@@ohyeahyeah8054 no they arent i have a mechanical pocket watch and its great sure you have to keep it wound but if it stops ticking wind it back up no need to pay for a battery or no chance of breaking all because someone wanted to change the battery them self
@@evandeland6867 you have to they break over time, witch is more expensive than replacing the battery, also if it's not an expensive watch, you are gaining or losing a lot of seconds each day... In other words just get a timex
@@ohyeahyeah8054 thats why i keep winding it and resetting the time mudder makes great watches and they are 20 to 30 dollars a watch so they are worth the money if you keep up with them
@@mothman4672 LOL I'd say, merely having a zippo says something. Hi ladies, I'm here... I'm a man... I appreciate good solid engineering... and, yes, that IS gasoline you can smell ; )
You know you've successfully branded when a product comes out that fixes nearly all of your products issues, but people claim it's a completely different lighter, in a bad way. Ha.
People buy shit not purely off functional use. Zippos are just cool. They look and sound cool. This case while fixing the evaporation makes it not cool. I mean, if you wanted a lighter that won't evaporate and you didn't care about the cool factor, just get a $2 butane lighter from the gas station.
@@xxxxxx5868 that was my point though. You know you've successfully branded when what is considered a bug everywhere else is a feature for your product. Lol Don't get me wrong. I have a zippo or two. But they're just not useful or practical to me, so they sit in my garage leaking fuel and collecting dust.
didm you know zippo is not a lighter design its a hinge? the lighter design was around for decades before one guy decided a separate lid was not covenant so he added a hinge and the zipo was born lol a 99% stolen design with a major function change that stuck...
I spend 5-7 months a year on my yacht... so this actually looks pretty good despite its flaws. It stays lit, which is a major benefit over a bic/clipper and important when dealing with certain seamanship tasks. And it still IS a Zippo in my eyes. Sure, the Zippo case is nice, especially when you're out about town - but it's all about the aesthetic. And aesthetic concerns shouldn't enter into survival gear except as a tiebreaker. The business end is the insert, and the insert is a Zippo : ) I've also ordered a Japanese "douglass" waterproof trench - and I have a feeling it's probably gonna be the better lighter for me. I just wish it would hold more than one extra flint... I can stack them in the bottom of a zippo, and have flints for a year. Still, taking both gives me storage and options. I currently have a cotton-rope lighter in my ditch-bag. Thing is, the chances of getting shipwrecked somewhere are very slim these days. My main ditch equipment is a waterproof, floating, GPS-equipped Satphone. In a bad situation, nothing else beats being able to phone home. It literally cuts survival exposure down to days... so, in most situations, my biggest concern is making a decent cup of tea ; )
@@FrankDrankA_Skank Well, I do port in a lot ... But, some places there are virtually no services (or people) and all you can do is anchor off - so you still have to be self sufficient : ) I've a bilge keel, and I have been known to take the ground somewhere VERY remote and treat the yacht as a land shelter for a month or two. Again, you have to be self sufficient if doing this (fortunately, I can desalinate seawater) My longest regular bluewater passages, where I have no options for landfall at all, last about 6 weeks at most (Atlantic crossings) But you should ALWAYS be ready to be damaged, de-masted or badly flooded and be unable to make way... and, in those circumstances, you may need to rig something up to get batteries charged and the radios working. So you definitely need a lighter you can depend on... it's also your emergency soldering iron ; ) Sorry for the late reply, I've just finished a (mostly solo) circumnavigation, and spent rather too much time exploring the Pacific island chains.
I used the tip from a plastic finger glove at the bottom to the top inside. I think is going to help keep the fuel from evaporating from the bottom completely. Zippo is Earth friendly
I agree that it does take away the look/style of a Zippo, no doubt. This is an interesting idea for sure. I replaced my zippo insert with the Vector butane, so this is something i may use to actually have a purpose for the Zippo insert i have lying around.
I have one of these that I use for camping. Other than camping I have a zippo in my pocket. These have their place, like a gshock watch vs your every day wear.
I love my zippo, and will probably keep it as it. With that said, when I go out for days in the back woods and am more concerned with survival if something happens this is a great option. get the a zippo flame with a case that keeps the fluid for days/weeks while out in the back country.
I have been looking into an option that replaces the bottom cotton layer of the insert. Its metal, it has a rubber gasket that goes between the cotton and the metal bottom. Also the new bottom has an rectangle shaped o-ring. And it has a storage spot for an extra flint.
I think this would be a great option for camping, just for the waterproof aspect. There are folks that go kayak camping as well, and this would be great to take along and ensure you can start a fire at the end of the day. Do they make them in orange?
Out of all the fuel efficient lighter fluid options, I think the Zorro insert the one with the metal gasket is probably the best for that purpose. They also have a chimney cap attached to the wheel is further enhance the seal. Better than the plastic shrinkable gaskets for the original and the Thyrm. But I don't have one, they are extremely rare. ZippoFantic has one though. Either way a butane insert is the better solution as I get odorless flame and no need for wick, cotton, or lighter fluid.
I can get the _Butane Lighter Insert Double_ from official Zippo Australia website for AU$52.95 or the Thyrm case for AU$70. I think I'll go with the gas.
You could just store the insert in the survival case, then when you want to use it just stick the insert back in the original zippo case. That way you are saving more fluid long term.
I prefer butane torches. You can style them, they are reliable, butanes cheap enough,they burn hotter, and you can find some nice ones for 15-30 bucks. But I do enjoy the look of zippos
@@JS-te4gz I don't smoke anymore, I just carry one for my edc. But for everything. Cigarettes. Cigars. Burning the end of ropes, light candles, fires, etc.
I think I'm gonna buy that so i can keep my filled insert for a long time. Then when i go to parties or when there's somebody i want to impress i'll just chuck the insert back into its original stylish case, ready to use without wastage of fuel!
Definitely respect your opinion I just have to disagree. The reason I like the Zippo is because it's perfect for shtf. You can use so many different types of fuel with the Zippo. And now that I know there's a case that will keep the fuel in there longer makes it that much more valuable in shtf. Different philosophies, different opinions on the matter. I definitely like the feel and look of the original case. But I think the case you're showing here increases it's utility significantly. Thanks for the review man
huh guys you dont know well zippos. I am from Turkey and love this lighters and will give you a trick if you do not want your fluid gone quickly. You must fill your zippo more and more cotton!!! If you do that believe me your zippo will go longer! As to Thyrm it looks good like military use but really expensive, a zippo price
Finally a decent solution but You are better to just get a butane lighter I agree you lose your zippo with this case but it’s good for a bugout bag maybe or someone who isn’t attached to the whole zippo feel and wants a more reliable naphtha lighter
Though evaporation is a concern I personally disagree with your comment about a bic being more reliable than zippo. As an outdoorsman living in an environment with very cold winters i prefer zippos to bics because zippos do better in the wind and do much better at cold temperatures than bics do, since butane won’t evaporate below around 30F. As long as I make sure to fill mine up before I go out I never have to worry about the fuel evaporating before I get back to civilization.
I agree with you so much man. I love Zippo for style, smell, sound and of course for being lighter. That case is just ruining everything... Btw I have 6 zippo now! Yaaaaaay 😄
I have to agree with you on the aesthetics. I keep a torch insert in mine and use it for cigars and whatnot. Evaporation is never an issue with the insert.
It sound just something I would say!!! 100% you said it for me!!! And size goes on my list! Thank you for trying it for us,so we dont have to waste the money and time on this case!!!
@1:18 I really like the fluid vs the butane gas. When its cold this type of fluid works best. Ive looked at the Douglass field s to get a leakless naptha lighter but ive never tested it myself
If your concerned about evaporation, I think the thunderbird insert looks better overall, even butane kinda defeats the purpose of having a zippo... Or you could just keep extra fuel in the little canister and use it when you need it
I just watched this for a second time, and there is one problem with flint lighters that I encountered, and this case would probably prevent this problem. Ferro-cerium flints corrode once the “paint” is removed when you strike it. I put a Bic lighter in my glove compartment for an emergency and some time later, maybe 2 or 3 years, I took it and and it would not spark. The flint had corroded to a fine powder. I also saw a pack of off-brand flints in a drug store once and all the flints in the package had turned mostly to dust. This won’t happen if fluid is in your lighter, and it will not happen to new unused Zippo flints, so this case would prevent that by keeping air out.
For camping or a bug out bag you can get a peanut lighter pretty cheap, those have a gasket and don't lose fluid. If you are using a zippo every day, fluid evaporation should not really matter.
The insert is Zippo, you use Zippo fluid, and it has the same windproof resistance .. So it's still a Zippo. You just want the Zippo click, and that's the only thing missing.
1:15 Okay, no offense dude, but no. Bics are nowhere near the functionality of zippos. Zippos can take like 5 times the wind that a bic can, zippos are much more reliable, and zippos usually last a lifetime. I want a functional windproof lighter that doesn't evaporate all of its fuel. You say there are better options, but there really aren't. The zippos only real problem is that it evaporates its fuel, this fixes that. As far as better lighters go, the Douglass field s is definitely better. It's also over a hundred bucks. But unless I'm just not aware of them, there really aren't any cheap alternatives to a zippo in a case like this
I like zippos because they work, they just work. And they never stop working even for years to come, it's not just a lighter, it's YOUR lighter. You just need to maintain them here and there. I definitely agree about them being a completely different lighter.
I noticed the spring that pops the lid open favors one side of the hinge. Q: When the lid is closed does the lid sit flush on the o-ring or is it off-center slightly? Or does it click in snug enough to not matter? I'm just curious if that's a design flaw as it doesn't seat evenly, which could cause failure when it doesn't pivot on a center axis.
thank you for the review ,. you say you put the fuel at the end of the series on zippo gasket. So to my calculation it'd been 6 weeks and still running right? also did you get a chance to use it much later to see if it still holds the fuel ??
I would buy that if not for hitting your finger on the opener.. looks cool though. I’ve always owned a zippo but loosing the fluid is annoying. I also have the hand warmer
Another problem with a zippo or other flint lighter if you fall in a lake or stream is that you would have to dry it out. I could see this in a survival situation where water proof is needed also if you are in the field in military for weeks on end, it's nice to not to have to carry extra fuel.
You can have both one for the bag and one for the pocket or home. Zippos I have one with an Irish saying next to my Grandparents picture the were smokers the Zippo they had next to there cigarette pack.
I've owned the Thyrm for 2 years and the fluid evaporates just as fast as any other zippo case. It's not even close to air or water right. The spring is also garbage and after one year the top always sticks even with the latch fully pressed. Being plastic it feels so cheap in the hand, too. Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the price it is.
Zippo looks better in original case but if somebody wants survival lighter and doesn't want bic this is a good choice plus it will run almost on any liquid that will burn
You can not insert the 2 butane type/model insert, will stuck because of the push button!! But its suit with the BATT USB CHARGER. I had tried insert the 2 butane type/model.
I bought a fake thyrm, after closing the lid 5 to 8 seconds it vaccums like air tight so you have to open it using 2 hands. At least for storage you won't lose as much of fuel. 😄
I fill my Zippo on Sunday it lasts a week and doesn't leak what are you doing over filling it I don't understand this is a design that's been around for a very long time if it had so many issues you would think it wouldn't be so popular
Zippo is the original fidget spinner. Another drawback is you can't lay it flat to light a fire. Pipe insert helps. IMCO much better for this but it doesn't have that Zippo click I love and just as bad at fluid retention.
Pretty cool, but I think if you're just going to throw this in a survival pack you may use tomorrow or perhaps in 2 years; a simple cheap bic lighter would be the better option.
Why won't a company make one of these sealed cases out of metal? WTH? No one likes the way Zippos evaporate. This is a good concept. What happens when you close it on a hot Zippo? The plastic is going to melt.
This device highlights the current tendency to overthink edc in general. If you use a lighter REGULARLY, a zippo is the same excellent solution that it has been for what, almost 80 years? If you don't need a lighter regularly, then buy a cheap butane and put the darn thing away somewhere till you need it.
Hahaha... Zippo in a Survival situation!? That's funnier than a vegan at a hot dog eating contest. Best survival lighter's a bic. No battery, nothing to go wrong, they can stay in storage for a decade, super light and small, can be lit a thousand times, maybe more.