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Don't understand the Zieten call personally, 1.7 sigma 3x2 main guns v Bismark 1.8 sigma 4x2 main guns, yes Zieten has torps but they are so slow that if you get hit there is probably something wrong with you... Zieten's 32mm deck makes it an easy target for carriers especially with the limited dcp charges. Respectfully suggest Bismark belongs in B instead of Zieten imo.
@@anubhavdassarma7230 nah. I mean, if you play it like a soviet, sure, nose in. Or kite veeeery tightly. So, all in all, frustrating because the guns are retarded.
I think that these rankings you do are possibly one of my favorite videos you make. Hearing your opinions here is quite valuable and interesting! - Although I do not play this game anymore. I miss this game, but I just don't wish to put myself through the current meta's torture....
Atago is just so good at saving star too, If you notice your teammate bring many questionable ship like Shimanto or Kansas, Just run to a weak flank and start kiting. The chance of you saving star is pretty high
Both videos timed perfectly. Ranked out of Bronze right before T6 was posted…and ranked out of Silver last night, in line with this video coming out today
41:00 Watched the whole thing Flamu to make sure I bring some level of competence to ranked matches. Thank you for the time you put into making the list.
I thought that Alabama was going to be in a better position, because from what I understand, that BB has better aim from afar than Massachusetts, as a sniper it works well and hits very hard and its ship structure is similar to Massachusetts
Flamu, if you are enjoying one of my favorite alcohol-free beers from my home country please make sure to use an appropriate beer mug:) . Krombacher also sells them ;) PS: if you should have the opportunity, try an alcohol-free Maisel's Weisse.
This was an entertaining video to listen to, Flamu. Nice background sound while I do other things. I agree with a bunch of these. Others, I just don't know about since I quit after commander rework. Thank you for the content!
45:55 That IS a rare case of Historical Accuracy, Eugen had 10 to 30mm added to plating and Bulkheads. Kinda like Molotov vs Kirov where Molotov got +20mm belt, which is historically what those ships were built like.
Anhalt may be D in ranked but it’s very armored with tiny superstructure for a German BB and plays like a tanky slow mecklenburg. HE spam from range 21 km base. With a 15+ point captain you can have fun in it, people often don’t know what it’s capable of.
Charles Martel really surprised during the silver ranked phase. Speedy and Maneuverable, and you back it up with its HE and Reload Booster and it is such an easy win.
Bama brings more than a Torp belt. Good old Bama brings the NC guns (Almost the same sigma) and a tough armour. It was my T8 Bayern. Bama was a very reliable and versatile ship, working well at long distances, medium distances and short distances. Bama was the ship that filled the gap left open by two ships at the same time (NC and Massa). I never relied on the torp belt, but i relied on the main guns and manoeuvrability . There you go, one more thing you could say about Bama. Just saying...
4:40 Kaga has T7 planes. Yes, they are squishy. 29:10 Tallinn got reload, accuracy, AND raw pen buffs. 36:50 How broken is Chkalov? 4k base xp game here ----> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--P38Tw76Xtw.html 41:00 Due Diligence done 43:15 Listening to the comments about Mainz and waiting patiently for Bayard........ 1:08:30 Bayard, for me, would be S tier. It makes up for all the weaknesses of the Mainz. Great speed, great DPM, better stealth than Mainz, RB, hydro, long range torps, improved pen. Bayard is a monster. 1:09:40 Fun Fact: Champagne has the second highest AP pen in the game. Only Slava has higher pen.
I just started playing in the middle of May 2024. My highest tiered ship is the Hawke T8 BB. My citadel has caused my early death over and over. Also, the superstructure is like cardboard... I found it hard to play, but in all fairness, I do suck at WOW😅😅😅 I get too aggressive, which is a bad move with UK BBs.
I mean massa is easy s but idk about that citadel thing I have been citadeled multiple times in it already even by a ziten by that might be my rng who knows
Flandre has 50mm side armor plating while Alsace has 32. Flandre 1 less tier has better armor then tier9 Alsace or the tier10 Bourgogne. Btw if we talk about secondary power Brandenburg has the most number of secondaries of any tier8 German battleship, 16 guns: 10 105mm, 6 150mm per side.
Nebraska is pretty strong in ranked. I got 9 wins out of 10 battles. You don't really deal much damage but it just so happens that the team wins more often. Finishing targets that are low and try to run away, or spot dds, or finish dds that are low, to give your team advantage, or set people on fire after they DCP, it's really strong for ranked.
Kii is easily 'S' tier in T8 ranked. I use it with a hybrid secondary build which means that I have two Akizukis strapped on its sides with insane fire rate. I destroy the Massa 8 times out of 10 - even without my 10 km torps. I have several ranked krakens with the Kii. Strong main guns, insane secondaries, torps and usable AA.
Holy, i'm struggling so much with Zieten that it makes me question my life choices, team dies so fast for me to do anything then i'm forced to push as the last 2-3 standing and can do a bit, but just get obliterated. Budyonny was fun, had a 75% win rate, now with zieten its 30% and i dont even consider Amagi, she is so bad its not even logical. hopefully chapayev can change that
Exactly. Flamu plays to do damage, not win games. Doing damage CORRELATES to winning games, but it is not the same thing. This becomes painfully clear with DDs. Everyone has had those games where the DD on your flank is either blissfully smoked up or just completely leaves you to go to their favorite camping spot. Leaving the enemy DD completely uncountered right off the bat and doing basically no spotting for you. When you play to win games, the Harekaze goes to S-tier and the Ballsack... I mean Crossack... goes to B-tier at best. (It's not as bad as when it was first released, but it's not a DD I give a second look unless I have a ship-specific bonus to get by playing it.) A bad game in my Lightning is often more enjoyable than most decent games in the Crossack IMHO. How Flamu plays isn't "wrong", but it is sometimes counterproductive to actually winning. Especially in a DD and ESPECIALLY if you don't have Flamu's level of skill.
Borodino's guns are not bad. It might only have six, but they are still Russian 406's and hit really hard and are way more accurate the the Vladivostok plus they reload two seconds faster. Not quite as tanky, but still a fun ship.
May I ask what makes the Baltimore better at pushing in and nose tanking than the Tallinn? Baltimore has no icebreaker and is plated in 27 when all BBs have 16 inch shells, compared to at least Tallinn has an icebreaker. I'm not saying Baltimore doesn't do it well I'm just wondering why Tallinn isn't at least considered equal. I'm actually asking not just complaining, also yes I saw the part where you said any A tier can be elevated to S if you have hands, to me Tallinn just requires less hands than Baltimore, maybe it's a playstyle thing.
Baltimore is way more maneuverable, has better concealment to sneak up close, has better reload and has two thirds of her firepower forward (instead of 50%). Tallinn has the icebreaker and the extremely short range torpedoes. Personally, I feel more comfortable pushing in when playing Baltimore.
@@BruceRKF Tallinn also trades that Icebreaker for 25mm nose, sides and stern. (also a more thinly armored cit, cant off the top of my head tell if theres important thresholds there, apart from parts being overmatchable)
My top 3 rank: 1. Kagero, 2. Baltimore, 3. Akizuki. Don't know why, but with Kagero I have highest win rate. 76% in random and this season ranked 100% (but only 3 of 3). It has 5.4km conc and in gun fight I try turn perfect back = small siluet and 2/3 of guns. This ship is king of scouting :)
I think the Kii's secondaries were really downplayed. I've had quite a few games were they either secured important kills at the last second or straight did more damage than my main battery, because japanese dispersion.
They're really good indeed. I run full secondary build with IFHE and I got some nice 74% WR in ranked. You know there's a red flag when Flamu says "What's this ship again?". Almost sure he's gonna forget about an important detail or talk out of his ass.
Have been taking provit from these classifying sessions for years now, but since almost every gd ranked game with a even tier has a damned CV in it AA might be a leading characteristic? Even if these OP deamons break through it nontheless, every plane that goes down cant hit you.
i find it funny that speed scrolling through, i just happened to stop on the comment about it! anyway, must get on to the end now (i will be playing lightning at T8).
"You don't want to build for secondaries on Japanese battleships." Erm Flamu, this is the Kii's gimmick... With a full secondary build it does fantastic in ranked. Also you're downplaying Amagi's survivability. It's pretty good actually. Completely underestimating Harekaze II's strength, as usual. 5km hydro on a ship with 5.4km concealment is a fantastic utility. "But muh HE dpm." It's a torpedo boat. I like Shimanto and I think you're being too harsh but... it's a C tier maybe? Yeah I'm not gonna try to defend the ship too much there, they nerfed these too hard during development. :/
Interesting that Flamu usually doesnt analize hispanic ships. Spanish or Latinoamerican. It looks like this nations dont exist for him. May be in a future. If so, thank you in advance.
Sry Asahio ist the best :-) 5.4 Steahlt outspot all . All Time 1-3 BB in the Game 3-5 Torps Hits Shoot the DD and your are 1 ^^ in the Team - I see the DD with RPF first 2 Salves and he lost 5 K - 7 K ..Smoke he is blind ..i go out of the Smoke and the Distance ...next 2 Shoots he lost next Life..esay Win. Last game a Akizuki with a 67 & Win Rate Player with 2381 Xp lost vs me .
Vanguard gets the same dispersion as Warspite and Ohio btw. Its not much better than normal but it is a slight advantage. Too bad it has only 380s and 8 of them at t8 on top of the dogshit turret angles
That poor ship, I had a game where I just bullied one in my Congress because he forgot he couldn't overmatch my nose. We did a drive by and I slapped the crap out of him while taking moderate-ish damage, and finished him with a booty citadel afterwards.
