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T.E. Lawrence better known as Lawrence of Arabia is one of the biggest legends of World War 1. His adventures in the Middle East during the Arab Revolt were made into a movie and a bestselling book. But how did Lawrence actually end up in Cairo? And what was his relationship with Faisal?
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@ccswelding1599
@ccswelding1599 7 лет назад
"was beaten ..thrown in prison, where a Dr. helped him escape"...isn't that the origin story of Ironman?
@alexn8795
@alexn8795 7 лет назад
You forgot "sexually abused"
@jorgeborwell6767
@jorgeborwell6767 5 лет назад
@Random Person Lawrence was a sado masochistic compulsive homosexual, the Deraa episode was probably a fantasy.
@painkillerjones6232
@painkillerjones6232 5 лет назад
@@jorgeborwell6767 idiot! It was the imprisonment that made him that way.
@yaki_ufo6007
@yaki_ufo6007 5 лет назад
@Random Person to your point, the part where he complains about "no billing, no meals, and no liquor" seems to be missing the addition of "no women".
@miguepreza5870
@miguepreza5870 5 лет назад
Well that confirm history can be as much exciting as fantasy
@maksuree
@maksuree 8 лет назад
i've somehow managed to use learning history to procrastinate
@thebrutusmars
@thebrutusmars 8 лет назад
Same
@negativecharisma7583
@negativecharisma7583 7 лет назад
Gary Gary Gary Gary!
@tc2083
@tc2083 7 лет назад
Gary? Gaaaryy
@mkyalva
@mkyalva 7 лет назад
Gary?
@NerevarOfficialReal
@NerevarOfficialReal 7 лет назад
Gary!
@HistoryBuffs
@HistoryBuffs 8 лет назад
I just want to say it was an absolute pleasure working with you guys. Thank you for inviting me to be in one of your videos and I'm so happy to see that your community are just passionate about history as mine are. You have built something very special with your channel and I also wish to do the same with mine :)
@HistoryBuffs
@HistoryBuffs 8 лет назад
And historically accurate!
@toddcrane4318
@toddcrane4318 8 лет назад
Love your channel
@thefrostbitesk
@thefrostbitesk 8 лет назад
+History Buffs what a great channel. I subscribed and cant wait to see some of your videos.
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 8 лет назад
+History Buffs Damn you for wasting my entire evening! I clicked on your profile and ended up watching your videos all evening! And I ended up subscribing! Seriously though, you make good stuff.
@chooseyouhandle
@chooseyouhandle 8 лет назад
+History Buffs nice to see you again nicky poo
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 8 лет назад
All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. This I did. -T.E. Lawrence
@adrianhoward-larsen2291
@adrianhoward-larsen2291 8 лет назад
actually the last part (this i did) wasn't part of the real quote, that part was made up from the game uncharted 3.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 8 лет назад
+Adrian Howard-Larsen Not true. Look it up.
@adrianhoward-larsen2291
@adrianhoward-larsen2291 8 лет назад
BHuang92 no you look it up there is no where that says anything about that last part in there exept some uncharted 3 stuff comes up with that added on, I'm not saying your lying but I cannot find any factual evidence of that part of the quote.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 8 лет назад
+Adrian Howard-Larsen I think this might help: ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/l/lawrence/te/seven/introduction1.html
@AimForMyHead81
@AimForMyHead81 8 лет назад
that quote was made up for uncharted 3
@asj8048
@asj8048 5 лет назад
AS THE DARKNESS FALLS AND ARABIA CALLS ONE MAN SPREADS HIS WINGS AS THE BATTLE BEGINS MAY THE LAND LAY CLAIM ON TO LAWRENCE' NAME SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
@mattaffenit9898
@mattaffenit9898 5 лет назад
FAR FROM THEIR LAND AS THEY MADE THEIR... wait, wrong one.
@alexamerling79
@alexamerling79 4 года назад
Damn, beat me to it lol
@lawrenceofarabia7474
@lawrenceofarabia7474 4 года назад
i like it
@yohanrylehizon8013
@yohanrylehizon8013 4 года назад
470th like
@superdaaa5563
@superdaaa5563 2 года назад
In the end Indy was also Lawrence some years later
@jonsnoff5369
@jonsnoff5369 5 лет назад
SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
@acaperic359
@acaperic359 5 лет назад
Jon Snoff when darkness falls and arabia calls
@anuragshah6243
@anuragshah6243 5 лет назад
ONE MAN SPREADS HIS WINGS, AS THE BATTLE BEGINS
@jonsnoff5369
@jonsnoff5369 5 лет назад
MAY THE LAND LAY CLAIM ON TO LAWRENCE NAME
@disceva6443
@disceva6443 5 лет назад
SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM LIGHTS THE FLAME
@dand4139
@dand4139 5 лет назад
Im so glad I was able to witness this.
@oakmist2016
@oakmist2016 7 лет назад
He died in a motorcycle accident when he hit a tree after swerving to miss pedestrians... How anti-climactic.
@jisim6773
@jisim6773 7 лет назад
Oakmist I think it was sheep actually
@Vatsyayana87
@Vatsyayana87 7 лет назад
Lame death for a lame person, seems fitting to me.
@MrRenegadeshinobi
@MrRenegadeshinobi 7 лет назад
Same with Patton, man of epic status, died in car crash.
@yinyang2971
@yinyang2971 7 лет назад
MrRenegadeshinobi there's a conspiracy that he was murdered since he died days later in a hosputal
@anthonyteasley3837
@anthonyteasley3837 7 лет назад
worst thing is that he probably would've survives if he had worn a helmet
@filipeamaral216
@filipeamaral216 8 лет назад
"The Seven Pillars of Wisdom" is useful as a handbook for training and advising guerrilla forces and is still obligatory reading in many special forces units around the world.
@blackbird5634
@blackbird5634 3 года назад
This is a clever way for today's military to insert the reader into the ''heroic persona'' of Lawrence who was an historical figure changing the map of the middle east one successful desert raid at a time. No one is allowed to make such free wheeling decisions in the field, for example look at Major Jim Gant "Lawrence of Afghanistan" who was drummed out of the military for ''going native.'' If you want to brainwash an entire class of young, impressionable officers who just graduated and who want to change the world for democracy, you can't do better than to have them all dreaming the same dream. And give it to them as assigned reading under the pretext of ''understanding the Arab question in the East." Seven Pillars isn't a handbook on counter-terrorism, it is a romantic re-imagining of Lawrence's campaign that he himself admits is more poetry and ''love letter'' than factual account.
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 года назад
Pfft Lawrence mythical status was exaggerated by the media and by himself. A lot of his claims were not verified, even the video stated it. If you want a real book of guerilla warfare, Mao wrote one. And he was really in the trenches and led an army. Lawrence was a glorified intelligence officer whose company was enjoyed by tribal leaders. He was well connected Brit, not unlike the privileged britons that has connections with royal family of the gulf states
@holdinmcgroin8639
@holdinmcgroin8639 2 года назад
@@TheZachary86 Sorry but that's just butthurt Maoism talking. The commander of the North Vietnamese guerillas said that he read Seven Pillars as if it were his Bible.
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 года назад
@@holdinmcgroin8639 Sorry but that’s butthurt English cope. The commander never said anything as such. And the fact that the Chinese trained north Vietnamese and also the Vietcong says a lot more about Chinese capability on guerilla war. It would eventually come to bite them for training them so well.
@holdinmcgroin8639
@holdinmcgroin8639 2 года назад
@@TheZachary86 Vo Nguyen Giap is on record of saying that Seven Pillars of Wisdom was his Bible.
@mitchellneu
@mitchellneu 5 лет назад
"Nothing is written." - Peter O'Toole, Lawrence of Arabia(1962) One of the greatest lines of dialogue ever written from one of the greatest movies ever made.
@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays
@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays 2 года назад
The man that wrote that dialog was smoking a pipe in one of he scenes at the Officer's bar in Cairo.
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 Год назад
Huh!
@theunbeatable6598
@theunbeatable6598 Год назад
He was a scammer of the modern history lol
@angloaust1575
@angloaust1575 Год назад
These things are written that you Might believe on his name Scripture says!
@L.P.1987
@L.P.1987 7 месяцев назад
Was referenced in BF1
@Ekib-Niatnuom
@Ekib-Niatnuom 8 лет назад
Saw a reprint of the 70mm film "Lawrence of Arabia" it was visually possibly one of the most visually stunning movies I have ever seen. Amazing.
@scasey1960
@scasey1960 8 лет назад
Read about the actual filming - amazing story.
@M3Busssin
@M3Busssin 8 лет назад
+Todd C visually visually visually visually
@prof_kaos9341
@prof_kaos9341 5 лет назад
It won an Oscar for Cinematography. You can't beat the panorama of a 70mm screening
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 5 лет назад
Todd C It gives “2001” a run for its money, and that’s saying something.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 5 лет назад
It is a classic piece of cinema history. One of the best films ever made in 70mm "wide screen" and best seen on the biggest screen available. Among its many Oscars was one for the editing done by Anne B. Coates ( who passed away last year ).
@MilionCokies
@MilionCokies 8 лет назад
A side note about T.E. Lawrence. Lawrence died 6 days after crashing on his 8th af final Brough Superior motorcycle (All of which were named George) as a result of getting his head quite torn up by the crash. One of the doctors attending him was the neurosurgoen Hugh Cairns, who began a long study on the deaths of motorcycle riders as a result of head injuries. These studies lead to the creation of the crash helmet which have saved thousands of lives of motorcycle riders all around the world. So in my humble opinion, the best thing Lawrence ever did was die, since his death have saved so many lives.
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 8 лет назад
True story!
@wankertosseroath
@wankertosseroath 8 лет назад
+Milion Cokies can't believe it took a neurosurgeon to discover that it might be good to wear a helmet..
@kagi95
@kagi95 8 лет назад
+Milion Cokies I agree.
@michaelmcclellan6944
@michaelmcclellan6944 5 лет назад
Lawernce was a man of imperial ambitions even though he had a personal character that was noble...just like Clive or Gordon...I tend to hold the view had Lawernce lived until WWll he would have did exactly like Stirling or Wingate killing Germans because Lawernce was a typical normal patriotic Englishman who wanted Britain to be victorious.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 5 лет назад
What a ridiculous thing to say... Quite aside from the fact that he wrote one of the most beguiling poems in the English language (as far as I am concerned, at least); or, that those unforgettable, highly-stylized, descriptive passages in 'Seven Pillars' soar as high, linguistically, as those of any writing every produced in terms of their exquisite beauty and craftsmanship, he will be remembered as an unforgettable, iconic legend in the history of Mankind because of his determination to 'do the right thing' (to his own Country - AND to the Arabs, at first). He will be remembered for this phenomenal bravery and selfless sacrifice verging on the the suicidal, for sure.... He will be remembered for the sense of betrayal - firstly that he felt against himself - and, of course, the inescapable and ominous sense of betrayal he saw circling above the Arabs - an inescapable sense of injustice to which he became party to, it seems... This sense of duplicity which he felt personally complicit for the rest of his life - regardless of the fact that he did everything humanly possible to help the Arab people with every ounce of courage and violence, too, he could muster... He shall be remembered for the failure (regardless of the fact that the Arabs DID of course win their nation, of a kind, after all) ... He shall be remembered for an absurd, personal mission - a vision almost - which evaporated like a mirage and left only death and deception... THIS is what transfixes the imagination of those of us with eyes and ears - who listen ONLY to those who were actually THERE and who described the man and what he did.... The towering legend of Lawrence of Arabia seems to have passed you by completely. Do you have any gonads?! Man... Sorry, but "crash helmets" - and "to die was the best thing he ever did"? ...Wow.
@arachnonixon
@arachnonixon 8 лет назад
"we don't want a powerful and united Arabian kingdom". seems policy on the matter hasn't changed one bit since then.
@mattsmith-we8ny
@mattsmith-we8ny 7 лет назад
probably because a powerful Arab kingdom usually ends up whith jihad on European soil
@mattsmith-we8ny
@mattsmith-we8ny 7 лет назад
Ali Ahmed moAli Ahmed no, its becouse of jihad
@zaidjarrar8796
@zaidjarrar8796 7 лет назад
matt smith you're kinda right. since the arabs actually conquered spain and was almost successful at conquering france.
@TheJohnnyJohnny
@TheJohnnyJohnny 7 лет назад
matt smith Jihad ≠ Suicide Bombing ≠ Call for war. No no no. That is a false interpretation from your media.
@gabrielz5586
@gabrielz5586 7 лет назад
they never fully conquered spain dafaq you going on about. they got close, but not fully.
@AaronSaysSKOL
@AaronSaysSKOL 7 лет назад
I love that this channel sponsors other historical channels. This channel is the reason I started watching History Buffs and Extra History
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад
Well, and History Buffs and Extra History are the reason a lot of people are watching our show. Gotta stick together.
@Krtx40
@Krtx40 7 лет назад
Seamus Aindriu O'Coran same
@Simplehistory
@Simplehistory 7 лет назад
Good idea :)
@Vatsyayana87
@Vatsyayana87 7 лет назад
Funny, i hate the commercialism, i am watching this to learn about LoA not be interrupted by another channel to try and get more subs. If you wanna pull that crap then make an occasional episode about it.
@miguepreza5870
@miguepreza5870 5 лет назад
This Is one of the best channels in you tube
@MsDjessa
@MsDjessa 8 лет назад
5:08 Machiavelli would have agreed. He wrote in The Prince that if an army consisting of Italians faced a foreign army they would probably lose. But if an Italian faced a foreigner in duel, the Italian would probably win. Seems much like the Arab warriors in early 20th century Renaissance era Italians also were individualistic in combat.
@cielopachirisu929
@cielopachirisu929 7 лет назад
Though remember that their situations were different. Machiavelli's primary gripe about the Italians was their disunity and reliance on paid mercenaries rather than loyal home-grown armies, whom would simply become part of the problem should anyone whose not Italian decide they want to invade Italy. Given how often the Italians were turned against each other in the Italian Wars that happened soon after Machiavelli's time, it seems he was right.
@MsDjessa
@MsDjessa 7 лет назад
That is true.
@kaczynskis5721
@kaczynskis5721 5 лет назад
@@cielopachirisu929 He was an early proponent of Italian unity as opposed to the reality in his day of lots of small principalities that were easy prey to foreigners like the French.
@fulcoma
@fulcoma Год назад
"Lawrence of Arabia's War," by Neil Faulkner and "Lawrence in Arabia," by Scott Anderson, are two great books, very detailed, regarding not only Lawrence, but other personalities and specific battles. These books get rid of misconceptions, rumors, etc. about how the middle east campaign was waged.
@christopherpardell4418
@christopherpardell4418 5 лет назад
The video repeats unfounded and unsupported criticisms of Lawrence’s account in the pillars... ignoring that General Allenby attested that the book was accurate. I often hear people claim that Lawrence brags and exaggerates his role in his book, and I can only say that that is perfect proof they never actually read it. Thru the entire book, Lawrence goes to great lengths to point out that he was just ONE of the many British operatives. He explains that although he conducted raids on the Hejaz, that he neither came up with the tactic, nor was he even involved with the vast majority of them, and he credits the men who did. He was tortured by the bey, who had no idea who he really was, but thought him an ordinary British deserter. And the man who let him go, thought he was letting go an ordinary British deserter. I.e. no threat to the Turkish army. He let him go because he had seen the bey do this to many men, and never bother to ask what became of them the next day. All in all, reading the unabridged version of the book, Lawrence comes across and extremely intelligent, with penetrating insight into the war, the Arab revolt, and his place in it... as well as his having all the prejudices that were common to the English officer class of his era. Far from exaggerating his importance, he constantly plays down his efforts as being anything more than a sideshow... and about the only act he takes genuine credit for is the plan of how to approach Aqaba... without being discovered. Aqaba was not just a small garrison...it was a port that could supply the turks... but also a port that could supply the advancing british. Lawrence does not claim it as an important victory for the allies, rather, he cites it as important only to the morale of the Arab revolt, and the reputation of Faisal. Far from his book being a story of his ability to endure whatever the bedouin could, he plainly details his crippling saddle sores and personal doubts. His own feelings of guilt over the promises he made that he knew to be false. He stated outright that his book might seem to focus on him, but that that was only because the only things he could attest to true;y were the things he himself had experienced. He was not writing a book about the war, nor the overarching campaign, but of the experience of one man serving in a very unusual capacity in that war. Lawrence was not a prima Donna, despite the news stories of him... he wrote his book to settle some massive debts, and then refused republication several times. He spent the rest of his life hiding from the press and public acclaim, even going so far as to change his name and try to join an army unit. All in all, it’s a great read.
@garyforsyth6284
@garyforsyth6284 4 года назад
I just finished The Seven Pillars and I couldn't agree more. Laurence is generous in his praise of the other officers and men involved in the Arab revolt.
@user-rl8ji
@user-rl8ji 4 года назад
I’m curious I want to read it
@CrystalJ7
@CrystalJ7 4 года назад
That was enlightening, thank you!
@rup54
@rup54 3 года назад
@@user-rl8ji Interesting but heavy read. Read Michael Korda's biography first.
@rup54
@rup54 3 года назад
Excellent analysis. I agree. I read Korda's biography on TE Lawrence first then tackled the 7 Pillars of Wisdom. TE Lawrence was remarkable - he is the real deal and he seems to have been rather modest.
@420jimihendrix69
@420jimihendrix69 8 лет назад
I wish teachers in school would teach using videos like this instead of reading from a text book to prepare for a standardized test
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
Especially as they can use everything for free. We're happy to help and educate.
@watchingbrian1767
@watchingbrian1767 8 лет назад
We did ;)
@olivergreen2538
@olivergreen2538 8 лет назад
m3th our teacher do but only one teacher in our school becuse the other techers want us to suffer
@shotime1651
@shotime1651 7 лет назад
in our school the principal recommends this type of teaching so most of our teachers do the same thing like indy is doing they call it teachnology sori for my english though XD
@futureblue49
@futureblue49 7 лет назад
There is a certain irony to your wish. You don't want teachers reading from a book to prepare you for a test modeled after it. But instead you want teachers to show you a video of someone reading from a script to prepare you for a test modeled after it. Either way. Someone is reading from something to prepare you for a test modeled after that something that was read.
@emilykovairik5311
@emilykovairik5311 8 лет назад
So your saying the mess we are in now in the middle east was the British and French fault?
@arthurg.calixto3338
@arthurg.calixto3338 6 лет назад
Nothing new to see here.
@johntechwriter
@johntechwriter 5 лет назад
Don’t you know? Here in the USA only pussies wear helmets.
@SuperDubios
@SuperDubios 5 лет назад
Yes.
@joda4024
@joda4024 5 лет назад
yes
@alperenbaser5595
@alperenbaser5595 5 лет назад
Yes
@dimitrijejovanovic5939
@dimitrijejovanovic5939 5 лет назад
Anyone coming here because of Sabaton song "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom"?
@pylon3296
@pylon3296 5 лет назад
Dimitrije Jovanovic yup XDD
@mitchellneu
@mitchellneu 5 лет назад
Yup. My favorite song off the "Great War" album hands down.
@tejesedeny
@tejesedeny 5 лет назад
I watched Great War channel before, but I didn't watch all the specials. And yes, I watched this special just now because of the Sabaton song. :D
@emperorofholyrome5403
@emperorofholyrome5403 8 лет назад
The Great war and History Buffs crossover, I like it!
@eze2576
@eze2576 8 лет назад
+Emperor of Holy Rome If you like it, so must we
@mustarastas88
@mustarastas88 8 лет назад
+Emperor of Holy Rome The Kaiser has spoken. The Kaiser is right.
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax 8 лет назад
Such an interesting guy, the whole Arab uprising is so interesting to me. Doesn't hurt that Lawrence of Arabia is such a great movie
@STFU768
@STFU768 7 лет назад
yeah I agree great movie and cool guy :) some say that his stories are embellished but you never know, but me personally I believe he was pretty much what he himself said he was
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 5 лет назад
@@STFU768 Exactly, Sir! ...Me, too... A lot of talking and gossip going on... Lawrence was clearly slightly strange, and a man of mind-blowing courage... ALL say that about him that were THERE.
@salahaddinayoub7623
@salahaddinayoub7623 4 года назад
I’m Arab my self and ashamed of the Arab revolt because look at the Middle East now. Greed and money drove us to this mess we have now in the Middle East. If only we stayed loyal to the ottomans. There is nothing interesting, it should be called the great betrayal not the great arab revolt.
@EnigmaEnginseer
@EnigmaEnginseer 3 года назад
@@salahaddinayoub7623 If there’s anyone you should accuse of betraying the empire it’s the Pasha who brought his ships up and instigated a conflict with the Russians, thus dragging the empire into the war
@sachemofboston3649
@sachemofboston3649 3 года назад
@@salahaddinayoub7623 the ottomans were already falling apart and the young Turks had taken control.
@OfficialRedTeamReview
@OfficialRedTeamReview 8 лет назад
I love History Buffs good channel!
@hamods6459
@hamods6459 8 лет назад
I love you carmine!
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+RedTeamReview We thought so too Mr Review.
@aidanalvarez5486
@aidanalvarez5486 2 года назад
🎵 As the darkness falls and Arabia calls One man spreads his wings, as the battle begins May the land lay claim onto Lawrence name Seven pillars of wisdom lights the flame 🎵
@PxThucydides
@PxThucydides 8 лет назад
The book "Lawrence In Arabia" states that the Turkish governor of Deraa, Hajim Bey, who Lawrence said abused him sexually, actually survived the war and died in 1965 in Smyrna. If only some journalist had looked him up and asked him about the story! His relatives, though, still around, called the story absurd, because Hajim was extremely well-educated, spoke multiple languages, and was a well-known womanizer. One of those great missed journalistic opportunities...
@michaelkadunce3155
@michaelkadunce3155 6 лет назад
Basil McDonnell.
@koksalceylan1088
@koksalceylan1088 6 лет назад
It is not about the fact or trues but about myth making and demonising. For so far what I heard is that he liked it. When a Turk war not around he had an Arab to full his back door. That was one of the reasons that he went there.to fullfill his sick need.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 5 лет назад
@Random Person You are of dubious character yourself, clearly... Entirely Random - and without a shred of evidence to support your preposterous claims.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 5 лет назад
@Random Person ...."it's fairly known that Lawrence was fond of little boys"....That is a claim to me. I think it's spurious - but even were it not I just do not like the slovenly contemporary obsession with attempting to dissect such singularly peculiar men as Lawrence and pontificate (incorrectly) with the benefit of hindsight upon a man's nature without his ability to defend himself - as though wise, judgemental owls. You have not the slightest clue more than any of us about much of what happened during certain dread events the man felt the necessity to obfuscate - or to so perfectly camouflage with such adroit linguistic obscurantism. You are using a cruel, hard lens where common decency (let alone greater accuracy) militates the use of a veil. You are talking about an exceptional hero.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 5 лет назад
@@nathanielbugg7355 ...neither!
@luciusavenus8715
@luciusavenus8715 8 лет назад
David Lean's Lawrence of Arabia is my most favourite film of all time, truly a masterpiece. Totally recommend it to any of those desert-loving Europeans.
@thewalker8599
@thewalker8599 7 лет назад
I think you forgot to mention how Lawrence denied many of the accolades he was offered, and tried to give the Arabs their free Arabia. Anyway, great video.
@organicdudranch
@organicdudranch 5 лет назад
the arabs were lied to.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 5 лет назад
@@organicdudranch Yes... So was Lawrence... And the rest was a kind of agonizing, maniacal, vicious, masochistic suicide run by Lawrence, an extremely courageous individual, to give his life heroically to Arab independence - regardless of the fact that he learned from the 'detestables' above him that the rich and greedy vultures far more powerful than he were circling too thick at his back - and that his mission (real victory) would likely (inevitably, perhaps,) be in vain... He did what he could - and more... Anyway, the Arabs were victorious, too, of course - he did not 'win' this for them alone, it goes without saying, but he certainly bloody-well helped them.
@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays
@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays 2 года назад
He did refuse the Companion of the Bath order - quite a senior award from the Crown. He embarrassed the King because he only made his refusal at the investiture ceremony. If he had refused it beforehand, then the King would not have known about the protest and why Lawrence was turning it down as the politicians and civil servants would have lied to the King about the true reasons. It was incredibly brave of him to do this as it angered many top politicians as well as people in society who hailed Lawrence as a hero and the 'Uncrowned King of Arabia'. Lawrence wrote about this later on.
@Disappointed739
@Disappointed739 5 лет назад
Lawrence had multiple years of archeological experience in the Middle East prior to the war when he obtained an officer's position in the British army. In rainy seasons he dissapeared into the deserts and Arabic communities, which explained his rather earthy command of Arabic. His lifestyle, shall we say, is thought to have made it difficult for him to remain in Britain. The relationships developed during his archeological trips with the bedouin laid the foundation for his rapport with them later.
@angrydevilgamer2770
@angrydevilgamer2770 7 лет назад
i remember liking the 'Nothing is written' story for battlefield 1 because it showed him really well how he was for the Arabians
@GreasyKing
@GreasyKing 7 лет назад
Isn't there a link between the British actions against the Ottomans, and the desire to create an Israeli state, or at least a Jewish homeland?
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад
Yes. We will talk about it later on.
@duaspontes3716
@duaspontes3716 6 лет назад
Declaration of Balfour comes to mind, alongside european zionist movements
@pfl95
@pfl95 6 лет назад
A lot of the issues that we see today came from disastrous British Imperial foreign policies. That was one of them. I hope TGW and the future WW2 series cover the interwar periods and cover some of the stuff that happened in Israel and Egypt
@mshaid01
@mshaid01 6 лет назад
Was this talked about?
@georgeharrison3726
@georgeharrison3726 6 лет назад
There sure is a link between the Queen's face and Jewish people, lol. The emperor is naked and has a mighty big nose... Lawrence was of Hebrew descent too, btw. British Israelism is a reality.
@MrZuhahaha
@MrZuhahaha 8 лет назад
I wish you gave information about horrible things done to Ottoman soldiers by arab tribes. One of the incidents for example , a tribe was convinced by the English that the Ottoman soldiers retreating from the city swallowed all the gold in the city, so the tribes caught them at night and opened the unarmed soldiers' stomachs with knives and swords.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+MrZuhahaha Hey, we barely started our videos of the Arab Revolt. This was only the beginning.
@nikncip4806
@nikncip4806 6 лет назад
The Great War It says a lot about your biases that you accept a tale that a youtube troll pulls from his large intestine as funny or factual.
@archstanton6102
@archstanton6102 6 лет назад
@@koksalceylan1088 You clearly have no understanding of history to make those statements. Try reading a book
@pithecophagajefferyi7460
@pithecophagajefferyi7460 5 лет назад
that's hillarious
@johnzamer3142
@johnzamer3142 4 года назад
@@TheGreatWar yea how dare you depict those responsible for starvation of half of lebanon and extermination of armenia as the bad guys
@kagi95
@kagi95 8 лет назад
Most of the anti-Arab sentiments of Ataturk were based in his experience fighting in the middle east and seeing how the Turkish soldiers were treated by the populace and the enemy, and the atrocities they committed against the Turkish officers sometimes with the hopes of collecting pay from the Allies. This probably helped cemented his later goals of distancing the new Republic from the Arab world by many means including alphabet and culture.
@kaczynskis5721
@kaczynskis5721 5 лет назад
The second largest ethnic group in the Ottoman army was Arab. As the war went on the Arabs became increasingly unreliable. The Turkish language was reformed and the alphabet changed - so much that only specialists can read Ottoman literature and documents, and even Atatürk's speeches are difficult for modern Turks to understand, because of runaway language change, the removal of many Arabic and Persian words and the coining of new Turkic ones.
@Sadoyasturadoglu
@Sadoyasturadoglu 4 года назад
@@kaczynskis5721 In fact, this varies according to the author, many texts dating from the 14th to 15th centuries belonging to a historian or folk poet are easily understood for modern Turkish speakers, on the other hand, the writings of a religious text or Divan poet are very difficult to understand, even if they belong to the 19th century. You're right about the script, a modern speaker can't read any text without learning the old alphabet.
@davidsigalow7349
@davidsigalow7349 3 года назад
One of the most significant takeaways from this most excellent series is how, more than one hundred years later, we are still living in the world that was shaped by The Great War.
@sarpbakrsoy8125
@sarpbakrsoy8125 4 года назад
Teacher: "Ok, kids. Today we're going to learn about T.E. Lawrence and the Arab Revolt." Me: *"AS THE DARKNESS FALLS, AND ARABIA CALLS, ONE MAN SPREADS HIS WINGS, AS THE BATTLE BEGINS!"*
@icy9793
@icy9793 3 года назад
😂😂
@patrickallen8787
@patrickallen8787 8 лет назад
I'm a big fan of HISTORY BUFFS thanks to this channel!!! Watched two episodes the other day and loved them!
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+Patrick Allen Yes, Nick is doing a great job.
@bingoking7589
@bingoking7589 8 лет назад
What a coincidence, History Buffs led me here.
@Mankorra_Gomorrah
@Mankorra_Gomorrah 8 лет назад
Extra history brought me here all those moons ago.
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog
+Patrick Allen Both channels manage to be highly entertaining and interesting at the same time; every time. They both seem to have a knack for presenting incredibly complex and *vast* topics - _in every sense of the word_ - in a comprehensible and digestible manner. I'm loving every second of it :D. * Kissing so much ass right now * While I'm at it, let me just say that TGW and History Buffs have given me quite the enthusiasm for history! I have a mate who's into history but never really talked with him about it because history was beyond me. Nowadays, I can actually contribute something to a historical discussion..! If only the Italians could do the same, a hundred years ago... Keep up the good stuff!
@brettd2308
@brettd2308 8 лет назад
+risker34 Extra History brought me here as well, and then I discovered History Buffs independently. Been so uplifting to see this network of history channels coming together on the net :)
@VSO_Gun_Channel
@VSO_Gun_Channel 7 лет назад
Just love this channel
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад
+The VSO Gun Channel thanks
@frankrichardson7802
@frankrichardson7802 3 года назад
Great channel. Very practical.
@lazertaco9755
@lazertaco9755 7 лет назад
History buffs is how I found this channel
@graced.7236
@graced.7236 8 лет назад
Thanks Indy - that was wonderful. You guys supplied a lot of photos and some that were truly original. The Scottish clan story at the end was way wild. So original and very interesting. I've been waiting for this since you guys started and you did a fabulous job!!!!
@Wombat-gm4ne
@Wombat-gm4ne 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for an absolutely fantastic series on WW1. Another extraordinary person was Gertrude Bell and English woman that explored much of the Arabian area often on camel back prior to WW1 and drew many of the maps. Bell was appointed an officer in British military intelligence and was part of the British armies "Arab Bureau" based in Ciaro. Bell was sent to India to convince the Vice-Roy to collaborate with the Arabs with the British "Indian Army" fighting the Turks in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq) she convinced the Vice - Roy who then sent her to Basra to advise the British Generals she ultimately became the British Chief political advisor in Baghdad. Bell founded the Baghdad achelogical museum and is still well respected in Baghdad to this day.
@aljonzc
@aljonzc 8 лет назад
I was watching History Buff when Indy appeared, since then I knew this episode was coming.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+Smiling Knight Haha, hope it was worth the wait.
@G4r0s
@G4r0s 8 лет назад
+The Great War Omg, so awesome you did this collaboration. I was holding off on the History Buffs episode but when I saw this video I got my hopes and was not disappointed! Best history youtube channel ever! (even better than Crash Course history ;)
@grimaldus1523
@grimaldus1523 8 лет назад
+The Great War You did a top 11 dumbest moves of the War Can you do a top 11 smartest MOves of the war
@Sputnick68
@Sputnick68 7 лет назад
Great work, Indy and the others! However, the reason why the Sykes-Picot treaty caused so much trouble is not that the borders disregarded ethnic lines. It was because it disregarded popular will in the Arab world. The Arabs wanted complete independence, unity and no Zionist colonisation of Palestine. The Sykes-Picot treaty, together with the Balfour declaration, meant they actually got the opposite - foreign rulers, divided Arab territories and Zionist colonisation of Palestine. These are the roots of the current mess in the Middle East.
@nikncip4806
@nikncip4806 6 лет назад
This s the best comment here, including all of my own. The King- Crane Commission's findings confirm what you have written regarding the popular will for ndependence and unity of the entire Arabic speaking region of the former empire.
@Ericisnotachannel
@Ericisnotachannel 8 лет назад
I love how The Great War is interconnecting different channels.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+Eric It's a lot of fun for us too.
@Exodon2020
@Exodon2020 4 года назад
Little did Indy know that he'd one day come to play Lawrence of Arabia in a Power Metal Music Video
@ianbabcock6802
@ianbabcock6802 8 лет назад
I think the head of the British India Office said that an independent Arab state could be worse than a Turkish Empire.
@zaidjarrar8796
@zaidjarrar8796 7 лет назад
Ibrahim well the rashidin, ummyad, abbasids were all Arabic khilafat and were greater than the Ottomans. in the reign of the Ottomans they didn't even know how to organize tax paying. the only reason people know the Ottomans and have interest in them is because it's the most recent one
@zaidjarrar8796
@zaidjarrar8796 7 лет назад
Ibrahim well the rashidin, ummyad, abbasids were all Arabic khilafat and were greater than the Ottomans. in the reign of the Ottomans they didn't even know how to organize tax paying. the only reason people know the Ottomans and have interest in them is because it's the most recent one
@user-mg8fy5lr8d
@user-mg8fy5lr8d 4 года назад
@@zaidjarrar8796 you cant stick around for more than 6 hundred years without a solid administration and knowladge of "tax collecting". Ottoman Empire is the longest lived muslim Empire by far. İt had many faults but it was founded in middle ages and collapsed at the end of ww1. You gotta give some credit.
@Kinglorrecom
@Kinglorrecom 8 лет назад
Its great that you're still doing collaborations! Great job as always Great War! Pfff that was a close one. Could've broken my tongue with that one.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+Kinglorre We have some more planned in the upcoming months.
@Kinglorrecom
@Kinglorrecom 8 лет назад
The Great War Great!
@hammer326
@hammer326 5 лет назад
What a great video to watch in the wake of the new Sabaton album today.
@timdewit6088
@timdewit6088 8 лет назад
Great anecdote at the end! In a way, it kind of reminds me of Idi Amin, who claimed to be the last King of Scotland. Goes to show the Scots have quite some prestige around the world xD
@luisa.melendezalbizu4459
@luisa.melendezalbizu4459 8 лет назад
Now that TGW has discussed the Sykes-Picot Agreement and the Arab Revolt, it is time to discuss the role of the House of Saud in Britain's plan for the Middle East. The House of Saud originated in Riyadh, which is part of the Nejd (the eastern part of the peninsula). The House of Saud created a kingdom in the 18th along with its Wahhabi (extreme Sunni clerics) supporters. That was crushed, first by the Ottomans and later in 1818 by the Ottoman viceroy of Egypt, Mohammed Ali Pasha. A much smaller second "Saudi state", located mainly in Nejd, was established in 1824. Throughout the rest of the 19th century, the Al Saud contested control of the interior of what was to become Saudi Arabia with another Arabian ruling family, the Al Rashid, which ruled from the northern city of Ha'il. By 1891, the Al Rashid were victorious and the Al Saud were driven into exile in Kuwait. At the beginning of the 20th century, the Ottoman Empire continued to control or have a suzerainty over most of the Arabian Peninsula. Subject to this suzerainty, Arabia was ruled by a patchwork of tribal rulers, with the Sharif of Mecca having pre-eminence and ruling the Hejaz (the western part of the Peninsula where Mecca and Medina are located). In 1902, Abdul Aziz-later to be known as Ibn Saud-recaptured control of Riyadh bringing the Al Saud back to the Nejd. Ibn Saud gained the support of the Ikhwan, a tribal army inspired by Wahhabism and led by Faisal Al-Dawish, and which had grown quickly after its foundation in 1912. With the aid of the Ikhwan, Ibn Saud captured Al-Ahsa from the Ottomans in 1913. Ibn Saud continued its war against the Al-Rashid, and later turned against Kuwait. Eventually the British forced Ibn Saud to sign the Treaty of Darin, whereby the lands of the House of Saud became a British protectorate. The British aim of the treaty was to guarantee the sovereignty of Kuwait, Qatar and the Trucial States. Ibn Saud agreed not to attack British protectorates, but gave no undertaking that he would not attack the Sharif of Mecca. This treaty opened the door to the British to play Ibn Saud against the Sharif of Mecca. In 1916, with the encouragement and support of Britain (which was fighting the Ottomans in World War I), the Sharif of Mecca, Hussein bin Ali, led a pan-Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire to create a united Arab state. After two years of fighting, the Sharif of Mecca entered Damascus in October 1918. Meanwhile, Ibn Saud avoided involvement in the Arab Revolt, and instead continued his struggle with the Al Rashid. The Sharif of Mecca had agreed to the Arab Revolt with Britain, in exchange for an independent Arab Kingdom that would encompass Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq and the Arabian Peninsula. However, the he was double crossed by the British. The British and the French had already signed their secret Sykes-Picot Agreement dividing the Middle East among them, and granting Jews the right to return to Palestine as agreed with British Zionists (which would later become the Balfour Declaration of 1919). The British always knew that they had to look for a way to get rid of the Sharif of Mecca. So in 1918-1919, Saud forces (with the help of the British) attacked the Hejaz and almost conquered it. A truce was negotiated by the British, which allowed the Saud forces to concentrate in conquering Al Rashid lands. Following the final defeat of the Al Rashid in the conquest of Ma'il in 1921, Ibn Saud took the title Sultan of Nejd. After his near defeat at the hands of Ibn Saud, the Shariff of Mecca was in no position to demand compliance of the original agreement from the British. Hence, during the Cairo Conference of 1921 he was only recognized as King of the Hejaz, while Ibn Saud was recognized as King of the Nejd. In addition, as a consolation price, the Shariff's son Abdullah was recognized as King of Jordan, while his other son Faisal was recognized as King of Iraq. Syria was kept under French control, and Palestine was to be administered by a Jewish British Commissioner Herbert Samuel. However, the Saud had already granted the British oil concessions in 1923 in exchange for their help in conquering the Hejaz. Hence, in 1924-1925, Ibn Saud, with British help, restarted the war against the Shariff of Mecca. With the help of the Ikhwan and the British, the Hejaz was conquered in 1925. On January 10, 1926, Ibn Saud declared himself King of the Hejaz. After the conquest of the Hejaz, the Ikhwan leadership's objective switched to expansion of the Wahhabist realm into the British protectorates of Transjordan, Iraq and Kuwait, and began raiding those territories. This met with Ibn Saud's opposition, as he recognized the danger of a direct conflict with the British. In 1927 Ibn Saud singed the Treaty of Jeddah with the British, where the United Kingdom recognized the sovereignty of Ibn Saud over both Kingdoms of Hejaz and Nejd. In return, he would stop Ikhwan forces from attacking and harassing neighboring British protectorates. As a result, the Ikhwan turned against Ibn Saud and, after a two-year struggle, were defeated in 1929 at the Battle of Sabilla, where their leaders were massacred. In 1932 the two kingdoms of the Hejaz and Nejd were united as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. As shown, the British played the Shariff of Mecca against the Ottoman Empire, and then played Ibn Saud against the Shariff of Mecca, in part due to the oil concessions granted to them by Ibn Saud, and in part because they needed to get rid of the Shariff.
@neilgrace1221
@neilgrace1221 5 лет назад
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@nigelft
@nigelft 4 года назад
Three years too late ... ... aside from minor typos, that was incredibly informative. I always had a feeling that the reasons why the Middle East was one of the most unstable geopolitical regions, was due to unrestive relations, no less than both Saudi Arabia and Iran. Throw Syria into the mix, and everything has this theme for things turning into a critical mass ... So I knew there was a depth of history there already, but that both us British, and the French got involved _that_ much to me is something new ... so I appreciate the time you took writing out that informative, long form, comment.
@parakum1827
@parakum1827 3 года назад
thank you
@luisa.melendezalbizu4459
@luisa.melendezalbizu4459 3 года назад
@@parakum1827 your welcome
@peggygeren4169
@peggygeren4169 2 года назад
Excellent!
@nhmikey1
@nhmikey1 10 месяцев назад
It's really amazing how much he really does look like Peter O'Toole in the movie.
@jwoldin
@jwoldin 3 года назад
Very interesting biography. Well done. In your list of Lawrence’s accomplishments, you left out one of the most important ones: that he was a brilliant writer, and considered one of the greatest Man of Letters of the 20th century. Seven Pillars of Wisdom was a brilliant work of literature, and his letters of correspondence with George Bernard Shaw’s wife, of whom he had a very close friendship, are brilliantly written and fascinating to read. His legendary status is well deserved.
@Rickinsf
@Rickinsf 8 лет назад
"Lawrence In Arabia," by Scott Anderson is a pretty good read if you're interested in T.E. Lawrence. What piqued my attention was the extent the US was already involved in the region, via Standard Oil.
@S2Sturges
@S2Sturges Год назад
I concur... a fabulously intriguing read....
@luishernandezblonde
@luishernandezblonde 3 года назад
Lawrence of Arabia was also serialised in a Japanese manga back in 1984. You can say he is popular even outside Europe.
@MajesticOak
@MajesticOak 3 года назад
On a side note, I'm pretty sure one of the characters in Gundam Wing is heavily modeled after him. If you watched it you'll know which one I'm talking about.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity 8 лет назад
People are likening the events in Syria and Afghanistan a century ago to what is happening now, and claiming the 'Arab peoples' struck first in what is perceived as one continuous conflict. People are saying that the rebels armed and coerced by Britain were terrorists just like 'ISIS' and deserved to be betrayed. These people need to think out side of what they see on T.V. and realise no one deserves to be killed like they were in that or any war, and no one deserves to be lied to and denied freedom.
@ghostirq
@ghostirq 8 лет назад
Most people don't have the luxury of that way of thinking, so they will believe whatever they see on T.V.
@jif.6821
@jif.6821 8 лет назад
Great episode. "Lawrence of Arabia" one of my favorite movies as a kid. I always thought it a shame how post WWI the European powers (Britain, France) sliced up the former Ottoman territories so haphazardly with so little thought to peoples that lived there. It is a shame that the Kurds had to suffer so much as a people due to this action.
@nikncip4806
@nikncip4806 6 лет назад
Lawrence felt guilty about the betrayal of the Arab Revolt by the British, not about the Revolt itself.
@firebyrd437
@firebyrd437 9 месяцев назад
The British did the same in India. The racist imperialism has never died
@williamheyman5439
@williamheyman5439 6 лет назад
This is very nicely done. And as a retired US Army colonel, and been to the middle east a few times, I appreciated the view on history, which many do not know. You should get an award for this.
@swifty6759
@swifty6759 6 лет назад
William Heyman I totally agree, Sir. And I thank you for your service.
@youaremylifepictures4680
@youaremylifepictures4680 6 лет назад
He wasn't a liar, just exaggerated some of his adventures a little and downplayed some of them a little. Great channel by the way!
@nikncip4806
@nikncip4806 6 лет назад
It sounds like you may have actually read "The Seven Pillars of Wisdom". It is not so much military or political history as it is an impressionistic wartime memoir. There is more political content in the dedication "To S.A." than in the entire body of the book.
@alperenbaser5595
@alperenbaser5595 5 лет назад
He was liar . Divided many ethnicities and still you have such thing as Iraq Syria and Palestine
@MrStig288
@MrStig288 3 года назад
Thank you so much, WW1 has always been such a brow raiser for me. Particularly Laurence. Thank you for the “crash course”. Cheers 🤙🏼
@yaboosnubs
@yaboosnubs 8 лет назад
better call saul you look like, great story you tell
@Adam-ko6dx
@Adam-ko6dx 8 лет назад
Yoda, are you?
@yaboosnubs
@yaboosnubs 7 лет назад
Gaius Octavius incognito i am
@stormbliksem3439
@stormbliksem3439 7 лет назад
Gaius Octavius yoda you are mmmh*
@slick4401
@slick4401 5 лет назад
I've read the book and I had the feeling he was telling an enhanced, ornate version of what he as well as others actually lived through.
@kriticalhit5000
@kriticalhit5000 8 лет назад
"When the legend becomes fact...print the legend."
@nigelft
@nigelft 4 года назад
My favourite quote from one of my favourite Anthony Mann/James Stewart movies: 'The Man who shot Liberty Lawrence' ... Also, iirc, the only movie John Wayne and James Stewart ever starred together in ...
@wcstevens7
@wcstevens7 5 лет назад
Thank you..Colonel Lawrence may have been a bit of a schmoozer, but he was a really tough little man..A real British hero who made history.
@lelouche25
@lelouche25 7 лет назад
Jesus the way they put it, the Ottoman should have stayed in power to keep tg3 middle east from ripping itself apart.
@SomalianDuke
@SomalianDuke 7 лет назад
Yuki Terumi or let them draw countries, based on ethnicities.
@lelouche25
@lelouche25 7 лет назад
Ken Dring indeed, putting people who hate each other togehter doesn't seem like the smartest plan of action lol.
@ALEX-jr1pb
@ALEX-jr1pb 7 лет назад
Yuki Terumi and history took the wrong direction as well the ottaman empire and the germans had everything to win they both were kicking the shit out of the allies and the reason the war happened was bosnia's fault so austro-hungarians were in all right the declare war on them so it was the allies who should have lost becuase of Bosnia
@motorcop505
@motorcop505 7 лет назад
AL EX The Allies did not just enter the war because of the assassination of Arch Duke Ferdinand. The German high command had very elaborate war plans, and essentially forced the country into war. Russia had a pact to defend there fellow Slavs. Likewise, prior defense pacts tied the other allies together, so that once Germany forced the issue the other countries had to enter due to their treaty agreements. The war was solely the fault of the German government, period.
@noslover11
@noslover11 7 лет назад
Yuki Terumi yep the middle east would have been a much better for everyone
@Artbytal
@Artbytal 8 лет назад
Its so weird, I was already part of this circle of history channels and now they are meeting each other and making these links! Its great to see this kind of inter-connectivity between some of my favorite channels on RU-vid!
@hlynnkeith9334
@hlynnkeith9334 8 лет назад
T E Lawrence was a mentally disturbed British officer who happened to be useful to Allenby. Lawrence of Arabia was the product of Lowell Thomas. Surprised that Thomas was not mentioned in this episode.
@graced.7236
@graced.7236 8 лет назад
+h lynn keith Lowell Thomas is in one of the photos with T.E. though. T.E. is in full Arab garb and Mr. Thomas is the chap with the Arab headdress and the army uniform. Good catch about Lawrence being Thomas' creation. Cause he was in fact.
@nikncip4806
@nikncip4806 6 лет назад
What about the many, many other biographers of Lawrence? Did they invent him, too?
@Fox1223
@Fox1223 7 лет назад
Though I've been a fan for months now, It was Nick Hodges/ History Buffs that got me over here! TYVM to both of you for doing what you do/ sharing fans! Since then I am constantly bringing friends over here (got 3 so far that are hooked watching this like me). The 4 of us love your work!
@nev707
@nev707 5 лет назад
Apparently the Australian lighthouse (mounted infantry) arrived at Damascus city hall and accepted the surrender a couple of hours before Faisal and Lawrence arrived to do the same thing, thus stealing Lawrence's thunder.
@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays
@TheGeneralWorldofTanksReplays 2 года назад
I believe that history is contested. Some of Lawrence's Arabs were in the city a day before the Lightfoot and Lawrence himself entered a few hours before the Australians, but they each occupied different parts of the City. Lawrence occupied the town hall as seen in the movie, whilst the Aussies settled elsewhere. It's still debated as to which group took the honors. Suffice to say that the Aussies made fast ground to catch up with the Arabs.
@peggygeren4169
@peggygeren4169 2 года назад
George Antonius is the closest thing to an original source about the Arab Revolt in English. He says that bands of Arab cavalry led by Sharif Nasr, Nuri Sha'lan and Auda Abu Tayyi arrived at thesouthern gates of the city around dusk on the 31st. Nasr sent a scouting party inside. They found the Arab flag already flying at the city hall and they were told that the last Turks had just fled. No historical source records any fighting to take the city by Arabs or Allies. Auda continued around the western side and Nuri around the eastern side. The Aussies met a Moroccan named al Fakhri the next morning who claimed to be the Mayor of Damascus. He also claimed to be an Arab Revolt member. At any rate he had no authority to surrender or to officially welcome, or whatever the Aussies thought he was doing. He was summarily executed by Auda Abu Tayyi not long afterwards for collaborationist actions for the Turks committed during the Arab Revolt.
@harambethegorilla7975
@harambethegorilla7975 8 лет назад
It's amazing when channels do a collaboration like this! Keep its up guys!
@Ben-zh4nz
@Ben-zh4nz 5 лет назад
Kinda cool that I’m almost directly related to him, whoever he really was
@GFSLombardo
@GFSLombardo 5 лет назад
He got "discovered" by Lowell Thomas, became a smash media superstar of the day and the rest as they say, is world and movie history.
@Gothtecdotcom
@Gothtecdotcom 8 лет назад
Read T.E. Lawrence "The Road" (sons of thunder) an awesome account of hisalmost mythical race with a air-plane on a motorcycle, on roads I know well, of my home city.To think that such a great individual rode his bike on the same roads as I ride mine just fills me with glee... he also was a nutter :D
@mikeread9741
@mikeread9741 5 лет назад
Addicted to speed although he stated his motorcycle was his safety valve. His passion for speed was not just restricted to motorcycles.
@andrewmeyer2300
@andrewmeyer2300 8 лет назад
I have been waiting for this coverage of T.E. Lawrence since your series started! Great job, thanks.
@YT-rq9qi
@YT-rq9qi 8 лет назад
Does the T.E. stand for Turk exterminator?
@marshallvorwaerts
@marshallvorwaerts 8 лет назад
Im not turkish but in great front in front offensives the british and arab troops lost like Indy said the only thing they made is to Sack some little states without garisons or trains with goods or little ottoman camps . I think thats a bit cheeky. Themselves had a lot of casualties!
@AimForMyHead81
@AimForMyHead81 8 лет назад
he hardly killed any Turks
@shawngilliland243
@shawngilliland243 5 лет назад
Y T - if only!
@316OBI
@316OBI 8 лет назад
I was so excited when I saw Nick Hodges pop up. I love both "History Buffs" and "The Great War", kudos to both channels and keep up the good work!
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+316OBI Thanks.
@franklinblankenship8991
@franklinblankenship8991 8 лет назад
how about Sgt York? I've only heard of him because of the movie(like Lawrence of Arabia)
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
He will get an episode, probably next year.
@franklinblankenship8991
@franklinblankenship8991 8 лет назад
+The Great War hey thanks for the reply! love the channel...
@STFU768
@STFU768 7 лет назад
cant wait :)
@nikncip4806
@nikncip4806 6 лет назад
This may be the best thing Lawrence ever wrote: To S.A. I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands and wrote my will across the sky in stars To gain you Freedom, the seven pillared worthy house, that your eyes might be shining for me When I came Death was my servant on the road, till we came near and saw you waiting: When you smiled, and in sorrowful envy he outran me and took you apart into his quietness So our love's earnings was your cast off body to be held one moment Before earth's soft hands would explore your face and the blind worms transmute Your failing substance Men prayed me to set my work, the inviolate house In memory of you, But for fit monument I shattered it, unfinished and now The little things creep out to patch themselves hovels In the marred shadow of your gift.
@CornMatterToo
@CornMatterToo 8 лет назад
This is an awesome fucking channel
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
Thanks.
@CornMatterToo
@CornMatterToo 8 лет назад
no p
@sanjayshakya7324
@sanjayshakya7324 7 лет назад
I wаtchеееd Lаwrenсeееe оf Аrаbiа full mоvie hеrе twitter.com/b9619695307c1874c/status/795842029750095872 T E Lаwrеnсе Аnd Hоw Hе Bеcaааamе Lawrеnсссееeе Оf ААrаbiа I WHО DID WHАT IN WW1
@SquareNoggin
@SquareNoggin 8 лет назад
I know this comment probably comes up a lot, but I can't stress enough how much I love this channel. I've been on a shameless binge. It blows my mind that this caliber of historical series is available to all of us for free.
@LaSeiErZhaopian
@LaSeiErZhaopian 8 лет назад
Nice Django Unchained reference
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+Sam Russell Yay, was hoping someone noticed that.
@oza801
@oza801 4 года назад
In turkish there is saying ‘neither the sweets of damascus nor the face of arab ‘ this summaries everything from turkish perspective. I think it should be always remembered as well.
@OldFellaDave
@OldFellaDave 8 лет назад
A couple of things Indy and Crew, if I may ;) 1. Another great episode !! Well done guys. You continue to put out top quality product every week. 2. Lawrence was a gratuitous self promoter. His legend was largely invented by himself 3. The 'Arabs' did bugger all in their revolt. They, as you report - attacked lightly or undefended targets and celebrated great victories. In actual battles they ran, came late (once the battle was decided) or not at all. 4. Australian Light Horse were ordered NOT to take Damascus and instead go around it so that Lawrence and a few Arabs could 'capture' the city in grand style. Unfortunately for history, an Australian Light Horse patrol from the 10th Light Horse Regiment got lost in the streets trying to skirt around and ended up in the City Center and the City Leaders surrendered to Major Arthur Olden ( a dentist from Ballarat in regional Victoria) the officer in charge. Lawrence came in several hours later with some hand picked Arabs, waving their guns around ... only to find out the city had already surrendered to the Aussies. Pissed off would be a massive understatement - so he chose to ignore it and try and re-write history instead, with himself the hero 5. Allenby's Desert Column were the only effective fighting force in the region and was indeed the army that fought and pushed the Turks out of the region. The Arabs contributed absolutely nothing to the war effort or defeat of the Turks. The credit for actually fighting and defeating the Turks has outrageously been stolen from those brave blokes. 6. And this is 'the big one' and extremely important to today, one you guys failed to mention - Lawrence's 'Arabs' were from Saudi Arabia NOT local Arabs. The British gave thrones to these outsiders in whats now Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Iraq. None of these regions existed before as separate entities and all were drawn up without any thought as to regional, religious, societal, cultural or historical differences. 7. Everything that has gone on in the Middle East from late 1918 till today can be laid directly at the feet of Lawrence and the British and their utter stupidity in that carve up of the region and giving power to complete muppets, who did nothing to earn it, from outside the region. TE Lawrence invented his own myth, based on his own self promotion and stole the honour from those brave men who actually earnt it and its been allowed to fester long enough.
@dalemore9645
@dalemore9645 8 лет назад
well said. Lawrence was over rated
@haydonski3452
@haydonski3452 8 лет назад
Very true. They had to retreat because the ottomans destroyed the water and then they had no water for their horses
@dalemore9645
@dalemore9645 8 лет назад
***** in his own mind
@nealbeard1
@nealbeard1 8 лет назад
+Dale More yea that's right just like Montgomery. Bloody septic. You know nothing about him.
@dalemore9645
@dalemore9645 8 лет назад
Neal Beard first of all I'm not a Yank. Second of all state your argument as to what he did that was so great as apposed to just making stupid statements
@johnchambers2996
@johnchambers2996 5 лет назад
Of historical interest is Gertrude Bell, the British anthropologist-historian who explored the region several years before Lawrence and was simply disappeared from this story. She had crossed the Negev desert several times before Lawrence and Lawrence knew this fact, unlike what was shown in the movie. The disturbing fact is that she is hardly even mentioned in his book when she was actually the pioneer.
@_oldgamer30
@_oldgamer30 2 года назад
T.E. Lawrence was a British agent, his aim was to revolt the Arabs against the Ottoman Empire, and the Arabs, who felt like captives and wanted their freedom back, believed this man. The Arabs thought that this was done for their own benefit, but it did not happen. The aim was to completely destroy the Ottoman empire. After the events were over, Lawrence of Arabia somehow escaped from there. The Arabs realized later that they were playing a big game. The British and the French got their share of the pie. So what happened to the Arabs? They paid dearly for the consequences of believing a liar.
@davidparry8514
@davidparry8514 5 лет назад
Gertrude Bell is a fascinating player in this story
@robertbell4439
@robertbell4439 5 лет назад
Generally unknown but when you read her history in the Middle East she played just as big part as Lawrence
@whiterunguard4156
@whiterunguard4156 4 года назад
It’s been confirmed, Indy is Lawrence of Arabia
@overipecanine1485
@overipecanine1485 8 лет назад
Ive been waiting for you to do an episode on Lawrence, Thanks Indy!
@Swatyo
@Swatyo 8 лет назад
totalbiscuit spoke about this channel, after the first video i''ve seen, i became a subscriber
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
Welcome to our show!
@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg
@UCvow2TUIH0d2Ax2vik9ILzg 8 лет назад
Oh hey. Same here. I heard TB mention it on the podcast and praise it as a great channel, and was very interested, so I googled it. Now I'm hooked.
@guidozama884
@guidozama884 7 лет назад
Swatyo
@michaelkadunce3155
@michaelkadunce3155 6 лет назад
Swatyo.
@jamesunderhillunderhill2623
@jamesunderhillunderhill2623 8 лет назад
Its so awesome that I discovered both your channels around the same time. I really appreciate the collaboration between two of my favorite channels.
@sergentsaucisse8290
@sergentsaucisse8290 8 лет назад
the film was awesome though
@jimmypatterson9472
@jimmypatterson9472 6 лет назад
TheFrenchCake it is a great movie.
@jpmnky
@jpmnky Год назад
I love your collaboration with History Buffs. That guy could post something everyday and it wouldn’t be enough for us fans.
@TheKeyser94
@TheKeyser94 8 лет назад
The modern Robin Hood that aftermath betrayed the same people that he helped in favour of the nobles.
@BlackAssassin1223
@BlackAssassin1223 8 лет назад
true
@tischlerandreas
@tischlerandreas 8 лет назад
I was waiting for this episode ever since I the History Buff episode about Lawrence of Arabia. Great collaborations you guys built across RU-vid :-)
@Brandon210-q4n
@Brandon210-q4n 8 лет назад
History Buffs sent me. Not disappointed. Subbed..
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+Brandon Korner Welcome to our show
@dryalga4000
@dryalga4000 2 месяца назад
It is really funny in hindsight to hear Indy talk about T.E. Lawrence (and later Adrian Carter De Wiart), not knowing that he will later play these same characters in Sabaton video clips.
@jondavies9162
@jondavies9162 6 лет назад
I would like to ask you to do a bio video on Harry Patch, the last surviving British soldier of WWI.
@alitlweird
@alitlweird 5 лет назад
Can’t really use “mythical” to describe Lawrence of Arabia. He was the real deal. He was *_Legendary_*
@JeanLucPicard85
@JeanLucPicard85 8 лет назад
What about Neidell of India?
@kaiserreichempireofohio834
@kaiserreichempireofohio834 6 лет назад
Why.
@benmcfee
@benmcfee 6 лет назад
The name "Neidell" kind of sounds like it should be a river in India.
@vinayseth1114
@vinayseth1114 6 лет назад
+benmcfee Nope it doesn't.
@amitabhakusari2304
@amitabhakusari2304 6 лет назад
benmcfee I don't think so, but then again I know only 2 of 22 official languages. So....
@renel8964
@renel8964 6 лет назад
Right
@PanzerIVAE
@PanzerIVAE 8 лет назад
I knew this episode was just around the corner after I watched Historybuffs and how you guys made a collaboration with him :D
@captainandthelady
@captainandthelady 8 лет назад
Thought I'd let you know that I went over to the "History Buffs" channel, liked it and signed up. Thanks for the heads up.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
+captainandthelady Cool!
@Aipe97
@Aipe97 8 лет назад
yay random cameo of history buffs, i was going to watch their video after this one without knowing you had colaborated
@AhmadAbdurrahiem
@AhmadAbdurrahiem 8 лет назад
OMG! this guy mention Palestine instead of Israel! what a true historian
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад
Note that we are not using it because it was not established back then. We still support the right of Israel to exist.
@AhmadAbdurrahiem
@AhmadAbdurrahiem 8 лет назад
The Great War well that's just prove that Israel did not exist back then
@taysachs6951
@taysachs6951 8 лет назад
And neither did any arab state. Smartest thing would have been to kill Faisal and rest of the Hashemites and than shoot zios as well.
@AhmadAbdurrahiem
@AhmadAbdurrahiem 8 лет назад
Tay Sachs haha you really like to live savagely
@victimofchungus2039
@victimofchungus2039 6 лет назад
Ahmad Abdurrahiem Israel existed thousands of years before Islam even existed
@TheAnatolians
@TheAnatolians 7 лет назад
As a Turk, I respect everyone's right to have an own state. To live in freedom and be independence. Even we had to fight for our indepence after WW1. But we never accepted any help from other countries such as the league of nations mandate.. instead of being a mandate, we knew that the "Independence of the nation can be saved only by determination and faith of it." (third article of the "Amasya Circular") To me the arab revolt seems to be a "fight for freedom" that was simply given, not taken.
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