SVS Prime Bookshelf Truthful & Technical Review

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@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

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@formerhobbit5599 Год назад

Erin, Love the EQing of your voice to represent a forward mid-range. Very original content and very useful to your viewers.

@jmd11185 11 месяцев назад

Really?

@avnut5517 Год назад

Love your reviews backed up by testing. Thank you!

@NosEL34 Год назад

Man I freaking love these vids. Overall not a bad speaker and now I know why a lot of people like this one...that slightly boosted midrange and up while staying together at high volumes. Decent looking too. Not for me but I do like the SVS sub I own, their PEQ really works well and has made an audible difference in my room. A few changes to this older model speaker and I think SVS could have a true winner on their hands if they manage to stay at this price point. Great vid, truly enjoyed it.

@Simon_Hawkshaw Год назад

Thank you for this review. I decided to get the Ultras and have found them my 'go to speaker'. The Ultras are the best I have ever heard or owned. I was glad to hear your precise and in-depth review of the Primes. Thank you as always for your time and effort.

@ronnzi Год назад

Thanks for this review! Providing us with your EQ settings is SUPER helpful. For people that already own these speakers, having this data following the klippel data is great!

@chashint1 Год назад

Thanks in particular for talking a little bit about your robotic measuring machine. As always, your description about the speaker’s sound is well thought out and presented without hyperbole and then circling the measured data and predicted room response back to the listening description is just very cool.

@brucermarino Год назад

Great work, again Erin! Keep these technical reviews coming ...

@dananskidolf Год назад

I hope SVS (and others) send you more gear to test, free of bias. Would very much like to see what the Ultra range has over the Prime range. If it resolves that directivity problem here and with the centre speaker, it could be well worth the extra money.

@deankim6687 Год назад

So cool how you actually demonstrated what you mean by forward sound.

@RdandTrk1 Год назад

Been anticipating this review! Thanks for your hard work. Edit: I've had this speaker for over 6 months now and am in love with it. After watching the entire review, I can say that what you've said about it and what the data shows is fair, or that is to say, lines up with my experience. Nice work Erin! Any suggestions on a good speaker in this price range?

@ChihuAudioMan Год назад

Hopefully the Ultra bookshelves, and center are on the list for review as well. Wondering if they are a bit flatter in their response.

@Lauren080508 Год назад

I have the Ultras for more than 3 years, great looks, and sounded quite well to my ears but when I became more immerse in the audiophile world , i noticed the ASR review, although they measured quite well it was pointed out there was something going on with the high frequencies, I initially thought, BS as they sound very good to me, eventually i bought the cheaper Revel M16s, and put a set up with the Ultras a A speakers and the M16 as B speakers, and I have been AB testing for more than 6 months, eventually I noticed I was favoring the M16s, they sounded more natural to me. Recently i decided to do a more methodic AB testing with the tracks Harman used for the research on speakers tonality, and oh boy, the difference was even more evident, there is a song "hangin' on the good times by Little Feat" where the weirdness of the ultras highs stood out. they were just wrong while the revels were delightful. I demoted my ultras as surround speakers until I fully switch to revel speakers.

@ChihuAudioMan Год назад

@@Lauren080508 Do you use the Revels for movies or just music? I do own the Ultra center, and have considered the bookshelves as well, just haven't heard them. Comparing the Ultra to the older MCS-01 which is a beast, the MCS seems a bit more natural and effortless, but the Ultra center is very good, and seems better off axis as it's a 3-way. It does seem SVS has voiced their speakers a bit for vocal clarity which I am fine with personally, but would be nice if they didn't overdo it with the Ultra speakers. It's always nice to see the data to confirm!

@Lauren080508 Год назад

@@ChihuAudioMan I have the ultra center too, lol, when playing stereo the center is off but when playing dolby atmos music the center comes alive, and I can clearly tell the ultra center is brighter than my revels, there is a consensus in the ASR community the SVS speakers are unnaturally bright, but they can play loud, but there is no strict rules pal, only doing AB testing you can tell which speaker you like better.

@KravchenkoAudioPerth Год назад

Nice diffraction explanation Erin. Also liked your explanation of how beaming causes all kinds of problems.

@adamjj85 Год назад

Great review Erin. Nice to see SVS get some attention. I had the Prime Wireless and also experienced the 2-4k bump and lifted highs. I'd be curious how the Ultra's compare.

@ronniefarhat95 Год назад

Thank you for looking into this one! I would love if SVS were to send you their Ultra Center. In its price range, it seems to be one of the best 3-way centers out there. I’d be really interested to see what you think about it compared to others you’ve tested.

@ronniefarhat95 Год назад

Just finished watching the video and I must say, you really did a great job on this one explaining everything! Much appreciated!

@AntoG4RS Год назад

Best speaker reviewer, ever. Thanks for your great contribution to audiophile science.

@Huub1e Год назад

This sounds like a great HT speaker. It can handle high volumes and the midrange boost can help some dialogue.

@JF-em6hr 9 месяцев назад

Very smart to show the more forward sound on the fly. Thanks.

@mynthecooldude Год назад

Awesome review. When it comes to speakers there is always have to compromise, I think. What I want is 3 speakers left, right, and center for music and home theater. They have to be linear, loud, and a wide off-axis response. Aka a unicorn.

@nervouscough7115 Год назад

Preying to the audio Gods for a truthful and technical review of the SVS Ultra Towers.

@RanTausi Год назад

Many thanks for the review 👍👍

@bobstinker2074 Год назад

Hey Erin! Any update on a Danley Studio 2 monitor review? Really excited for a full range, phase coherent monitor. The price is rough though.

@dlloyd6300 Год назад

Looking at the vertical axis dispersion what do you think about flipping the speaker? It seems much more favorable below than above axis.

@TheBassallyear100 Год назад

the frustrating part with the Prime line is that the bookshelves and the towers do ok, especially with some EQ, but the matching center is just not great at all. I'd love to see a test of the SVS ultra center to see if it can keep up with its counterparts?

@r423sdex Год назад

Love the eq data 👍

@nervouscough7115 Год назад

Really REALLY hoping you review the SVS Ultra Towers. Be great to know what someone’s take on the Ultra Towers is when they’re NOT on the take!

@WillyLax24 Год назад

Is it better to EQ the speakers with the mic in the listening position in room or from a 1 meter gated measurement?

@curtismariani6303 Год назад

Hmm, interesting review. I do plan to use these and the centre at the front of my 7.1.4 setup with the Prime Satellites for surround. Is there a better speaker in this price bracket I should be considering? I do like a brighter speaker but not at the expense of voices sounding unnatural. The surrounds will be wall mounted but will have a decent sub to handle the base.

@ps.shots.93 11 месяцев назад

I like the way these look! 👍

@dkeener13 Год назад

Great work, thanks. Another YTer did a binaural recording of these vs some other speakers and I thought they sounded incredible and stole the show. But I suspect that the mid/treble boost was making them shine in a way that wouldn't quite come through the same in person. I want to like the idea of binaural recordings and comparisons on YT, and I think they can reveal some useful differences between speakers, but you can't completely trust them either.

@zzt231gr Год назад

Hey Erin! How about Elac Carina floorstander?

@MRPC5 Год назад

Feels like so many speakers "intended" for HT use are bright. Sure, EQ will help, but the common wisdom also seems to be to not EQ above Schroeder. Kind of like how many "rock" speakers are bright and make a lot of rock recordings unlistenable.

@agen7_smith Год назад

Thanks for rewiew.

@BuffSquadBigBenni Год назад

Great review! Could be awesome to see you review the SVS Ultra Bookshelves

@luisarps4654 Год назад

What is the best speaker? Rp-600m ii or SVS prime bookshelf

@MrWslindsay Год назад

I had the ultra bookshelves and it sounds like they have the same signature. I bought them for music and they got fatiguing to me for that application. Great for home theater. Ultimately sold them. I agree with you. If they had a flatter response I would revisit them one day. Beyond that, they were excellent

@Daminlk Год назад

I think speakers that measure like this are good for home theater. People normally do a dialog boost anyway that effects 2-6 khz

@-MarkWinston- Год назад

Erin, a side question. What are your thoughts on 3rd harmonic distortions at 1.5% - 3% at around the 1khz - 3khz region at 86db and 96db? Are such 3rd harmonic distortions really audible at 3% around the most sensitive part of our hearing?

@GB-je5tc Год назад

Thanks Erin, a VERY easy and thorough review to follow. Kudos on disclosure v-a-v SVS cabling option to obtain speakers w/o having to buy. SVS seems to employ good business ethics for fair reviewing. They definitely treat their customers well with 45day audits and 1 yr trade ups. I like them. Back to the review, your visuals definitely illustrate your hypothesis(sise) and "science don't lie" right? Good job, good research. I have Prime Elevations x 4 for ATMOS layer... was always curious of the larger models & lines for their character for bed layer, especially when it'll come to music. Concerts sound VERY believable so far at the moment a la 5.1 Thx and god bless.. :)

@marvinabugov4579 Год назад

Erin: Watched your centre channel shootout. Any experience with the Klipsch Pro 250 RPW LCR in-wall speaker? Is there a dispersion diagram for it somewhere?

@audfrknaveen2256 Год назад

Hey Erin if possible can you measure your own JBL theater speakers that you purchased from an old theater please..... 😊

@IsmaelMartinezPR Год назад

The link to the speaker cables?

@XudenGroupLLC Год назад

How would you rate the SVS Prime to the Arendal 1961 bookshelf?

@matthewkaptena9512 Год назад

Is it worth upgrading my side surround speakers from Sony Core bookshelves to these?

@hydroaegis6658 Год назад

Ooh I would love to see a review of the SVS Ultra bookshelves.

@ShamuXEagleDriver Год назад

EQ voice demos separate your reviews from the crowd. Very informative, combined with the data makes us more critical listeners and better educated consumers. Keep up the great work 👍

@alexorigoni8626 Год назад

Love your reviews. I hope if I listen to them long enough I’ll get a more complete understanding of all the nuances and how they relate to one another. Is Dr. Floyd Toole’s book the best place to start with building this knowledge, or is it a bit more advanced? Is there a “Loudspeakers for Dummies” book I should start with first? 😂

@Space-O-2001 Год назад

Great video as always. Erin can I make a small request and that is can you use a different colour text for the frequency on the graphs (top-down dispersion view) so the contrast pops better on those 66 and up dark blue zones as black is hard to see. Maybe bold white or if too faint on the yellows a dark to mid tone grey?

@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

I’ve tried different colors but it never fails that at some point the text gets washed out because the radiation patterns vary so much.

@Space-O-2001 Год назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner Okay fair enough - I wonder if its more a combination of heavy JPEG and YT compression as the definition gets worse over anything but white

@jdm724 6 месяцев назад

Hi Erin, i bought a set of dali opticon 2 mk2. i expercience forward sounding mid, exactly as you describe for the svs. how can you eq this? i have denon x3800h with xt32 and the app. or can i only eq this with dirac?

@RennieAsh Год назад

Sometimes the extra mid presence can be alluring. I'd like to get that sense of detail, spaciousness but with smoothness and depth too, probably have to use some good drivers for that with a decent design. I do prefer depth over continuously forward

@alexorigoni8626 Год назад

One more comment for the sake of throwing it out there. I’m absolutely dying to know how different styles of speakers would measure, and what your thoughts would be on products like the “Ohm Walsh” omnidirectional, or the Magnapan LRS planar magnetic.

@joelopez7459 Год назад

Pretty good IIRC the center is a 3-way also

@catherinelugg4321 Год назад

*SIGH!* I was curious, but given their competition, uhm, not so much. Thanks for the detailed data and context in which the data play out.

@audfrknaveen2256 Год назад

I know it's easy to ask but difficult to do 😊..but can you review any pro speaker that carry home theater worthy characteristics. Something like QSC SC1120 etc. We all know pro speakers come with higher power handling and sensitivity. But very curious to know how are they in terms of On and off axis linearity, horizontal and vertical dispersion, directivity etc....

@JBSCHAFFNER Год назад

I’ll keep my Elac debut reference set

@Dannyboy623 Год назад

Review PSA please

@-elijahriggs- Год назад

Ultra bookshelves next. I have Prime Pinnacles and dual SB 2000 pros in a "2" channel setup. The rest vintage. Pioneer SA 9800, Pl 550, Nagaoka MP 110 and when flac or 320k, a schitt modi 3+. I'm happy with it. I have the treble turnover at 2.5k and jack it up to +3 to +5 and in VLC am learning shelf filter now. Gene said 6k. *I've been watching your channel for awhile. You and Audioholics (Dr. Floyd Toole) are why I went with dual subs and knew to place them 25% off the back and side walls (I have no better choice). These explanations are much easier to take in than they have been before. Have you done the minidsp eq for pinnacles?

@MFRiley Год назад

These are now $300. I've been going back and forth on buying these, or the Wharfedale Diamond 12.2s. They used to be the same price... Now that the Primes are 40% cheaper, I'd be hard pressed to buy the Wharfedales over them. Would love to hear your thoughts on the Wharfedales. Don't think you've reviewed them. I'm guessing you'd prefer them over the Primes as they are a more neutral speaker, but now price difference plays a part in deciding which is a better buy.

@leo11877 Год назад

SVS please do horn or AMT tweeter designs. If you still want to keep dome tweeters, do a soft silk dome tweeter.

@beatprocess 8 месяцев назад

These or Diamond 220?

@250fTrailRider Год назад

Any chance I can send you a bmw oem 676 mid and tweeter to test?

@ErinsAudioCorner Год назад

I’m not currently set up for a driver testing in my new place.

@250fTrailRider Год назад

@@ErinsAudioCorner what do you think is the top 2 or so 4” mid that will fit in a bmw door?

@EnergyBreakCrew Год назад

Hello Everyone! I apologize in advance for this longer comment, I hope someone with more experience and knowledge can help out as the internet articles were rather confusing that down right helpful. That said, I am new to this sphere of (sound) technology and am looking for a suiting Amplifier for future SVS Prime Bookshelf Speakers and SVS SB-1000 combination. So far I've owned few mini stereos and Home Theatres 5.1, and after thorough "research", solely based on RU-vid Reviews and Comparisons, I came do decision that the previously mentioned Components are my go-to choice, from price stand point and what they deliver. What Reviews do not touch up on are suiting Amplifiers, and that's my current struggle. I don't know what to look for in a Amplifier and if it's a good fit for wished speakers and sub. My Amplifier (not Receiver) budget would be €450/$490. Hope someone here can help out with a useful comment. Thank You in advance!

@milancaterers9729 Год назад

Hi Buddy, waiting for your review on the Definitive technology D11. Regards 🙏

@stevenma2010 Год назад

Erin, when you've had a long day, and you're home listening to your favorite album/cd (possibly with an adult beverage), what speakers do you prefer to listen to?

@njrumenos Год назад

Great review as always, thanks. It would be awesome to see you review the GR Research X-LS Encore some day!

@velocipedeacoustics5790 Год назад

This speaker looks like it has shallow crossover slopes base on the frequency response shape. So I did a quick google, and it looks like second order slopes on the picture I saw. This may be a good opportunity for a crossover upgrade to smooth out both the frequency response and the DI.

@fred215 Год назад

Tell SVS send you ultras

@hiresaudiocosta873 Год назад

I figured you would use them with your sock speaker cables and then burn in and test the one SVS speaker cables they sent you. And describe the audible and measured differences. Soundstage characteristics is what you might consider including in your reviews instead of only response / tonal measurements. Changes in sound staging is what stereo playback is all about. Otherwise, one can just use a single speaker with great tonality and call it done. It’s my wish that all stereo reviewers would incorporate more sound stage characteristics in their descriptions of stereo gear. Thank you for your consideration 😊

@-MarkWinston- Год назад

Soundstage charactersitics can and will change from room to room and in the data directivity and dispersion charateristics of a speaker can indicates how 'big' a soundstage of a speaker would be relative to other speakers in the same exact room. After all the data is laid out, you will still need to hear it for yourself, in your room, with your equipments to see if it fulfils your requirements and personal preference.