H20fanatic20 I’d be more surprised if you didn’t have ptsd after that. What they saw will truly haunt them forever! The fire haunts me and I wasn’t there but I think of all those who perished were murdered daily.
Definitely. at one point, he was hanging out a window, next moment he thinks he’s gonna suffocate, the next moment he’s escapes. He’s probably in need of some serious therapy.
Same with the guy in the tan shirt (0:50), whenever he talks about the event, you can tell from his pacing and facial expressions that he's reliving the horrors he saw as he does.
My heart was racing listening to the African-English Dad with the daughter and wife running down the stairs the through the smoke - he was so animated, I felt like I was literally there with him as he told his story. I was truly saddened and disturbed watching all the footage from this horrific event. I actually cried. My heart goes out to all who lost loved ones at this time.
He has one of those voices and dictation that could be very adept at voiceovers, or any voice duty (narrating, etc). Can you imagine him reading children's books? No kid would NOT be paying attention!
"Was the building made of cardboard?" It would have been better if it were. Polyethylene is a fuel. The building was clad in a solid form of a petroleum product. Manufacturers and inspectors knew and must be held accountable.
Truly heartbreaking. They shouldve had the sprinklers & all safety measures checked every several months!! This was 100% preventable!! May the souls rest in peace.. may this never happen again..
Sepi838 what fire alarms? there was no central alarm system at all except peoples household fire alarms which could not alert the whole building. In the corridors there should have been those red fire alarm call points to sound an alarm for the whole building. The first person who should be arrested is the surveyor/ person in charge of fire safety who allowed people to live in that death trap.
Firefighter here: Although in most high-rise buildings you will see a "shelter in place" plan for fires, as they can usually be contained to certain floors. HOWEVER, as with Grenfell, we never know for sure what variables we may face. You were born with a powerful tool: gut instinct. If you are in this situation, get out. Your instincts will tell you of you need to do something. Get out, get safe.
I remember watching a video about the Sewol disaster in Korea and one of the people on the ship said “ the people who survive are the ones who leave and the ones who die are the ones who stay put “. So true in many disasters.
/@@BlessedTruly2014 9-11 victims above the fire had no chance whatsoever. The rules clearly state in buildings that lifts are not be used in the event of a fire. And even if they did, how would they choose who goes down in it and who stays?
@@johnbird7357 no kidding, that has nothing to do with my comment. I know those poor souls couldn't get out, I was talking about the building telling people to stay put THAT COULD GET OUT. & I said AFTER that day I'll always try to get out if God forbid I'm ever in a building going through that. Good day
@@johnbird7357 there were a few people who were able to survive 9/11 even though they were above the floors where the plane struck taking the chance to go down the stairs gives you a tiny possibility to live, in contrast with those who stayed put and died in the collapse
@@i_am_a_toast_of_french They must have moved at Olympic sprinter speed to get past it before the fuel tanks exploded. Given a choice of an agonising death by burning or inhaling smoke and a split second you won't even know about when you hit the ground at 90+ mph head first, I'd say the 'Falling Man' made the right logical decision, but it took a certain amount of bravery to jump.
Gareth Thomas You're the childish one. Who are you to attack someone's legitimate religious belief? Karma is a fundamental belief of millions of Buddhists around the world!!
Actually, it could be argued philosophically, that lions and tigers don't deserve 'karma', as they are killing to survive, rather than having an immoral intention (it is 'intent' that starts the karma circle). They also don't have the ability to understand what they are doing is 'immoral'. I also don't think there is any religion, which applies 'karma' to animals - only humankind. Animals cannot understand morality, and so they cannot have immoral intent. Nor is 'karma' some magical reward or punishment of a good or bad deed, if I understand it correctly- even though it's commonly misunderstood as such. At it's very basic (though there are further complexities surrounding it), it is the logical link between deed and consequence. 'Bad' deeds do logically tend to bring more negative consequences than 'good' deeds. You could therefore say, Gary is entirely reasonable, in pointing out that those who committed an immoral deed (ignoring the risk to lives they had responsibilities to protect, in favour of money) will bring a natural bad consequence for those who engaged in that particular immoral action. Criminal charges are likely. But really, he probably just engaged in a common (but usually fairly accurate) saying, rather than a deep philosophical point. You need to stop getting your knickers in a twist over it.
god does exist. you are literally in gwr for the worlds ugliest face. don't ask me where I found it cause it is somewhere else. oh wait. just climb your forehead and look for it.
Some people will never understand the emotional rollercoaster of survival and fight or flight responses that the guy in the green shirt experienced that night.
This is so sad, and it really bothers me that so many people suffered this way. I survived a fire but my 7-month-old and her father didn't. I couldn't imagine the pain, the fear the helplessness.
That man saying he just needed to sleep broke my heart. He is so haunted and he's holding it in. The utter lack of sleep can push someone with ptsd right over the edge. He needs therapy and help and I hope he and all those who escaped or watched or helped are starting to heal from the trauma
The night of this fire I was asleep I had a dream an Indian woman in a green and blue sari was hiding from the fire under a table with her child, they were afraid she was crying I put my arms around her, then the fire engulfed them from the floor and I saw the several floors below as if I was a spirit visiting each floor below, they were high up. I dreamt they floated away somewhere cant explain it. Woke up saw the news. I don't know who that lady was with the child or if it was even real, but it felt like I was in that room. Her sari colours are still clear in my mind 2 years later. God Bless their souls xx
El F, many times over, from that night till now I have prayed for them, I will never forget their faces. My heart aches thinking of what they went through.
I truly don't understand how almost the entire building was engulfed by a little refrigerator fire. I just don't understand. And they're not really touching on that.
I'm assuming you are not from the UK, as it's been covered extensively here? It was engulfed due to illegal aluminium cladding on the building, which was highly-flammable (and highly conductive, meaning fire spreads quickly through it). The government has been seriously cutting funding to councils, and this council responded by using cheap (and illegal) cladding. All it took was fire touching the cladding, and it started climbing the building at a quick rate. In addition, there were no sprinklers, and so nothing to control the fire, once it started climbing (and it climbed and spread much quicker - and much higher - than the firefighters could cope with). The law changed in 2007, meaning all new apartment buildings, must have sprinklers. But stupidly, that wasn't made compulsory for older buildings (like Grenfell). So it all went up like a candle.
I know you posted this question a whole year ago, but if you still have questions look up JUSTICE FOR GRENFELL - DOCUMENTARY on YT and it will tell you all the horrible, uncaring and greedy reasons.
@@crazyhai6554 Plenty of residents in tower blocks don't want a sprinkler system. If a small fire starts and is only extinguished by the tenant after the sprinklers come on, the whole building gets flooded fio rnothing. Nobody has asked why the man never had a fire extinguisher in his kitchen. He left it to burn, opened the window, and ran for it.
@@johnbird7357 when he phoned the fire brigade they asked him to wait outside his property. As the fire was internal, and the flats had internal fire doors this was the advice he was given for his own safety at that time. That's why no one is asking that question.
@@iidava2220 Obtain the number of tenants, subtract the number of survivors, subtract anybody reported missing and still not found, (that will be none) the number of dead is what's left. Not exactly rocket science but some people can't see it. They are Labour voters.
@@johnbird7357 again, due to the timing of this interview they couldn't obtain death certificates due to most of the bodies not being found. It's not rocket science.
I cannot even begin to imagine how these people must have felt... my heartfelt condolences to everyone affected by this horrible tragedy.. in the midst of this terrifying chaos, many of the people who were trapped tried to help others escape... This in itself brings me to tears... they were/are all heroes!
Oh lets see some cute pictures of Prince George & Charlotte. There is zero coverage of the aftermath of what is happening to the survivors of this horrific ~ totally preventable ~ horror movie and real life tragedy. Where are these people? But the media shows Kate Middleton's shoes ~ What has been done to help the survivors of this nightmare? Cut the corny music ABC news
If they took half of Kate’s budget for clothes, hair, makeup and gave it to the survivors most of them would have homes now. They spend their time attacked Meghan Markle more than they talk about this and more than they help.
@@harrybaker8008 Three weeks is not enough. They still talk about Prince Philip’s funeral right now and it’s been three months. Three weeks for all these people who died at the negligence of the royals, the prime minister, and all those posh people who don’t do their jobs properly.
Remember seeing this when it aired on TV & I cried my eyes out. This was so horrific!! So extremely sad for the families affected by this! Nobody should die this way. May these families continue to rest & heal from this.
@@Gencturk92 to be fair if the fire had been contained in the original flat then the stay in place made sense. Unfortunately the cladding allowed it to spread externally.
@@MG-bs5mr well yeah obviously but this was different and they were continuously told to stay put... but to be honest even if they were told to leave they couldn't because there was only 1 staircase and it had gas pipes fitted near them that blew up, the stairs were pitch black in smoke so no chance for people on the upper floors to survive.
I live in a high-rise tower about the same age as Grenfell. Every time the fire alarm goes off I bolt. I don’t care if they tell me I am safe or not. I hear the fire alarm, I’m out. Also, my building has the original 70s brick facade and I love it. There’s no aluminum and plastic cover to bake our tower like a potato in tin foil. If that cladding had not been installed the fire in Grenfell would stayed isolated to unit it started in. People should be in jail. 😤
I was in London visiting at the time as a summer trip and I was in traffic and there were so many cars and me and my parents and sister were just watching as the firemen past us by at the time I didn't know what was happening neither did anyone els. I get to the hotel and I turn on my phone and this story was all over the news. The next morning we get on the subway and there is just a bunch of people trying to get to there destination but they shut down some lines. This was a a truly horrific and heartbreaking event and I can't even imagine what these survivors have gone through. All my condolences to the families and friends of those who have perished in the fire and also to the survivors.
This kind of reminds me of the station club fire where due to faulty building construction (the proprietor choosing to buy cheaper but highly flammable insulation) the whole place caught on fire in 5 minutes and killed nearly 200 people
The fires at Grenfell Tower in London and the Station Nightclub in Warwick, RI also remind me of the fire at the UpStairs Lounge in New Orleans, LA back in 1973 and the 1987 fire at King's Cross Station in London as well as the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
For those of you who have never been through something traumatic I hope to god your never able to relate to this but if you do I’m praying for you and your not alone. I pray for grenfell. Those people were murdered this was totally preventable shame on england
It's been a couple of months since the Greenfell fire, and it still hurts. Although I was not directly affected my heart really hurts to watch this. No one deserves to die like that. May all the souls that perished rest in peace and the families affected find peace.
Yeah... so many burned to death because the fire moved so fast. I can't imagine how terrified I would be to see the floor underneath me on fire. That image is so horrific. And that poor girl artist who just had show. She and her mother did try to go down the stairs.They were found there. She died from a combination of smoke inhalation and burns.Her mother died first a couple of floors up.
I remember watching this live from ITV on Facebook seeing peoples shadows cross the Windows, people jumping out. The screams I don't think I'll ever forget. All these deaths caused by cheap cladding. If they spent just £2 more on each piece of cladding, the would be less if not no deaths. I'm disgusted to even live in the UK now, worried for my future and my safety. I only ever hear about Crime, starvation, poverty, Budget Cuts and Death. This Country is nothing like what I read in School books, this Country is corrupt and cares more about Money than the 50+ people that died in that Tower, or the 63 Murder investigations in London which overtook New Yorks for the very first time. This is not Great Britain.
Great Britain is not new to these horror stories of greed, gross incompetence and criminal negligence. See the Summerland fire disaster, Douglas, 2nd August 1973. British contractors and councils learnt nothing. Yesterday it was Oroglas, nowadays is Reynobond but the results are all the same: mass murder by fire.
The firefighters are being unfairly condemned for their "stay-put" strategy!! Hindsight is all very well, but the alternative would have been, if possibly even worse. The firefighters would have been trying to climb the narrow stairs, carrying their equipment, to reach the seat of the fire, against a panicking crowd of people, some clutching valuable possessions with frightened small children, babes in arms, blocking the staircase in their rush to get to ground level & safety down a narrow staircase filled with smoke!! Surely it was the rational decision, under the known conditions at the time, to tell people to remain in their flats specifically to avoid this scenario, which would have prevented the firefighters from reaching the fire leading to greater loss of life as it spread unhindered!! An "orderly evacuation" is a great theory, but doesn't work necessarily when dealing with terrified & confused people trampling over each other to reach safety! The London Fire Brigade are NOT incompetent, stupid & uncaring human beings, but dedicated men & women ready to put their own lives on the line to save the lives of others! As such, they deserve our support & understanding of the dangers they face daily!!
Exactly. They didn't know about the cladding. That is the real issue. And some are blaming the guy whose refrigerator started the fire. He did what they told him to do.
Were the residents aware of the serious fire risks? It's criminal. I'd like to thing I'd have the good sense to move out. No sprinklers, no extinguishers, one set of stairs, doors weren't proper fire doors ... the flammable external cladding
@@CochinchineRaconteur residents complained to the council many times about this, but they were always ignored because they were treated like a fool, most of them were Muslims or Europeans. There were plans to demolish the old tower blocks like grenfell to re-build new homes for rich people, but due to the amount of residents, they went with refurbishing grenfell because the building was an eyesore to the rich people in the area, this is why that cladding was up there. Believe it or not, someone predicted this fire and even posted a blog, saying that they will make sure it will happen so that the council can wake up and see their negligence work. Its bit weird that they actually threatened the authorities to start this fire and it did happen. Its true there were no smoke alarms, fire alarms, sprinklers, fire doors, fire exits, fire extinguishers, fire blankets, smoke ventilators, emergency lights, only one staircase to get in and out. The council agreed to put sprinklers as part of the refurbishment, but due to cutting corners and greediness, they decided to abolish it. It would have costed 5,000 pounds for fire resistant cladding, 200,000 pounds for sprinklers, but they spent 10 million pound to make the building look nice to rich people and decided its more important than health and safety.
These people were burnt slowly to death. Chocked by the poisonous fumes and smoke. Crying and screaming for false hope. Yet the government ignored because these people were living in poverty. Imagine if these people were millionaires, the government would’ve helped much quicker.
to the people who lost they lives and people who survived family and friends I'm so sorry for what u gone thru prayers to u all I personally I can't see how that building burnt that fast very fishy to me
The only fishy thing, is the authorities were cutting corners, and ignoring unsafe buildings, to please their superiors in keeping the council on budget. So the building ended up with illegal cladding, which was highly flammable. Hence the building went up like a candle.
If the fire which is supposed to be confined to one flat, moves to a second flat, that alone is reason enough to ask the residents to evacuate. Because if it can move to one flat, who's to say it wont move to others. Bottom line is many lives could have been saved.
You do realize that once it did that they started telling people to get out. BUT there was no way to tell those on the higher floors because there was no central alarm. And the fire spread too fast.
Powerful report! And amazingly strong people and community who have endured and for those that shared their story of their ordeal of this massacre!!! God bless!!!
How can this happen in this day and age??? And how could they tell these people to stay?? How many people died because of that. This is so heartbreaking and infuriating! 💔
Grenfell reminds me of Titanic. People were let down by the government and company who built Grenfell. Totally preventable. It should not have happened! This will go down in history. Will never be forgotten. Rest in Peace to the poor souls who lost their lives
After the smoke gains the floor and the stairway, after 4 minutes, the floor and the stairway was full of billowing toxic smoke. 2 breaths means death. Firefighters could not say anything, than stay in flats. From the beginning it was a play of losing. Why the fridge caught fire? Why the building was so insecure? There is not the time to blame firefighters or police. There is the time to find out, how this could happened and how to avoid in future.
I'm live the 11th floor & when this happened they tested my flat and we had the same cladding... they having been working on it since and they still are right as i type. All this time later they are trying to fix their pocket pinching and lack of regard of human life, its sickening. Had they of done it properly initially this tragedy wouldnt of happened and they wouldnt be spending millions trying to rectify this fuckery😤😤😤🤬🤬
Well, if your ontop of suite thats already burning on the side, the fire ladder wont do anything because the metal will melt, and you'll be burned. And you NEVER do that blanket out the window, blanket will burn up very fast.
I’ve been watching this video very carefully.. At the middle of this video my stomach started churning!!.. A raw footage of several people in each apartment burning alive and screaming agonisingly.. So horrific to watch someone burn like that and hear their blood-curdling scream.. Nobody deserves this.. 😐.. I hope they find Peace and Tranquility in the hereafter!! 😔
I’m so saddened by this. It is so tragic and devastating. Every life matters. All to save money these companies didn’t do proper checks and as a result so many innocent lives lost. Also the fire brigade did as much as they could and we should be grateful we have the fire service as they are also putting their lives at risk but I do think if they didn’t instruct people to stay in their homes more would have survived. Its really devastating. I really hope the victims of this find peace and justice is served
i have never seen a whole, large building on floor. what a nightmare and god bless the people inside. i'm glad as many made it out as they did. what a nightmare.
The part at 17:05 was upsetting to me. "Why did you leave me?" was very uncalled for. Its a life or death situation but the brother knew he was leaving, why didn't he follow, but instead has the time to guilt him with "why did you leave me?"
I feel like they also need to update their fire safety protocols in the uk just across the board! This stay put concept just doesn't make sense! So many more people could have lived! This is so heartbreaking. I hope the survivors and families can get some justice.
Fire Safety Protocols? Have you seen the half an hour video interview on Channel 4 with the Grenfell spokesperson? He got out from the 16th floor. He said he only passed two people on the way and one of them was a fire fighter on his way up . This means the news from the lucky ones that got out that 'piles of bodies' all over the stairs were blatant lies. He said tenants were allowed to put rubbish on the landings. Allowed? When I lived in a tower block our rubbish went down the chute. If it was too large for the chute we took it down in the lift to the chute room. If it was too large for one person to handle we called the caretaker to help. Grenfell tenants left their rubbish on the landings. If anybody called the caretaker (which is doubtful) he or she never turned up to move it and It blocked the doors to the only staircase. As a result of their own laziness and their willingness to obey the stupid instruction of "'stay where you are" , those above the 16th floor died. No fire brigade ladders go that high, so why stay there? The cladding catching fire only happened because the tenant never had a fire extinguisher in his flat where the fire started. He was stupid enough to open the window and then he ran for it. That was what caused it to spread. Of course the Conservative government are getting the blame but the buiiding was completed and opened for residents with only one staircase and no sprinkler system when Labour were in power. The lock to the dry riser cupboard on the ground floor had been damaged. There were residents cars parked in the areas reserved for emergency vehicles. These minor things add time to any efforts to get it under control and are nothing to do with any government, no matter which one is in Downing Street. If we go to the cladding, only one person is responsilbe for that and that is the person who signed it off as safe to install. Whoever that person was, he/she was not a Cabinet Minister and not the local MP either. Never mind, we'll just blame Boris Johnson for everything. And finally, all the prayers didn't seem to do much good, did they? Yet people will still beleive in god.
I have been living in 24 story high flats in london ever since I was 3 and now I'm 13 and I am honestly scared for my life not only could it set on fire but there are so much druggies and gangs with knives in all the blocks so it's a loose loose situation I could die from a fire or from knife violence which thank goodness didnt happen to my older brother now he's gone so responsibility falls on my shoulders
Because if the building is done correctly with right materials the fire should have stayed contained in the flat that originated. It is difficult to spread. Obviously the building was crap. Hope someone is in the jail for making profit on the back of people's safety and life.
I was this when it first happen in 2017 I still watch it every year on the anniversary of it cause it still can't imagine something Like that happening I feel so sad and sorry for the residents who survived and and those people who die cause years later they still have no justice and it is not right it made me mad still do for the people in London to keep saying it was only 89 people who lost their lives it was more the just will never no cause they were burn to ash so they don't know
Torn my ❤️ into pieces whenever I go deep n try to feel the helpnessness of the tower tenants that horrible night..... n still it’s so horrifying to see this tomb in the air of London
80 people did not perish the number of fatalities is much higher, but the official number is not known nor would authorities release it as it would create more hysteria and chaos than there already is... 4 years on almost and still no justice for the voice of those who lost a loved one that fateful night. Its just disgusting that to save a few thousand pounds a cheaper material that failed fire safety was given the go ahead to be placed on a building that already had many existing problems raised by the community and residents of that tower to their council but all fell on deaf ears. What amazes me is how the fire brigade advice all those residents to stay in their flats till help arrived, in any fire training the first thing you are told to do is evacuate the building from the nearest exit taking as many people as you can with you. Whether its a real drill or even false alarm, you are never told to stay in the building! I wonder who that individual was and how s/he is sleeping at night since?
Blue Sky no demolition will take place until 2018 once all the investigations have concluded. Even then a demolition of such a big building which is already structurally unsafe is a bit of a hard task so it may not be possible to demolish without causing more damage to surrounding. The place will then probably be turned into a memorial. The building is going to be covered with a plastic covering till its fate is decided
When you consider there was in effect Petrol in the cladding they had no chance..If they would have used fire proof cladding there would have been no deaths here...I was shocked to learn that a big portion of Australia’s tall buildings are covered in this stuff..Etheleen I think they call it but my spelling is off..
Grenfell reminds me of the Station Nightclub fire and the 100 that died there because of similar cladding inside the building and no sprinklers, and only one way out could be used.😢
I don’t fully understand. Did the Syrian guy live with his brother and they somehow couldn’t find each other so one left the building and the other was left in the building?
Chaya Kent Yes. A fireman took one brother out but left the other brother (and a couple of others) behind. With that level and density of smoke (and the general desperation and panic of all involved) it wasn’t immediately obvious that anyone had been left behind, and by the time the brother who escaped realised that his brother wasn’t behind him, it was too late. He begged firefighters to go back up to get his brother but they weren’t able to reach him before the fire did, and he jumped. Heartbreaking.
The firefighters herded all the remaining residents on the 14th floor into Olu’s (green shirt) flat. When fresh firefighters showed up, there was confusion over who was in the flat-there were 8 people in total, but one firefighter was told 6, no one was told there were two young children or an elderly man in bad shape in the flat. Olu, as he said, his partner and their daughter fled, and the Syrian man, Omar, fled, but his brother was disoriented by the smoke and couldn’t see to escape. No firefighter went into the flat to search it, so Zainab Deen and her two year old, and the older man, Denis Murphy, were left behind because they were too weak to run. Mohammed returned to the flat, and most likely watched the others die. He was found outside the building, with injuries consistent from a fall, so he most likely jumped.
