Systemic Racism Exists in the USA 

Who’s quote is that?

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@@mikepastor.k6233 how did you derive that from that quote that has nothing to do with what is being said

If we categorize the rights that all should have as "privilege" isn't eliminating that 'privilege' eliminating rights, eg oppression?

​@@apollocobain8363eliminating privelege isnt erasing the advantages certain people have, its providing those advantages to everyone.

That implies that he can learn anything

Shapiro knows all this, his career depends on him to not agree.

He wouldn't. He has gone on record saying that he refused to accept anything his professors taught him in UNI and only went so he could use the credentials. In other words, his entire thing is refusing to learn.

"Let's say, hypothetically, that I decide to ignore all of the facts and sources cited supporting your claims because it hurts my feelings when my baseless claims and out-of-context citations are easily refuted." - Ben Shapiro, probably

You overestimate that twat. He would watch until the first thing he disagrees with, then make an hour long reply full of conjecture to the video he didnt in fact watch

That's a smart way of putting it. Wish i had added an exposition of "institutional"

@@CynicalHistorian Thanks for the compliment!

I don't think it is set up to be indirectly racist. It is set up to be classist. Since black communities are disproportionately poor they are disproportionately effected. I don't see how calling the system racist is helpful in any way. It actually feels discriminate against non black people. The purpose of all of this seems to be to assert that the black communities' situation is not their fault. Again, not helpful. All people in this situation deserve aid. It also kills any thoughtful discussions on cultural norms that could improve.

@@garyjohnson8327 part of this is also because many of the poor working class whites tend to act against their own self interest based on rhetoric spouted by politicians and other "elites" to stoke fear and anger at minorities, thus perpetuating the divide. Yes it's classist, but its also racist. These can both be true at the same time.

@@garyjohnson8327 You do have a point. It is definitely not helpful to divide poor Americans. But, we know, for example from a quote from Ronald Reagans camapign strategist, lee Atwater, that the system is classist as a means to be racist as an end. He basically said (in the 80's) to cut social and eductional spending because albeit white people would be hurt by this, black people would be hurt harder. The quote is well documented. Check wikipedia about "Southern strategy" But again, You are not wrong, lower class people of all races should unite. "Divide and impera" is how it works now.

@@Jianju69 its bad ingeneral but currently black people are harmed more by it than white people.

That is the goal. They want it left open for the disgusting behaviors. It is very clearly designed with that end in mind.

Personal racism, while horrible, only harms those who are directly targeted by violence or oppression. Systemic racism effects everyone, even those who are told they benefit from it.

It’s a excellent episode, and our cypher explains a lot.

I've never heard anyone say that. Most conservatives deny the systemic component at all and as for personal, just a few bad apples.

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Truly a tragedy. I’m right by Selma. It’s so sad to know parts of the history and still see it blanketed by poverty and discrimination today. Not surprising once you realize how well they were able to suppress real history in our textbooks.

@MelloWattz "Now let's see what's behind all our problems. Ronald Reagan!"

@MelloWattz “and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling Libs!”

It's less about Reagan and more the untethering of capitalism from social responsibility and community investment. You know, Trickle Down? In economic theory it's called Neo-liberalism, in reality it's Corporatism, which is really sanitized Fascism, but Fascism it sure as shit is. In America, both Democrats and Republicans are Neo-liberal. The logical conclusion of capitalism is the nuetering of the state and a return to fuedalism and Might makes Right. If you find that hard to swallow, it's proven, everywhere, in the managerial corporate structure. One guy runs the company. CEO has ultimate power, he delegates from there. If our avenues of domestic growth all embody authoritarianism, well, when the lion bites off your face you won't be getting sympathy. It's worth noting that Thatcher did the exact same shit to the UK that Reagan did here, and the Tories are doing all they can to extract any wealth the working folk might still have, including buying the land out from underneath NIH hospitals and then jacking up the rents; allowing two things to occur simultaneously - making themselves wealthier - unethically of course - but then being able to scream that social medicine is bankrupting the nation. Neo-liberal media lost it's taste for investigative journalism around the death of disco, now it just wants politics to be the WWE, so the talking heads say absolutely zilch about the Tories being the cause of the crisis they're bemoaning. In times of war all for profit media just repeats the ruling party, therefore all for profit media are essentially state run. It's unfortunate that those that have benefitted the most from our societies have bought the system and are using it to declare war against anyone not already a member of their yacht club. The rich are a cancer. One that needs excision for the species to survive.

I mean, yes, but also Woodrow Wilson. Like... Bringing back the KKK. Screw that guy.

To be fair, Reagan was a douchebag racist.

yikes. thanks for letting me know

Sadly content creators have no or at least very little control over what adds get shown on their videos. The history behind Prager U would be a good video, though.

YT allows advertisers to choose what content they want to advertise on, so you get a lot of religious ads on atheist channels for example.

Cypher may correct me on this but here it goes. By clicking on those ads, you are causing those advertisers to pay Cypher. RU-vidrs get paid by the ad; more for clicks on ads. This is more of a question than a statement. 🤔

@@wPatrickSF it would be against the RU-vid terms of service to say, "that definitely works." In no way can I openly condone such behavior

That change is going to come slowly, painfully, and with great resistance. But we shall overcome… someday.

Idk what's racist about questioning imperialism or the slave trade; what can be racist is you conflating imperialism with a specific skin color and acting like other actors don't exist. I've seen more than my share fair of BLM activists say as such. Not all, but a few.

I'm 57. I have heard this discussed my entire life. How did you miss affirmative action? Happened in the 80s. A lot of people talked about it. Oh yeah, there were some urban renewal programs. ETC.

@@stephenjenkins7971 saying something like the african kingdoms where active participatan in the slave trade. Kmperialism maybe something with the whitemans burden? Idk

In a long enough timeline progressivism wins. It's just hard to maintain that endurance, understandably so.

@@dwick2751believe it or not but you’re not responsible for the actions of others just because they have the same skin color as you.

Are a multitude of reasons for it, mainly boils down to is how well the races get along in general. Many hispanic and white couples in my hometown, Hispanics and whites get along well enough, so most people don't give a crap.

It was very unusual when I was young. It's difficult to see it as routine. That said, it is not the business of others to have any say in the matter but you cannot expect people that are not brought up this way to not notice, but you can and should expect that they mind their own business.

Fortnite is the more legitimate heritage of the two

I've visited Canada, but Canada doesn't actually exist. It's just America's hat

Do you get that if you lived in a country built by your ancestors your income would be on average 1/10 of your present one? Then why should you be equal to white people if you already benefit massively from them? Why should you be entitled to have even more?

Vaush, Destiny, Hasan, Second Thought, Hakim. Many more in the left leaning sphere that explain it very well :)

@@jj4l *aushist

Is it racist or classist?

@@garyjohnson8327 kinda both honestly

@@sandmans5980 I was gonna say this too. Classism and racism unfortunately cross pollinate a lot. That isn't to say working class white people don't suffer systemic oppression but more often than not they tend to be very rural and isolated. Politicians have convinced many to act against their own vest interest by appealing to their feelings of disenfranchisement and levying the anger that comes with that towards minorities. Meanwhile said politicians and "elites" laugh at all of us working class people because they tend to view us as expendable. Fact is the rural farmer has more in common with the urban mechanic or working class immigrant than any elected official in office.

Can also be a mix out of both, some Systems had purposeful planing others by accident. Also i didn't read Cyphers argumentation as that nobody was for theses Systems ofcourse somebody wanted them. But if a Bank act racist in their loan giveing is it really a great goverment plan. I mean R. Moses could be an example for such a mix, but i am not from the US so you probaly know more anyways.

A lot of systematic racism is a continuation of the old racism yes, as people started to sympathize with black people and demand equal rights, politicians and such had to disguise their racism, and by having colorblind laws that target black people by mainly material conditions, they get plausible deniability and can say it's a personal failure

Pssst… there’s a HUGE difference between education and knowledge. It’s called “student debt”.

@@FilosophicalPharmer haha that is a good one!

@@FilosophicalPharmer Psst,Psst . I got my AA on active duty in the military, finished my BA, working after I got out in '82 .Lived and retired in the top 20% of income earners in the NYC suburbs . Put my twins through State University. No debt. So If you got some debt relief . Are you going to vote ,( by mail or whatever). or sleep in on election day? P.S, I'm African American, use to be Black, My parents were "Colored". I was bought to NY on a segregated train in the '60s , and have a six figure retirement. You took money from a rigged system..

@@machetedonttweet1343 Thankful you're an outlier, sir. Are you aware of the Consumer Price Index and how the economy was semi-sane prior to 1971? Even though you have more melanin than I, you have an advantage over me in that you sound about 10-15 years older. You also point out your family escaped from the South and you grew up in NYC, something else I'm thankful for. Circumstance rules our lives. I'm glad you made the best of yours. And yes, I completely agree our entire system is broken, rigged, immoral ... and any other words you want to use. Can't stand the money-changers of the world but one thing bankers and I have in common is this - I don't care what race, gender or orientation you are if your ideas are selfless and sane. Meanwhile, bankers don't care what race, gender or orientation you are as long as you make your payments on time. And PS - would we know Jimi Hendrix' name had he grown up in Savannah instead of Seattle?

@@machetedonttweet1343 Just thought of a funny anecdote I had to come back and share with you. I hope you get a chuckle out of it! My need to understand the world had me read Maya Angelou's "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings" a couple years ago and, OMG!, that book opened my eyes! I'm such a bleeding heart, I had to stop myself from interrupting the "nuclear families" enjoying their family time together. I wanted so badly to walk up to the Dad, look him in the eye and say "I understand." What I never realized until later is that my words and intentions, to make a connection with a Dad spending time with Mom and kids, were themselves racist! I have also learned that 'liberal racism' is the worst simply because the person you're speaking with has convinced themselves they're not!! Lastly, I'm going to end with a quote from from an angry, old white guy I heard yesterday say: "To all the racists out there who are afraid that 'blacks' or 'the Jews' are coming for them? You don't have to worry about them. You have to worry about guys who look like me coming after you. Why??? Because there are lots of us who are fed up with your ignorance, making us *ALL* look bad." 👍

@@NoahBodze That requires a drastic reformation of the entire public education system

@@NoahBodze you actually believe they had no hand in building the cities? Wasn't slavery free labor

@@NoahBodze So you basically learned nothing from the video and went full racist any way...Jamal Kareem was right...tough battle indeed.

It’s not that hard actually. White people need to realize there’s other ways to live. They’re the ones holding stuff back by continuing to support the system.

Republicans will cry CRT so

All of Cypers videos should, and their bibliography's critically analysed

@@shockcat5988 aw, you gonna cry?

@@shockcat5988 call Europeans retards? What?

@@TROBassGuitar Rule of thumb is unless you have a handful of Adderall don't feed the trolls.

I’ve noticed that many Europeans laugh at America for being racist but have never looked at their own colonial past and modern day bigotry

@@walker1tnranger Well the colonialism is addressed and dealt with in that sense. (As in systematic and such) Like we do not have any American Samoa or Guam or Porto Rico things going on in the Netherlands atm. Also i do get the knee-jerk reaction a lot. "You laughed at our racism, but you had colonialism" But I highly doubt that a colonial past doesn't leave some marks in legislation. And I think it is weird that we do not look into it. So yeah in that way we do need to look into that. Specially because we did not have slaves in the country only in the islands we colonized it might just be that it doesn't boil to the surface the way it does when there actually living next door to you.

@@jessevandeinsen4202 The Netherlands still owns islands in the Caribbean, and colonialism is alive and well, it has just taken a less direct form

@@walker1tnranger No the islands there are separate countries. They are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, but not part of the Netherlands. With their own laws and presidents. There are 2 islands that voted to be provicines of the Netherlands proper, and as such they are considered municipalities with every benefit and every duty. But before that they where part of the country the Antilles. Of which the Netherlands had no jurisdiction. The reason why i think it is a knee-jerk reaction is "Europeans" for instance, like Luxembourg or San Marino or Lichtenstein had any colonists or colonies. Europe is not one big federal thing. Hell your answer cannot distinguish the Kingdom with the country that consists of multiple countries. And I don't blame you for that btw, because it is a migraine inducing mess of asterisk and weird history. For instance I live in the Netherlands but not in Holland while my family is not from the Kingdom but from the grandduchy that is succeeded because of Saxon inherent laws. And to stay on topic, looking for laws that are biased towards a group with a racial basis that has that much asterisk and old weird stuff in it is kind of tricky if no one is looking in the mirror honestly. (Or is looking but doing a "but they are bad as well)

@@jessevandeinsen4202 I'm not so sure about that. While traditional forms of colonialism have largely fallen away, Capitalist economies still function based on indirect forms of imperialism (ex. Most of the products you consume were probably made through a combination of slave labor, resource theft, etc). While your government might not be directly holding land, the larger companies in your nation probably outsource labor to impoverished countries where they take advantage of the local population. It's a much more subtle form of imperialism/colonialism, and requires multiple nations and companies to be complicit, but I think it is still a form of colonialism nonetheless. The Netherlands might not have any imperial holdings, but all of the products you use are still the result of economic exploitation. That's not to say that Europe isn't doing better (generally, the UK is arguably as bad as the US in some regards), but I think to say that colonialism is dealt with is incorrect. It's rather that colonialism has changed forms.

That might be a bit outside cypher’s wheelhouse. I mean, I don’t know a lot of historians who know much about medicine

@@SunflowerSocialist He needn't look no further than the Henrietta Lacks story and the Black American female sterilization tactics and non-consented experiments of the good ol' boys in Southern, Western AND Northern governments, in concert with trained doctors under the purview of the federal government. It's a long-standing and not as nuanced as you think, history which continues to this day (hence the numbers of Black American women that die during childbirth as opposed to other demographics). I'm not even going to delve into the practices of theft/harvesting of blood and stem cells without consent. Hospitals for Black Americans are dangerous environments. The purposeful and harmful divestment practices of the prevailing society described in this video continues to contribute to a lack of trained Black American medical professionals and scientists, which in a fair society based upon liberty and justice, would've enabled this population to separate from the prevailing racist medical field (which has by and large, adopted the practices and culture of the foreign doctors that were snuck into the U.S. under Operation Paperclip). The medical field is no different than the political, social, real estate and banking institutions as it pertains to Black American people.

A lot of red flags here

It gets talked about all the time. Turn on fox news

Speaking as a leftist, yeah, the left can be prejudiced and bigoted, both in replicating the forms of racism we claim to oppose from time to time, but also in other ways. The thing about the left is that well it tries to aspire to a higher ideal, exists in a reality that is not that ideal. This is why the left needs to constantly question its own biases. Sexism, homophobia, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, etc. All certainly exist on the left, even if there are leftist out there who want to deny it. Those people are typically called Brosocialists.

@@jameshagan2832 It doesn't get talked about in leftist circles. Like at all. Fox News of course cries about it, but its dismissed as right-wing propaganda; that's kinda the problem.

​@@jameshagan2832 well yeah and leftists calls it right wing propaganda so....

Thanks, i have to focus on my dissertation. So monthly uploads currently

@@CynicalHistorian No worries my friend, I understand and appreciate your efforts to keep the candle burning on both ends. I am sure your hard work will pay off and your dissertation will be a great piece of history literature. I hope we all get to read it soon!

@@CynicalHistorian ah. So that’s what you’ve been up to. You are missed. But - priorities!

Malcom X also said both races should never live alongside each other. He was controversial.

yeah cool i think hitler allso sayd something like this

@Nicholas Time LOL too true

Just a slight correction. The speech was made before 1968 bc Malcolm X was a$$a$$inated in 1965.

Curious what "conclusions" you disagree with. Also policies and laws absolutely CAN eliminate racism in the hearts of people, just not right away. Change a policy and the behavior will follow. Change a behavior and a mindset will change. It takes a long time and won't be easy or pretty, but it works.

@@theodoremcdonald9471 Yeah, change a policy change a behavior as well, that really worked for drugs, goddamn authoritarian thinking.

But that’s irrelevant. The purpose of the video was to examine systemic racism, not personal racism. Laws can’t make people stop being personally racist or bigoted, but they can change systems.

@@stormevans6897 It has to be the right policy. And if you watch the video you'll see that the war on drugs was never meant to stop people from using them. It was implemented to expand government power to squash dissent and it worked very well.

@@theodoremcdonald9471 lmao no they can’t. Otherwise it would’ve already happened. Many white people believe their way of life is superior, whereas other groups just see cultures as different. Because whites see themselves as superior they will always try to remain in control.

There are always some 100% committed racists, but they are not the majority. They are a minority themselves. They cannot be reasoned with. It is more productive, to find the majority white people who arent commited to racism. However, it's no microwave dinner. It's slow cooking challenging racism, because revolutions start in the minds of people. And if they're afraid yhey will hold onto what they know. They can't think straight. That's why grifter politicians put so much energy to keeping people afraid. Secure people are not overwhelmed by change. But if they become afraid or insecure, they can't see the way to do the right thing. So, you have to pay attention to whom you seek to influence. Giod luck

I'm sure you have, it could be understood that ingroup out group dynamics can be directly or indirectly antagonistic when the ingroup norms enforces conformity with little tolerance for others that are relatively different.

@@MrCmon113 Your comment comes across pompous but I will give a reply in good faith. Bonilla-Silva does not change the definition of racism. He analyzes how racism presents itself today in people's words, ideas and opinions. In the past, racism presented itself more explicitly like actual chains and whips. Today, racism presents itself in "colorblind" or "nicer" form like "[X] got the job because of affirmative action". This makes racism much harder to get rid of because most people don't believe saying such things is racist. This is where the title of the book comes from. No one believes they are racist today but their words, ideas and opinions are perpetuating systemic racism. I invite you to read the book for yourself and come to your own conclusions. The book itself is incredibly well noted with references to hundreds of studies.

Apologies in advance for the long-winded response. While of course this is a complex question with varied and often seemingly contradictory contributing factors with neither simple answers nor easily identifiable or dichotomous victims and villains. But I'd offer at least one phenomenon that I think ensnares people of all backgrounds once they come to this country regardless of the political situation or social hierarchies they came from. America simply will not permit you to be a bystander to its history of racial subjugation nor anything that an individual or group can do will inoculate them from its externalities. As you say, the question is largely framed as black and white. I think not only because of the representation of those two groups in the population, but because it is the intense and inextricable relationship between blackness and whiteness, initially economically driven concepts creates some 400 years ago and as much a creation of the United States. It is an American innovation as significant as the invention of representative democracy. America would have never become the great country that it is without its unique system of racialized forced labor and America would not have been able to sustain its position as the dominant nation state on Earth without the subsequent creation of a permanent social underclass governed by a racial caste system. In other words my friend, the phenomenon of black and white people and their relationship to each other is the very fast moving train that continues to barrel down the tracks of American history. Anyone who becomes an American has to either get on that train or get run over by it. So my hypothesis is that other racial and ethnic minorities learn very quickly that to be positioned for success as an individual or a group is to position oneself as close in proximity to whiteness as possible and as far away from blackness as possible. And I think just as was stated in the video this doesn't necessarily happen intentionally. Well mostly not intentionally, because I also posit that black people themselves are hip to this game. It's what often accounts for the meteoric rise of African-American conservatives who are willing to be outspoken in their criticisms of other African Americans and unwavering in their absolution of the sins of white people past and present. I think it's why we see often, although not as often as the controversy might make it seem, that there is a divide between the black people who immigrate here from Africa or the Caribbean. These groups, themselves descended from histories of slavery and colonialism arrive with the perception of enough foreignness to make them seem just different enough to opt out of being defined in the same unenviable terms as America's descendants of slavery. Having said all that I wish I knew what the solution to all of this is but I'm afraid that my experience and understanding has been that every sincere, thoughtful and committed attempt to mitigate (people were killed trying to fix it; people are still being killed because of their resistance to it) it has only made it worse. We're all stuck on that train.

@@barnettder 💯💯💯💯💯💯 Excellent breakdown, sir. especially the first sentence in your second paragraph. Best post in this thread.

I’ve realized, the more educated I become, the more progressive I become.

Same, makes it more easier for people of either political ideology to really understand what he's saying and the lesson at hand

I recognize the quote, but even so I have to ask, "Is it really ok to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps?" The phrase was originally intended to refer to something that was impossible. It cannot be done.

@@justinbellpa ROFL, you straight up believe the Irish slave myth. Well one racist belief always spreads to others. what a trash human being

@@CynicalHistorian wait it's a myth? I hear it all the time from people. I really didn't know that . Don't ban me plz I'm serious lol

@@cd5433 I’m pretty sure Irish and Scottish people were used a labourers, but they were usually slave drivers. I think they were also given freedom much more frequently, but I could be wrong

Well, we know Justin didn't watch it.

@@justinbellpa did you? Which US presidents does he mention?

''Here there be dragons.''

@@justinbellpa no i just challenged you to watch the video you are commenting on and prove it. I thought the presidents would be an easy way to do it

@@justinbellpa just watch a video before commenting you snail-brained child

That's not racism that's prejudice and bigotry black people aren't in a position of power to disadvantage white people what you're talking about is mean words we're talking about being allowed to live

@@mateohodge6998 Racims means that you think your ethnicity is superior than others, so yeah they are racist.

​@@mateohodge6998 - Thank you for explaining this so that those that understand the English language can comprehend it.

​@@mateohodge6998 wow, i guess you can change definitions of a word on a whim if it suits your agenda

@@quissbird-10 I mean words and meanings do change but this has always been it's meaning the Civil rights movement had their message distorted and white washed to the point that yall think our struggles were just people being mean

Jim Crow laws, Poll taxes, bigotry, racism, xenophobia … take your pick! And don’t forget about the “professional racist” from the early 1900’s named Thomas Dixon the highway in my small, rural, Southern town is named after. What a nice homage to the man who wrote the book that “Birth of a Nation” movie is based on. It was the primary impetus that reinvigorated the KKK. Makes me NAUSEOUS!

Simple; because a lot of Communist elements were in fact backing every leftist group for the intent to cripple the US' foreign opposition to the USSR. That isn't to say that made them bad; but that is to say that the USSR fully intended to cause internal conflict and the US Government was thusly suspicious. Situation could've been avoided if Jim Crow was knocked down earlier instead of sitting on it, though.

Soldiers are, unfortunately, trained to be obedient and not ask questions. Part of the sacrifice of serving is that loss of ability to think independently. It’s not that vets are morons, it’s just that they’ve been trained.

@@Justanotherconsumer luckily, thanks to the GI bill, veterans are more educated than the populace as a whole

What do you think after watching the vid?

​@@calisto789​ I think we view reality at a fundamental level completely differently

@@robertg420 And which fundamental reality is this? Curious what this means

@@robertg420 What fundamental differences are you reffering to

At least have the decency to share with us what you believe he got wrong. Or else your just trolling.

But is it naturally occurring or is it engineered?

leave them

I'm a rye whiskey kind of guy

"on par"? Where does that have anything saying, "these are all completely equal"

@@CynicalHistorian maybe it's just me, but placing an assortment of things inside a column labeled "x" would seem to imply a parity.

@@tokevarvaspolvi8999 merely that they are all prejudiced, as the column clearly states

Cypher already kind of address this in his comments, but it’s a form of prejudice, but that does not mean it is on the same level as for instance racism or antisemitism or homophobia. Nearly that it exists in the broad category of prejudice. And Cypher has very clear rules, that big and to get banned.