Swapping FZ1 Rotor, Before it EXPLODES!

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The Yamaha FZ1 is a fantastic bike, with a few potentially disastrous shortfalls. One of those is the Rotor unit that was built into the earlier models. This early rotor design has adhesive bonded magnets which through vibration, heat or plain bad luck, have the potential to come loose and cause a hand grenade like effect on the innards of the engine. 'Thankfully', Yamaha realised this error (though they never admitted that it was an error) and created an improved design in which the magnets were sheathed behind a metal wall, thus rendering them forever imprisoned and unable to destroy any more poor innocent engines!
In this video I will be preemptively swapping out my old rotor for the newer design so that I can stop having nightmares about my bike committing Harikari while I'm 6000ft up on a mountain pass!
AFAIK This fix is relevant for the FZ1 all years up to and including 2014, but there’s probably some overlap so the only way to be sure is to check!
It's also exactly the same rotor (and I assume same problem) with the FZ8 from 2010 onwards and the YZF-R1 from 2004 - 2008.
The old part number is: 5VY814500000
The NEW part number is: 2SH-81450-00-00
I have seen a few people advertising Rotors under the new part number, but actually selling the design with the exposed magnets. So watch out! If you can SEE the magnets, leave it WELL alone!!
That being said, apparently there is still a market for your old Rotor once you've completed the swap. But that's a moral dilemma for you to work out with your own conscience as to whether or not you feel happy selling a part that could very well destroy somebody else's bike!!
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@finddtime7008 5 лет назад

I bought my 09 FZ1 about 7 months ago and that's the first thing I did was this upgrade. Takes only a few minutes and it's easy. Best insurance ever.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

If I'd known about it, I would have done it a lot sooner too! Thankfully it seems that I was one of the lucky ones!

@nickarnold8417 2 года назад

Did it make any noise before you replaced it. My bottom end is making a sort of gravely noise …🤔😬😒

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

No, mine was completely silent. The part was even still 100% intact. I just didn’t know for how long!!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

@@nickarnold8417thats your clutch brother

@UseitLoseit 5 лет назад

All good, you obviously know what you're doing. My only bit of advice thrown in, is always remember what holes the bolts came out of. Admittedly they all look the same length in this instance, but many a time I've taken covers off and found some bolts longer or shorter than others, or even different thread sizes. Don't just throw them in a heap and hope for the best when replacing.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Thats a very good tip. Cheers Nick. I got lucky this time!

@MySmallunix 4 года назад

I was watching random videos on the Tube when I saw yours...I ordered the new rotor and replaced as well on my FZ1-N (2011). It’s incredible how a giant motor company like Yamaha didn’t make a public campaign. What can happen if the rotor explode while you drive on the highway? Shame on you Yamaha. Thanks for sharing man!

@BobbyFett3994 3 года назад

Shame indeed. All the money the Yamaha company earns and they just leave their customers in the dark. Man, wth….

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

they did address it they started fitting the newer part within months of it being known. Its only the very early bikes that had the bad epoxy. On the 5vy R1 it got the better epoxy ones within 6 month and the full new sheathed part within a year. You want to moan about Yamaha when BMW, Ducati, KTM, Aprilia have a bunch of time bombs in them and they dont even bother upgrading the part? i mean the entire s1000rr is a heap of junk and needs everything on it redesigned to last more than 30k miles 😂 I know becaue ive had two and both melted out piston crowns on stock tune with one of them having piston 1 take a tumble in the barrel. That was then refited with a new engine on warranty, my mate bought it from me and the new engine blew up 17k miles later so he insurance jobbed it. Dont even start me on Ducati, my last ducati blew up so bad parts of its engine were in my boots. Yamaha are the best for recalls and upgrades out of ANY motorbike manufacturer and i should know, im a bike mechanic of 4 decades

@tiger98011 3 года назад

Finally installed mine yesterday on my 2011. Was a bit snug coming out, but I really appreciated you pay on putting it back in! My assembly came apart between our of the old and onto the new, so had to check the ship manual for the order of parts, but you video held me snap it back into the beating in about 1 minute by reaching my fingers to the back and turning one of the rotors to line them up. Thank you.

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

Very happy to help and glad you got it all back together Greg!

@1oldman668 2 года назад

Thanks Andy for the video. I know you’ve moved on but I just love my 2012 FZ1. Changed handlebar position, Yoshi exhaust Woolich tuned, it is so much better than stock - so smooth. At approx 37000 km, I decided to replace the Rotor. Followed your video, it was the best out there and so accurate 😎. When I pulled the rotor out, the gears, washer and spacer all came out with it so my biggest fear vanished. The old rotor was in perfect condition 🤔 - and I paid $$ for an OEM replacement 😳. Thanks for your help. Love the riding videos but also the garage ones. Keep it safe and thanks for your positive inspiration. If you ever come to Australia, I’d love to shout you a beer and take you for a ride.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

No surprise mate, it’s an awesome bike! That’s the real kicker with that rotor. It looks totally fine, until it’s not! Might never go, could explode tomorrow. At least you know that you’re 100% safe now!!

@cklamNL Год назад

Extraordinary explanation, all do's and don'ts. When I was removing the rotor I was really terrified that parts would fall into the engine case but guess I was lucky. Thanks for the video!

@AndyManCam Год назад

Thanks CK, cheers for watching and glad yours went smoothly!

@NETRAracer4636 2 года назад

You, my friend, are a life saver. I may not have had the confidence to tear this apart without this very descriptive and well made video. Thank you!

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Thank you kindly Matt. It was a little adventurous for me too, just to delve in! Alls well that ends well eh?! 😉

@BobbyFett3994 3 года назад

Ugh!! @9:36 Felt bad for ya when the magnets on the new rotor pinched your fingers, Andy. You deserve a pint of your favorite beer for that!! Thanks for sharing your rotor replacement video with us; very helpful and informative. Cheers, Bro🍺

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I should have known that it was going to happen! My pleasure Viktor, happy to help!

@phillipangell5131 5 лет назад

AMC. I have been without internet access for 6 whole weeks, yours was the first video I watched upon my return, how I missed you you'll never know!

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

What absolute HELL that must have been for you! :O At least you're finally back and getting your fix! ;D

@ArielSaez 5 лет назад

Having seen your video, now I encourage myself to do it when my new rotor arrives. Thank you very much for sharing! Greetings from Argentina!

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

I can only recommend it! I sleep better now, knowing that I should be good for a while now!

@falseneutral7890 5 лет назад

Respect for staying calm after being "bitten" by the bike, I know I wouldn't have 🤣 Nice tutorial 👍

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Cheers! I had to remember several things. Firstly, if I just pulled my finget out, then the gasket could have gotten kinked and the job would be sidelined. Secondly, my mum watches these videos too!! :D

@russelllocke7180 5 лет назад

I’ve never seen that job done before Andy. The little tips you provide in making the task easier are helping my less than average, but improving, home servicing skills. Cheers. 👍🏍🇦🇺

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Thanks Russell. Happy to be even vaguely helpful!!

@pietervanderweij4855 5 месяцев назад

Best flyweel swapping movie of RU-vid, thanks for the great video

@lunatiC_600 3 месяца назад

Hey buddy, thanks for this video! 🍺 Today I checked the magneto in my FZ8 and your instructions helped me a lot 👌 Have a nice weekend 🔥

@rosesmith5135 4 года назад

Wow very interesting issue with this bike ! I was considering buying a newer year version of this motorcycle but with these obvious design flaws I will need to continue my search ... many thanks for shedding light on this important matter !

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Yeah it'S a bit of a killer. It's cool that it's fixable, but 400€ for a preventative fix that might not ever be necessary is a large negative for the bike as a whole. After 2015, I think they all had this rotor installed from the factory. But that was the last year!!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

Its not that common. It really isnt.

@jeffspears8801 6 месяцев назад

Thank you brother,just completed my '08 ...smooth as silk!

@DJCURRENSY 4 года назад

I thought about doing this over the summer on my 04 R1... didn't... a few weeks ago BOOM... rattle noise and power cut off on the bike mid ride... looks like a easier job than I expected, thanks for the video

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Bugger. Sorry to hear about that. Hope you got it sorted out ok.

@DJCURRENSY 4 года назад

@@AndyManCam I'll be ripping apart next weekend and ordering parts

@DJCURRENSY 4 года назад

@@AndyManCam ordered parts this week, should be here today, going to knock it out this weekend and have her back on the road again. Thanks for the video again, most of the vids i've seen are half ass, no info or just cant see, pretty straight forward though.

@MotoRic 5 лет назад

Thanks Andy, I’ve ordered it for my Fz8 now. Most Fz8 owners have reported that it goes bang at around the 30k mark and I’m currently at 27k ,don’t want to test my luck !!

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

I can fully understand that! I was going to run the clock on mine but caved after hearing about the giving up as little as 15,000 miles in!! 😳. Annoying, but also satisfying to know that it’s a potential problem avoided! Hope your swap goes well mate.

@KAShuACE_8807 4 года назад

Wow

@KAShuACE_8807 4 года назад

I'm almost at 14k

@mickeymouse4897 2 года назад

There's a simple easier way to install the casing, us a couple of long thin rods thru casing & into motor mount holes, keep casing away from magnetic zone, this will line it up perfectly onto dowels, keep rotor held in place as u did, casing will self align when magnets take hold ... watch the pinkies lol.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Sounds good. Hopefully I’ll never have to worry about doing it ever again though!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

you can just put it on properly and line it up before the magnets grab it and keep your mits out the way. Theres nothing hard about it

@craighoffman8160 4 года назад

Hello from Colorado. Brilliant video my RU-vid FZ1 brother! Complete with finger pinching and all. I appreciate your going the extra mile! Brilliant idea about holding the rotor through the cover's port while taking it out and putting it in. Like you, the rotor in my '06 has not exploded (yet) and I just got the updated one to install. Your video will help greatly. Hopefully will avoid the pinched finger issue too ;)

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Thanks Craig, i do what i can! 😉. Good luck with your swap and enjoy the relaxation afterwards, knowing that your rotor will more likely last the life of the bike!

@duken4evr 4 года назад

@@AndyManCam Got her done today, the old rotor was perfect, bearings are perfect, no bleeding involved. A long Phillips screwdriver though the port to hold the rotor in and then holding the cover with my fingertips to avoid your finger pinching episode and it pulled itself together nicely due to the magnets involved. The bike pretty much assembled itself at that step like magic - hehe... Thanks again my friend!

@dennywenzel6083 Год назад

Yep! That´s what happens to my Yamaha FZ8 Fazer 2014 a few weeks ago. I was in Norway near the northcape. 3500km far from home the magnets of the rotor destroyed the stator. Now I have a completely new generator. Thanks to the Yamaha workshop in Alta (Norway).

@AndyManCam Год назад

Sorry to hear that mate. I hope it didn’t ruin the trip too much. At least now you know that it shouldn’t happen again!

@dennywenzel6083 Год назад

@@AndyManCam Everything fine. That was part of the adventure and the repair took only 2 days. ☺️

@AndyManCam Год назад

@dennywenzel6083 Glad to hear it! Great attitude! 🤙🏼

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

thats just bad luck as the 2014 has the newer one in it.

@leespender4774 2 года назад

Hello Andy from Australia i just got a 2010 FZ1N and the first thing i bought is this updated rotor i took the cover off to change it and there was already the updated one looking back at me lol thanks to the previous owner but now i have two updated rotors haha

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Ha! What are the chances! Still, at least you can either get your money back or sell to another poor FZ1 owner scrabbling sound for the right part!

@leespender4774 2 года назад

@@AndyManCam Yes that is true 👍

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

So that’s 400$ you can spend on something else cool!!

@leespender4774 2 года назад

@@AndyManCam I am going to restore her to showroom condition eventually so it will be a long term project the $400 will help

@Viper6-MotoVlogger 5 лет назад

You did a fine job mate and gave yourself some peace of mind. It still boggles my mind that some random engineers thought it would be acceptable to bond magnets to the rotor 🙄.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

You're damned right! Ever since I heard about it I was dreading every ride in case the bike exploded! Thankfully now I can relax!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

epoxy can easily bond magnets at way faster rpm than that for decades on end. The problem is the epoxy type and the use of non-compatable oil. The upgraded one uses West Systems 105 epoxy from the marine world, wheras the failing one used 3M epoxy that although good it just doesnt like being oiled up it has less resistance to oil than the purer 105 stuff from West System. Its also noticable that the bond failure happens at the rotor side rather than at the magnet side, my own opinion of this is that the rotor surface was over polished on the places the magnets were bonded to therefore less mechanical bond. Add that to the oil deteriorating the 3M epoxy and you have a drama waiting to happen. What people need to remember though is its still a rare occurance as 5VY R1 is widely regarded as one of the most reliable motorbikes ever created. They rarely give any issues at all.

@Viper6-MotoVlogger 9 месяцев назад

@@bigduphusaj162 👍

@Cyverion 4 года назад

Many thanks for the helpful video. I'll be tackling this myself during the coming winter months.

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

My pleasure! Hope your fix goes well.

@MyRandomLife247 5 лет назад

I did this exact job on my FZ8 so it's identical to yours. I had to change the stator cover gasket as it was weeping slowly. When I took that rotor to check the bearings that washer/bush actually fell into the sump. I was livid!!!! Luckily I ducked out and bought a magnet on a stick and managed to fish it out. Bullet dodged..... I miss that bike. Your bike makes me reminisce of those days.... To be honest, I don't miss it that much with my Hornet 900 :P.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

PHEW! That was my idea of a nightmare too! But I've ALWAYS had a magnet on a stick! Vital tool!

@myname9252 3 года назад

How many miles was on it at this time?

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

About 50,000km i think.

@myname9252 3 года назад

@@AndyManCam Thanks for responding. Im probably good on mine(4300 miles) but now Im way too paranoid and am just gonna replace it now since its an 06. Thanks for the vid!

@MOTOCICLISTA29 5 лет назад

Nice. I have just comment before on the other video regarding that problem

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Cheers! I'm so VERY glad that the problem is now GONE!

@cannedSardina 3 года назад

Good vid dude. I’ll be watching this while performing this rotor swap this weekend.

@JetMech100 5 лет назад

Just found your channel. Instantly subscribed. Great content. And thanks for the info. I have a 2007 FZ1 so I might have to look into this.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Thanks very much mate and welcome to the channel! I was losing sleep thinking about this bloody rotor nonsense. Especially as I have a trip coming up soon! SO glad I got it out of the way!!

@cornish_boy6235 5 лет назад

So glad you did this, mine failed but was still lucky as it didn’t destroy anything else apart from the bearings.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

That is lucky! Though even the bearings is a bit of a pain in the arse!! I'm glad mine were still good!

@cornish_boy6235 5 лет назад

Yeh the one in the casing was a pain to do.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

I really lack the space and tools for bearings in my garage, so I live in constant fear of one failing!!

@cornish_boy6235 5 лет назад

Andy Man Cam haha I was like that until I moved this year, my only condition to the misses was I wanted a garage, lol

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

And too bloody right!! I gave up my private garage when we moved nearer the city centre. I’ve still got my garage space, but it’s rubbish sharing with people!! I miss it terribly!!

@theishan2290 Год назад

Is that a main stand on your FZ1? Give me more information about it.

@AndyManCam Год назад

Indeed it is. From SW-Motech 👍🏻

@brianwiniarski4490 3 года назад

Thanks for posting. Didn't know there was a issue. I'll have to take mine apart and see which one I have. It has 39k on it.

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

It's very annoying. Good luck!

@northernninjarunner5506 5 лет назад

She was only giving you a love bite 🤣

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

If that's what love feels like, I don't want to get her angry!!

@peterroda4181 Год назад

Did you find the booster plug a serious improvement?

@AndyManCam Год назад

In the Versys 650 it was a serious improvement. On the FZ1 it was maybe a 20% improvement. On the CB1000R, more like 10%.

@peterroda4181 Год назад

@AndyManCam Thanks for letting me know. I'm installing it on a cb650r. Hopefully I'll see some improvement with its smoothness.

@AndyManCam Год назад

Fingers crossed mate. Annoying that manufacturers still aren’t seeing this dodgy fuelling as priority number one!

@alexfr811 8 месяцев назад

well... too late... mine already exploded... what to do from here? do I have to open the engine to make sure that remaining of the rotor were not left inside, or something like that?

@AndyManCam 8 месяцев назад

Sorry to hear that Alex. Sadly yes, you need to find all the bits. Removing the oil sump first would probably be the best start. If you find all the pieces in there, you’ll be good to go. Assuming you’ve already taken the rotor out. Sometimes all the parts stick together or to the outside of the rotor housing. Good luck!

@alexfr811 8 месяцев назад

@@AndyManCam thx Andy for your answer... And would the stator and the regulator need to be replaced?... I've noticed that the stator is a bit damaged but burnt... What do you think?

@AndyManCam 7 месяцев назад

I’m afraid i honestly couldn’t answer that. I’m afraid it all depends how damaged. If it’s not paint current properly, then it’ll need replacing.

@chrismallios1621 Год назад

Is this a issue for the FZ1 2006 and newer? Is this an issue tor FZ1 made before 2003?

@AndyManCam Год назад

Only for the 2006 and onwards. Before that it was a completely different engine.

@deegaw11 Год назад

Just bought myself a 2014 fz1 with 6300 miles. I would like to check my rotor to see if it’s still in good shape. Would I get away with using the old gasket again?

@AndyManCam Год назад

Nope, you’ll need a new gasket.

@deegaw11 Год назад

I’ve only ridden it twice so far but during cold starts it would take 2-3 tries to start. Once the bike is warmed up it has no trouble starting. Previous owner did not ride it much and let it sat for awhile. It only has 6k miles but would it be a bad stator rotor?

@americawhereareyou Год назад

@@deegaw11 The hard starts are a different issue. My 06 isnt the best at starting you have to give a little gas to keep the revs up for like 20 seconds until it levels out. Switch the rotor before it fails. If you do it yourself RMSTATOR has a kit to replace the rotor, stator and gasket for just about 300 bucks. If yours is charging fine then you can getaway with just the rotor, about 200 bucks and 16 or so for the gasket. Its not a matter of if it will fail, just when.

@madesign89 2 года назад

is it possible tu replace only rotor? many tnks!

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

I did change only the rotor. Everything else (except for the gasket) was original.

@madesign89 2 года назад

@@AndyManCam thank you so much, have a nice day!

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

My pleasure! You too!

@erikschei1481 2 года назад

Thanks for the videos man, but now I have to do this. There is no way that I’m not going to be thinking about it as I cruise along. I have a 06 fz1 with 18.7k miles on it, and I know the last guy did not do this. I’m still deciding to do the handlebars or not. Your video on that does not make it look like a real good time lol. But I’m happy it’s there, so I know what I’d be in for. Thank you again for the videos, always super helpful. Stay safe out there.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

I know that feeling! As soon as ever people had told me about it, i expected that every ride was the one during which the engine would implode!! Yeah the bars was a challenge and a lot of effort. Think long and hard!!

@erikschei1481 2 года назад

I just replaced mine. I also had to put it in 6th gear to get it on, and fish my finger back there to get it in. On another note, I have had a hard time finding a video for adjusting clutch engagement for fz1. After I put my new levers on and adjusted tension at the lever, my engagement is right up against the grip. Which is not ideal. I’m wondering if I’m going to have to pop up the tank and adjust it there as well.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Nice one. Sadly I’m afraid so, yes. Luckily the tank is pretty easy to free up and it’s hinged at the back too, so you can prop it up like a car bonnet.

@erikschei1481 2 года назад

@@AndyManCam I’m dumb, i just turned it some more and it’s perfect. Thank you for the help on all this stuff. I’ve been able to watch one of your videos on pretty much everything I’ve done to the bike this past week and a half. She’s ready for the summer. New rotor, spark plugs, new chain/rear sprocket, new front/back tire, braided brake lines front/back, new levers, heated grips, new horn, new brake pads, oil change/filter, and coolant flush.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Glad to hear it. No trouble at all. Sounds like you’ve got more new bike than old! Happy riding!

@grgrider8642 4 года назад

Nice video brother. I changed my rotors at 14000 miles, she has just clocked over 33000 miles and loving it every single day. You haven’t experienced low rpm splutter or anything have you? Im having this issue recently as if bike is running out of fuel and the rpm splutters below 2K. Have looked at forums for FZ1 but were mostly with the carb bikes.

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Thanks mate. My pleasure. It’s a relief to know that the problem has been removed, isn’t It! I’ve actually had a bit of a problem with poor fuel delivery and it was the kinked fuel line problem. I fixed it in a video. Check this out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J722YUupM7o.html

@grgrider8642 4 года назад

Andy Man Cam Thanks man. Ill look into it tonight after work 👌🏼👌🏼

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

No worries. I hope that it sorts your problem.

@grgrider8642 4 года назад

Andy Man Cam It was the bugger fuel line being kinked when dropping the tank down. It was very hard plastic with nearly more than half kink in it. Changed it with flexible fuel hose from halfords and job done. No more splutter 👍🏼👍🏼.. thanks mate, your a life saviour 👌🏼👌🏼 Happy riding 🏍🏍

@mobleyMobley 2 года назад

Is that oem rotor or aftermarket? What do you think of the aftermarket rotors?

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

OEM. I wouldn’t waste your money on aftermarket. I’ve heard many tales about them being of lesser quality than the original dud part.

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

Dont go near them. Im a bike mechanic the RM ones last 2yr, the openly chinese ones can last 2 days or 2yr. Get the oem one and use recommended oil only, the oil broke the epoxy down this is the issue.

@mobleyMobley 9 месяцев назад

@@bigduphusaj162 i bought the oem rotor, haven't installed it yet

@dazjoy4074 5 лет назад

Hey Andy great video, aw you bastard 😂 my bike bit me, funny funny mate, prevention is always better mate, especially when it could potentially kill the engine, good job bud 👍🏼

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Cheers Daz! I've got scars from that encounter! Physical AND psycological!

@rayg2627 6 месяцев назад

What are the top 5 problems on gen2 fz1s i want to buy 1 but dont know what to look out for when buying

@ralfeschen6482 3 года назад

Herrlich, mein Motorrad hat mich gebissen 😂👍🏻

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

Schlagartig und gnadenlos!

@zosin8970 2 месяца назад

Do I need to drain the engine oil before opening up the stator cover?

@AndyManCam 2 месяца назад

No. All the oil is well below the level of the stator. There might be a couple of drops, but it won’t come gushing out, don’t worry.

@zosin8970 2 месяца назад

@@AndyManCam thank you!

@zosin8970 2 месяца назад

@@AndyManCamnoticed my bike making whirring sounds recently, especially with prolonged revs or when riding normally. sounds like something is spinning without catching. when in idle or with clutch pulled in, the sound is gone. do you think this is the sign of the rotor needing to be replaced?

@AndyManCam 2 месяца назад

@zosin8970 I‘m not so sure. The rotor spins whether the clutch is engaged or not. If it didn’t, the bike would have no electric at idle. Might be worth taking a look at your clutch basket.

@zosin8970 2 месяца назад

@@AndyManCam thanks for some insight, thanks youve earned a subscriber ❤️

@mrcintheuk4641 5 лет назад

Excellence as standard from you. Question: Are you supposed to torque an item twice? I thought the second time you do it, it gives a false torque setting, which is why they all tightened up a bit more.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Thanks MrC. That’s quite possible. Though my thinking was that once all the bolts were tightened, the first ones to be torqued had now been relieved of some tension by the later tightened bolts. Like tuning a guitar you tune the first string, work through the other five and now the first one is out of tune because the others have been tightened and taken up some of the slack. I’ve been wrong before though!! 😂

@YeetxBoi 2 года назад

as a technician that has a peculiarity about torque specs I would say either method is fine. The important part is to go slow close to the torque spec and do not go past the point it clicks.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Of course. In German they have a saying „Nach fest kommt ab“ which means that after tight, comes off!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyManCamyou dont re-torque sequenced parts, the original torque figure is given as it equates to all the fasteners backing off as the gasket squashes. All you are doing is over squashing the gasket if you re-torque. I mean the torque value is so low you will get away with it but if you do that on camshaft half clams or the likes you will mess your engine up for defo. You can snap a camshaft in half re-torquing when its already been torqued up or if you dont sequence correctly. Trust me, the most expensive one i messed up was a sierra cosworth RS500 block (think its called the 205 block it has bigger block plugs the RS500 engine over the normal YB) and cost me another £500 for the OEM cam it snapped. I knew not to do it but i thought i seen one of them move as i done the opposite end.

@videovaccser 2 года назад

Hello, anybody knows that which years of manufacture are affected? I have a 2015 FZ8n. Can I check it by VIN?

@AndyManCam Год назад

As far as i know it was from the bikes made in 2015 that were sorted. But some 2015 registered bikes were actually made in 2014. Musst be some way to find that from the VIN.

@karta3989 10 месяцев назад

Hi Amc. Thank you for this educational video. Could you please share a link related to where to buy this upgrade rotor from? Many thanks in advance

@AndyManCam 9 месяцев назад

I bought mine from Motorcycle Spare Parts Europe.

@BucketWheat 5 лет назад

What year model was the 'up-dated' rotor used..? I have a 2012 model. Do I need to up-grade my rotor? I ride pretty aggressively -- including occasional Track Days. And I sure don't want to be 'up in the mountains' and have something come apart!

@marcelinhayden6441 5 лет назад

Bad. I have the 2012 black and white. Stater went bad at 35k miles. Warranty fix for free but I believe they used an old school bad design part.

@tentacleprty 5 лет назад

2012 has old design. Only 2015 has new one from factory

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Awesome stuff from Yamaha, Marcelin. Replace a known bad part with another known bad part, purely because they've clearly got thousands of them sitting on shelves!

@dr6507 5 месяцев назад

I have a 08 fz1 with 7300 miles that i just purchased, would like too know the part # so i can replace mine. Btw great video too

@Monster-py6xr 5 месяцев назад

Do I need to remove the oil before changing it?

@michaelpagunsan8596 3 года назад

is that same with 2008 R1?

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I honestly couldn'T tell you. I think yes, but can't be sure. Maybe have an ask on the R1 forums. I'm sure if it is the case, somebody out there will have experienced it.

@AndreiBran 8 месяцев назад

Fz8 has the same problem?

@AndyManCam 8 месяцев назад

I don’t know I’m afraid.

@christophermyers4422 Год назад

could you give me were brought from and how much cost ?

@AndyManCam Год назад

The part numbers are in the description, google is your friend.

@loganobrien8261 3 года назад

Is this the same for 2012 fz8

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I'm afraid I couldn't say. I think yes, but that'S merely an assumption.

@bharadwajbungab 10 месяцев назад

Very helpful video mate! Now that I've acquired the skill to do it myself at home, I'm confused about choosing the right part. OEM one from Japan or the one from RM Stator?

@AndyManCam 10 месяцев назад

I personally went with the OEM part, as I knew that the fit and finish would be the best.

@bharadwajbungab 10 месяцев назад

@@AndyManCam Thanks for the reply! Me too going with the OEM one

@AndyManCam 9 месяцев назад

@bharadwajbungab My pleasure. Hope the swap goes well.

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

@@bharadwajbungabdont go near the RM one its worse. The Yamaha replacememt parts are all fine they use the better epoxy now.

@jhernandez77794 3 года назад

What the replacement part # for the rotor you installed? What year did they start implementing the new rotor that you had put on?

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

It’s all in the description Jon 👍🏻

@jhernandez77794 3 года назад

Yes, I read description. But when I look up part # 2SH-81450-00-00. I get OEM YAMHA and RM Statoe and several off brands. Did you buy Yamha OEM.

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I bought the part with that part number, so probably yes.

@kirbyjohnny792 3 года назад

What year fz1 you got there ?

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

It’s a 2006. From what I’ve heard, only the 2015 already had this rotor in from the factory.

@kirbyjohnny792 3 года назад

I just bought a 2014 model

@poorguy915 5 лет назад

I'm also thinking of checking my rotor. I don't know if my FZ1 is running with the new part or the old one. I heard Yamaha made the new rotor a standard after 2012 model. Mine is a 2012 model but we're not sure exactly which month Yamaha decided to make the switch so I'll have to check it first!

@tentacleprty 5 лет назад

It was only standard on 2015s. I replaced mine in a 2012

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Well there you go, good to know!!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

2012? the 5VY R1 had the better epoxy by 2005 and the sheathed upgraded part with the code 101 rather than 100 by early 2006. The 101 coded part was available from late 2005 so no idea whos saying 2012 as the 2012 code is the same 101 number in the middle of the part code.

@aspectcarl 5 лет назад

Yep did mine a few months ago👍

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Congrats! then you likely feel as smug as I do now that it's done!!

@saidfrh 3 года назад

Replace with after market, if so what brand? Has Yamaha addressed the issue on their replacement rotors?

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I don’t think there is an aftermarket option.

@saidfrh 3 года назад

@@AndyManCam Was there a recall?

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I don’t think so. They mostly let folks pay for their own repairs.

@tiger98011 4 года назад

Great video, thank you! I purchased my 2011 used with 6k miles on it in 2017. I have no idea if the orig owner did this update. It looks like i can just take the screws out and take off the cover to see if it's been updated, replace the seal and reseal it together again?

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Hey, thanks Greg! Absolutely yes. You can take a look and just replace the gasket after. 👍🏻

@giamademedoit 7 месяцев назад

@tiger98011 what happened with your rotor? Did it have the exposed magnets?

@tiger98011 7 месяцев назад

My initial one was the oem, with the magnets visible. I replaced it with the rmstator version.

@RobsBodgecast 2 года назад

Great video, I can confirm that until you spill blood as a sacrifice to your R1, the stator cover won't sit correctly. Seriously, as soon as I was bitten by the bike, it wouldn't sear.

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Sad but true of so many bike parts! I don’t think i have any knuckles left without scars! 😂

@louteix9981 Год назад

Hello my friend, just happened the same thing to me, and just have a question do I need to drain the engine oil? Thank you very much.

@MennoCaniels-ep4hr Год назад

i am gonna flush it twice

@AndyManCam Год назад

If you’re worried that parts have fallen into the engine, then definitely yes. And then try to find the bits that you think you are missing, just to be sure that you got it all.

@Kill3r360 5 месяцев назад

Should I do It im looking to buy a 2012 ?

@lucianosalvi9459 3 года назад

AndyManCam lamentablemente es una falla de fabrica que yo no sabia ya que es mi primera moto en 4 cilindros compre una FZ8 y al mes de uso me paso esto, gracias a tu video supo lo que era, te lo agradezco, pero quiero que me saque las dudas, vos sacaste el carter de la moto y cambiaste el aceite, la duda es que si se desparramen los imanes o no se desparraman por el motor, porque al fondo del motor tiene el chumador que envia el aceite al filtro.

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

That's a real shame. Sorry Luciano. I agree that if the rotor has failed, it's a good idea to take things apart and remove all the pieces. Such a pity that Yamaha did this to it's customers and never attempted to fix it for them.

@mikeninjitsu4665 3 года назад

How about the possibility of the frame cracking on at least some of the earlier Gen 2 FZ1's? Any thoughts on that or fixes or whatever? TIA

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

Unfortunately the only fix for the cracked frame problem is to have the frame rewelded or replaced. Another triumphant moment for Yamaha quality control and customer services 🤦🏻‍♂️

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

@@AndyManCamYou do know Yamaha have the most reliable bikes yeah?

@jaypearce6199 4 года назад

I have the 2008 fz1n ABS model, should I be considering this upgrade too? Thanks

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

I think that for the sake of the 10€ gasket, it might be worth opening her up and having a look. Just read down the comments here and see how many people it's happened to!

@jroach90 3 года назад

Hi Andy, little late to the game here. Any idea on what production years are in question? I’m on a 09 plate FZ1-S Cheers 👍

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

AFAIK it was only fixed in 2015.

@grahamabernathy8892 2 года назад

Hello, did you drain your oil before doing this? Thanks!

@AndyManCam 2 года назад

Nope. No need. Everything is drained into the sump.

@Me-yh4uc 5 лет назад

Why wouldn’t you stuff a rag above the crankshaft hole?

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Because A) the gap between the alternator cover and the rotor was too small to get anything through and B) if id put a rag over the crankcase before reinserting the rotor, the rag would still be there!!

@familyfun9474 Год назад

How long did the whole job take you? Thank you for doing the video. We are about to tackle the job.

@americawhereareyou Год назад

For me a leisurely 2 day event about 8 hours total. I replaced my stator and routing the cable is a pain. I opted to cut the old wire and snake it out of the zip ties. I ran the new one and just added 2 zip ties next to the original ones. Lifting the tank up doesn't really get you much more room to see the stator wire. I wish I knew that before pulling off the required parts to lift it because I would have skipped doing it. Good luck.

@myname9252 3 года назад

I replaced mine last night. Pretty easy job. I looked closely at the magnets. Little chips here and there and I can see some very small pieces along the rotor. 4500 miles mind you. Fkn Yamaha How is yours doing so far?

@47blackdeath Год назад

Thank you for the awesome video! Did you had any other issues with the new replaced rotor? My mechanic told me that this is a designed fault and the issue is reoccurring due to the bad position of the rotor. Thanks much!

@bigduphusaj162 9 месяцев назад

the new OEM replacement has a 101 in the middle of code rather than 100 that the old part had. The new one uses a better epoxy and has an inner sheath that completely protects the stator. Your mechanic is talking bollux mate. The problem was only ever the epoxy on the magnets of the rotor. Nothing else.

@JustSteve247 4 года назад

Sorry one last question, could you tell me which one I need to buy for my 2009 fz1 faired please ?

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

The same part for all years Steve. Part numbers are in the description. 👍🏻

@JustSteve247 4 года назад

@@AndyManCam brilliant. Getting an akripovic next week fitted so I think while I'm at it I will go for this also. Again, thanks for your help. Steve

@Craig3009 4 года назад

How do you know if you have a bike with this problem? I have a 2014 Yamaha Fz1

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

As far as i have heard, only the 2015 bikes had the new rotor. For the price of a gasket (about 10€) you can pull it out and take a look. It’s the only way to be sure.

@nickarnold8417 2 года назад

Did yours make any noise prior to replacing. The bottom end of my motor has a gravelly sound

@chong-kenglimdr8922 4 года назад

Hi. Great video. Do you have the part number for the gasket?

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Thanks very much. I’m afraid i don’t have a part number. I just searched for gasket for FZ1. I think mine was from Athena.

@GOBLINMASTER409 3 года назад

Hey, what year is your bike as I’m hearing they upgraded it after 2007 on the FZ1 and N. Great video btw

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

As far as I know, they didn't upgrade it until 2015.

@goansunborn Год назад

Excellent!

@AndyManCam Год назад

Cheers!

@gav_the_chef 4 года назад

did you drain the oil first?

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Nope. Just left it long enough that it all drained into the sump and the engine had cooled down.

@gtipsolutions 4 года назад

great video thanks...any suggestion about comment below

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Thanks Brian. I’m afraid I didn’t get that far into the guts of the thing to know. Sorry to be of no help. Have you tried asking on any of the forums? They’ve always been pretty helpful for me when I’ve had an issue. Hope you figure it out mate.

@yperformance 3 года назад

How many miles do you change it? Great job

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I think I was on about 30,000.

@TheKniperlight 3 года назад

From what year was this fixed out of the factory?

@oztastic1 4 года назад

which year bikes did this affect please?

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

As far as i am aware, 2006 - 2014. But also possible that some of the early 2015 models are also affected.

@ElGuestXD 3 года назад

Good video, greetings from mexico👌

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

Hey, thanks!

@garysavage5675 5 лет назад

Thought Yamaha would have backed that with a free upgrade it that was happening ?

@bikersquest 5 лет назад

There was a petition across a few countries to have them sort it but nothing came of it I think, I'm definitely a little disappointed with Yamaha after this though

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

You would think so, but apparently Yamaha's main priority is NOT making their customers happy and confident in their products.

@mikeshields39 5 лет назад

Sorry but had to lol when the bike bit you. 🤣

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

I'm so glad that my suffering entertains you!! ;P

@imw7094 5 лет назад

Hi Andy, just out of interest how much did the part cost and was it an original Yam part? With a euro = to a £ you wont have to convert it😀 I have new tyres and brake pads fitted for the next trip, out tomorrow to scrub them in.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Hi Ian! It was a lumpy part at 307€!! Original Yam part though. Should really have been replaced for free after so many exploded! I‘ve had an oil change, new air filter, throttle bodies balanced, and shed 8Kg by taking off the crash bars, center stand, rear seat and rear footpegs! Ready to go!! Just can’t decide between Rucksack or tailpack to go with the panniers.

@imw7094 5 лет назад

Andy Man Cam I can’t help you with tailpack v rucksack but there is space when we rv. Looks like a full service😀

@peterelmer9114 5 лет назад

I have noticed a slight rattling noise from the left hand motor cover, especially when hot, on my 2012 FZ1N (only done 8000 miles and owned from new) I spoke to Yamaha UK today - the customer service rep denied any knowledge of this problem and then suggested I take my bike back to my dealer for check up and if a problem is found they may consider some form of goodwill gesture. What to do ? Do I strip it myself or get involved with Yamaha. Feeling pissed off tbh as it’s an expensive replacement and the possibility of a potential failure is now on my mind.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Hi Peter. That's pretty disgusting of Yamaha to deny that this problem even exists. Documented and published cases are in to astonishingly high numbers! Which sadly means that it's quite likely the noise IS that, or that even if not, one day it will be. So either way you have to deal with it. In your position I would probably buy an OEM gasket, open her up and take a look myself. If you use a rod to hold the rotor in place as you remove the cover, you don't need to disturb anything. Then you can take a look and decide what to do with more info, before putting it back together with the fresh gasket. Though from what I have heard, Yamaha's idea of a goodwill gesture is usually to pay for the parts and you pay for the labour. Thankfully in this case, that shouldn't be any more than 1 hour. But still, hideous customer service that the consumer is treated this way. Then again, at 7 years old, your bike has survived the warranty period without going bang and Yamaha don't really care (or have to care) after that. Good luck mate, hope you figure it out.

@martinpospisil4148 5 лет назад

Hi Andy. I am following your channel, because I bought the same bike as you. Can you please share with me, where you have ordered the part and what was the price? I cannot find good link for ordering in Europe. Thanks a lot.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Hi Martin. Nice bike! ;D I got mine from www.kfm-motorraeder.de/ you could also get one from www.motorcyclespareparts.eu

@martinpospisil4148 5 лет назад

@@AndyManCam Thank you very much for your answer. You are a great source of ideas how to improve this bike. I have already installed Gipro same way as you did and it works perfectly.

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Thanks Martin, glad to hear it mate!

@northernninjarunner5506 5 лет назад

Sat watching this unpacking the Delkevic Carbon Oval BSAU Silencer and downpipes. Oh FZ1 you will breath like a giant

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Very nice! Enjoy the new throat, I'm very jealous and will have to get a full system one day!

@northernninjarunner5506 5 лет назад

Andy Man Cam Bikes dropped in to get full Delkevic Titanium and Carbon fibre full exhaust system (weighs 1.26Kg), Power Commander 5, blanking plates to remove the AIS, remove the EXUP cables and fit ASV stubby black levers. Pick her up Friday #bikeporn

@northernninjarunner5506 5 лет назад

Andy Man Cam Full Delkevic system was £379 including all springs washers etc and comes with a 5 year warranty

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

That's a bargain. Not sure of road legality in the stricter world of Germania with Delkevic stuff though. Just checked, no E-marking. So for me, that's sadly a big no-go.

@northernninjarunner5506 5 лет назад

Andy Man Cam It is road legal with a removable baffle

@MennoCaniels-ep4hr Год назад

mine exploded today, luckly the engine looks clean

@AndyManCam Год назад

That is lucky. I hope you managed to get it fixed 👍🏻

@sportshero732 2 года назад

Would I need to replace this on my 06? I just got the bike

@dekic13236 4 года назад

You need to change o ring in the spacer also.

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Meh. I think it's been soaked in oil most of the time and will have barely worn. They're supposed to last the life of the bike as this rotor change is ultimately a premature operation.

@dekic13236 4 года назад

@@AndyManCam well i have changed magneto and my o ring was almost destroyed. It desintregated when i tryed to remove it. It is very cheap o ring, why take any risk.

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Well then that is very different. Mine looked like new!

@dekic13236 4 года назад

Andy Man Cam you know that ring was in oil but oil had many cycles ( hot, cold, hot etc ) so it must have had effect on such small rubber part. Mine also looked brand new until i tryed to replace it with new o ring.

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Ok you win. Next time i change my rotor, I’ll change the o ring.

@747SP727 3 года назад

To fellow motorcycle enthusiasts if you are wanting to replace your rotor do not buy the rotors offered for sale on Ebay. Buy the genuine Yamaha rotor. The Ebay rotors will not fit and are of poor quality. I speak from experience of having purchased a non genuine rotor and trying to fit it to my FZ1. Spend the extra buckaroonies and save yourself the inconvenience. The genuine rotors are more expensive for a reason. They are far superior. 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️😢😊

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I totally agree. Spend more money here for peace of mind.

@giuliobuccini208 5 лет назад

By using blu nitrile gloves the job is done faster, the number of subscribers rises up, and the bike run better too! 😊

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Can't argue with that! *orders blu nitrile gloves*

@Andrei_GS 4 года назад

quite an expensive piece of metal, I'd say. In Romania, it sells for about 400 euros...

@AndyManCam 4 года назад

Yep, it’s very expensive. Incredibly annoying. But cheaper than replacing the engine if it destroys itself!

@ffllvv09 3 года назад

Hello Andrei, did you change the part?

@mrwiggy8593 5 лет назад

Hi Mr mancam. Any idea what year the upgraded rotor became standard on the fz1n? I Can't find any info anywhere. Also did you have to retune Your engine after swapping the muffler from standard? Your channel is excellent to mate. Best fz1 stuff on RU-vid. Keep up the good work

@tentacleprty 5 лет назад

Only the last year 2015 has the new rotor from factory.

@mrwiggy8593 5 лет назад

@@tentacleprty thanks for the reply. looks like I should buy one soon as I can afford it . I got a 2010 model. hard to believe yamaha would leave a duff rotor in their bikes for so long. Are there any signs the rotor is on the way out or will it just explode? Cheers

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

From what I've heard, it varies. Some have reported a whining sound, some a rattling, some instant failure with bangs and crashes and some just that the bike stopped charging and when they looked inside, it had fallen to pieces. Obviously all cases with varying degrees of damage depending on how far the magnets had wandered and whether or not they had broken up and gotten in to the bearings. I saw it as an expensive and annoying fix (Thanks Yamaha).But it was half the cost of what a destroyed generator would be and a fraction of the cost of stripping the whole engine down to pick pieces of exploded rotor magnet out of the cylinders! Not to mention the potentially ruined tour and the recovery costs.

@TimUninteressant 3 года назад

"Tendency to explode" "early models" What year was that fixed bei Yamaha, or did they even fix it? My fz1 is from 2011 and I am afraid, that it will blow some day... Thx

@AndyManCam 3 года назад

I think they (unfortunately) didn’t fix it until 2015, Tim. The only way to really know is to look inside I’m afraid.

@TimUninteressant 3 года назад

@@AndyManCam well you are right... I guess I will have to check it myself.. But thank you very much, for the very quick response. I bought my fz1 because of your videos and I am glad to have such good videos/ tutorials :) Ride safe

@trykozmaksym 5 лет назад

2:28 I once managed to damage the case so badly with a screwdriver so it started to leak oil :( only after that I found a bolt holding that together :D

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

Ha! Oops! Got to make sure they're ALL out first! Lesson learned eh?!

@trykozmaksym 5 лет назад

@@AndyManCam decorated garage walls with service manual pages

@AndyManCam 5 лет назад

That’s really not at all a bad idea! Torque values and exploded diagrams all immediately on hand!! Just have to finally get my own private garage and then I’m doing that!!