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Survival Shelter - Debris Hut Myths 

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Survival, bushcraft, and primitive skills instructor shares a debris hut survival shelter tutorial at Maine Primitive Skills School. Check out our bow drill fire making video at • Survival Fire Making -... . Learn more at our schools website www.primitivesk...
www.primitivesk... Survival Students build a debris hut at their Earth Living One class and dispell some common myths about the debris hut as part of thir outdoor education.

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@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 12 лет назад
The debris hut is a transitionary shelter requiring no tools to build. It requires no cordage and keeps one warm well below freezing. We use it for the first four to six days before moving on to longer term shelters. It takes this long to forage for and craft water containers, fire, traps, snares, and stone and bone tools. It is a low profile shelter by nature, hard to detect at close range, even masking radiant body heat if built correctly. Hope this helps!
@artzreal
@artzreal 2 года назад
9 years later and it's still helping
@coydogoutdoors
@coydogoutdoors 10 лет назад
this is one of the best vids on you tube when it comes to showing how a good debris hut should look a strong water proof construction great job guys
@genesisdaza6870
@genesisdaza6870 4 года назад
interesting points ,if anyone else wants to learn about survival structures woods try Franaar Escape Death Formula (just google it )? Ive heard some great things about it and my mate got excellent success with it.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 14 лет назад
@mrscaryspider YES! Thank you! Most folks make their first (and biggest) mistake by building an enormous interior, perhaps with the mindset that it should look like a bedroom. Unlike a house, the debris hut relies on body heat to keep you warm. It is SUPPOSED to be as hard to get in as a mummy sleeping bag nearly zipped up, because that is how it works. Thank you for that valuable and often overlooked observation! Respect!
@envirosponsible
@envirosponsible 12 лет назад
It's important to not give trolls or armchair survivalists any energy, but it's equally important to put a stop to all the misinfo they spread. You did an excellent job of both and proved that debris shelters are stable, water proof and long lasting.
@MASAIADVENTURESCHANNEL
@MASAIADVENTURESCHANNEL 2 года назад
Good demonstration
@myra7273
@myra7273 6 лет назад
Friends, always carry a folded-up tarp or large piece of clear plastic sheeting whenever you go outdoors. It makes shelter-making so much more effective in many ways. Keep one in your vehicle at all times, too.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 12 лет назад
Correct, provided it is built correctly. The tolerances take some practice, but once you have it you can build it intuitively.
@HikerJohn316
@HikerJohn316 12 лет назад
Thanks for sharing with us. I stayed in a similar shelter solo for three nights. I had nothing over the branches but pine straw. It rained off and on but I was dry inside. On the last day I was graded for the shelter and other tasks. The shelter received a no-go because the covering was not one meter thick. The grader would not listen to the fact that it kept me dry for three nights of rain.
@everready19373
@everready19373 4 года назад
Yeah, because rain falls like that.......................
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 4 года назад
Exactly! Demonstrating a rate of unreasonable intensity (five gallons in less than three seconds) in a localized spot is a perfect demonstration without having to make people live in them for two and a half years to show how effective and efficient they are. Glad you see the method to our instructional approach.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 13 лет назад
@MissLadyboy007 An initial smudge of punky wood or wet leaves drives out the insects and spiders. The secret to a mosquito free night is two feet of debris and an igloo style door about a third the length of your shelter. They can get thick here, so a basket weave door plug makes it relaibly bug free after your initial smudge.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 13 лет назад
@masterofsedition1 Soil rich in organic material would have the same effect as the leaves without as much porosity. This means you would have to add more organic soil in order to achieve the same insulating effect. The rain run of, or in this case, the ten gallons of water pured directly on the shelter, is shed mostly by the shape of the structure and the thickness oof the debris. Minumum required is about two feet, for water as well as mosquitos/black flies.
@MrBudwv
@MrBudwv 14 лет назад
Nice hut, Fit for a hobbit! "Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell," :)
@canadiancryptidscanadasbea8335
Hey mike did not get wet when he climbed on top of the shelter that makes me wonder if you guys were useing dry water for the rain test ?
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 12 лет назад
@BBP081 We've lived in them mutiple weeks, to include prolonged heavy rain events without leaks. It is just too boring to show on video. Plus, we have too much going on with classes and training for such a lengthy project right now. But it is definetely something to consider. Thanks!
@inonoma2288
@inonoma2288 9 лет назад
Do you get enough air if you sleep with the doorplug in all night?
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 8 лет назад
+Styrk Finny Yes, plenty. The Debris hut is an air flow management system. Core temp. heats the air forcing exchange.
@daboodeef179
@daboodeef179 9 лет назад
Why would people criticize a debris hut? People have been using them for thousands of years...
@Lifeformhuman
@Lifeformhuman 6 лет назад
Someone mentioned snakes in the comments below. If you sprinkle moth balls around the perimeter, would that keep snakes and spiders away?
@millerthedog
@millerthedog 6 лет назад
Good job!!!
@tylerryder2735
@tylerryder2735 10 лет назад
I'm in Lincoln where are you guys located in Maine id love to beable learn in person someday
@shaleko232
@shaleko232 11 лет назад
New to this whole mind set. But eager to learn before it's to late. I was wondering if you were to dig down inside the shelter. So you're sleeping below ground level. Any thought on that idea? Is it not a good idea? Or Bad?
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 11 лет назад
We sometimes look for depressions that accumulate leaves and fill them as it is of primary importance to create a barrier between you and the ground to prevent conduction. Another concern is rain or groundwater filling the depression, so making sure the shape and wall thickness of the shelter extends beyond the depressions edge is also important. We only invest energy digging to create a low profile shelter. Hope this helps.
@shaleko232
@shaleko232 11 лет назад
Thanks for the quick response. As I said I'm new to the whole idea of to use a shelter if needed.
@mrouterrim
@mrouterrim 13 лет назад
I always wonderd if they leaked or not
@PYE172
@PYE172 11 лет назад
yes good job
@StephanieG1
@StephanieG1 13 лет назад
Very nice debris hut! What about spiders and other creepy crawlies? I suppose if they bother you, then you aren't the wilderness survival type. lol
@hobbexp
@hobbexp 14 лет назад
hhehe,, that was great, im on my way out, i think i start to make my self one fredde
@theflyingaussie4336
@theflyingaussie4336 6 лет назад
One spark you buggered! apart from that...not bad
@bradleytinstruction1350
@bradleytinstruction1350 8 лет назад
I live debris shelters.
@stevensonrojas1747
@stevensonrojas1747 4 года назад
Not certain about the points made but ,if anyone else wants to discover wilderness survival shelter designs try Franaar Escape Death Formula (do a search on google )? Ive heard some awesome things about it and my mate got excellent results with it.
@donrussell8889
@donrussell8889 6 лет назад
that's far from having it rain all night, bro. The leaves rot in short order, folks. They are mostly not available.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 6 лет назад
I've lived in one just shy of two and a half years without a leak and minimal upkeep. After thirty one years of homing this skill, I believe your assessment lacking in direct experience. Beech and oak leaves are rich in tannins, which make them slow to decay. They also remain on the tree until late Winter/Early Spring. Come to one of our courses. Not only will you learn a great deal, you will have fun doing it.
@JesseBCO18
@JesseBCO18 8 лет назад
Does anyone else hate the super loud toyota commercials on here?
@ArtisanTony
@ArtisanTony 14 лет назад
Just don't build one over an ant colony like I did one time, :)
@ModalSoul
@ModalSoul 7 лет назад
ArtisanTony this is my current situation now unfourtunately.
@RealityStar9
@RealityStar9 12 лет назад
I heard you should pee around you perimeter to keep animals away.
@evandorco5193
@evandorco5193 4 года назад
How do you deal with the ticks in dibris shelters
@yelrahkcorb
@yelrahkcorb Год назад
How the hell is it so sturdy to hold a grown man?
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills Год назад
It is comprised of two of the most stable architectural designs, a tube of triangles covered in an arch of debris.
@carlbernsen1290
@carlbernsen1290 5 лет назад
Very late comment but great video. Less warm if all the leaves are wet to start with of course. The other point to remember is how much time and energy it takes to build one. It’s not something to start when it’s getting dark so for someone lost in the woods they need to allow a good few hours. And remember the deep bed of leaves inside.
@MrCableguyken
@MrCableguyken 14 лет назад
Good job on waterproofing it, but I like to be able to get in and out a little faster.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 12 лет назад
In this area, the four common lianna's (propper name for woody vine like structures) are too brittle (asiatic bitter sweet, and canada moonseed) or are too valuable as a food and water source for all manner of wild life to use as cordage. The substrate was too delicate to harvest rootlets (eastern hemlock, balsam fir, spruce, and pine ssp. the preferred cordage plants). The understory was thick enough to warrant pruning.
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 13 лет назад
@MrCableguyken While the debris hut is sound enough to walk on top of, it is also easy to push out a wall if you need a quick exit. I learned this after entering a debris hut I left unattended for a few weeks waiting for the "coldest day of the year". Apparently, the raccoon I disturbed had the same idea. Making a "debris hut" in to a "lean to" is not generally recommended if you want to keep warm below freezing without need of a fire.
@SkogKniv
@SkogKniv 14 лет назад
Well done guys!
@primitiveskills
@primitiveskills 12 лет назад
The green leaves are from the fresh saplings, in this case Sugar maple, used to make the door plug hoops. Good eye!
@endurance8910
@endurance8910 7 лет назад
just put a tarp over the frame then pile the debris on....even more waterproof,
@BBP081
@BBP081 12 лет назад
I think a better test for water proofing would be to get a garden hose with a head that makes spray, aim it so it arcs up and then down on to the shelter for 8 hours, check every hour for water accumulation by dabbing the inside with paper towel and ring it out into cups to measure water volume. Do this with a few different types of shelters and compare. The test would be time consuming, but it looks like you guys enjoy using your spare time for this anyway.
@mogges1
@mogges1 12 лет назад
Ok I have tried this as well but when it raining day after day for like a week.you will have some leakage. the next problem i have found is having to stay in this when its raining for a week.
@capnncoke
@capnncoke 12 лет назад
the fresh green leaves do not stick out with the pile of dead debris
@MrEasyrhino
@MrEasyrhino 14 лет назад
Awsome job guys!goes to show that a debris shelter done right can save a life when the chips are down and you know what you're doing.keep up the great vids guys!cheers.
@mogges1
@mogges1 12 лет назад
I built it up to 3 feet on top and side's but with steady down pour for 5 days waters going to seep in
@joshroberts1284
@joshroberts1284 10 лет назад
nice as I seen from Main primitive skills folks videos sound advice and best tips out on you tube, respect to all the dirt time those folk put in.
@BushCraftBums
@BushCraftBums 14 лет назад
Great stuff Guys, Thanks so much.
@nebdar
@nebdar 12 лет назад
how many feet of debris did you put on initially?
@maponicspro
@maponicspro 14 лет назад
That was really cool. Thanks for posting this video.
@MrSIXGUNZ
@MrSIXGUNZ 7 лет назад
freaking awesome video!!
@Balgore8
@Balgore8 13 лет назад
Cool vid guys
@timmysheredy9240
@timmysheredy9240 9 лет назад
Wow
@capnncoke
@capnncoke 12 лет назад
So thermal imaging will not detect you while in this shelter?
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