Loved to be part of this, thank you so much Ziv !! This is such a good idea and lovely idea for a series, also for myself to try and break down the workflow, rather than just doing things without thinking about them!
Hi Jouni! Thanks for doing this with Mr Loopop! I know I told you on Ranzee's shows that I love what you do and it's great to hear in even more detail about your creative processes and production methods! Great stuff!
Burg and Loopop....a perfect collaboration. Inspiring, educational, and much needed. Burg can do more with a Korg Volca than most people can with a Moog One. Incredible musician and sound theorist.
This is ridiculously high-yield info-dense stuff. I’ve had questions about every single one of these topics. EXTREMELY educational and to-the-point, as usual from Loopop!!
Burg's Patreon is full of this same great stuff as well. He is very active and communicative. He collaborates about his album and song production with the community.
if i had all that equipment i would never make music i make demos on a roland mc303 then i can use midi to do anything ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cLXOuVoS9ag.html it's better to programme one unit and then have the choice to make something a bigger production.
This type of content is deeply needed. Wish I had this a year ago when I finally had more gear than just a Minilogue. Much love and buttery-smooth triangle waves!
highly relevant, two things I always do, label up your PSU's and wall warts at both ends (helps a lot) also label the midi channel number on the front of the device, saves digging into the device settings to find out what you numbered it.I also use a very long USB extension cable so I can connect my Mac/DAW to a hub which is typicall connected to my main MPC One Sequencer, works a treat and is very flexible. for mixing I use X32 Rack and X-Air 18 to save space and enable loads of I/O options
I keep a master reference for MIDI channel mappings. Written on paper (in pencil, obviously) and always close by. This paper lists, for every instrument, the channel(s) on my (audio) patch bay, the physical and virtual channels on my MIDI router, and the MIDI channel of the device. So many numbers needed to properly route each instrument!
Same here on the xr18: wanted a small rack mixer that doubles as an audio interface (so it stand-alone until I power up my PC/DAW and then everything flows to the right channels). Perfect mixer for me (for this money). Racks are the best when you don't have room for a desk and still want to fit loads of gear in your bedroom 🙂
That's exactly what I was looking for and with a perfect timing, thanks Loopop (and BURG)! You should definitely continue this video series. A suggestion for future episodes: smaller/live setups (Ela Minus?).
The midi-thru conversation in this video makes me so grateful to have a retrokits RK-006. Seriously, so much power with programmable routing for clock or midi-cc from 2 midi in plus USB in as host or slave, out to 10 midi out in such a tiny footprint is huge for setups like this.
Thank you so much for this series. I am just about to start rebuilding my studio after loosing everything in the Aus 2019/2020 bushfires. To be able to listen to other musicians talking about their setups is invaluable and food for thought. Tips#1 has been a fantastic insight and a very similar to the setup that I am about to embark on. thanks again you offer a wonderfull channel full of really valuable information. kind regards Mick.
What a joy to hear Jouni speak about his music and production... And delivered Loopop style in an informative and focused manner. Two of my go to channels for info and tips... And have loved 'Burgs' music for years now. Thanks guys and Ziv... Great idea for a series, keep them coming! Thanks both.
This format is definitely welcomed! I’ve been playing live for years and still don’t feel like I have my routing perfect. I’m never happy. Burg is fantastic. Get onboard the spaceship.
One of the best parts of this is satisfying the obsessive "what's in the studio?" curiosity. Always fun to see ie some Volcas sharing desk space with an Alpha Base and multiple Elektron boxes.
I felt like I was in a masterclass just soaking it all in like a sponge. Thanks for taking the time to ACTUALLY go into detail about this topic instead of just showing off your gear. which is very impressive.
Once I bit the bullet and installed server racks, rackmount power supplies, patch bays, and Midi patchbays(mioXLs), it changed my life. Almost as much as this channel
Haha, was looking into the akai force after this video to see how it‘s handling it (sidechain and compression). Getting my first compressor (the tiny dbx go rack) was some huge quality increase to my music. Now i am looking into boss rlc-10s and fmr rnc‘s to handle my minitaur and peak (I even ended up with „the pill“ fx pedals to handle hardware sidechaining of external sounds on a small desktop realestate). (After checking CV, controlled „fake sidechaining on them.) So i would also like a video of that topic!
Check out the SUONOBUONO nabc (not another boring compressor) hardware compressor. Completely changed my hardware setup for the better. Basically it’s a side chain compressor that you can trigger using midi notes or in the more traditional way with an audio signal such as a kick. Because you can trigger it with midi you can really get creative with it. Plus it’s really small and doesn’t require complicated audio routing.
There is so much wisdom and valuable advice packed into these brief 30 minutes. Thank you BURG and loopop! One thing I am surprised by is the lack of acoustic dampening in his studio. Maybe it's because he uses headphones more than his monitors.
Thanks a lot!! and on room tuning, as mentioned on another comment. This is a new space still progressing in the build up and structure of the room. Once i have all the shelves and camera mounts in place proper treatment is next. I am for now doing most of my critical mixing work in headphones. cheers and thanks ! :)
Brilliant questions, brilliant responses, brilliant feature, agree with the majority of these comments, you're on a winner Loopop, better get that contact list out.
New space coming along quite nice. Props to you man! Room treatment next? would love to hear another update on what you're using. Thumbs up from California!
Big thanks Christoph!! :) yes, room tuning is on the agenda soon, i have almost finished all the shelves and the camera mounts placements.. I have started thinking about how to best fix the treatments. Its sort of a puzzle excercise, so still scratching my head on this, haha :D
Looking for this comment :) The room sound was the first thing I noticed especially after Loopop’s clean/ dry vocal narration, excellent setup otherwise. Also from Cali!
Really enjoyed this. I love listening Burg's stuff so this was a really good insight into how he does things. It's a great watch and provides food for thought for anyone with a small expanding studio setup like myself. I found the bit about recording especially interesting as I haven't got to that stage yet but have recently been thinking how to go about it. Also, his cable system looks better organised than mine - I'm only using 7 pieces of kit and it's utter chaos! I probably need to get that under control.
Gold!! I started watching Burg’s videos when I was learning about hardware synths, as a pedal nerd I loved his approach and use of them. Thank you for this
Excellent! All relevant questions and problems that I battle with. I like BURG (Jouni) jams/tracks; and the fact that he uses high-end and volca. Thankyou.
I totally agree with Burg's approach of recording a jam as a template and then proceeding by re-recording track-by-track. That workflow seems to fit me as well. Thanks for all the tips, very helpful.
this was really entertaining and enlightening, and in many aspects validation of the work I'm doing myself pursuing the perfect jam/production setup. It was very well organized by topics as usual, and Burg was very clear explaining the details. Many thanks for this to Burg and Loopop. I just love being an audionerd.
This video/interview was very helpful for me, especially because I'm just now starting to build my studio with euroracks, synths, drum machines and various other instruments! Also may I add that BURG's studio looks like a spaceship!
Not sure if someone else has said this, but the way guitarists get over the noise problem on pedals is to use an isolated power source. Mine for example as 12 isolated outputs from one plug. This is very different to using a Daisy Chain.
This is a very good point. A little bit bit more expensive, however a proper isolated power source would be a better choice from a noise perspective. Its all about the density i think, eg when does the separate PSU get more expensive than the multiple one. :) cheers
Very interesting. I think workflow is about creativity. There are many processes to making electronic music but not all of them make it into the finished recording. Workflow, to me, is about finding the route to this recording that removes barriers, shortens paths and strengthens knowledge.
This guest idea was very nice, Burg's music, for me, it's always been a notch above the others "improvisers", listening how his creative process works was highly refreshing. Keep this format running!
Loved this. The perspective on rehearsing and jamming and recording a stereo pair prior to building a multitrack recording really resonated with me, since I’ve felt caught between these two things for the last year or so. I will now try to make more of the rehearsal and jamming and push the multitracking to a discrete, later step.
So happy to hear this! :) it is a very good, albeit a bit more tedious workflow. The end result imho has at least for me increased a couple of notches in quality, cheers and thanks!
really great to get a deep dive into Burg's set up and approach. some things I already do which helps validate and some new things to try and consider is really helpful. looking forward to more in this series. thanks!
Some additional tips from someone with a big setup: -Ergonomics: When you get a certain amt of gear, not all of it can be in the most convenient place. Some might require you to reach a bit or maybe even be in a spot where its hard to read the labels. So I like to have the gear that has more programming "depth" be the most accessible. For example stuff with menu diving, built in sequencers, or heavy sound design capabilities. Synths that are quicker to dial in like small knob-per function modules or FX pedals can be a little farther away because I can likely dial them in pretty quickly and not need to read any screens. Also, when it comes to putting tape on gear and cables, make sure you get a tape that doesnt leave a residue. Sometimes it will look like it doesnt, but once stuff starts getting warm that can change. All my MIDI cables have a gross residue on them now because of this and its really hard to get off.
I have wondered how to best set up midi, and my best take-away was his mention of a "thru box", and it looks like he's using a "Kenton 5Thru". Kenton gear is highly regarded, so I looked at various websites, and found the best deal on Reverb. Soon, I will be setting up my 1st routing of multiple midi devices. As for setting up my synths, I use a 2 tier Ultimate Support stand, an older 3 tier steel stand, a four foot tall rack cabinet I built, and wooden shelves I built. For portable use, I use 2 collapsible 2 tier columnar stands, several X-stands & a Behringer 10 channel mixer. I recently purchased a Presonus 16 channel hybrid mixer for using in a DAW plus, I use 2 Kawai MX8SR mixers which have XLR outputs. Thanks for posting, and yes, please continue in this vein!
There are so many gears, and the combination of them are endless. Thanks Burg for sharing your ideas and tips PS: I think it is the first time I watch an entire half hour video without skipping to another video :)
Burg has more synths than my local Guitar center and also I'm a bit disappointed because when the video shows a still image before you play it it's Burg and I thought that was Loopop! LOL I couldn't wrap my head around Loopop looking like that after listening to his videos so long.
I’ll never regret that i have synths as a hobby. So many wise , talented, educated people in the community. Some many good advices and ideas. Thank you! @loopop , please invite Protovolt , he is synth lord ;)
I have been following Burg (Jouni as i now knows) for about 5 years and wanting a video like this for a long time. GREAT!!! my best wishes for you and the great Loopop for make this a reality!!
Very appreciate this approach. Workflow and inter connectivity between hardware and DAW, audio and midi, live or recorded/sequenced is the holly graal quest... so any sharing experience is very welcome to help everyone to assemble his puzzle (mine is including a multitrack QSC 30 channels where i connect System8, Mini Nova, Typhon, TB3, TR8S, MX1, Akai Force, Zoia, Circuit MonoStation, Boss RC505) on one side, Computer and midi keyboards other side, Midi Hub Mio XL in the middle..., a miracle to see all working together Thank you again Loopop
I don't have quite as much gear as Burg but his info sure helps me if I run into a revision to my setup. I have a mix of hardware synths and VST's on a MAC so this was very helpful.
This is such a useful topic! Love that you're evolving the Loopop universe with content like this. I would appreciate more content like this, as you're really breaking the usual format of synth reviews and actually contextualising them into every day use :) Good job!
Good stuff. Building a space for myself in a barn. Will be filled with my synths and expanded continuously. I already have a lot of infrastructure figured out, but this gave me a bunch of ideas for how to run electricity and patch panels.
I really enjoyed this video and found it useful to hear a specific artist’s view on setting up the studio all the way to finishing a track. I love your standard videos but I think this adds a whole new dimension and would welcome more of these. Because each artist has very different workflows, I think it’s really awesome to get a perspective that is different than what you’re used to especially when you’re stuck in a rut.
every December I re- vamp my small studio integrating the gear I've acquired through the year and new upgrades. During this process I play BURGS videos in the background for motivation. I come in after work today and before I can get to ollilaboratories , I see this video in the feed.......INSTANT click!! Thank you for this video and I welcome more like it!
Great episode. I would add that labeling both ends of each cable (including power supplies) saves a lot of grief. I also place a white marker at the "MIDI emitting" end of each 5-pin cable to avoid those puzzling In-to-In and Out-to-Out problems.
Great idea for a video. I’ve faced all these questions for a long time - every time the studio gets a re-do or thinking about the best way to work. Every question was spot on. Thank you both.
Oh! I love Burg and follow his development since many years already. I love to listen to his tracks while driving the car :) He has such a great feeling for sound and the arrangements and his live setup is so inspiring. Thanks for doing this interview with him. The only thing I didn't like at the start of this video is having sound while he was talking. Makes it harder to focus on what he says. Great work here.
I think having a propper mix in a live studio situation and recording everything in stereo would be the holy grail. When mastering afterwards is the only step before releasing, electronic music production without a pc would be so quick. I think the bluebox mixer is a huge step in that direction.
@@seriooous i mean that is just a question of your confidence in your work, jam quality. if you record all channels in DAW it does not mean you have to fiddle it afterwards. just cut and export :).. but it is hard to do that obv.
I really love this direction. There's always something to learn from seeing another person's workflow. Confession time: All of your videos are absolutely incredible, but I sometimes actively avoid watching them because I really don't need extra temptation to buy more shiny gear.
I went in the opposite direction. I made a list of things I want in a mixer. Then I found a mixer that fit those. This is how I ended up with an SSL X-Desk and waited 2 years to pounce on an SSL X-Panda. So I have a compact 24 input mixer with 16 tracks of returns from the DAW. In my setup I can record all 24 inputs through the SSL, and with a push of a couple buttons can play back what I've recorded while overdubbing new synths or other instruments. I did the masking tape thing for years. Then I discovered magnetic channel labels. They are much more legible. All my ins and outs are on 8 channel snakes, which are effectively double shielded. Audio cables are kept off the floor by velcro, hooks and such. Power on the floor along with MIDI etc. As far as MIDI through boxes you can buy a DIY one from several places. I use 2 1x5 MIDI thru boxes to hit all my synths. There are actually a couple chains in this setup. So might be time for another Thru box.
Yes, please more of these. It's fantastic to see and learn all this. There's so much to digest as well. I'd love to see a couple of synth film composers, synthwave artists and especially dark synth artists.
Wow what a great vid...at first I struggled just to connect two devices in the early days now I have four devices connected and a foot pedal.. Amazing setup and info.. Thank you very much for haveing ollilaboratories on your channel I think he is a magician of electronic music making after viewing his channel...
I particularly like his view eq. It's important to find the place for each instrument in the mix, as a seasoned traditional band will find where they belong in the mix and the bass and the drummer will find the "pocket" so they don't cancel each other out but instead make one another more pronounced, the synths need the composer's guidance to find that space in the mix. his techniques in that regard were great. I also loved what he said about recording then rerecording, that's not a technique I really considered.
That was really useful ho hear some tips and tricks from the one, who has s solid experience. I noticed, also, on some topics I ended up with the same conclusions, which cheers me up. At the same time, I would also be thankful for not just the brief stories, but the topics, equipped with any examples, schemas, illustrative pictures, graphics, and a bit more technical things.
Regarding Midi routing - I'm super happy that i bought a iConnectivity mioXM. It had 4 midi din in/out, 4 USB host ports and ethernet. You then configure how the inputs and outputs send midi signals and channels to each other. Very nice to use USB cables to the devices that are class compliant instead of 1 or 2x din cables. I don't need to a midi cable from my computer, just using midi over ethernet. I believe you can route between different mio devices over ethernet as well. It felt like one of my best purchases I've made for my synth setup once i found how practical the routing was.
Excellent and informative! This is precisely the kind of video I am looking for in terms of how to approach setting up a workplace. I’m looking forward to a series of these if that is in the cards.
Having already scoured fora and youtube for advice on how to make my hardware play together (OP-1, pocket operators, volcas, tape recorders, eurorack, pedals, DAW), this video is an absolute godsend addition! Thank you so much for all of your stellar content!
