Survivor: Winners at War Review 

I think if he made the merge, he wouldn’t have allowed Tony to run the game. A practical, strategic player like Yul would’ve seen what had to be done

Same with Parv. Last two old schoolers slashed before the merge and given the opportunity to get a footing they definitely would’ve.

Sandra and yul*

Agreed so much potential for Yul to have stayed longer

Hoshiko Mizudori it’s been confirmed that Sandra’s elimination actually happened before Parvati’s- the episode was just edited to make it look like the Dakal tribal came after Sele’s since it had more theatrics with the double idol play (plus if you look at the bequeathal scenes after their eliminations, Sandra has the option to give her tokens to Parv but Parv does not have the option to give her tokens to Sandra).

What does UTR mean?

@@connorferguson3080 under the radar

No, ew... I can't stand Tony. He deserved the win, sure, but I just can't stand him. Definitely one of the least entertaining players in my opinion.

Yeah, I agree. Weirdly enough I think that his epic failure on Game Changers helped him in this season as it put a dent on his track record and kept him a smaller threat than he actually was.

@@TheRealSweedie but you have an opinion about him, which is why he's such a great character. Think about Wendell or Nick, for example. I don't like them or dislike them, they're just there

Okay lol

i don’t get it

@@DrewHaver Tyson was targeted for this reason

@@DrewHaver Did you not watch the season or even the video? 😭😩

*Im happy the whispering stopped honestly*

Didn't we have a solid alliance of Tony, Ben, Sarah, Denise, and Jeremy at this point though so there was no need to whisper as much?

The episodes are short enough as it is, I think they should cut out the whispering and add in solid stuff explaining what’s actually happening

Hopefully it gets banned in future seasons.

Ayyy another fur that loves Survivor!

they add yet another layer of duplicity

Marlon Fouse hahahaha😂😂😂

Wish the fire tokens were utilized more, like in auctions or have a price list to buy advantages.

It wasn't fair that he wasn't able to earn any fire tokens before the first challenge to get back in. He got punished for being the last voted out by getting no advantage in the challenge, which makes no sense considering he had played the best of all of them up to that point.

​@@zachcushing-murray2663 doesn't really matter. Look at nat, she had literally every advantage the first challenge too and did not get back in... I mean she did the second one, but she had to work her butt off, and she deserved it because nobody else from yul to boston rob, to amber who literally did nothing, they did not deserve to get back in. And the longer people are in the game, the more rice and stuff they have eaten theoretically so the fire tokens on EOE helped for the challenge, but you also have to earn them and Yul DID have a chance to earn some just like nat, but did not get as many. Yul should have became friends with Nat on EOE like Tyson lol. Bad move on his part siding with the old timers because he is one I really felt had a chance at winning the game.

@@rileyesmay I'm referring specifically to the first challenge that Tyson won. Yul had been voted off the night before, so he had no chance to get tokens on eoe before the challenge. During the challenge, he was forced to go faster than Tyson and Rob in order to catch up, and was still neck and neck. Give him the extra 45sec he spent digging and he has a comfortable lead and can take it slowly rather than rushing to catch up.

@@rileyesmay think Yul and Nat had a bit of tension between them on EOE... ):

@@rachsounds i dont really know what happen theres no footage about it, but a lot of player talk about this, and its just simple hit at the moment that not mean anything at all, not even enough to call feud or even bully.

Yo, he was my pick to win and I have proof

Last time I checked she was still on The Amazing Race with her TWINNIE

Yeah doing that on purpose would just make it Survivor 40 Old School vs New School. And not winners at war. You feel me

Agreed, amazing season, best cast, though not as top notch as those seasons. Actually 5th for me, behind Tocantins as well.

It's not the best cast but it's a great cast tho

You can't joke about something that doesn't exist

He still should have won Samoa

DarkLord 607 He thought he got the last laugh, by mocking the jury, and making them look like dumbasses on national television. What he didn’t know is that They would be voting for the winner

@@iam_vannguyen on Samoa he wasn't that bad I agree that Parvati should have won HvV but Samoa. They were a bunch of bitter bitches. He did not mock them in Samoa and he should have won. Change my mind.

HvV was the best season!!!!!!!!! The feuds made it hilarious

Yeah I don't see any other season ever beating HvV at this point, in terms of entertainment value or level of gameplay. It was kind of the perfect season - WaW maybe could have been there if there was no EoE and at least half the fan-favorites made the merge, but with that opportunity missed I doubt there'll be another like it before Jeff retires

Nah

Also, I will preface this by saying that I am a huge Aubry fan which will tell you what you need to know, but I think throughout this season, people viewed Michelle as a goat because she was a goat the season she won and wasn't gonna be any different this time around. And especially on a season of winners, where the jury will more than likely prioritize gameplay over a personal vendetta (somewhat ironic with the votes that Nat received but obv Tony was still overwhelmingly the leader and that's why Natalies friends from EOE voted for her, A. cause they got to physically see her game, like Parv, or B. cause they probably knew Tony would be getting all the votes so they voted for their friend.). Big tangent aside, she was never going to play a strategic game and was never a threat to win, so I think it wasn't shocking at all that she lasted as long as she did, especially after the "hyenas" were either eliminated or hypnotized by Cops R Us, and I'm honestly kinda surprised she was ever in the position of being voted out. I could have told you she would make the final from the beginning, cause you would have been so naive to think you couldn't beat her in the end during this season. Which also annoyed me, cause she is probably sitting at home thinking she justified her win by making this final 3, where I think she really didn't do all that much to deserve it. RIP AUBRY

@Peridiam thoughts?

But the move was so poetic because of the fact that Sandra was voted out via her own idol. It was a complete blindside and betrayal which is bloody good.

mandyhaswifi yeah but “poetic” doesn’t win you survivor, especially when you burn two idols in the pre-merge

I don't mind the move. I more upset that she didn't do anything post merge

How can she survive that? She was swapped onto a 5 person tribe where 4 of the people were in a pre-game alliance? The only way she could have survived was if she got literally any of the 3 other advantages offered prior.

Smash Mansion I’ve heard from exit press that some jurors wanted to vote for her, but they were afraid the votes for nat, tony, and michele would be relatively equal, but nat would win. they didn’t want the edge returnee who went out first to win. I don’t know if it rlly had much to do with resoect

That means she didn't play a good enough game to get votes

stfu. ben was perfect for that spot, and i don't wish for anyone else

@@lafingscarecrow he the worst. ben is a walking joke.

@@redred4877 cyberbully

@@redred4877 what? speak english please

I agreed. He was just a blind follower of Tony and Sarah. Also Ben couldn't find any idol this time, I wonder what does that proof 😂😂🤔🤔

Idk Rob will be back IMO if they have a Legends season in the next couple years. Survivor 42 or 45 is almost certain to be Legends.

50 will probably do like a returner season

and she wants Dan's idol and rice

@@HealthymemesExe and Elizabeth's jury vote and Davies reward

You’re right, it was powerful

Not an Adam fan here, but u enjoyed that moment

Adam has said he wasn’t embarrassed at all, I’m not sure why you think he was. He has in interviews he thought their could be an idol on it and production kept telling him to check it out

@@Ryan-dz7mg His body language appeared to show he was embarrassed in that moment. I haven't seen the interviews, so I was judging this based on his body language/tone of voice/facial expressions. And honestly I trust people's body language in the moment more than what they say afterwards. People lie.

They definitely will hide sumn in tribal because of him

I’m surprised that the Us version has yet to do that. Closet has been Second Chances with Kelley’s second idol clue.

Mark Lisowski I read an interview that said there would never be an idol hidden at Tribal Council because it would most definitely end with the TB set being torn up by players in search of it.

@@trevordavis-dressner9913 I'm counting on it in one of the next 3 seasons.

@@elizabethdodson2074 maybe. But if it was right out in the open but not able to be grabbed and only pointed out it would work.

me @ my geometry teacher... I got her introduced to big brother!

the bits with tyson, jeremy, and wendell were the best

I laughed so hard when Danni and Parv acted like Tyson

Ashton Green his arched back😂

Absolutely, that's because the players that were in those videos have the most personality. Not all, but most. That's what used to make the show fun - you want to see the personality. The snakiness of a Tyson or the flintiness of a Parvati.

God damn you I was going to comment that.

No hate tho

Never know him before but nice to see him and Parvati. Lovely couple

Mr. Parvati Shallow**

You’re an idiot...

It’ll be a long time before they bring it back. If they ever bring it back. It was just here this season to give the early boot winners more screen time.

Redemption Island was really good tho on Blood vs Water, it brought so much more drama and entertainment to the season.

Elijah Culper Jeff KNOWS that nobody likes it and has stated it himself. Unfortunately though, instead of saying something like “we won’t bring it back again” he said like “it won’t be back for awhile” which annoys me, because jeff can be reallllllly dense when it comes to knowing what’s actually good for the show or not. if the fanbase hates it, get rid of it, period

I think that edge isn’t good but worked for this season as cbs wanted to get everyone screen time

I think the Edge was a nice addition for this season since most of my favorite players were voted out early, so it was nice to still get to see them. The back-and-forth of advantages and fire tokens was interesting to watch, especially with the extortion advantage. However, it shouldn't come back for the reasons already stated by other people.

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TheMeranianReviewer is another of my favorites

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Facts

I really wish she had better footing in the game!!!! I think she’s such an interesting winner. But the producers also gave her a bad edit.

honestly still makes me so sad she was out so soon

The worst part about her placing so low might be that now it feels like a guarantee that no one else from Guatemala is ever coming back.

I think you mean Franchesqua

I wish a season of first boots was made. Just to see Francesca got for the third time

Really goes to show how much of survivor is luck based

EJ Elbertson I wouldn’t say it’s luck... it’s just a display of the butterfly effect. And Tony has remained low enough of a threat at that point that Denise didn’t feel the need to get him out at that time-she did clearly feel like Sandra needed to go though

@@joshlaughlin5437 Survivor has alot of elements of luck, there's no way you can deny that.

​@@ejelbertson9974 Tribe swaps are the only thing I can think of and maybe idol/advantage finding. Most people that find them are actually looking for them though. To suggest it has a lot of luck is unreasonable in my opinion. Challenges, Strategy, and relationships which are the main portions of the game and how you get far are not luck-based.

@@Malamber Those stategies and relationships will mean nothing if your tribe swapped with the wrong people. The tribe you end up with can make or break your game, so you have to be lucky if you want to end up on top

She wasn't targeted cus of that Tyson threw her under the bus.

Yeah the season went by fast. :'(

@@mr.pockets8523 She was targeted for being married to Rob, but Tyson also threw her under the bus, so that gave her an even bigger target

nope, but after the merge the losing edge players should be sent home, and then the rest of it is should be played amongst the merge vote outs. like if it had been played with players from wendell to nick, then we'd get a whole different outcome

Lafing Scarecrow i 100% agree but i get why the stayed for this season but definitely did not like it

@@4musketeers124 yeah i guess so. but i still don't like it. if that was how the edge was played in the earlier season, we'd probably have rick devens, or even mr. joe mazing as the winner instead of chris

You come at the King, you best not miss.

@@bighoss7437 he wasnt the king then.. But Kim was the only person who seemed smart enough to target Tony. no one else did until Natalie came along.

Was kind of a doubter honestly before Winners at War but I know now that was a mistake. Really impressive performance from her both times now, playing from the bottom and still doing that well is commendable

Jenna Morasca never had her torch snuffed

She played twice relax

for a while that was Amanda right?

@anigerianninja4577 michele won so she did deserve it lol

I kind of hate how Denise gets praised for voting out Sandra. "Slaying the queen". I genuinely dislike Sandra as a winner but voting her out makes no sense... like, instead of having a connection/potential ally in Sandra by working with her, Denise takes out a big player and potential ally for her in the game just because... she wants people to remember her this season? Dumb move, shouldn't be praised for it. Makes complete sense to vote Tony out there but I'm not complaining, we get the best winner now.

I agree with all of these, Michele was so cute when she was happy dancing and I was a pretty big Tony fan from the start so that made this season so intense for me. And I love how he redeemed himself to Sarah in their heartwarming duo. He won as a villain and as a hero so nobody can deny that Tony is the king of survivor.

@@TrueGuardify True but Sandra made that comment about Denise not being a threat. That was very disrespectful. Sandra touting her own horn had been a problem and Denise taking her out because of it was very appropriate. Sandra has never dominated a game of survivor. She doesn't do anything but get sneak her way to the end and steal votes. She's Tony definition of a hyena