in a desert or something lol
@mercy3765
@mercy3765 2 года назад
@@xTK421x Iron within Iron without hoorah!!
@xTK421x
@xTK421x 2 года назад
@@mercy3765 with an Iron fist brother!
@dalaminaubis7822
@dalaminaubis7822 2 года назад
I would imagine that the ribs would be more of an overlapping, interlocked but still flexible set of plates that would still allow a full range of motion and expansion/compression. Then there are the Custodes, who had to be so over the top perfect that they didn't even try to explain them in the lore past "the Emperor scienced the sh¡t out of it".
@the11382
@the11382 2 года назад
I thought Space Marines used assistance from the armor to breathe better?
@Fireclaws10
@Fireclaws10 2 года назад
I mean the explanation for them is their genes are modified at the source rather than comparatively crude implants. They’re essentially completely gene therapy modified.
@adamschasel6004
@adamschasel6004 2 года назад
@@Fireclaws10 don’t forget that there’s also the magical aspect to their creation too
@Fireclaws10
@Fireclaws10 2 года назад
@@adamschasel6004 not to their creation no. The Primarchs yes, not space marines.
@Fireclaws10
@Fireclaws10 2 года назад
@@the11382 They don't. They're perfectly able to breathe without armour
@natesturm448
@natesturm448 Год назад
I'm glad this has been touched on by medical professionals. Really shows what someone has to go through in order to be that class of warrior.
@HypnoticChronic1
@HypnoticChronic1 2 года назад
I appreciate Chris's commitment to actually researching the lore when speaking on the matter, there is not many non 40k fans that would bother doing so. On a side note since looking at fictionalized biology seems to be a trend now with your videos, may I suggest taking a look at a anime called Cells at Work. I would be interested to hear how accurate albeit fictionalized the portrayal of the anatomical functions is in that show.
@CantusTropus
@CantusTropus 2 года назад
Cells at Work is fun. The real dark moment is realising that if the body was an actual society of sentient creatures, it would be an incredibly collectivist and totalitarian one. This gives Cells at Work a weirdly dark edge to it - blood cells who can't "pass their training" are killed off unceremoniously, cancer cells are portrayed as people who just can't fit into society and thus tragic villains whose very existence is incompatible with the world's survival, etc.
@HypnoticChronic1
@HypnoticChronic1 2 года назад
@@CantusTropus Indeed, the Code Black spinoff kind of digs into dark aspect a bit more which I appreciated. It is quite the unique anime overall, kind of a shame they aren't continuing production.
@monolith_g
@monolith_g 2 года назад
That’s a great idea!
@HypnoticChronic1
@HypnoticChronic1 2 года назад
@@monolith_g Thank you, I am glad to see that you and quite a few other people seem to like and or agree with the idea... far more than I expected to say the least.
@Cryptic0013
@Cryptic0013 Год назад
@@CantusTropus I do think it has to be taken into account that the ideas of totalitarianism and collectivism apply to the concept of a state on Earth, where individual people exist independently of one another, but every single 'creature' in Cells at Work is intrinsically linked to the others. They can't exist without one another, and none of them can leave the body they're in because of their very nature. If a bunch of humans are trapped with one another and all of their actions (or inactions) affect everyone else (say you're all shipwrecked together on an island, or trying to start a space colony on Mars), the morality of collectivism is very different than it is in an otherwise normal and open society, because the collective state is being imposed by circumstances and is a hardwired fact of reality, not a decision being made by a totalitarian state.
@nooneimportant460
@nooneimportant460 2 года назад
Stuff like this I usually just say, hey it’s sci fi future stuff don’t think to much about it. But when an expert comes along and asks if I want to know how it’s possible, I’m like yes please lol This was pretty cool. Thanks for covering this man. Much appreciated Edit: Oh and I’m sitting here in the VA same day surgery waiting room, to get my gallbladder removed. So this videos timing was on point lol. Very nice ty
@ShotGunner5609
@ShotGunner5609 2 года назад
The emperor protects brother.
@rm2kking
@rm2kking 2 года назад
I always assumed an Astrtes’ “fused” rib cave is more like interlocking and overlapping plate armor, allowing it to move naturally.
@Mode-Selektor
@Mode-Selektor 2 года назад
Yeah, kind of like how interlocking plates in historical armor worked. I don't believe it is ever described that way, but it would make much more sense.
@rm2kking
@rm2kking 2 года назад
@@Mode-Selektor yeah same. It does seem to be described as more of a bone plate. But I’ve always imagined it can like shift and stuff, exactly like medieval plate armor.
@airplanenut89
@airplanenut89 2 года назад
The Doctor may be referring to the fact that your ribs have joints in the front which allow your rib cage to expand when you are breathing. If these joints are fused, your rib cage won't allow your lungs to expand.
@T3HR3PP4
@T3HR3PP4 2 года назад
Interlocking and overlapping ribs would open another can of fascinating issues.
@r3dp9
@r3dp9 2 года назад
@@T3HR3PP4 Yep. There's a reason no natural animals has interlocking scales/plates/whatever UNDERNEATH their skin. Not to mention all the issues with the attachment points between muscle and bone.
@beauxrathburn
@beauxrathburn 9 месяцев назад
Ive been a warhammer fan for a bit now and the fact I haven’t ran into this man until today blows my mind. A doctor talking about the space marine process. I couldn’t help but instantly subscribe to him! Keep it up!
@you1027
@you1027 2 года назад
As much as the Imperium of Man gets clowned on as "primitive" by the rest of the setting, not all technological advancement is flashy lights and gizmos. The scientific breakthroughs necessary to make their logistics possible would be downright worldchanging. Very cool breakdown, and I really liked the holistic inclusion of meditation towards the end there.
@Notbatman374
@Notbatman374 2 года назад
I mean humans from the age of technology supposedly had way more advanced tech then the imperium has ever made. The most advanced tech the imperium/mechanicum have are scrounged from ancient stc's. Compared to humanity's golden age in setting, they are primitive.
@firmanimad
@firmanimad 2 года назад
This knowledge wasn't seen the way we see "progress" and "technology" today, though. They were long ritualized and codified and became mystical. The Imperium has almost zero innovation.
@Baconator5642
@Baconator5642 2 года назад
@@firmanimad The imperium as a whole sure but there are certain institutions and planets etc within the imperium that do have technological innovation, otherwise we wouldn't be seeing new shit created and added to the lore, there's definitely development of technology, it's just very very very slow
@BrotherSantodes
@BrotherSantodes 2 года назад
I wanna see this dude react to Vulkan's actual size. Like how the physiology of a 12' tall human would even work? How big would his heart have to be? How deep would his voice sound? I met Shaq once and was in awe at his size. Now imagine someone that makes Shaq look like a child, barely reaching Vulkan's chest.
@raro344
@raro344 2 года назад
I remenber in the second book a apothecary is not even sure if primarch biology is similar to a marine.
@johnduex4787
@johnduex4787 2 года назад
@@raro344 They're basically demi gods psychically and biologically
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 2 года назад
Space Marines aren't actually 12 feet tall. They're taller than normal humans, yes, but because almost nobody has ever actually seen one, their actual stature gets exaggerated by rumor and propaganda, just like every other hero humans have ever daydreamed about through all of history.
@BrotherSantodes
@BrotherSantodes 2 года назад
@@deusexaethera Vulkan isn't a Space Marine bro. He's a Primarch. Also the best bro in the galaxy.
@raro344
@raro344 2 года назад
@@johnduex4787 Given the revelation about moloch and the "deal" it can be said they are pretty much high degree demon host of sort.
@neuro_4385
@neuro_4385 2 года назад
Love the humour sneaking in! The whole video is engaging AND has amazing production value :)
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Thanks so much! My editor is killing it!
@Booshly
@Booshly 9 дней назад
Man I do love watching videos where they take a video game character and talk about how they would actually be able to exist. great vid
@alphabladelm2011
@alphabladelm2011 Год назад
I will shamelessly admit I could barely follow half of your explanations but I was definitely hooked on your descriptions of each organ and their possible real life equivalents. Your attempt to scientifically explain how he development of science fiction super soldiers has an excellent mix of scientific knowledge and witty humor. Rock on, Doctor!
@Learn_Daily
@Learn_Daily 3 месяца назад
Good, there is no shame in ignorance. The shame comes from not wanting to change that ignorance. Keep living and learning fellow human.
@ColinGrym
@ColinGrym 2 года назад
I have to say the human trials for that Musk brain implant sounds scary. The 1st iterations of any medical tech are almost always horrific compared to the refinement even a couple of decades later. Obviously you need to have a 1st human trial for anything new, but it sounds like the equivalent of having a 1980's play-Pac-Man computer put in your skull. Plus I REALLY don't want to potentially give corporations access to something like my endocrine system. "Subscribe to Neuralink ULTRA during our Megamind March special and get access to up to 8 dopamine rushes a day for only 24.99/week with a 2-year contract! Our in-house endocrinologists will tailor your hormonal releases to make sure you're muscular, enthusiastic and aroused all day! Disclaimer: allowing your subscription to lapse removes you from our BrainCare Network and is associated with a higher risk of death by rage-filled, shrieking, unstoppable panic attack."
@tarektechmarine8209
@tarektechmarine8209 2 года назад
Tech is awesome, humans on the other hand suck.
@rileybriggs4731
@rileybriggs4731 2 года назад
I mean it's basically drugs but with only the withdrawal symptoms of the drug itself and none of the other associated health risks that come with smoking/injecting things
@MrRawrCEO
@MrRawrCEO 2 года назад
@@rileybriggs4731 I mean yes that would be the advertising pitch. But we're talking about the practical reality not the idealized wish fulfillment.
@rileybriggs4731
@rileybriggs4731 2 года назад
@@MrRawrCEO Lol i wasn't trying to promote hard drugs, but if you were already addicted to drugs and that was your only option, hey man its worth a shot
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
This is why they will likely test it in spinal cord-injured patients first.
@uniquedisplayname6051
@uniquedisplayname6051 2 года назад
I've loved Warhammer 40k since I was about 8 years old. Its great to see a real world doc go into the medical science behind the Space Marine program in such detail. I'm also really impressed that you've also taken the time to get all the terminology correct, which can mean only two things. A. You really did your homework for this one, which is awesome. 2. You're also a Warhammer nerd.
@airsoftdidas2464
@airsoftdidas2464 2 года назад
Just discovered ur channel. As a physicaltherapist I often have problems with what other doctors channels try to present or sell to people but ur content is fonded knowledge with u just being a cool dude. Keep up the fantastic work.
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@cammccauley
@cammccauley Год назад
I love stuff like this. I just recently found some good physicists on RU-vid and now a surgeon. Got a new viewer from me
@kellihorton1142
@kellihorton1142 Год назад
I just found him this week and his content and perspective are so unique and easy to consume! Only upset o didn't find him LONG AGO!
@Vote4Drizzt
@Vote4Drizzt 2 года назад
What I'm digging most about this is that you speak in an informed fashion about the subject matter. We get so many of these where the person goes "So lets see if these ass-tart guys could work." and then just disregard lore that isn't easy to think about. This feels like serious attempt to analogize real world technologies and knowledge to the lore in question, with a real respect for the lore and a willingness to make minor leaps in logic. In short, I love this.
@battokizu
@battokizu 2 года назад
Because it seems that theres enough research done for the lore that it isnt complete bs that these space marines could "theoretically" exist. And maybe theres an idea somewhere that those in the medical field could borrow. It's not the first time fiction helped reality.
@aeternusrex
@aeternusrex 2 года назад
This was an awesome video, as a 40k stan I was excited about how much I learned about REAL modern medicine and how to better understand the lore because of it. Honestly I hope Games Workshop/Black Library call you to help them with keeping things more science than fiction, I can't wait for more
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Daniel-wu6pl
@Daniel-wu6pl 2 года назад
doesnt stan apply to celebrities?
@martis4951
@martis4951 2 года назад
@@Daniel-wu6pl just means to be a super fan of something
@Ryan7456
@Ryan7456 Год назад
my jaw dropped when you showed how we can graft one heart onto another, makes you think what we'll be able to do when we actually get to the year 40,000
@evelynjolly9375
@evelynjolly9375 2 месяца назад
We go cyberpunk 2077 or star Trek if we find semi kind life forum
@Derploop
@Derploop 2 года назад
You know, I thought about the rib problem a while ago, and what I came up with was making the ribs be staggered depth wise, and wider/flatter than normal, so they'd frontally cover all areas from blows from straight on, without taking up the space each rib would need to move around.
@ilyarepin7750
@ilyarepin7750 2 года назад
the interlocking plates dont need to be fused to work as a solid armor, just look at scale armor. They just need to have the right geometry to expand while still providing full coverage.
@loganhagen6294
@loganhagen6294 2 года назад
Changing the depth would require tailoring the intercostal muscles as well, we have two layers of muscles between each of the ribs that help with breathing, so changing the depth requires changing where they attach, as well as which direction the muscle fibers run.
@Skelath
@Skelath 2 года назад
Their chest cavity would have to be monster huge for all those organs, two hearts for example means less room for the lungs to inflate, not only that due to their size and strength output their hearts would be monster huge. Even r0id users and overweight people have massive hearts to support their size and bodybuilders have had heart attacks due to their massive hearts preventing them from getting enough oxygen.
@loganhagen6294
@loganhagen6294 2 года назад
@@Skelath yea hypertrophy of the heart is common in overweight people. Havent heard about it in body builders, but if they arent doing cardio to support the heart it makes sense. And now I'm imagining a whole chapter of space marines dying to plueritis because they dont have room for it to inflame. 🤣
@Skelath
@Skelath 2 года назад
@@loganhagen6294 Yeah, a lot of gear causes hypertension causing hypertrophy of the heart and since the heart is a muscle and the gear they're taking increases the growth rate and their regular exercise is essentially exercising the heart through all that hypertension, well..
@finesthour7068
@finesthour7068 2 года назад
"This means that each bone would need to be broken." For the Emperor, I shall endure any pain!
@stuffums
@stuffums 2 года назад
As someone with pectus excavatum who had the obscure Nuss procedure rib surgery I can tell you it's 10/10 pain for weeks. Yeah ribs are quite sensitive to change!
@Dinstyvmorsa8539
@Dinstyvmorsa8539 2 года назад
Was it severe? Did it cause you problems that made the procedure necessary? Asking as someone that also has pectus excavatum
@RobinCernyMitSuffix
@RobinCernyMitSuffix 2 года назад
Totally, I wasn't able to leave the hospital bed (or even move, or breath normally) for about a week, after that it was quite a bit better, but took several weeks until I stopped feeling pain
@Dinstyvmorsa8539
@Dinstyvmorsa8539 2 года назад
@@RobinCernyMitSuffix Thanks for the answer! I haven't experienced any trouble breathing so the operation wasn't necessary because of that reason. I did get the question if it caused me to feel "shame" about my body and if I wanted the procedure anyway. Said no at the time (early teens), even though it did make me hate my body, didn't want to burden if it wasn't a health issue. But now in adulthood I've wondered if maybe I should.
@stuffums
@stuffums Год назад
@@Dinstyvmorsa8539 It effected breathing and I couldn't play sports and was dangerously close to the heart
@magicmanscott40k
@magicmanscott40k Год назад
I love everything about this video. I'm a warhammer 40k youtuber and I love that the lore could be possible. Fantastic video. Also, "marine mammals" was the the best thing I heard today.
@magoshighlands4074
@magoshighlands4074 2 года назад
You mention meditation when talking about the capesealen node, and you're right about Marines being Warrior Monks, they spend most of their time when not training or eating either praying, maintaining gear or working on projects such as art pieces or books, which while not full on meditation, can help, they also do long stretches of meditation to help centre their minds and keep them on task
@carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319
@carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 2 года назад
Dude this video is crazy. I'd never heard of anyone doing anything like this and I love the pseudo-science and real science concept. I can't wait to see more of this in the future
@ethrilswifthawk3769
@ethrilswifthawk3769 2 года назад
I'm super surprised how well researched and lore aware this assessment is, very very good work!
@ianmatthewkline8279
@ianmatthewkline8279 Год назад
This is really cool! I've been into warhammer for well over 23 years and now a 4th year Immunology PhD student. I appreciate this on so many differnet levels from gaming memories to molecular immunology :) You're awesome and I'm sub'ing
@Emperor_Of_Mankind
@Emperor_Of_Mankind Год назад
The God Emperor has need of your skill, apothecary !
@ianmatthewkline8279
@ianmatthewkline8279 Год назад
@@Emperor_Of_Mankind almost done with this thing, man. I’m destined for the bioweapons division!!!
@LeAlejx
@LeAlejx Год назад
But can we really trust a magos with meaty extremities?????
@DreadAnon
@DreadAnon 2 года назад
This was a really informative and entertaining video! I know a lot about 40k but nothing about medical science 😅
@TheMorous
@TheMorous 2 года назад
Its him funny youtube voice actor !
@Rantalanta
@Rantalanta 2 года назад
Its the funny meme man
@Sanguinerose2324
@Sanguinerose2324 Год назад
This was simply fascinating. I was enthralled throughout the entire lecture. Can I get this man to teach a class on science fiction medical concepts? I'd never miss class.
@t3htaco
@t3htaco 2 года назад
As a 40k fan and physician this is literally amazing!!! You sir are a boss. Thank you for this video!
@gerardolopez9368
@gerardolopez9368 Год назад
Dr. Raynor, I'm humbled to say your the first of your kind I've ever came across. I love your direction!
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 2 года назад
Fun fact: the interlock design for the rib cage resembles the shell of the iron clad beetle that has a fused interlocked shell that is really stupidly hard to break. Even when broken the interlocked joints will pop apart distributing the force across the whole structure. So even if you rammed a marine with enough force to break their bones they would still be able to fuck you up
@firmanimad
@firmanimad 2 года назад
How do you breath tho
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 2 года назад
@@firmanimad either enlarged ribcage or sphericals
@calibula95
@calibula95 2 года назад
@@firmanimad that's the nice part, you don't. It's a good thing this is a power fantasy ip, and you better don't over analyze things.
@tfan2222
@tfan2222 Год назад
@@firmanimad I don’t think in lore they breath like normal people, they don’t use negative pressure or anything like that.
@usonumabeach300
@usonumabeach300 2 года назад
Great video! Though I think it's worth pointing out that the emperor created the astartes 28 millennia in the future, 10 millennia before the current setting in WH40k
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD 2 года назад
Good point!
@JDGhast
@JDGhast 2 года назад
It’s so cool to see nerdy, fantasy stuff looked at seriously by a total pro. Really gets the geeky side excited
@mrblue2715
@mrblue2715 Год назад
As a futurist I can totally appreciate the series Thank you so much for spending your time and making it
@MrGBH
@MrGBH 2 года назад
The Catalepsean Node is actually absent from Black Templars, the guy the graphic showed it being smushed into. The Imperial Fists and their descendants are all missing that implant, which makes the Crimson Fists multiple month vigil during the Rynn's World incident even more impressive
@GeorgeTsiros
@GeorgeTsiros 2 года назад
the... angry marines?
@CorvusCorone68
@CorvusCorone68 2 года назад
@@GeorgeTsiros i think Angry Marines are a fan chapter, not canon
@GeorgeTsiros
@GeorgeTsiros 2 года назад
@@CorvusCorone68 I think the Angry Marines are just another name for Helbrecht's boys.
@Chaplain_Asmodai
@Chaplain_Asmodai 2 года назад
@@GeorgeTsiros nope
@tfan2222
@tfan2222 Год назад
@@GeorgeTsiros They’re not,
@stardeki
@stardeki 2 года назад
As a biologist and a warhammer fan this is precisely the type of content I'm looking for
@ShadowWulfGaming
@ShadowWulfGaming 2 года назад
as someone who always wanted to be one of these guys growing up, i really appreciate the medical depth you go through in this video, and how it relates to modern times
@kristapsmuravjovs7061
@kristapsmuravjovs7061 Год назад
Just stumbled upon this video (the RU-vid algorithm knows me well enough to suggest a 40k video, haha) - subscribed 7 minutes in. I really love how you manage to explain complicated medical terms and concepts so succinctly, allowing the viewer to pause at their own discretion - a perfect balance between a super long video explaining stuff some may already know, and a super short one just glancing over important stuff that even more people may have no clue about.
@talonkendrix6373
@talonkendrix6373 2 года назад
There's actually a space marine chapter named the Charcharodons that use deep meditation regularly and are made to resemble sharks, I think it would be an interesting offshoot on this video if you get the chance to cover it.
@TheCastedone
@TheCastedone 2 года назад
Is this like a comic or something
@matthewbenton4767
@matthewbenton4767 2 года назад
@@TheCastedone it is a "universe" set about 38'000 years into the future, it is a table top game similar to mech warrior and DnD, and has enough book series to last you you a few years, and many great video games. Ultra Marines is a good book to start with. bur with about ~40 different authors and space marine chapters (warrior clans) you can pick up about anywhere just start with the authors first book in his series. I've never found a bad book yet and can read hundreds of pages a day in my down time.
@kailuun
@kailuun 2 года назад
The Carcharadons forebears were the Terran born Raven Guard that were exiled from their Legion during the Great Crusade, following the Battle of Gate Fourty-Two. Prior to Corax being found, the 19th Legion were reknown for ruthless practices during their wars of compliance. The 19th Legion had close ties with the Sons of Horus and Corax suspected that many of the Terran officers held more loyalty to Horus than they did him. Not only that, because the Terrans in his Legion were so much like the Overseers that he overthrew on Deliverance Corax had little tolerance for their presence in his Legion when he took command. At the Battle of Gate Fourty Two, when Horus ordered Corax to lead the assault against the Gate, he had most of the Terran born Ravenguard lead the assault. It was a hopeless, brutal action that most of the Terran born Ravenguard killed, which included the vast majority of the officers. Because of this action the remaining Terrans saw that their Primarch clearly hated them and that they no longer had a place in the Legion. This was further compounded when Corax exiled them. Under the leadership of the former Legion Commander Arkhas Fal, who was known as the Shade Lord, the remaining Terrans, and those Lyceans who Corax felt did not belong in his Legion, were made to form a nomad predation fleet in the region of the galaxy beyond the Imperium's borders known only as the Ghoul Stars. During the Heresy it is unknown what became of them but it is likely elements of them joined the Ashen Claws in prosecuting a campaign against the Night Lords. However at some point following the Horus Heresy they became the Carcharadons.
@breakerofrocks
@breakerofrocks Год назад
@@kailuun The Carcharadons *may* be descended solely from Raven Guard, but in the books Red Tithe and Outer Dark, there are a handful of lines that tell us the Space Sharks are either 1) descended from a core of Raven Guard augmented with a smattering of penitent Night Lords who, over the millennia, on some number of occasions purloined progenoid glands from fallen Night Lords and more rarely World Eaters (honestly the most likely true origin) or 2) stem from a mixed band of Loyalist and penitent Night Lords probably under Jago Sevetarion, who over the many centuries outside the Imperium were forced to sometimes harvest World Eater and Raven Guard gene-seed (this is appreciably less likely than the first possibility). The evidence includes a daemon referring to the Night Lords and Carcharadons as 'brothers' and a Carcharadon marine being called 'traitor-born scum'.
@hughmann9568
@hughmann9568 Год назад
@@TheCastedone Warhammer and Warhammer 40k is a years old game(video and table top) comic and book series. Very outlandish and brutal but always very interesting.
@Kamage07
@Kamage07 2 года назад
Dude who wouldn't watch this? Entertaining on a scientific, medical, and hypothetical level. Thanks for making this, doc.
@TheVTDuprey
@TheVTDuprey 2 года назад
See I love this stuff but idk if it's bc I'm a pansy or what but sometimes when they get in depth about this stuff I have troubles watching bc it creeps me out. It lit gives me the willies sometimes and I have to stop. Lol. Could be all the injuries I've had so it like brings me back to them or what. 🤷‍♂️
@buzzlightyearg3580
@buzzlightyearg3580 2 года назад
I'm not familiar with the reference but I can't deny these evaluation an comparison to today's capabilities is great to hear how close we are an what similar methods today's are used
@mariusevander2214
@mariusevander2214 2 года назад
Well you see , there's this guy, we know him as the Emperor , he created 20 sons ................................................. I suggest watching Lutien here and Astartes where you can find it if interested.
@janhornak5739
@janhornak5739 2 года назад
@@mariusevander2214 i think TTS is much better. At least in comedy.
@clnetrooper
@clnetrooper 2 года назад
@@janhornak5739 depends on what you are looking for. To be honest, while tts is fun there is often mix and match between old and new lore that, in my opinion, don't mix well.
@antilarge7860
@antilarge7860 Год назад
As a 40k fan listening to Dr. Chris Raynor give real life examples of what we know is possible and what we know is not possible to do with the fictional world of 40k gene therapy is great.
@billy6701
@billy6701 2 года назад
I was diagnosed with Langerhan’s Cell Histiocytosis at 9 years of age, and thusly it manifested symptomatic Diabetes Insipidus, Growth Hormone Deficiency and a condition most comparable to Addison’s Disease (adrenal gland issues causing Adrenal insufficiency and Cortisol Deficiency). When I was undergoing growth hormone treatment I did infact face a shortened growth window and accelerated puberty. To aid this I was given an implant every 2 months to inhibit hormones responsible for puberty. I don’t have a crystal clear memory of the exact drug or hormones which it blocked but from my lack of sex drive and inability to ejaculate, I assume testosterone was one of these blocked hormones. Growth hormone treatment could be possible for achieving the desired gigantism, as the shortened growth window can be averted through further endocrinological changes.
@renangaspar4377
@renangaspar4377 2 года назад
You were probably administered a 5α-Reductase inhibitor, so yeah, so secondary male characteristics were delayed, since DHT is the hormone which is the driver for most of those characteristics. I'm glad your doctors knew what they were doing, at least.
@2gj906
@2gj906 2 года назад
What about oversized 👃 and 👂
@billy6701
@billy6701 2 года назад
@@2gj906 They’re not uncharacteristically large- perhaps larger than they would have been normally? Having no comparison to what I could’ve looked like without my condition I have no idea what to tell you :). I don’t believe I have a huge nose or ears if that helps to answer your question.
@lawrencefrost9063
@lawrencefrost9063 Год назад
You are called...Billy? Like in the video? LOL
@billy6701
@billy6701 Год назад
@@lawrencefrost9063 The irony isn’t lost on me. The name on my birth certificate is William, and my family have called me nothing but Billy. Unless I was in trouble 😂.
@andrewamann2821
@andrewamann2821 2 года назад
With this dive into 40k lore, I must recommend that you look into the creation, storage, and deployment of Eversor assassins. I suspect that it would be quite the treasure trove...
@zachjones652
@zachjones652 2 года назад
This was actually very interesting. Nice to look at the 40K Universe from an actual medical point of reality. Amazing how fleshed out this lore is. Keep up the great work!
@thenightwatchmen9063
@thenightwatchmen9063 Год назад
I love how an actual doctor is breaking this down. It’s actually nice to watch. thank you so much for making these videos!
@grimcity
@grimcity 2 года назад
Doctor Chris, I can't even begin to express how damn delightful, fun, and informative this is! Brilliantly done, sir! Thank you for crafting this for us to enjoy!
@mrbyorself
@mrbyorself 2 года назад
This is amazing lol. I'm pleasantly surprised to find someone seriously try to break down my favorite franchise into science!
@rhino2960
@rhino2960 2 года назад
3:55 "built in body armor not so great for chest expansion" if you read that diagram more closely, the rib cage doesn't technically fuse, the ribs are directed to grow into a structure of overlapping plates which protect the previously exposed intercostal areas between them, the diagram itself states if the ribcage were fused, it would be impossible for the space marine to breathe, so instead the now overlapping plates are connected by tough dense connective tissue and ligaments. Also keep in mind the size of the rib cage increases dramatically from this encouraged growth.
@QuantaSolace
@QuantaSolace Год назад
I'm slowly getting into Warhammer lore. This is actually interesting stuff when having it explained in modern medicine.
@Mondo17
@Mondo17 Год назад
I stumbled on a dude named Leutin last week and have since bought a few games and watched way too many videos.
@data9594
@data9594 Год назад
@@Mondo17 daddy cavill got me into building and painting
@kylephaneufmusic
@kylephaneufmusic 2 года назад
I’d love to see a live action movie with the Rock playing a space marine. He’s already done enough HGH to look big enough! Maybe he’s got an additional heart as well?
@dedotrongames6402
@dedotrongames6402 2 года назад
I've got a friend with 3 lungs. They're short, though.
@CorvusCorone68
@CorvusCorone68 2 года назад
@@dedotrongames6402 my uncle has a lion's heart, and a lifetime ban from the local zoo
@dedotrongames6402
@dedotrongames6402 2 года назад
@@CorvusCorone68 I meant my friend has a surgically implanted third lung. Aforementioned friend is short.
@CorvusCorone68
@CorvusCorone68 2 года назад
@@dedotrongames6402 i figured you were serious but i still felt like throwing in a dad joke
@jamesb.russell2942
@jamesb.russell2942 2 года назад
@DedotronGames whoosh
@worstcat8489
@worstcat8489 2 года назад
This feels like the new way to train steeply competent medical professionals; take a concept (even a fanciful one) and exhaustively explore medical doctrine to a pre-determined depth of exposure to relate disparate bodies of knowledge, and help them conceptualize the body as a unified system.
@Bobbelebob
@Bobbelebob 2 года назад
you really know a lot of big words
@Convincing_Reality
@Convincing_Reality 2 года назад
Another possible solution to the sleep conundrum may be in understanding the triggering factor for cases such as Paul Kern's and Thai Ngoc's. Two individuals that no longer required sleep due to brain trauma and illness respectively, with seemingly no further repercussions.
@chuckd9007
@chuckd9007 Год назад
Could be genetic and just happened to gain the insight that they were wasting time sleeping. If i didnt enjoy having dreams so much i would probably sleep twice a week.
@disturbed_myself1192
@disturbed_myself1192 Год назад
This is the first of your videos I've watched, but your explanations of the specific functions of each organ (fictional and non-fictional) were fantastic. Much love from a new subscriber.
@esbenm6544
@esbenm6544 2 года назад
The first Astartes were created around the year 30,000, so it is only about 28,000 years ahead of time.
@ElGreco15
@ElGreco15 2 года назад
Unless you are talking about the Thunder Warriors which were even sooner.
@esbenm6544
@esbenm6544 2 года назад
​@@ElGreco15 They were not Astartes though. Even at the time of their creation, they weren't stable. They would soon start to reject their implants and suffer complete metabolic collapse, rendering the comparison to todays technology rather moot. That they weren't even informed of the side effects only further places that process way outside a current day medical ethics framework.
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 2 года назад
This is fascinating stuff. It just goes to show that even something as fun, but admittedly silly, as a 40K Space Marine is an opportunity for some excellent science communication. Of course, should I wake one day to find myself living under the heel of an army of transhuman super soldiers created by Dr Chris as part of Emperor Kyle 'not a supervillain' Hill's new absolutist regime, then I might feel a little different.
@mariusevander2214
@mariusevander2214 2 года назад
Neuralink piloting a robot is more likely
@josephernest91
@josephernest91 2 года назад
Inquisitor! This one...this one right here. Heresy!
@doomyboi
@doomyboi 2 года назад
@@mariusevander2214 Aww hell yes Titan Princeps are a go
@taliawtf6944
@taliawtf6944 2 года назад
Actually there are two types of Astartes currently, the first are the "first born" who are the OG Space Marines who have the original 19 organs but there are a new breed called Primaris who are based more closely on how a Primarch works which added 3 more organs if I am not mistaken. They are taller, stronger and faster than the already insane Space Marine norm though being young kiddos they are more physically threatening than the old vet Astartes. Either way you don't want either of them aiming for you.
@taliawtf6944
@taliawtf6944 2 года назад
@Lawofimprobability I think the very first batch was... Not sure I'll have to look but they have been recruiting just like the old Chapters did and they even have a process to make First Born into Primaris Marines. Which that is a guy you don't want to fight since that's Primarch like ability with centuries of real combat experience. Lore wise anyway but the new stuff they have not been as in detail as the old I have found. Like how on Terra did a random tech priest manage to do what the Emperor himself could not? Or how no and I mean NO ONE noticed a whole Primaris creation project on Mars of all places with as nosy and tech fetished as the Mechanicum is?
@FlameDarkfire
@FlameDarkfire 2 года назад
@Lawofimprobability the initial batch was, but now there’s the Rubicon Primaris surgery to convert firstborn into Primaris. It’s extremely dangerous and presumably only plot armored characters are surviving it as we’ve really only seen big names going through it.
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 года назад
40k is pretty weak to be honest
@kennypalmer8971
@kennypalmer8971 11 месяцев назад
As a warhammer fan with zero medical education, I found this very entertaining. I understood about a third of what was said, but that still didn’t change the fact that this video was fascinating.
@donda7584
@donda7584 Год назад
This is an underrated video thinning the gap between fiction and fact. i love it. please share this needs more recognition.
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD Год назад
I have shared this but you can help to improve its reach by sharing it also! 👍🏿 Thanks! 🙏🏿
@taylorstout4939
@taylorstout4939 2 года назад
Good 40k content is hard to come by, and as a medical lab tech you have earned a new sub my good sir.
@iliaperez4734
@iliaperez4734 Год назад
Love how the dude actually like knows some of the lore to what a beast
@Sundji
@Sundji 2 года назад
Medical devices I saw in video games inspired me to become a biomedical engineer. It's so interesting to examine the real-life implications of fantastical science. Thanks for the video and I hope to see many more of these.
@matthewbenton4767
@matthewbenton4767 2 года назад
40,000 leagues under the sea was long before the submarine was built. please keep making fiction in to fact. it is the top thing humans do that makes me so proud.
@3rdCharcoal
@3rdCharcoal 2 года назад
I’ve have a auto immune disease called ITP which attacks my platelets when I get sick. I’ve been looking ways to boost my platelets in case I get sick, and you just gave me a list of foods that can help with that. Thanks mate
@Emperor_Of_Mankind
@Emperor_Of_Mankind Год назад
May I recommend something for 'emergencies" ? House M.D. Season 7 EPisode 19 "Last Temptation" Surgeon: Can't see a thing ! Masters: Push calcium chloride. It'll supercharge the platelets and increase the clotting Surgeon: Two amps calcium chloride. Just sayin' :) not medical advice, ask a doctor.
@jakkes770
@jakkes770 2 года назад
First of all super dope. I literally can't get enough of two of my favorite things. Biology and Warhammer ahah. Speaking of the mediation portion reducing total time sleeping, would this in turn reduce the chance for things like the secretion of GH? Like the monks who say a reduction to four hours, seems like a a very short time to adequately release any recovery hormones during deep sleep. Please keep making more of these, easily digestible and very interesting!
@klyddkross
@klyddkross Месяц назад
What's awesome about this video is the fact that you took enough interest in Warhammer Space Marines to do an indepth look at the physiology of these warriors. My hats off to you and my subscription is added.
@guyperson754
@guyperson754 2 года назад
I've been a 40k fan since I was 9 and my older brother bought me the older 5th edition Assault on Black Reach. I am absolutely amazed that an actual, educated, practicing doctor can look at the first six organs of Space Marines and essentially go "Ehhh, probably." I can't wait for the next video where Dr. Raynor gets into the objectively more bullshittery organs a Space Marine has. I wanna know how plausible those are!
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 2 года назад
And they still get clap a humans they weak
@Marth667
@Marth667 2 года назад
Seeing a space marine walk by would make you question what it even means to be human. A combination of genetic and cybernetic improvements that goes right down the trans humanism rabbit hole. Rather then the genetic evolution of the anime Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet where humans turn into squids that can survive in hard vacuum, or the humans that become complete cyborgs in anime like ghost in the shell, in 40k you find a middle of the road approach which are effectively futuristic human strong men that are stupidly strong, intelligent, long lived and resilient.
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