Sweden's chief epidemiologist: 'We are happy with our strategy' on Covid-19 

Very sad

Joe Chiato it’s so sad. We’ve been stuck under dictatorship for the last couple of months while the other states are living life :((

@@alexistanto9658 I suppose just hope you get through it. Hopefully at the next election the government will be voted out, not just the Premier, the the whole party.

Well people in Melbourne didn't heed the advice given at first & it was a necessary step to reduce the daily cases from more than 700 per day. Hopefully it has kept the rest of Australians safe. Maybe if people took this virus seriously & kept social distancing ,wore masks & sanitised hands frequently then these measures wouldn't have been necessary. This virus will be around for a long time yet so masks should be compulsory in public.

That's got nothing to do with a virus.

@Rune Børsjø all other countries obviously acted hysterical.

@Rune Børsjø hw Nowrway the Politicians set the rules not the Folkhelsedirektoratet. the give advise to politicians and they chose to go longer choose to go longer and Thhe difference in swedish Strategy and Norwegian strategy was Closing all scools in norway and in sweden we closed only "Videregående" an now in the end norway whereing facmasks in Public transport sweden do not. th e diffrent in deathtolls comes to the elderly homes there has sweden faild totaly 3000 och the deths could be related to Eledrly homes and the catastrophic way that was handeled. So strategy in total is almost the same in sweden and norway.

Bullshit. Sweden is a proof that even a crazy society can exist in normal times. In this crisis however it’s plain for anyone who wants to look that it’s all varnish. 5800 dead and counting

Not really. Because our so called "startegy" has its basis in ideology and not science. This is clear by the many self-condradictions and ideological statements made by Tegnell. Sure, it's important to listen to scientists - that's why you have to listen to the scientists in Norway, Denmark, South Korea and basically the rest of the world whom Tegnell disagrees with on ideological grounds.

Pretty shit scientists then.

@Terry Tater the further you are from Bernie, the wealthier you are. the guy is a damned commie who wants to tax everyone's last penny

@Terry Tater exactly 💯

How did it become social, when they let the market decide, whether they have to follow or not, it is a market based approach , what China did is the Bearnie style , same as like the Democrats are imposing to wear a mask and stay home rules no matter what

Nah, it's the opposite.

Terry Tater Bernie is not a social democrat, he’s an democratic socialist. The difference is enormous! One of the biggest lies out there is that Bernie wants to copy the Scandinavian model. Cuba and Sweden have few similarities!

Literally all of our elders have died? And they were treated in inhumane manners?? Do some research please

Yes we are basically over it now. Minimal new cases. Also, I am happy we did not introduce the fascist measures other so called democratic countries did.

@@rulletulle710 Ridiculous response.

Lars-Åke Svensk Okej Lars-Åke, gå o rösta på sossarna igen så de kan förstöra vårt land mer

rulletulle Are you saying there were only around 6000 elderly people in a country of 10 millions? Because "literally all of our elders have died" sounds like that. And that is just plain stupid and ridiculous.

I am in Linköping and sent a request to get tested 1 week ago, because I started w symptoms without having any close contact. Still no reply. WHAT A JOKE, and all Sweeds believe it.

Bra jobbat! Kämpa på!

Inefable Theo You wrote 2 weeks ago earlier. Anyway you should request an appointment through 1177.se, it`s really easy!

"new" cases are meaningless. We really don't know if they are new or even that anyone is infected. Hospitalizations and fatalities are what we need to keep an eye on.

sweden

And many like here in the US are full fledged capitalizing on it...whether its the vaccine, selling you masks, hand sanitizer etc etc. It's disgusting.

Yes please🤗 you are very welcome to live in this lovely country. Greetings from Sweden 😀

why do people love sweden when it comes to handeling the corona virus wtf! where areu getting your info

Sceintifically speaking, no country has managed the pandemic worse than Sweden. We had the highest amount of cases per capita in the world in several periods, despite having the best conditions to manage the crisis well. During the times when we didn't have the absolute highest rate, we were usually among the top 5. Compared to our Nordic neighbors and the rest of the world we are an embarrassment. And letting people die didn't save our economy, btw.

@@jaduyare thank u

@med folket för fosterlandet Sweden have its weaknesses but also strengths. But people seems to be blind to that. I personally can't think of a safer country to be in.

​@med folket för fosterlandet Jag anser att vår regering skyddar oss. Sveriges corona taktik är en långvarig en i förhållande till alla andra Europeiska länder, som först nu använder samma/liknande taktiker. Jag antar att Sverige kommer att vara ett av de länder som klarar sig bäst i Europa emot corona. Men vi får vänta och se de närmaste månader/åren hur det ligger till då. Försök att inte sprida några sjukdomar och Godnatt för nu.🥱😴

@med folket för fosterlandet Du är ju en liten ful rasist. Som ska blanda in corona med dit hat till människor. Skäms på dig. Passar det inte så dra

Ollypa k

Stupid sheep

Sure, remote island that cut down all means to travel compared to European country with dense travel between neighbouring countries. Sure they did it better, cause nobody simply could just come there... what are people even comparing

It's typical for the media in the US that all such interviews go plain crazy in their attempts to put the blame on Trump for everything. Even the current hurricanes.

@@HansLennros-ry5iz Yes the president of the US has too much power.. Better leave it to the people who know what they're talking about.

But hes lying!! They had the herdimmunity as a strategy from the beginning. Havent you all seen the emails?

@@HansLennros-ry5iz Well, when you tell people that a virus is a "hoax", that they should inject bleach and mislead people as a president, you are completely irresponsible

Swedish metros obsessed with old man genitalia. How original...

@EnSund Dansker that is also my view on the situation. The Danish strategy are a political one, not based on previous agreements and knowledge, like they wanted to do, and what we did in Sweden. But then again, in Sweden we do have something that is forbidden in the constitution, called Ministrer ruling (Ministerstyre), and that means that the government can not go into governs like Folkhälsomyndigheten and tell them how they should work and decide in details. In Denmark there are, as I learned, more of a rule that Ministers do that. And we do follow the laws and constitution, which doesn't even allow the government to restrict our movements in Sweden, which a lock down would be.

In all countries, it is being shown that PCRs are not reliable. They use this test to report infections and illnesses when the clinical evidence is proving the big lie.

@@stellasacristan2953 we do have other tests now. But yes, the first tests was not reliable enough for individuals, but for population.

You got a source for this? I'm doubting the PCR falsd positive claim- it's a pretty robust test if you know what you're doing

Spot on.

@Rune Børsjø It was not an experiment, it was standard procedures for handling an epidemic. Countries imposing total lockdowns and swinging back and forth between restrictions, those are the ones experimenting.

This same man ran away from an interview when they asked him why they treat old people with morphine over oxygen. Are you stupid?

@@rulletulle710 This is not true.

@@rulletulle710 Rude much?

Take a test before & while in Sweden so you don’t start a second wave lol

Yeah, we all did duh? 6k lost their lives. Not coming back.

@@mgirsen that was about the same number of deaths that died 20 years ago one winter. And that is in absolute numbers. Proportional we had another winter with as high proportion died, because we are more people in the country now.

sweden has one of the largest increeses of unemplyment under this pandemic in europe. Sweden is nr 4 worst in europe when in comes to unemplyment right now. Sweden has gone from 7.6% unemployment (February 2020) to 9.2% (August 2020) the same months for the other Nordic countries: Denmark: 4.9% to 6% Norway 3.9% to 5.2% Finland: 6.8% to 7.8% England: 3.7 to 3.9% Nethertlands: 2.9 to 4.5% germany 3.6 to 4.4% Belgium 5.0 to 5.5%

here is the sorce: appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=une_rt_m&lang=en

i dont think there is will be any noticeable diffrence when it comes to mentalhealth problems or lost savings if you compare sweden with its neighbors.

Which of the 200 odd lockdown countries are you talking about? Because most of them finished with their short lockdowns months ago and as a result, they aren't labeled "the pariah state", "granny killers", ""a giant death cult" etc. Are you that ignorant that you don't realize Swedens economy suffered the worst in Scandinavia? That their main industry is export and that their economy depends on their customer countries economy? What do you think about the 150,000 long term covid sufferers in Sweden? How do you think the mental health of the country will be when you've all sobered up, left the Tegnell death cult, and face the reality of your atrocious, egocentric selfishness?

Yes, poor Denmark and Finland. Lots of lifes lost there due to lockdowns.

Agreed !

Eh how are they going to corrupt the world and make money then? Don't be stupid

He's not corrupt, so he does not qualify for the post...

@@GAguiardeCarvalho lol so true

Sensible in which way again?

Atm sweden has more covid deaths/100 citizens but I guess econmy is more important that saving "weak people". Sweden does not only have more deaths/100 than its neighbours but also has more covid cases that require intensive care. To get back to normal life after long intensive care usally takes long and hard rehab

@Matt THX "If I reject reality, then everything is fine, so stop trying to break my blissful ignorance!" -You

That is your personal fantasy football. In the real word: Deaths per million population: Sweden 579 World 120 (low is better) Even in real football (1958 Cup) Sweden 1 Brazil 4 wake up & smell the coffee

@@dane2313198 closing down society has negative consequences on public health in many other areas. For example, an increase in stress related illness, and lack of treatment for cancer patients, among many others. It's not just to benefit the economy. Pro-lockdown people tend to ignore this fact.

Jeremy Lin People with pre existing conditions will die because of their weak body. Much more have died in countries who had severe lockdowns. Life has to go on. Lockdown is not the answer.

Agree completely.....

I'd nominate him to receive Time's Person of the Year award too......

brandenburg2388 That would be the stupidest man ever to receive one. The man can hardly count and thinking is not his strong side either. He is responsible for so many unnecessary deaths simply because he has done almost nothing but standing by the wayside studying our people like we were labrats. Coming with prognoses that almost always turned out to be wrong. He doesnt seem to be in possession of common sense in the slightest and he has played russian roulette with a thing that he did not know how dangerous it was and in the beginnin* treated it like a common flu. In the beginning he didnt even believe it would spread outside of China. Not one forced quarantine have been issued, not one flight has been stopped, no fever controls have ever been done in airports,the only nation not allowed to enter the country by flight all of this time was Iran when their outbreak was at it’s worst.

@@hugoklau Sweden has done superbly well. Be thankful that Dr. Tegnell is in charge.

brandenburg2388 Luck has been on our side, that I can agree with, but no one can deny the fact that we in july had the fifth highest total covid-death toll per capita in the world, now we are number eleven. Economically our strategy haven’t been particularly successful either and we are still suffering in that area, obviously we cant compete with the 30 percent shrinkage of GDP USA currently is suffering but its been bad for a lot of people.

Joseph Somers Yes, we are world champions in rarionalizing total stupidity and lack of common sense just beacuse it comes from an authority. We are many swedes ( most them not originally from here) who feel very embarrassed about that fact.

Best for the people Hmmm.. 5880 people have died in sweden so far.. And only 280 people in norway.

@@Xennox2 Why are we comparing oranges and apples. And do people realize that this Virus will never go away(probably)?

Sweden sucks

@@ObieDoobie1 how is that comparing apples to oranges? Norway and Sweden are two very similar countries. And in this case one of them failed and the other succeeded.

You are extremely lucky... you have no idea how bad is it in other countries. :((((

I'm happy for you. Be careful I heard the elites may come for your country because of its low mortality and no masks. They want chaos everywhere unfortunately. Stay safe and sane!

Me too!

How the fck is it sensible? If people die in a pandemic, and your pandemic strategy is full of retarded, questionable bs, obviously the strategy is wrong.

@@SomeOnesSon80 you dont think people can die of other things than the pandemic?

@James I have full trust in the experts, not the government

They pass the responsibility to the people. Like in public transport, many are not socially distancing and barely no one is wearing mask except me. What the heck Sweden!

Sweden has almost the same death capita as the US... yet people say the situation there is horrendous. Just because you neglect something doesn’t make the problem dissapear. The strategy did go wrong, because neighbouring countries had much lower deaths. (Per capita)

The show aint over 'til the fat lady sings, and cherrypicked comparisons mean very little.

​@@stream2watch ¿Cherrypicked? The whole world compared Sweden and Norway in the beginning of the pandemic because those countries have very similar culture, population density, climate, socioeconomic conditions, health systems capacity, and a long etcétera. The only real difference between them from the very start was the opposite strategy they implemeted. But you can take pretty much any other neightbor of Sweden and see that they are worse off. The cherrypicking is actually comparing them to Germany or France, like i've seen certain people do.

@@nicknavarra1421 "The whole world compared..." Now if that isn't a fallacious statement in oh-so-many-ways I do not know what is. But you can rest assured that if it wasn't for the geriatric nursing system debacle in Sweden, the numbers would be close to identical. "The only real difference between them " Another fallacy. Different economies. Different exposure to clusters in Italy and Austria, different mobility of people. "The cherrypicking is actually comparing them to Germany or France, like i've seen certain people do." Are you implying they are similar? France ranks WAY higher than Germany, and nobody ranks as bad as Belgium, despite all three having had mandatory lockdowns. Nowadays Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Poland etc are very similar in 7 day moving average deaths per million, while almost all countries are following the Swedish method of no enforced lockdown. You know, it's almost like one can not make any conclusions about virology or economy by throwing some cherrypicked numbers out into the ether. It is almost like the issue is very complicated....

@@stream2watch You are joking right? You are basically telling me "if the strategy would have worked, then the strategy would have worked!". The whole propose of isolating only the risk groups was to avoid high mortality in that sectors of the population, but it failed because you cannot acomplish that if the rest of the country is operating normally and therefore have high rates of virus circulation. Everyone understood that from the start, but Sweden stick to the idea that they could do it. The exposure and mobility are also a consecuence of the policy, they are not independent differences. On the other hand, is baffling to me that you are using the last 7 days to conclude that "the other countries are very similar in death per million". Of course they are now, because the circulation of the virus is scarse now in those countries independently of their policies, but the thing is all those countries avoid the 5000+ deaths that the swedes had when the virus hit, with the same or even less economic contraction. The numbers are pretty clear, you cannot just avoid them with a "if this or that didn't happened then Sweden would have the same numbers". Yeah, comparing the situations of different places is always complicated, and epidemiology and economics are no exceptions. However, that does not mean that you cannot make any conclusions. You can if you account for the variables involved and you understand the significance of the differences in the magnitude of the variable you are analyzing. For example, if two countries speak different languages, that is no sufficient to justify a diffenrece in covid mortality, but a diffenrence in PBI per capite might. This is not my opinion or new information, it is basic social sciencie epistemology. Although i am not surprised that you don't grasp it when you clearly don't understand what statistical relevance means or even what is the difference between a fallacy and an untrue proposition.

@@nicknavarra1421 A 500 word diatribe now does not cover up for the fact that you initially made a simplified and erroneous initial statement. Do consider sinking your teeth into what has been written about the subject in serious publications . Things are not as basic as you want them to be. Your rant is just more selection bias. There are other issues related to privatisation of geriatric care that has affected. This has, for example, probably caused the death rate in Denmark compared to Norway to be double (just as an example). You could try to grok these issues if you really wish to understand the complexities here, but due to your OP I get the feeling that you are not into complexity.

I went to Amsterdam in August...for me it was a relief to spend time there. it was nearly the old normality....breathing without a mask...watching the whole faces of the other people. Here in Spain we have been mask wearing since March for essential workers as policemen, firemen, shop assitants and other public jobs who could go out to work while lockdown... and mandatory since June for all population and since July it is mandatory as soon as you go out your home. It is crazy....and now kids at school...up to 6 y.o....they have to wear mask all the time at school and social distance...they cannot play and stay together.

@@stellasacristan2953 Yes sad. :( In Neterland children upto 12 yo never had to keep distance to each other and in June that age is lifted to 18 yo. BTW: 20% of the schools for 12-18 yo made mask rules themselves. I don't think they can really force it but most children apply. :(

What are you talking about? Netherland had more than 6000 deaths. That is a lot. Here in Norway we had 266 deahts. That is a lot too - but not even close to Netherland.

@theadam22 Why shouldn't I compare them? But that is not important. The claim here is that Netherland has a low death rate. That is completely false. They have the 20th higest death rate in the world. Now, one month later, when I wrote that, they have more then 7000 deaths. 1000 deaths more. While in Norway we have 279 now. 13 more than a month ago. Maybe also Netherland should considerate wearing face masks?

They have had some positives but 5,800 deaths (87,000 infections) and a second wave still to come is hardly success. Norway and Denmark have populations half that of Sweden and their conditions in response to the outbreak have been harsher. Norway has 265 deaths(18,000 infections), Denmark has 633 deaths (20,000 infections). So which response has been the most successful? Also, strict conditions in Australia, population 26m, 816 deaths (26,000 infections), who are we closer to? Would Australians want to swap with Sweden?

@@John-gv2ug I'd still choose Sweden anytime.

@@brandenburg2388 why? Would u say the samething if someone that u know died from covid?

People here in Sweden are behaving like nothing is happening

@@dane2313198 sorry, I don't know anybody who died of Covid. 60 million people die worldwide from all causes, that's works out to 5 million people a month. So I am not at all worried of Covid. There are far more terrifying things to be scared of in this world than a flu virus.

as a swede thats the best comment ive read, not everything in sweden will work in another country.

Unfortunately not always the other way around. In june only 38% of the polulation thought that the government has handled the epidemic well.

Yeah, they trust them so much that you can't even buy cold beer in Sweden from their state run, alcohol monopoly. The reason? People will drink it immediately after purchase. More like a government that treats its people like a bunch of giant babies (and quite rightly so) unless of course, they want to run a deadly, deeply unethical "herd immunity" experiment on them.

hillbilly beer dranker I would too if I was an American

SomeOnesSon because people are babies. The truth

@hillbilly beer dranker Not a very clever comment, not even worth a comment.

Did you also kill 4000 elderly in nursinghomes, just to keep emergency hospitalbeds free?

@@hunkenpunken Just wait until the end of this pandemic. The other countries will still have people dying while in Sweden that number will barely increase.

hunkenpunken We have about 750 deaths from Covid-19 infections, this week two elderly people in a care home in my home city (Graz) died after an outbreak in the home. Staff is trying as best as possible to protect, they run very strict protocols, similar to hospitals. Due to the lockdown health care struggles now, because many surgeries due to the panic of the government got postponed and now the hospitals almost can’t keep up with the number of surgeries, cancer therapies etc. The government worked with spreading fear and mistrust, now many people are so scared, that they don’t want to leave their homes. We now have more a political than a virological crisis. So now there is the problem, that many people don’t care about the measures the government wants to re-implement. Crazy!

@Rune Børsjø Please inform yourself why so many people died in Sweden in the beginning. If somebody decides to stay at home and wear a mask I understand. Unfortunately we didn't know what kind of virus it is and we used ventilators and killed people with it. I am sure that we made other mistakes too.

Nice! Are you proud of literal dog shit as well?

Dr.Tengele in action, sacrificing 5800 people to get herd immunity (which did not even happen), giving up infection tracing, recommending to NOT use breathing masks. The only actions they (folkhälsomyndigheten) has taken is to tell people to wash their hands and keep distance. Compare to Norway with 266 deaths so far for the whole pandemic, we had that in Sweden in two days. Meanwhile, having an initial lockdown, closing schools, would have given us more time to learn about covid-19. Now people die in a much less extent with more knowledge.

Frankly Frank most Swedes I know, including myself, are ashamed as fck about all of this. You don't speak for anyone. Take your egocentric, granny killer pride and stick it up your fkn ass

@@SomeOnesSon80 "most swedes" Haha, well every swede i know is very satisfied with the strategy from FHM. The deaths at old people homes has nothing to do with the current strategy, that has to do with how we swedes handle old people in general.

@dq Smith You have no idea what you're talking about. Sweden as a nation didn't let anyone die as policy. The real reason they died was the privatization of elderly care. Profit-hunting killed them.

Also, the Swedes can do math. They know that a micrometer and millimeter (size of holes and slots on cloth masks) is 10,000 to 1000 a magnitude of scale in size larger than a nanometer. Therefore, being intelligent, they know that chickenwire cannot effectively stop sand so why bother.

Gertrude west "Chickenwire cannot stop sand." Gertrude, you are so right. What a great analogy!

I think you a free to travel here as tourist/study/work since if you are EU/commonwealth.

No, we will not. We only accept people from the Middle East. You don’t believe me? Come as a tourist and have a look. (to be read with sarcasm)

look ma! An Aussie covidiot!

@@acetylslicylsyra Work? not really..a citizen of one of commonwealth countries does not have the right to work in Sweden. He can however work in UK for six months leave and enter to work for another six months..this does not apply to the rest of EU countries. I am a citizen of Canada so I know.

@@harleysushi9163 If you want to work you need work visa of course, but c19 wont stop him from travel here. that's what i meant.

toni servillo @ same in France.......English speaking interview......how many french will have watched it ??? They complain about VCR operating instruction being in english. Good God....what a bureaucratic dump

@@Bruno-tm3xo Do you mean it is forbidden to talk about Sweden in France too? None of the Scandinavian countries has mandatory wearing of face masks.

Hans Lennros @ yes....not once media speaks about Sweden

Wow ! That does sound like there is an agenda. Personally , I feel they will mix the annual flu and cold into the story here in UK and attempt to keep us all in flux until they can re address the financial , world , recession that began in September of last year. Its a planned con trick I feel. I hate it.

Same in the Uk ….

Well, to be fair, Swedish approach may have meant more deaths initially. So maybe not a slow, steady approach. However, I strongly believe Swedish approach is definitely better for the long-term than UK approach, (or even more so, French, Spanish, Australian approach).

@@mattylamb9194 The initial deaths in Sweden were mainly old men from the Middle East and northern Africa. Their fellow country men claim they were not sufficiently informed of refraining from shaking hands and kept adamantly that cultural tradition alive.

@@HansLennros-ry5iz That is bullshit! Most dead are elderly native Swedes.

From a swede: thank you for clarifying this :)

The word “lockdown” has no meaning if you call what Sweden did lockdown. Lockdown means forcing people to stay at home and shutting down society. It means military patrolling the streets and punishing people that go outside without a permit with fines, like in France, or physically welding doors so people can’t leave like China.

Kristian Jörgensen I’d say you describe more of a curfew

how refreshing to see a country treat their citizens like adults and work together - DA and his rules are totally abhorrent. Cant wait till he moves to Beijing

@@victoriagoddard6573 he deserves everything that is coming to him. I live in the UK; I cannot believe how a liberal country like Australia, would tolerate this man. He is an utter disgrace,

Swedes have too much confidence in their own exceptionalism.

It was very mature to kill 6000 of their most vulnerable and reject all science regarding masks.

@Banankaka Ärgott 😂😂 idioter asså

@Banankaka Ärgott Well the results speak for themselves. Great job ''protecting the elderly''

Banankaka Ärgott yeah I'd love to hear the positive results that have come about from Swedens "strategy", but all I ever see is exaggerated comparisons to the very few countries with higher death rates.

I will work party time from office. :-)

I work in healthcare in Sweden, Västra Götaland and in my municipality it's getting better. 2 weeks ago we had 52 new cases that week, the week after we had 8 and this week we had 7 new cases.

Why are you returning to work now? The recommendation is still to work from home if possible and that is what we are doing in my workplace.

@@Henrik_Holst because people need interaction. This virus isn't any worse than influenza according to the newest studies. Average age of death is over 80 year old, 90 percent have had one or more diseases, death rate is well below 0,1 percent.

@@neoone75 Link to any such study? There is a huge increase in the number of excess deaths in every country during the pandemic so claiming that it's just like a normal influenza sounds like conspiracy talk to me. Yes the death rate of covid is less or around the number for the normal flu but the infection rate is so much higher which makes it deadlier in total, also it affects not only the very elderly as the flue does.

A lot of people do this because of taxes. I've been in Denmark and so I was told.

I am from Ireland and I am also considering moving to sweden

dogstar167 There are many that consider leaving Sweden because we cant stand living with the sheeple that never disagrees with anything our authorities say.

Mad Mad You’re welcome brother!

Have fun in Swedistan

They seem more immature to me. Following blindly is not taking responsibility. Its avoiding it.

Absolutely!

Proving Sweden will happily take part in mass murder

Cases in *Stockholm* per capita: 982 per 100.000 and 101 deaths per 100.000 Compared to *NRW in Germany* (place with highest numbers): 346 per 100.000 and 10 deaths per 100.000

@@MrKAmsterdam Thanks for your reply. I think that you highlight an interesting point and that is that in Europe there has been great variation in the percentage of deaths attributed to Covid and even considerable variation in some countries. It was perhaps unfair of me to make assumptions about other countries attitude to Sweden, but Sweden has taken flak for its stance by different commentators. Why there is such variation would seem to be complex. Lockdown would seem to play an insignificant role: Belgium, Spain, UK and Italy have all recorded a greater percentage of deaths attributed to Covid than Sweden and it is likely will suffer greater collateral damage in the longer term. Perhaps the most striking comparison is between Peru and Brazil. Peru had a military style lockdown and Brazil had no lockdown. Deaths per million recorded for Peru is 922 and for Brazil, 613.

@@MrKAmsterdam Sebasian, I can not understand your hatred of Sweden. Can't you turn your eyes to Belgium for a while? With higher death numbers than Sweden and increasing number of infected. They did a lockdown then you can not criticize them, right.

And that’s just as well. At least it creates an alternative policy rather than just following the herd, as it were. Note that the presentation of ‘cases’ records is strongly selective, to the extent that there is no description of what it means, the accuracy of the technique in use, or the pro rata values. Not only that, it’s being used as a justification for various actions that are, in effect, undemocratic, and for many, intolerable. It might look trite, using the term “the more you look, the more you find”, but there’s a lot in it, given the way they are operating. A cynic might observe that it's quite easy to ramp up the number of so-called cases, especially given the poor accuracy of the method in use, selective targeting etc. It doesn't prove that the real risk is getting worse - except for that caused by the reaction. Anders has covered a lot of ground in this interview, not least the overall effect on other aspects of health care, which don’t make it in the media very much. It’s worth noting that the latest death certificate numbers published by UK ONS shows that C19 ‘involvement’ totals have been falling for the last 24 weeks, while the total (for all causes) for week 35 is well above the 5 year average. It’s well known that lots of serious procedures have been deferred, and while it’s speculation as to what the outcome will be, one would think that many life expectancies will fall, unfortunately - not so much caused by the new virus itself, but by the systematic reaction to it; we’ll see.

@@joeshort9579 Why do Swedes insist to compare their country with Belgium, Spain, UK or Italy, and not with the other Nordic countries? Could it be because the former countries have higher death rates? Surely Sweden has more in common with Finland and Denmark than with Spain and Italy? Finland and Denmark had rather harsh lockdowns, and they have much lower deaths per capita than Sweden. BTW, Sweden has not only taken flak by commentators but also by the authorities of the other Nordic countries. For quite some time Norway and Denmark had closed their borders to Sweden in order to protect their own populations.

Tegnell 8 Feb: "När det gäller den här typen av resor finns det absolut ingen anledning att bekymra sig för coronaviruset. I exempelvis Alperna och Sydeuropa finns det ingen spridning över huvudtaget."

EMSL, samma här, så stolt över Sverige o Andres, jag har tur i livet att jag bor här 🙏

dilore1 Det var nog inte många som trodde den 8 feb att detta skulle bli den pandemi det blev. Det är alltid lätt att vara efterklok.

Wtf is wrong with you idiots? Do you worship dog shit too?

@@SomeOnesSon80 they do... Swedish arrogance

@Sven Larsson In Sweden the government decides but normally they follow the advice of the experts. In most of the world that is not true. Watching Trump talk about ingesting detergent makes you cringe... American media is hating Sweden because some right wing people say they want to do what we are (not that they understand what that is). Its flabbergasting to see how political media is in the US and how politicians makes crude statements in the media to hype their own choices by attacking others.

@@mattiasterfelt6759 well said

@@mattiasterfelt6759 Agree 100%

It is a capitalist based approach, they let the market the stores decide if they will follow or not, it is not imposed , it is not social democrat style, like the Democrats are doing in America , they say to wear mask and STAY AT HOME

@@boytambling8816 capitalist, market, stores ??? Looks like someone don't have a clue what we are disussing here!

Agree. The epidemiologist in Sweden DID recommend lock down of the elderly care in early march. And the goverment of sweden then put in place a mandatory ban on visits in first of april. That was the ONLY real exception to all of the volontary measures in Sweden. To bad it did not worked out as planned. The lesson is now learn (too late?), but now no new cases in elderly care either.

@@bjornakebergqvist Vården och äldreomsorgen alltså :/ Läste idag att ett stort sjukhus funderar på att varsla 300. Efter allt de gjort.. Och sen görs nedskärningar samtidigt som den kompetensen mer än någonsin behövs. Sverige borde låna in pengar och ha kvar dem. Det har vi råd med.

@@kristofferhellstrom Eller så kanske vi inte behöver ytterligare ett jobbskatteavdrag. Ett väldigt märkligt drag måste jag säga. Vad som behövs är trygga anställningar och möjligheten att må väl på arbetsplatsen inom äldreomsorgen men - har dålig koll på diskussionsläget i frågan men - jag har inte hört något alls om hur arbetssituationen för vårdpersonalen ska förbättras i framtiden. Jag får nog ta o söka efter den information... Men, ett jobbskatteavdrag mitt i den här smeten verkar vansinnigt korkat när det borde satsas på att ta fram hållbara lösningar för äldreomsorgen och dess personal.

Ivermectin, safe, cheap 100% effective. It comes from the soil. It"s natural . No one has to die , no one even has to get sick. It's a vaccine and a cure.

​@@bjornakebergqvist Tegnell 6 April: "Skyddsutrustning kommer aldrig att lösa några problem, allra minst på äldreboenden."

The smartest thing ever said during this time.

It is the sugar-saturated products It is the GMO "agriculture" It is the unimaginable obesity It is unhealthy lifestyles All the above and a lot more ills are the real causes of Americans' poor health which are causing so many deaths in the name of covid19.

That's the case globally aswell

@Stig Berge ជ្រាដដែល Belgium, France, UK etc.... Did you even listen to what he had to say btw? I do not think so.

Hahaha....that crazy killer

@@hunkenpunken interesting that all logic whould make one expect that the whole world would be relieved by the data from Sweden, but instead there is so much anger. The only explanation I can think of is that people feel the example of Sweden makes thier fear look ridiculous, so they get angry.

@Stig Berge ជ្រាដដែល I love him. I understand why he was so much on the radio. Its the only way to manage the mass fear and panic that was caused by the media.

@Stig Berge ជ្រាដដែល 5850 deads on a population of 10 million is rediculously low. Especially since avarage age of deads is 83

The Swedish approach is the only viable approach.

huge problems? LoL

"brandtproduction" has the most problem. He has spammed videos about Sweden with hate since march. 6 months.

@@Guildforsucks I think you are the one having problems, especially with people not following the herd mentality that you want every one to be apart of.

Johan Johansson @ .....well....stuff them then

brandtproduction Wow, I really hope you got payed, and not spammed videos on your free time

Gunnar Olin I think that`s one of the last things you need to worry about.

@@madeleineskovby4475 - get back under the bridge

There’s an article that tells people they need to wear a mask while having s** and it’s 100% a serious intentioned article.

Gunnar. Barnen träffar ju andra barn och ska undvika människor som är i riskgrupper. Barnen blir ju inte lika sjuka. Följer alla rekommendationerna så blir ju inte riskgrupperna smittade. Så det är inte via barnen.

Haha, fast en av de största problemen här i världen är att vi är väldigt många. Så jag tror inte det är något större problem om världen får mindre barn.

Number of dead in my home state, Queensland, population of 5.5 million = 6. Sweden = 6000. Pretty sure those numbers speak pretty loudly

SomeOnesSon Very true. But of course virus load is not evenly distributed. It’s not spread evenly out from the start across populations. That’s why you can’t compare directly.

@@SomeOnesSon80 again, the cherry picking... new jersey has 180deaths/100k, but hawaii only 6/100k - so is the US strategy a success or failure?

It also has a lot to do with demographics and how densely populated an area is, how the infrastructure is etc. Stockholm is very densely populated in many areas and parts of the immigrant population seem to have been hit the hardest. Perhaps be cause of a different way of living (large families in small living areas and grandparents living among younger people). Also, its wrong when some critics start comparing the number of deaths in Sweden to for neighbouring countries Norway, Denmark and Finland. These nations ar totally different and not comparable to Sweden. Except for Copenhagen perhaps and they were hit much harder than the Swedish neighbour Malmo. Sweden, or rather Stockholm, is better compared with some French, Belgian och British cities, where Covid-19 also hit hard.

@@Jonsson474 Right. It's a complex matter and we laymen just don't have the full picture, just as people with little knowledge of Sweden won't be able to see the context in which decisions are being made, why they might be valid in Sweden but not elsewhere, or why the strategy may be viewed as working parallell to a high death toll in elder care centres. 🤷‍♂️ All we know, is that suppression is not viable.

It seems that way Joe and I hope it stays like that. But I wonder if Gladys will make a knee jerk reaction when we have cluster outbreaks. (Because we certainly will). She nearly did a few weeks ago and fortunately retracted it before it started. But I doubt she would have retracted it if a couple more ‘hotspots’ cropped up at the crucial time. Sweden had/has clusters but they hold their cool and let the outbreaks subside. I fear there are many in NSW who seem to think VIC’s lockdowns are appropriate. Our main stream media is the biggest contender. They are so biased towards the lockdown narrative and incite panic. Which seems to be a pattern worldwide. Somehow Sweden seems to be the only Western country to have sidestepped that media/political alliance.

@@zooksix2979 Thanks Zook. I suppose there are a few cooler heads in our government , some good people too.

Joe Chiato @.....beg to differ.....look at Victoria where the police can enter your home at will and cuff you like this mother ....pregnant on top of it.....who forwarded a protesting tweet.

Zook six most of Swedish media is quite unbiased and neutral when it comes to news reporting, at least compared to many your other counties. There are however exceptions even in Sweden but they usually stick out in other areas as well.

@@Bruno-tm3xo Each state in Australia has it's own government. Melbourne is in the state of Victoria. I live in Sydney in the state of NSW.

Tegnell isn´t a politician though, he´s a epidemiologist.

@@Asa...S Not to quibble, but to be in his position you have to have some political smarts just to get to that level and also to present things publicly in a way that will not derail your efforts. He would be the logical person to blame and accept blame for errors in the response - which he did.

@dq Smith Nice trolling, having fun in your lockdown?

Because there were more death cases per capita than in Norway, Denmark and Finland?

Ever heard of the other Nordic countries, Taiwan, New Zeeland, South Korea, Japan?

I assume these right-wingers hate Japan, Korea, China etc because right-wingers obsessed with eugenics

What a decent, honest, and dignified being!

lol no, just the impersonification of Swedish arrogance

It does not mean you should ignore the model either.

It is the right approach. It's based on science and respect

According to the latest statistics from june, overall confidence in the Swedish government is down from 56 to 45%. In may, 50% thought the government had handled the epidemic well, in june it was 38%.

@@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo - I bet the figures are higher than that now though

You must also take into consideration how Sweden was treated in the media of mainstream countries. Full scaremongering and critic and not even a slightest suggestion of them coming out of it without catastrophy. For me the main thing is respect to the value systems of their society. No forcing, all voluntary and that makes them respecting even their state apparatus. It is not possible to make the same rules for all of Europe. What works in Sweden will not work in Spain.

EDITS yes we do. However it’s completely useless. Simple demonstration: we all got the yearly seasonal flu last month from the monsoon despite wearing masks all day long for covid.... if it were efficient for a covid, we would have been spared from that seasonal virus of monsoon flu as well wouldn’t we ?

Because Sweden lost almost 6k lives to covid-19. Compare that to other nordic countries and it becomes very clear that Sweden failed miserably. It's a disaster of epic proportions.

Because Sweden is not a success story, they lost many more lives than neighbouring countries. Too easy to declare victory when comparing Sweden with much more densely populated countries

@@almah9627 So people with heart diseases etc didnt exist in the other nordic countries? That's why they had so few deaths compared to sweden? Come on... I also dont get how so many people like you can be so ice cold. Is a life less valuable just because they have heart disease? Don't they deserve to live out their years just the same as you and I? To me it's shocking how people think like this.

Ok...this is what happened here. First Tegnell and Johan Carlsson (chief) said "the virus is not coming to Sweden" Next they didnt stop the flights from Italy that heavily spread the virus in Sweden. Its been like this the whole year..Tegnell constantly guessing and changing his info to the people. The herdimmunity is also confirmed by emails from Tegnell to other collesgues. Like having the schools open, just to spread the virus more effective. We swedes with brains are sooo fed up with this liar. Ohhh...did i forget to mention that the elderly in nursinghomes that got sick in covid, was not given any food, medication or anything, just morphine and left to die. So that the hospitals would have space for covid emergency patients. THATS a huge scandal here ! 4000 elderly killed.

@@immersionHEHE this "Alma" is a proof of that desinformation from the swedish state works on people with low "self thinking"

BUT citizens have a sense of duty.

At what exactly?

@@SomeOnesSon80 they have avoided useless experiment with lockdowns.

Yuri Serebriany oh right, so the 200 odd countries that didn't murder their grandparents in a herd immunity experiment got it wrong then? Well, I guess if you're an egocentric piece of fkn trash, then it was a great success!

sebbster and the cost of a short lockdown would have been: thousands of lives saved, a better economy, happier people, a reputation that isn't worthy of disgraceful headlines worldwide each and every day

@@SomeOnesSon80 dog din farmor i covid-19 eller varför är du så rabiat?

I'm a big supporter of Tegnell and I think this interview was good.

Absolutely. It even starts with him saying, that they have a guest. That´s some kinda funny, because the interviewer is a guest in Sweden, and not the other way around...

He's interviewing a mass murderer, and has this thing called ''morality''.

I was thinking the same thing!

Bjoern Eilen Sweden doesn't own his RU-vid show you fkn dimwit

Which country has the most pompous, deluded, narcissistic morons who are happy to kill their own grandparents because they lack the discipline and compassion to be anything else but the worlds biggest failure during a pandemic?

@@MrKAmsterdam What is the problem ? There are many densely populated areas around the world with high numbers. It does mean ithe outcome planned !

​@@MrKAmsterdam Seems like you have a lot of hatred in you, how are you? Are you stressed by everything that has to do with COVID-19. That many have died in Sweden is not mainly the tactic, in such cases parts would not have low mortality as Gotland where the number of reported deaths with covid-19 infection is 10 deaths per 100,000 and it is lower than in Germany. Sweden counts deaths with COVID-19 infection, so if you die of cancer but have had COVID-19, you are counted as a COVID-19 death. Sweden has failed to protect the elderly in old people's homes, homes where many normaly die within a month and most die within a year because only the sickest elderly end up there. It is the manager of these homes who is to protect the elderly and it has not worked as the law that exists imposes them.

@@henrikl4244 Many die within a year after being commited to a care home for the elderly? You have really no clue. Do you have any relative in a Swedish care home? Most people live there for many years. They are just not capable any longer to manage their own household. A Swedish care home has no facilities or specialised personal to care for severely sick people. Hospitals and palliative care homes take care of those patients instead. And 25% of the COVID-deaths occured within home service (hemtjänst), do these people normally die within a year too? Get real!

It wasnt necessary, because all the weak ones already died.

They've done nothing. I work in elderly care, in private and public homes. I've been wearing a mask since March, and have so far only seen 3 other workers in my entire city wearing a mask just one time each. People here are pathetic fkn pigs.

@@SomeOnesSon80 so others in care don't wear them in elderly homes? And did they check ventilation systems in elderly homes? E. g. for recirculation of the virus.

@@SimonAZ The elder care in sweden is one of the few institutions that is run according to the 'american' model, that is, by profit by private companies. These companies are not all that interested in taking measures that will decrease their profits. For years the elder care has been critizised but nothing is being done. We will see how it turns out in the next couple of years. Nothing happends quickly here at any rate.

Simon Warner haha, omg, as if they would do anything that requires actual work. They simply banned visitors. We had an outbreak here as late as July in an elderly home. It's a fkn shambles.

We didn't give a shit in ww2 though.. Other countries actually tried to fight the nazis. Not sure that's something to be proud of. But we did save our economy which is good ofcourse.

@@erik.... Cause Sweden declaring war on Germany in 1940 would have been a great idea?

You liked that the swedish gov. were helping the nazis?

@@hunkenpunken Sure beats helping the Russians invade Finland. Besides, steel to Germany, ball bearings to the UK, it all evens out in the end. Especially in the bank balance.

Because there were more death cases per capita than in Norway, Denmark and Finland?

@@MrKAmsterdam Its a long term strategy. The deaths will flatten out as time goes on whime it will stay the same in other countries. You cant prevent everyone from getting sick forever.

@@MrKAmsterdam And Belgium have 7,6 times higher death per 1M then Germany. Germany have twice as many death then Poland per 1M. Australia have now 16,8 more death per 1M then New Zealand.

Wish I was in Norway and not Sweden.

Thank you for that! I wish all human had what we have here in Sweden.