This would be my kind of Sith. "Oh, you've joined the jedi? Well I'll just bring your family out of poverty and into luxury. Of course, they're technically your enemies now. Doesn't that just gnaw at the back of your mind? Of course, the offer also extends to you. Why not defect and reunite with your family? They'd love to see you again. We all would."
this is the type of sith i was always was but this usually fits the role of a sith inquisitor/sorcerer as usually they are the ones that yern for knowledge and long term planning, warriors have always been as their name implies. grunts of an army, but not always of course if you look at the EU lore rather than the cannon one. though imo the inquisitors being the master planners always feels right to me.
One of the very, very few reasonable Jedi in the Warrior's storyline. I was going for a pure lightside playthrough and every. Single. Jedi wouldn't hear a word of peace and leapt to attack me, bringing their dedication to the code into question.
No kidding. I did full light Inquisitor, and getting to Alderaan, making that impassioned speech about wanting to be a genuine force for change in the Empire, only for the Jedi to turn around and say 'you're lying, I convinced everyone you're lying and now you die' just destroyed my immersion to that point. I get why it had to be that way, but it still just hurt to hit such a blatant brick wall.
@@Jokie155 Really quite insulting, to be Light level 5 and have a Jedi master say that the Dark Side surrounded me and then attack, leading his Padawan and troops to their deaths.
@@Jokie155 I think it just shows that Jedis are massive hypocrites and a testament to the flaws of both phylosophies. Siths have made it hard to trust them, a Sith can give you a smile and everything you want but for all intents and purposes, he may be hiding a knife behind his back as he shakes your hand. Whereas the Jedis are extremely self-righteous and believe themselves to be right about everything and their wisdom can't be questionned.
Baras: Their screams of pain will echo through the universe and I will love it!!! 😈 Sith: Actually I promised them riches and a fruitful life under Imperial rule. Baras: Oh ummm..... that's cool.... I guess whatever. 😥
@@johnstorm9314 that's why I love this game, just because you may have said something doesn't mean you can't change your mind. I just wish they'd introduce a reset for the class story instead of having you make another character to play through it again.
The genius of a peaceful Sith is terrifying. By sparing Master Yonlach and Jaesa’s parents, the Sith Warrior doesn’t allow Jaesa to let go of her attachments to them. Killing them would have brought Jaesa closer to the light. Letting them live will only bring Jaesa closer to the dark side of the Force. Jaesa’s attachment to the three most important people in her life will fuel her passion and turn her away from the light. Nothing is scarier than a Sith that uses logic and reasoning to conquer the galaxy.
This whole paragraph is total nonsense btw and you know it. The pain emotional, spiritual and physical that the death of her loved ones causes AT THE SAME TIME is what actually breaks her. She gets not just pulled to the dark side, she gets thrown in it and she drawns in it because she never used emotions much before. You should use logic way and emotional intelligence even more. Your way is better at making her a more stable follower since DS Jaesa is a wreck BUT efficiency in bringing her to the dark side? Killing them is way better.
What will make a Jedi (who actually knew her family) suffer more? Knowing her parents died in extreme pain slowly and at the delight of a Sith Lord? Or having them willingly and of their own free will to turn against her and actively support the enemy while living happy fruitful lives, knowing that if she encountered them in battle she would probably have to kill them. Two very different kinds of suffering but both oh so sweet in execution
The latter would most likely be more devastating, for Sith are known to cause suffering, however it is highly unexpected of them to not only spare those who're emotionally connected to the target but also let them live in luxuary.
@@yokgor4675 A good Sith worth his salt chooses the latter. We often forget that the Sith are manipulators. (Mostly because most of the Sith are cartoon villan levels of evil)
Light-side Sith Warrior story was by far my favorite in the game. Can't stand the pointlessly aggressive and violent options. One of the more memorable ones for me is when you have the choice of helping the Alderaan troops defend some location to gain the commander's trust rather than just killing people. Their bewilderment that a Sith Lord is fighting for them was hilarious. The way I see it, showing these enemies of the Empire that I, a relatively high-ranking individual and a Sith, am a very kind person and am willing to help those in need unlike the overly bureaucratic Republic that can never get anything done and their Jedi sit on their asses while things need doing. Convert with kindness, not with fear, that way we gain -loyal- allies rather than ones that will look for any way to escape or sabotage the Empire.
This is the way of the Sith that Ajunta Pall had envisioned before his passing but unfortunately the majority (98%) would become walking murder machines with the intellect of barbarians that only care for themselves and lead to their civilization crashing down multiple times. In KOTOR he explicitly expresses his disappointment in the current state of the Sith Order he had long ago founded. Now sure, we do get to redeem him into accepting the light and becoming one with the Force, but the fact remains that the progenitor of your Order was disgusted in what they've become. Really sad actually 😔
I think Sith Inquisitor's light side is even better than Warrior, it's because not only you do morally good things but also actually explore the light side of the force as evident in the last chapter of the class story line where you do a Force technique that only a Jedi can do, even though you are clearly using the dark side of the force in battle, it shows how a grey force user should be, morally good but not fear of the dark side and let it overcome you, balanced of both the dark and the light
Kottery I went dark side with my Imperial Agent all the way until the very final chapter where you confront Hunter. Went light side and killed the dudes coming for the intelligence. It’s been years since I’ve played it but I still remember how damn good it was. And Bounty Hunter light side is just incredible. Especially the finale.
Having Jaesa Willsaams' parents alive will inevitably help both parties in the long run when we manage to recruit Jaesa to our side, Emotions and Attachments are a veritable weakness to a Jedi, but conversely they are a strength for a Sith; but neither belief is mutually-exclusive to either Order. Convincing Jaesa to our side through our own conviction to the Light will make it that much easier for Jaesa to want to follow us, and by-extension whenever she is given reprieve from duty and granted shore-leave; she could easily visit Dromund Kaas in order to spend time with her family and rekindle her emotional connections with them, and by-convenience, ease the sorrow and worry in their hearts over any fears they might have had for going with us by meeting with their child safe and sound once again. I love reunions.
Actually, emotional attachment is considered a weakness for both Jedi and Sith. When a person is made to choose between family/friends/partners and ambition, the Sith Code always demands you put your ambitions first. Emotional connection and vulnerability are a weakness that others may exploit. For example, what if someone decided to take Darkside Jaesa's family hostage? If she remains attached to her family, that gives her enemies a source of leverage over her.
I spared them not because I wanted to, but because my Juggernaut was a master manipulator. He realized that if he let Jaesa's parents live, and have a high degree of control over them, then her loyalty to him would be absolute. He knew that if it came down to choosing between a Master that was obviously manipulating her for his own goals, and her own family, she would choose the latter. The game is much more fun when you're playing as an evil character, with a few bits of light side here and there. It makes me feel as though I am much smarter than all my colleagues, who just butcher everyone, while I make important allies and connections wherever I go.
One thing that struck me about this choice is that later in the story they are right there in Bara's grasp, something that could be used against Jaesa, and by extension you, when the two of you come to blows. It's a shame that it was never explored as such but I can understand why.
Udayveer Bhadauria Ah, but you didnt foresee that leaving them alive is a liability. For as you believe that having control and possession of them would force and help manipulate Jaesa into absolute loyalty, whats to stop Darth Baras from taking them from under you and have Jaesa betray you when you least expect it? Especially with Quinn being a turncoat and a spy for Baras. Your plan was flawed, you should not leave loose ends.
Re watched the video to see what you meant, don't know how I missed that, but for some reason it really made me laugh. I think he ran up to the sith warrior to confront him then as he got close quickly realized he made a very bad decision, but was too late to turn around and run :)
Kreia would be proud. You got yourself in a position of power without violance and manipulating the "enemy" to join your cause. The jedi made a mistake sticking to his code by not seeing that "peaceful" in this case means apathetic, by doing nothing he gained you an absolute win.
"Not only will I not allow the Willsaams to do this" Instantly made me think he was gonna mind trick them like the Jedi do to all who disagree with them
If i was Sith I have quote from somewhere I cant remember that would follow " What greater weapon is there then turning your enemies army against them or allies".
There is some satisfaction being a “good” sith. Being almost that grey area. Are you being merciful and caring. Or are you focused only on the objective but choosing trick those around you into thinking you have decent intentions making them weak to being used as pawns.
I like the light side sith warrior. Siths draw strenght from strong emotions, anger, hate, love, joy, etc. To be able to use these emotions without letting yourself be a puppet to them, to me, embodies what a Sith should be.
Hunting the Padawan was really My favorite part of the sith Warrior quest, a brutal force in battle and capable of such manipulations that would make kreia proud
Sith Warrior: I kill anything that gets in my way Literally 2 seconds later Sith Warrior: This can be peaceful Jedi XD I love watching this videos and seeing how people deal with the different situations. Personally, I like to be loyal to my followers for the most part. My enemies are a different story. It all depends on how much they annoy me, what they can do for me, or what they're intentions are.
That's the way to be a true Dark Lord; a man of power, intelligence, and honour. You taunt your enemy by giving their family the life they never could never provide them, causing them to turn their back on their ideals which makes the enemy feel betrayed. Only a Barbarian kills without thinking. The Dark Side may be about the quick and easy path compared to the Light, but the strongest of Sith are the ones who are smart.
I did all the rational choices as a Sith Warrior and when I looked at my light side dark side points they were almost perfectly balanced with a 14,500 light and 16,000 dark.
Ah SWTOR the one MMO I can say for certain I played solely for the story sadly I played it while I was in college and had to give it up not too long after beating a Light-sided Jedi Knight, Guardian, playthrough. I was part of a team at one point and we did have a little tourney that I took 3rd in so that was something.
Though I didn't go 100% light for my sith warrior campaign, (mainly killed/executed if they either wish to fight, pursue or a convicted criminal) I like how the sith warrior can take a path that is not entirely filled with blood.
The funny thing about this part was, I tried to be nice to the parents and when I finally convinced them that I wasn't planning to kill them. The Jedi cockblocked me and I just killed the parents on the spot.
i think we need another version of this mmo with updates like better combat etc. i think an action combat system would be far better ( that is a little bias for me since i play BDO and BnS) Also more care to the models the Togruta got an injustice but the hands the label is in now i doubt we'll get any of this. I mean EA screwed over an open world star wars. Not to mention the heat star wars is getting as well.
Dauragon Yae Otsutsuki like difference in fighting stances like star killer or asokah. I've been playing for 5 years n I've always wanted plo koon or kit fisto's race and what we got was a fucking cathar. I want my kel-dor!!!
Gambit Godsey man I wouldn't want Kel Dor after how they did Togruta. We didn't get a complexion slider, our montrals/lekku don't even match the in game Togruta ( I want the long ones or a choice to pick between short, mid, long). our dark side corruption is wack. I feel like they may do an injustice to Kel Dor.
Better accept it, they will not add any new races or classes, or anything good in general. they only care about releasing Cartel packs and placing expensive sets and items on the Market. This game is over.
I’ve heard of SWTOR, and the more cutscenes I see the more I want to play it. But when I see that HUD... I’m not a fan of complexity and that makes me think I need a pilot license to navigate.
You can customise your HUD. Mine doesn't have those 3x4 grids on each side, or the long ass column on the left. Those tracked missions on the top right can be minimised if you want to.
I have 2 Sith characters right now, a Unstoppable Juggernaut that makes all the darkside options, then my Inquisitor who makes all of the "Smart" decisions, like this one here.
The lightside Sith Warrior is so much better than the darkside Sith Warrior. The DS Warrior is a cliche villain. A savage brute, a psychopath corrupted by the darkside and blinded by rage, using sheer simpleminded brutality and intimidation to advance on. Nothing more than an irrational beast. The LS Warrior, by comparison, is cunning, intelligent, manipulative, and an incredibly complex antihero. Embracing and wielding the Darkside without allowing himself to be corrupted by it, and forcing his Jedi enemies to forsake their code by angering them through ideological debate, before cutting them down calmly, and reluctantly, while they are blinded by a confused rage. LS Jaesa is so much more pleasant as an apprentice too, like a child who is seeing the world for the first time, broadening her philosophical horizon and growing gradually more self-confident, while DS Jaesa is an annoying, one dimensional bloodthirsty savage (much like the DS Warrior) who is personally unbearable.
