T-80UD Full Review - Should You Buy It? - Move Over, Turms [War Thunder] 

Don't forget object 292

You can also have crazy powerful event vehicles like the 292, Moderna and BMD-4 (ik it's at 9.0 but it can hold it's own at 10.0 no problem) too

fucked up that other nations dont even get 10.0 premiums most of the time. either that or they only get 2 9.3 ground vehicles at max. There's really no denying that this game has an insane Russian bias that's getting too obnoxious.

I personally think the 10.0 br was killed with the 292 so it’s it already dead adding this is overkill so if you’re not doing Russia you’re not doing 10.0 plain and simple

I have all vehicles in my 10.0 lineup and they’re good tanks, it’s just half the time your team gets stomped

In the first sec they add another Leo2A4

magic russian ammo never blow up, ukraine images is fake news !!! ;)

Same on 292. I already hated the tree maps as is, and now all enemies are very mobile (even m60`s). And then you get stuff like swedish tanks, that blend VERY well with environment due to their paintjob.

Bro the cope is real! Try any British tank for the same reverse vehical. Hold W to win man... Shit where is our op vehicles at 10.0? You have the most broke line up in the game right now.

British tanks at that br have good reverse. What are you on about?@@spazz954

​@@spazz954 british get all the NATO advantages of better gun depression and reverse speed. Trust me the british are alright though the top tier tanks are kinda rough compared to the rest.

for real. I really enjoy the T-72B 89 and wonder how the T-80UD is compared to it

Because it’s a T-72 with almost no significant features to make it stand out on top of being a foldered vehicle. The ERA is cool and all but the weak points are exactly the same regardless. Nobody was putting rounds through the turret armor before the ERA was there same with the upper front plate (barring some ATGMS and maybe the 292 but most of those are either stopped by normal ERA so the upgrade does not matter or are tandem and ignore the upgraded ERA) it’s pretty much identical to all the other T-72s in the game after the A model (except the Moderna where it actually has something unique) with all the same weaknesses and strengths.

@@Grebogoborp the point is. The T80UD is basically the same as the 89 just with slightly better armor.

@@FXIIBeaver also like 150 more horsepower a 0.6 sec faster reload but yeah generally the same thing it’s just that the T-80UD is premium so people are much more likely to play it

This one has even better armor

Not on the hull. The Hull armor has a plate 15mm less than a normal T-80U. Even then, t72B has overall better hull armor than T-80s.

The UD though has terrible reverse speed and no thermals

True. I'd still probably take it over the t72b's just because of the better optics. But I also wouldn't take it, because it's not worth 9k GE 😂😂. I'd rather have a Turms if I still needed to grind blyat tech tree.

I kindly remind you that you should try to remember the last time you've seen those in battle. Cannot? Oh. See. A better tank isn't being used despite being everywhere better. Some Sovêt magia. You know, ma-gic.

Hope not, the TURMS is the best one of the premiums, definitely the one most worth buying.

it wont, turms is still more worth as its a pack and not a ge vehicle

Gaijin only retires premiums if it stops making money and the turms is bringing in a lot of money for them so they won't retire it

​@@Boris_The_TurtleThis is better than the turms imo

@@WilliamStewart1 nah this had no thermals

Father Tankenstein has sermons every Saturday at 11:00 EST/EDT

Cheapskate

Same the no thermals + 4 km backwards, really screws this tank over.

It will take 1 or 2 years for it to be discounted.

@@santi8732So? I don't need that tank right now.

@@santi8732itll take 3 updates, so like 7-8 months

I didn't got one downtier with it😭

If you need to ask this, that means you're a new player who jumped right into it... Any experienced player will mercilessly wipe you out for at least the first few hundreds of games. Expect a 0.5 K/D XDD You're in for a really really rude awakening but hey, you need that dopamine right?

@@doktork3406 i'm not new anymore but years ago I was new and just jumped in... it wasn't that bad... but also that's how I learned to get really good

Dart

I doubt it will ever go to 10.3 it will bring less sales for gaijin

@@General_kenobi12 Let's hope you're right. It's true that money is the only metric they care about (looking at you, broken OP 2S38 fantasy PUMA), but on the other hand I remember the T-55AM-1. I wouldn't put it past Gaijin to decide that Soviet 10.0 is saturated, let's start a 10.3 line-up like the other nations.

@@TheKythiapretty sure 2s38 is getting the 10.3 treatment soon

@@RedMetalSuit They said they'll add some more modules to break, but won't up the BR, because it makes too much money. I ended up buying the T-80UD btw, great machine.

​@@TheKythialets not hope its anoying af to deal with bad skill op walket warriors

you know that 10.0-10.3 USSR are constantly play with 11.0-11.3 uptiers right?

With the exception that 72b of 1989 sample outclassing its armour. Literally a typical NATO enjoyer with a short wallet, i.e. researched only one tree and now are drawing conclusions. And insane reload is the reload that is worse than its competitors on an advanced crew. Also it's Aritte which is the words tank at any given BR. Yet what? Yes, Abrams receives 5 sec riälistik riloud .

@@NAPALM56 no-u. 10.0(10.3) in his imagination wrecks poor leopard 1

​@@worldoftancraft It practically has the same level of protection as the 72b 1989, as well as the T-80U (sweden 11.0), UK T-90 (10.3), and the previously mentioned tech tree T-80B (10.3). "typical NATO enjoyer" Maybe don't say crap about people you don't know. I've put research into USA, Germany, Russia, Sweden, and Israel, and have also purchased a fair share of premiums from each said country. As for reload, yeah it's slightly worse than expert or aced 7.8 sec MBT's. It's also better than aced 8.7 sec MBT's, and has faster auto loading than every other MBT auto loader in the game except for tanks such as itself at 11.0 and above. It's a Moderna with better reload, better armor, better turret rotation, better heatfs, and fires atgms. This vehicle definitely isn't 10.7, but it also isn't 10.0.

@@jasonjobst I said what i said because the base part of your charges is what 80% of this community repeats day after night. While i had such magnifique experience of shooting space when i go forward on a Russian tank, and because of veri advensid implementation of FCS in game, game doesn't react anyhow on you hitting some debris(like smashed car) or a road bump and allow you to shoot your raised barrel(stabilizer is limited in the functioning by the depression and elevation angles) into damned space. Not into enemy

it misses what makes t80's good, the turbine engine

The reverse gear​@@colony3610

Buy the turms first trust me

​@@thatdudefrom7118nah the turms is worse

I have the ud, it’s a good tank, but it’s reverse speed is the elephant in the room, trying to peek and shoot is asking for a death sentence

True. Give something else ffs, its not like russia needs any more 10.0`s.

10.3 does make a difference it means you face 11.3s in upteir vs only the tiny amount of 11.0s

292 is a death machine. Can pen top tier Abrams cheeks. And has deadly HE with Lrf. It's basically too strong.

I bet you they will give a prem leclerc

That's gaijin for you :/

Why would you use an 11.3 tank, you would be getting constant up-tiers to 11.7 where the turms and t80ud (no thermals) would suffer. Better off tanking the uk out of the lineup and playing at 10.0 so you can potentially stomp 9.7 and below players

I get what you saying but if you know what you do and how to play with those tanks 11.3 is not even bad. I get almost every game 5+ kills and my win prosent is over 50%

@@WalletWarrior12344 fair but imagine how hard you would stomp in a full down tier against 9.0

I have one nuke video on my channel. Full downtier :D

Yeah i stomp them pretty hard. I have one video in my channel with these tanks and got a nuke.

Never probably only Russia is allowed to have things like that

I'd insta-buy a premium Merkava 1 with a worse round at 9.0. The Merk 1B at 9.3 along with the 2D and several actually genuinely good Magach's is so redundant and pointless.

@@PraetorianManare you saying you don’t like playing the same M60s with a couple weighty modifications for 3 tiers? Shame on you. Who wants variety?

Honestly. The merkavas mk1 and 2B need to be 9.0 like the American merkava. The merkava 2D needs to be 9.3 and get the M426 (I think?) Shell; the same one the gal batash has.

@@Optimusprime56241 your «onli rusiä can have X» argument is outdated since Suffering nations have got their Bullpups and Nords. Oh. Yes, you can't even remember that for 2 and half straight damned years in Sovêt tree there was no analogue at all (while now there is nothing like those at the respective BR). «B-bb-bbb-oooooottttt roooskijye biäs!!11!¡¡¡1!!1»© BTW, what Russia can't have(see there's such phenomenon!) wheeled tanks. Despite testing Centauro and other Italian IFV in 2012. While Sweden can have anything because Balanz. So, STFU.

The turms is actually no much different from T72B i think

80UD is an E1 without thermals at 10.0

It's a setting in the options menu

it's like that for top tier cannons.

​@@wotwott2319no, its not. Its in settings called "camera shake" or something like that

It's far from being crap, Turms is crap

@@K.Marx48 Yes, but it's a T-80 too, T-80B is much better.

120S is awful lmao, and it can’t even pen you

@@Optimusprime56241 It can and will. The only thing that stops it is kontakt 5.

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 it can’t pen the T80UD lmao

@@Optimusprime56241 it relatively reliably penetrates it from 2 km distance, exception being default things like the edge side of turret or bugs, thank you gaëjizz, of the most rialistik DM Also, like any other Sovêt tanks(they are unique here) it can die from fuel tank BS

@@Optimusprime56241 you mean it cant pen the front cuz a side shot will make it go realistic aka turret goes flying WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS TO RUSSIAN TANKS IN UKRAINE THEY BLOW UP LIKE NO AMMO DISAPPEARING WHEN THATS HIT IT FUCKING BLOWS UP!!!!

or helis Mi-8AMTSh BR 9.7 has 5km shturms and iglas wtf

So next year^^

@@steffent.6477 yes😓

Fck no

@@zer0asanumberFck yes

Have all of them 😊

How is turms op lol it's slow and armor is ass it's only advantage is the FCS+3BM42

@@meezo9980 even 3bm42 is not very good cuz damage is very random and unreliable on it so it leaves us only with FCS

nah ur tweakin, the 10.0 SU-25's arent over tiered

@@NAPALM56 3bm42 is good lol never had any complaints oneshots reliably

Actual skill issue like no meme no joke if you need thermals to play that’s a skill issue

I mean this thing should be 10.3 because it powercreeps all of the other 10.0s with the exception of the Obj 292 which itself is under tiered. M1 Abrams is a bit sad with its round but assuming the player can aim, the superior mobility and handling on the leopards and abrams makes them better than the Russian 10.0 tanks.

@@Boris_The_Turtle and what should be M60 with Abrams turret? 1.0 because you don't like the shape? What about fighting thing of 11.0 Abrams? Lolpenning everything at the BR? Other rhetorical BS of a NATO enjoyer? I mean, did you play 292th?

@@worldoftancraft You just act defensive because you have probably ground out or purchased this vehicle. That is understandable. The Abrams with the M60 honestly seems kinda crap to me, terrible mobility with no proper lineup. I would rather use the Stryker. By my stat card I am actually a Russia main. It’s just that this is getting out of hand. 10.0 Russia was already pretty insane, but the Object 292 being 10.0 is absurd. T-80U armor and mobility with more firepower at 10.0 with minor trade offs is outrageous. I may just become a NATO main now. Playing unbalanced vehicles gets really boring really fast. I’ve recently started enjoying the fast paced gameplay mobility of the NATO stuff.

They could but honestly the mobility on the T-80B would still make it better.

They should put it at 10.7 without buffing it.

@@Jerry0880 the only Thing that would make it playable is the Armor!

@@XPOHOC. It's still a T80U which is a 11.3 tank, but with no thermals, 80MMs less pen, and slightly worse mobility.

@@Jerry08803BM42 is a meh Round, okay pen for 10/10.3 BR post pen is unreliable. No Thermals worse mobility, maybe Gajin should give the T80B 6.5 sec Reload like the other T80´s and take it up to 10.7, T80UD would go to 11.0 BR with 3BM46 and no Thermals. Off topic but M1A2 SepV2 should get the M829A2 APFS DS Round.

Type-90s literally eat this thing for breakfast

@@joshhanklon I wouldn't be surprised if the Type-90s go up in battle rating to 11.3 next update....

​@@wifi_soldier5076hope not, unless they also buff their reload to a more realistic sub-3 seconds. Fast reload can't be the only thing making a mediocre Leo2a4 jump to 11.3.

The 1989 has a better reverse speed and armor doesn’t it?

But it is better, wdym?

Dawg who actually cares about shitty gen 1 thermals

bruh there already is 11.0 t80 without thermals this thing should be 10.7 i dont give a fuck

​@@jPlanerv2 where did you find 11.0 t80? Are you talking about 11.3 t80u? If so - that one has thermals

@@VanzerPanzer t80um2 doesn’t have any thermals lol

@@Optimusprime56241 oh, the drozd one. Forgot it exists ngl

you guys whine about everything, including T34. While when I take the control of the things, I don't whine. Do you know the answer? Do you understand possible reasons?

Maybe other countries should have just made better tanks

The moderna is so expensive and is at 10.3

Neither?

It’s not garbage, you are the one who’s garbage

it's trash in trash hands. It's quite easy to rack up 7 kills per game in the TURMS

@@jackass9462 you can say the exact same thing for every vehicle in the game, doesn't make it anymore true. But I'm not complaining, it's free kills, If you're entitled to your idiotic opinion so be it.

​@stacked4637 skill issue. If you're playing garbage with this and the TURMS the problem is you.

@@theplum2706 Are you slow or something? Who said I'm using the Turms? It's dogshit and every player using the Turms is dogshit. Like I've stated several times already it's a free kill and if you're moronic enough to push the agenda that it's a good vehicle then I won't complain cuz at the end of the day the more people playing this trash vehicle the easier it is for everyone else.

The UD diesel only has an 4.2 km/h reverse speed, the gas turbine U has an 11 km/h reverse

It has a weaker Diesel engine and the T-72 transmission, so it gets the poor 4 kph reverse gear.

Fair*

This is better than the Turms in every way except for not having thermals. Thermals are important at BR 11 so it's hard to say which would be better. I guess it depends on the map.

@@thor923 yep cause 10.0 doesn't fight anything with thermals at 11.0 or at 9.0 🤔😒🤡

@@Kevin-mk6jo yep cause thermals are as common at 9.0 as at 11.0 and vehicles with higher BR doesn't ususally have better quality thermals 🤔😒🤡

@@thor923 God of War.

Ukraine didn’t exist then

@@byzantinehoney3384 ukrainian ssr

One can get used to it especially if the optics themselves are good (Zoom, FOV) but thermals are definitely a good thing.

yea, it's easy to exploit that weakness esp during the object 292 event

That’s standard for 10.0 USSR lmao

Who cares?

Not that big of a deal. Thermals are a crutch, you can do fine without them