Joejoejoeil ! True but her first game was kinda awful I mean she was the only one who even considered flipping on Rob and maybe if Matt wasn’t such an idiot she could’ve made a big play but she just kinda existed that season
Zeke fucked her game for no reason. Had he stayed with Andrea with Cirie, Aubry, Michaela and probably Sarah, this season would've gone a lot lot better. And probably voting out the advantagegeddon people. Also, Cirie's game went downhill after she voted out Andrea. Gave Sarah much power.
I just realized that Andrea wins a lot of the leg related challenges. In Redemption Island, she won a challenge that was just hanging by her legs upside down. Then, she won the balancing challenge in Caramoan. She won 2 challenges where u had to use a lot of leg strength in Game Changers.
well to be fair the redemption island one was only because natalie and ashley let her win after all the zapatera members were out so there was no point in continuing
Andrea is a very good player and well deserving of the title of a Game Changer, however she has always been used as a shield, and she doesn't even know about it. Everyone would align with her cause they know shes loyal and strategic and physical so thats why she's so expendable, always the minority in the majority.
very well put, I totally agree :) I think she just can't play invisible her, to me especially her going strong for the first immunity was a clear mistake (people like Jeremy in Cambodia willingly lost in the first immunity challenges). i think she was the best TV in Caramoan where she loved causing mischief, had that super funny chat with Eddie and her blindside was amazing too.
She should have worked with Brenda in Caramoan. And with Sandra in this season. And with the opposite tribe in Redemption Island. She keeps aligning with treacherous power players (Rob, Cochran and Cirie) rather than ones that are sneaky but loyal to the ones they're with
Alcor Fundal She’s great but I dunno if she’s reached legend status yet cause obviously we have Parv, cirie, Amanda, Jerri, Sandra as five solid locks and I’d put Kass, Stephanie, abi-Maria, Kelley wentworth and Aubrey in the other slots so the other person I could see her replacing is abi Maria but even then abi is notoriously hilarious each season, but maybe she’s better suited for a heroes vs villains 2 but even then she’d have to fight ciera for that lost spot
IkeMainSSB How is that a joke, Andrea is great but I dunno if people think Andrea when they hear legend, I guess I’d replace her with abi Maria but that’s about it cause abi is basically legendary at this point
@@sideeswipe More so the fact that litteraly ever person on your Survivor Legends cast is a woman. Given that there are plenty of male legends (surly plenty more legendary than Abi) so I have to assume it's intentional
Andrea's a queen! Hopefully she comes back to play again! I always love watching her play, unfortunately I think what really messed her up was Zeke wanting her out. Since he pointed her out she became a huge threat.
to be honest, I think she caused it more herself by winning the first immunities :) I don't think that was a good idea.... especially in these new seasons you need to pretend like you're invisible for a while. also, in the end, it was Cirie who was the key player turning on her
She was always a threat. So many people credited her for big moves that people in her alliance were making, and they wanted her out sooner rather than later because she was great at challenges and a huge jury threat
well, Sarah made a good decision tho :) Cirie's hard to argue, Andrea definitely didn't wanna go to the end with her, maybe Final 4. and Cirie got no votes in the Final 6 and only got voted off thanks to that horrible immunity train. but yeah, I absolutely rooted for these girls + Michaela too.
Favorite thing about her is that she’s always cool when she gets voted out. She acknowledges the good play, wishes the rest of the players best of luck and even banters around
I don't think there was NO reason for getting her out, but I absolutely hated how fast and unsatisfying it was edited. Andrea had a really good, rich edit post-merge and then she was gone like *that* :-( although I totally respect Sarah's deserved win, from this moment the season went fast downhill for me, also thanks to the problematic edit...
@@TheMurrmursonbottle It's understandable why Cirie voted Andrea out tho. Had she stuck with Andrea and Aubry, it would've went to rocks. Plus Andrea was a huge threat, and voting her out gained trust with Sarah more. So it worked for her. Zeke was stupid, he made a move for move for moves sake.
It's funny that she made that far on the 3 seasons she played. She obviously a good strategic player and a physical threat. A complete package for a winner. If I were playing against her, I will target or vote her out earlier in the game.
I will argue that she wasn’t robbed, getting blindsided doesn’t mean you were robbed. Her problem is that she’s always at the top of her alliance and has a target on her back the whole time.
I really love Andrea. She played an amazing game in Game Changers and it was absolutely stupid to vote her out instead of Brad at the final 8. It really would have been nice to see her make it past 8th place imo.
I really don't know why she was asked to return, or even asked to join the first time. She's so boring. Takes out Zeke for no reason making her so vulnerable that she gets eliminated. She's so fake in that she's pretending she didn't want to eliminate Zeke for a while and when Zeke manages to survive, she plays victim. If Zeke wanted Sierra out like Cirie said, why was Ozzy voted out? She makes Zeke to be this huge villain, but every person has their own final three, so why fault other people for playing their game? If you don't want to be jaded, then make sure your final three is their final three. Girl was saying Zeke wanted to be the center of attention but his actions do not reflect that. She's projecting her insecurities and her faults onto other people to pretend it's not her who wants to be in the center of attention herself because Andrea has nothing in her portfolio for final tribal council. She wants to make a play, but it's Sarah's move and not her own. She played a stupid game winning immunity after immunity. Michaela was smart enough to not put a target on her back which was why she was able to live another tribal council longer than Andrea. Andrea took most of the heat off of Sarah as being physically the strongest female out there. Her speech about "not rubbing salt in the wound," and "be their best friend the entire day, that just seems a little vicious" was the most stupid thing to have ever come out of her mouth. She doesn't deserve to ever come back just for this because she doesn't understand the game. Whenever you blindside someone, you need to mend those relationships which is why a lot of players actually do try to console the person they blindsided inadvertently as a favor of good will. Andrea means to say "if you blindside me, I'm going to be very hurt by that and I'm not going to work with you any longer." Since Andrea was that easy to read, everyone knows that they have no shot of working with her any more because she's being very abrasive and cold. If you aren't open to work with people who have blindsided you, you end up standing alone. You can't play the game of "blindside me once, the bridge is burnt and now we're sworn enemies" because that's just going to leave you with fewer allies and will get you eliminated. Andrea didn't mend her relationship with Michaela, saying Michaela will get over it by not being picked to go on the loved ones reward. And that's why Andrea says it's vicious how people act like best friends after blindsides because it leaves the problem in other people's hands and not herself. She's defending her own poor behaviors. The biggest mistake Andrea made was eliminating Zeke and let me explain to you why. When Ozzy left, the four remaining males were Zeke, Brad, Troyzan, and Tai. For most of the girls, they would rather sit at final tribal council next to any of the males that were not Zeke. However, the girls have variable chances to win if another girl was also at final tribal council. Zeke was a threat with a larger target on his back compared to Andrea. Andrea could have used Zeke as a meat shield to eliminate some of the girls. Sarah was on board to vote out Zeke, because Sarah knew she could pick off the girls one by one. No one was going to win with Zeke at final tribal council, a statement I will cosign off of Michaela. The moment Zeke was eliminated, all of the girls were being eliminated with the ones who had bigger targets being eliminated first. It doesn't matter if Brad Culpepper won immunity because he stood no chance at final tribal council as evident to what really did happen. Everyone realized Sarah was in the drivers seat after the vote on Michaela which prompted Cirie, Aubry, and Tai to vote against her. Sarah played such an excellent game to not make such a bitter jury. Andrea mentions that Sarah does things that raises some question marks. Like no honey. That's how a winner plays the game. If you don't understand the why behind what Sarah is doing, you just don't understand the game. Aubry having to explain what Sarah's moves were to Andrea shows the difference in how Aubry understand the game compared to Andrea. Andrea is only a physical threat because Michaela, Cirie, Aubry, and Sarah are not about to put the targets on their backs. Andrea is an extremely poor strategist. Andrea has a warped understanding of human behavior. Stan her all you want, but she's terrible at Survivor, getting a worse placement every time she played.
If she comes back to play again, she needs to align herself with some bigger target players that she can use as shields, along with some lowkey followers. Then she can make strategic moves by influencing instead of straightforwardly leading them.
Not true at all. Andrea is without question a great physical and social player. Had Zeke and some her allies not screwed her over and if she survived final 8 over Brad who I hated so badly, this season would have been higher in my rankings.
@@CaidenTube burning bridges and turning on your ally is never a good thing. Zeke clearly started this and both Andrea and Cirie did not like that kind of gameplay. You should never burn too many bridges in this game ever!! Had Zeke not done this, her game and the season would have been better. Overall, I understand your opinion but not everyone can agree with you.
@@sethgladstone3581 i respect your opinion the first comment you replied too was a joke because i disliked andrea you can like her but in my opinion sometimes burning allies has caused players too win the game
survivorfan111100 Tai found 4 idols And made it 3rd and 4th place he's won his fair share of Immunities Adam Won 10-0-0 Andrea didn't even make final 3 she blew up her own game 3 times Matt Dawn Zeke
I don't think she's overated at all , she had so many allies during 3 seasons , she's a great social player but she did not read her allies well. Great physical threat and very smart on making moves
survivorfan111100 LOL I usually agree with your opinions on here, but NOT this one. Cirie DEFINITELY could've won every season but just had twists and shit to ruin her game. Fire tiebreaker, Final 3 to Final 2 switch, Idoled out, no votes. Maybe Russell and Spencer won't ever win, but Cirie definitely could've. Sorry that Cirie voted out Andrea, even though in many interviews, it was stated by both Andrea and Cirie, that Andrea was going after Cirie but they didn't show it on the episode. So it was just as much Andrea's fault that she was voted out.
survivorfan111100 All three of those people made it further in two games then she has in 3 so there the better player not just by that but in many other ways
actually in Caramoan she was really fun - but I agree with you that she's never gonna win I think. a bit too trusting and competitive to let some individual immunities go.
