Suspiria (2018) Spoiler Talk & Ending Explained! 

GameSpot Universe I cannot believe y'all didn't discuss Olga and her "departure" from the dance academy

The ending

The score

the instrumental score is rather original. That's about it.

The fact that Guadagnino didn't try to make a carbon copy of the original but told his own story with the same basic plot and characters.

Yes, indeed, they probably just have gotten too used to her in another movie / role and felt akward about this new one, but me, not even knowing the actress before (i don't give a damn about 50 shades), the character was perfect to me!

Agree completely! Dakota was so good in this movie. That criticism is out of place and poorly elaborated

Agree completely. She was exactly what the role called for. A little touched, a little bit superior, and knowing more than she should have.

She was perfect. Especially during Volk.

Totally agree with you. I haven't seen 50 shade of gray so for me, her role was pure and made perfect sense in the world of Guadagnino's Suspiria.

Steven Stark I feel Mother! Was a little exploitative in comparison but that’s JUST the dissenting opinion of someone who didn’t like it. 😅

I’m inbetween. I don’t get why it’s being praised a lot while Hereditary is being shitted on smh

I much prefer this to Mother! but they are both divisive movies as you say.

I am in between.

I thought it was okay so there is an inbetween :P

Abso-fucking-lutely! Amazingly powerful scene and character!

*performances

Good point. I meant in overall.

pffft, were you watching straight-to-DVDs for the most part?

James Alcobilla have you ever thought of what Hotel could have been is she was in it?

@@hadbetterdays I'm thinking more of Coven, she will be good there :)

Witches are really getting a lot of quality films and t.v I.e coven, suspiria and the vvitch - proper well acted great scripted film - dark and sexy and magical instead of just old hags lol

i hope when the new american horror story comes out i hope it takes a different turn then what the last did.

Honestly, she's to good for AHS.

she's playing someone who grew up in, and just left, a mennonite community. what are you talking about?

I thought the same

She was good in her role. She had to do the hidden strength and drive thing and conveyed that well, I thought. I bought her as a dancer.

I thought both movies sucked

"we" "need" used rather generously there. You want more movies like Suspiria for what? So that the fact that women are other women's worst enemy is further exposed? This film is so not self-aware with badly thought out dialogue such as when they drag the "male" psychologist while telling him HE is terrible for not believing women and diagnosing them with mental illness, as if that is somehow worse than, err I don't know, those same women MAKING other women crazy in the first place? A movie made for and by feminists, that's for sure. Dumb, weak ass arguments.

@@mightytaiger3000 i mean the original Suspiria was female led too, but that's not what made it enjoyable. Its like they dont realize "wahmen" aren't the positive aspects; its good writing, scene composition, pacing, etc. Annihilation is a movie about smart people who make the worst possible decisions at every turn, with no good justification. Its a lovecraft story written by someone far less talented lacking even the base level understanding of what made lovecraft tales good. I hate this shit

What does there being barely any men in them have to do with anything?

Khadijah Frye annihilation was so good!!!

noblechicken literally perfect description! I never thought of that after I saw it in theaters. I also love the concept of Susie/Suspiriorum being somewhat of a white witch. This movie is a horror masterpiece, just like the original.

She’s in my favorite horror film.

I got this! See, for each witch of the covenant, there is a student linked to her. Just like Madame Blanc bonds with Susie, all students bond individually with a witch, in a very mother-daughter kind of fashion. That particular witch's student was... Olga! (the student who gives up, tries to leave and is tortured) She simply can't bare that failure and kills herself! (just like a mother losing her daughter, losing a part of herself, she has become a sad and weak witch, an empty witch!)

That is REALLY interesting...never considered it at all. Now i gotta watch the whole movie again (not complaining). Thanks for your reply.

My theory is that she recognized that Susie was mother supirium from the beginning, and she knew what would happen to her since she voted for Mother markos.

I thought that Susie took her knowledge of German dialect. It seemed right after Blanc said she needed to learn German ‘Edna mode’ stabbed herself in the NECK (voice, speech) and gave it to Susie like how she gained the ‘Jumps’ from the really tall girl

@A Guy And His Channel The girl with glasses knew German and Susie didn't. They showed Blanc transfer one dancers skills to Susie (to make her jump higher). Blanc told Susie that she needs to be able to speak German for the dance and the girl with the glasses stabs herself in the neck (which is the source of your voice) and gave Susie the ability to speak German fluently as if she's lived in Berlin her whole life... at least how I observed it.

juliano roper she needed to learn French though

darkphoenix474 ahhh, than that’s what I meant, thanks. I was just saying the same language that all the witches spoke. Thanks for the correction

Agree.

I feel you!

Same here. Had the music in my brain since I saw it a few days ago. Also agree that I think the old man would have been better played by an old man. No matter how good the make-up is you are always aware you are watching Tilda Swinton acting the part of an old man. She was really good at it but it didn't feel necessary to me. It momentarily took me out of things at times. Other than that I can't really find any quibbles. It's at least a 9 out of 10 and on par with the original for me. Considering how badly remakes can go they did a great job with the movie.

Watched Midsommar, Lighthouse, Heredetirary and this last couple days. This movie was my Favourite, truly Mezmerizing.

A Guy And His Channel um... no

I just saw it a second time and I think that witch with the glasses killed herself because she became mentally fucked after the first failed ritual with the Patricia and now the women at the end with blood on her face (tanner) is now the same from susies bloodbath. This movie is more amazing the second time.

Suzy(Dakota) stole lipstick. I’m not sure why. Maybe because she’s mother suspirium and felt like doing it lol.

Dean I wanna say that Miss Griffith kills herself because she kinda knew that something bad was going to happen. She voted for Markos who was the false mother, and maybe she knew that mother suspirium was coming and she was fucked anyways.

I’ve seen it twice, I love it but the one question I have is why was that Romanian choir guy there at the ritual? Every other part of the ritual was set up and established earlier accept for this random guy in a Mozart wig singing. I mean it still resulted in an awesome soundscape.

@@tatehildyard5332 I thought she was a transgender witch

www.inverse.com/article/50208-suspiria-after-credits-scene-explained-by-luca-guadagnino-screenwriter-david-kajganich?refresh=20 According to the director, (and that makes total sense) she is like "browsing the world", foreseing the future, she's now out in the world upon us and sees beyond the camera! I love that explanation and immediately thought about one of the witches that we see in the end, her face still covered in blood, with a look in her eyes that just says: "dread"! I like that sense of "terrifying prospects" that the whole gives! What could happen? Are the 3 mothers coming to take on the planet? Does that mean an apocalypse? ... I really hope (so bad) that this is the beginning of a saga!

And about the compassion, i think that the mother just sets things straight, frees and forgives those who were persecuted for wrong reasons, while unleashing death itself on all of the witches who were part of the Markos fraud! .. Re-establishing balance in other words, that's why she has come!

Taking into account that Crash and Slumdog Millionaire have won Best Picture, I'd say, Sure.

Lucas Ledain LOL I laughed out loud in the theater at that part

Vene VLDZ she was actually from Ohio but she had traveled to New York to see Madam Blanc a few times lol just a small detail tho

It's pretty much mother suspiriorum setting everything straight with the same passion, forgiving those who need forgiveness while ... summoning death itself on all the witches who were part of the Markos fraud! Balance indeed.

fuck I missed it! what was it??

Susie, now Mother Suspiriorum, erases our memory and wants us to forget what we just witnessed. If you listen, a strange melody plays during that scene that's pretty much identical to the one that plays when she erases Dr. Klemperer's memory and guilt, and her hand is raised to the audience, again like she did with Josef. It's those little details that make this film an instant classic!

@@juandavila9051 how does a corny scene at the end make a film "an instant classic"?? where is this "instant classic" rule book you're going by?

mightytaiger it's - personal opinion buddy, a lot of people really enjoyed this film like me. I understand it's not for everyone though, but I think it's fair to say that people who enjoy horror movies are gonna be talking about this one for a very long time!

@@mightytaiger3000 Thankfully, some people don't need "rule books" to know what is good or bad!

You can't tell. The film doesn't make any sense to me. Have seen it yesterday.

@@KaraOke2808 It does! (spoilers alert, ofc, DO NOT read this if you have not seen the movie yet!) Fairly simple, in fact: There's a covenant of witches, disguised as a dance academy, the leader (Helena Markos, the most powerful witch of the covenant) is dying and looking for a new body and has been fooling the witches into believing that she is one of the 3 mothers, the 3 mothers being pretty much the 3 original witches, predating good and evil on earth. (except the sharp Madame Blanc who is not fooled and would like to honestly lead the covenant and probably knows that Markos is a fraud) Then comes Susie, entering the covenant as a new student right before the witches perform a spell (dance) for the re-incarnation of Markos, Susie reveals herself at the end of the movie to actually BE the incarnation of one of the 3 mothers and she just violently puts an end to all that charade that's going on (litterally summons DEATH itself for all the witches who were part of the imposture of Markos!) and then leaves to roam the planet... (and at this point, i just pray for sequelS!) Edit: Simple once you get it but i too had to think, read a bit on the lore and then go for a second delightful watch before i fully grasped it, i'm not usually into movies with that kind of esoteric approach to it, i usually like everything to be self-explanatory but i'm going that extra mile for this one with pleasure!

@@anvb5a1 so is the old woman at the end (the gross, nearly dead one) not a witch at all afterall? Or is she a witch but just not as powerful as she pretends? Or is she actually the "mother spirit" and she goes into Susie's body? Or is that Tilda Swinton? And what witch is she? And also why did everyone have to die at the end with the heads? And why Susie?

@@anvb5a1 also who is Markos? The spirit of the big time witch?

@@Michelle-ew6ws She (Markos) is just a which and pretended to be one of the 3 mothers so that the others would allow her to reincarnate but Susie actually IS one of the 3 mothers reincarnated and comes to kick her butt and set things right in the witch coven! And Tilda's character, Madame Blanc, is also just a witch, the one that should be the leader of the coven in fact but it all went south and corruption took place, this is why Susie calls death upon all the witches who voted for the old hag Markos! (probably because she is particularly infuriated that Markos killed the righteous Madame Blanc) Susie pretended to be fooled and was supposed to become the vessel for Markos to be reincarnated in, she is actually here for her demise!

I think it was after the dance performance. When Sarah collapses and is taken out of the room, Susie is on the floor and seems to "come into" power at that point.

@MaybDefinitely But she only realizes after waking up from a dream and screaming "I know who I am" or something like that.

I think she always knew somehow. She walked into that school like she owned the place, and she did own it

@@lucas.daniel It was not after the dance performance because Susie is the one who interrupted the dance performance with her powers by dispelling the trance state Sarah was in. She did so because if the dance (the ritual) had been completed, she would not have been able to retain control.

@@harrycrime8836 Wow ive seen the film 5 times now and didnt realise Suzy was the one stopping it. Makes perfect sense! Thanksbro

@A Guy And His Channel haha IRS not being numb or dumb its just wanting this to be made clearer - I still get confused by this film lol xxxx

In other words, female led films should be seen as just as good as any other films

Teapot S their channel, not yours

Dan Uscg she’s erasing our (the audience’s) memory, since this movie was shot with the idea that we are all flies on the wall basically, observers of everything that’s happening. But Susie erases it from our minds

@@austinm8334 Now I get it, thanks!

Dan Uscg no problem!

Both! :D