Taiwan Just Isn’t The Same Anymore 

Taiwan may change, but Prozzie still has a hangover.

Heyy come on! The nightlife in Taiwan is not about night club and drinking! It's having a late dinner in the night market, going prawn fishing for some snacks at 12am, singing in a local KTV until dawn, having a big breakfast at 四海豆漿, and finally calling it a day by watching local seniors exercising in the park peacefully.

I'm loving the dynamic Prozzie. This is why I followed all of you, just to hear a couple of dudes talking about the cool parts of living out here. Not for drama ,or controversy or any of the clickbait that some channels seem to be going for lately. I'll be joining your patreon soon. Thanks for keeping it real.

I lived in Taichung 2009-2010. I left in May 2010 to move back to Canada and I think the fire was a couple months later. That was at Ala, a place we used to go to a couple times a month. Incredible cover band that used to play there every night. The nightlife was indeed amazing, but we were young, living in Asia so of course we were having a great time. My friends who I kept in contact with who were still living in Taichung said the entire nightlife scene shut down overnight. So unfortunate..

I just got back from my 2nd visit to Taiwan, and I'm in love with the country. I've lived in Vietnam for 3 and a half years and Taiwan is such a great change from the bullshit of Vietnam. It's great being able to walk around, not hearing car horns and getting hit by people driving on the pavement. Didn't even notice the air pollution, the air pollution in Hanoi is so shit.

Everybody is nostalgic about the good old days because back then, they were YOUNG.

Glad to see you've passed 50k. Not long ago u had 30k so something must've happened but its well deserved despite your lazy personality (just like me). You just really deserve it dude. Keep it coming now and you can definitely make a good living of your channel mate. You make great content, not just for people living in Taiwan or China but everyone living in eastern/southeastern Asia as its all extremely similar, a lot more than you think. Its a lot to relate to.

Prozzie, I met a Czech engineer working on the coal fired power plants and he was saying that a lot of the older ones are being decommissioned due to their emissions of pollutants and their general lack of efficiency. New coal fired power stations are being built with far higher efficiency but also with new processes and systems to reduce pollutants to near zero. He did mention that the new coal fired stations do still emit CO2 (not a pollutant, it is a greenhouse gas - the terminology is clearly defined as pollutants have a direct health impact, CO2 has a direct environmental impact) but are nowhere near as bad as before. His view along with mine (I am a mech engineer too) is that modern nuclear power production is really the only way to go forward though as they are far, far more safer than they were many years ago when the original nuclear power plants were built (these days CAD/CAM/CAE plays a major part) and much more efficient, making more use of the fissile material - not withstanding the fact that it can all be reprocessed (mostly in the UK funnily enough.) A lot of city pollutants will come directly from traffic, and in Taipei's case Songshan Airport is smack bang in the middle of Taipei. The switch to electric scooters really can't come soon enough. Taxi's buses and cars need to at the very least switch over to hybrid.

I do love living in Taichung and the vibe of the city, but the pollution definitely bothers me. The dog adoption area near People's Park is amazing and is where both of my dogs came from.

Parents paying $28k a year for International School! Teachers, “yeah we’re really tourists and hungover 😵”

This is basically your own version of ADV China. You two make great hosts.

MORE Alan&Prozzie please ! Prozzie, this is your best episode, yet ! You two could be the next ADV !!!! Stay Awesome

Better late than never ...... 😉

Prozzie, people may want to know more about the life in Canada, can you make a video about the life in Canada vs Taiwan?

Nice team up!! I like this dude.

Wow .. Sooo much to talk/ comment about on your video. I was there 20 years ago, '99'-00, The English teachers I worked with at our cram school mostly tried to take the profession seriously, one was a grad Linguist student. I worked for a fairly reputable 'bushiban', Kojen English (ELSI-Taiwan, at the time). As for the Taiwanese that I hung out with ... most welcomed Westerners/USA/North Americans. They mostly spoke American English. They also wanted to favor the West to get on it's good side in case of any conflicts with 'Big Brother' (PRC). From what I've seen in return visits is that Taipei has just gotten to be a BIG International/ Expensive city ! I'd probably prefer Kaohsiung or Taichung or Hualien. I have plans to return the last Sat. of Oct. for a certain festival in Taipei ;-)

Foreigners, complaining that there are too many foreigners.

You guys make a great entertaining duo. Love the content which is always fun. 😀 you’re observations on Taiwan are spot on. Been going there nearly 15 years or so and have seen many changes over the years. Keep up the good work Prozzie and Allan 🙏

6:22! I know this songggg 4 years ago when I was traveling in Taiwan, they played Eric Chou's songs EVERYWHERE! Especially ni hao bo hao.. i love this song.💟

Congratz on your new boyfriend, but I gotta say Christine was quite a bit cuter :)

Get the pollution app on your phone. It will give you the particulate measurements of all areas of your city and other cities.

Being a teacher is a noble undertaking. You influence the citizens of the future. I know it's hard work. Thank you for taking it seriously.

Prozzie: "i need a video idea" clicks on M13s RU-vid channel Prozzie: '" it's not copying if i spin differently"

Love you guys use easy English conversion to let us learning English listening.😘💕

Yeah, after that nightclub fire, Taichung mayor Jason Hu shut down all the clubs, and then went after all the bars, and even started going after convenience stores that let people drink on their property. It was a puritanical rampage. Taichung is finally recovering.

Prozzie, you make learning fun.

When you coming to Australia? Bring the adv crew.

Prozzie, I just watched your other video about going to the US. It's interesting to learn that Canadians have such a stereotype about Americans. Now I know why some comments are shouting "People from the US are not the only 'AMERICANS'! They shouldn't call themselves Americans." Yes, there are lots of stupid people and smart people everywhere in any country. Americans happen to have a very loud, colorful, party style of life mostly. Canadians, according to your descriptions, have more like a Zen style of life. Being an Aisan myself, I have to tell you the bad news is most Asians probably think Canadians and Americans are the same. I hope you enjoy your trip to San Diego, a lovely lovely city. I love In-N-Out burger. Make sure you also try Shake Shack. Have fun!!

我同意6:39左右開始Prozzie說的。我們懷念過往的日子，儘管經過混亂的政治，人民還是對未來懷有希望，當然對從事教育者的個人行為檢視也變得比較嚴格。

Prozzie underscore 86?!

Keep Taiwan Taiwanese doesn't mean that you can't have cultural exchange. It means that Taiwanese must remain predominant because only they can express Taiwanese culture to the world; only one culture can maintain unity among peoples. We're well into a period of multiculturalism and to remain completely oblivious to the factious nature of having different groups of significant size, occupying a space, is incredibly shortsighted. Making appeals to the convenience of having that one random minority that's keen to delve into a culture they're foreign to, and assimilate, and subsequently find exchange with, is nonsensical. Multiculturalism is having that one random minority bringing a sizeable population that can effectively cordon off sections of an area, and designate them to be expressive of their culture and idiosyncrasies. It no longer becomes an exchange, but a political struggle to maintain the unique cultural expressions. You see this now in London. Now Denmark. Muslims are vying for a Sharia compliant state to maintain their cultural uniqueness - nothing to do with assimilation and equivalent exchange. Even if exchange were equivalent, then it's merely destructive to the home culture, rendering their ability to sustain themselves feeble. Multiculturalism that people clamor on about *has* to call for the yielding of foundations predicated on history and ancestry, all precedence, to a newly established minority; they have to have equal cultural importance, or you're a racist or whatever nonsense. Multiculturalism results in nothing but ethnic warfare. Groups will either fight to main their cultures or they will destroy their cultures. We'll either have ethnic conflict or turn into grey blobs, always seeking for the next fleeting exchange - always pursuing change for change's sake, and never finding anything meaningful and lasting. What a depressive existence people are trying to conjure up. To destroy a happily homogeneous country to experiment with a monochromatic, globalist religion of cultural death. You can have foreign people living in you country, but the amount must be controlled. Multiculturalism does not work - it is quite literally against the tribal nature of man. There must always be a predominant group to quell the urge of politicizing minority culture. And we already live in a rainbow - it's called Earth. Like a rainbow, there are clearly defined colors, and peripheral fluidity does not render these distinct colors fluid. You can have sprinkling of foreigners, but it doesn't mean we should now make countries indistinct and fluid.

Allen, I'm so happy that you made that comment" how boring that would be if the rainbow would be just one color"!!!! The world is changing! Some places faster than others and hopefully for the better! Here in America some say we are becoming more and more ethnically diverse and browner! Our parents and their generation are mostly gone. Our generation and grandchildren are mix racially! The future is definitely brighter and more diverse and will continue to change and evolve. This is my opinion!

Nice one. Great topic. I'm finally getting a taste for Taiwan.

Heard news that Taichung is having a severe air pollution, is it true?

One thing that annoys me about the western perception of east asia is a lot of people who are like "we're not racist like those asians who want their country to stay homogeneous" (which is largely not the common opinion) while ignoring the fact that we have tons of people in the west with equally racist beliefs.

Just saying that cuz u lost ur job and gf. You’ve only been there a year, how would u know the difference

Best couple on RU-vid

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You should have see what polution was like pre-1995 when there were more factories. When many of the factories started to relocate to China things started getting better. When I came here, a few years before foreigners started leaving and compared to what it was like its almost nothing. After 1979 to the early and mid 90s the amount of foreigners had a dramatic drop. There has been an increase in migrant workers from Southeast Asia.

Prozzie lol Talk for me I have a hangover I'm emprore keep your stick on the ice Prozzie so respect my dynasty dud

The pollution is worst in the winter in Taichung. Last August it down-poured an hour a day then went sunny for about the whole month, so the whole month of August was pretty much clean air. Taiwan needs an offshore wind-farm, It's perfectly located to do so, although it would only be a little bit of power, it's clean, helps, restores coral and fish homes, seafood, food supply, and could be combined with gondolas to offer entertainment. Connect Penghu to Taichung by wind-farm and gondola, that would be sweet.

Cities tend to go through these cycles. If they have a great atmosphere for young people, it's a party place, and attracts many young people. Many decide to stay, and settle down and start families. Then they don't party as much and the character of the city changes, then it matures. Later a new generation grows up and it changes toward younger people again.

How things have changed in Taiwan - You can no longer drink and drive; You have to now take your teaching job seriously and not goof off; Taiwanese are more open to foreigners; OMG...how terrible!!! LMAO!!

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Hours later... Prozzie gets a RU-vid copyright strike from John Williams for playing Superman.

Everything changes...

Love your videos man, keep it up!

My mind completely exploded when I heard “Tai-WAEN” lol

Allen doesn’t have standing, to tell the Taiwanese that they should like multi-culturalism.

I'm sorry that this comment is so late... If you see it. I'm a new viewer. On the point of the pollution... In the 90s, when I came here, you can hike up Dakun and see a HUGE thick brown and gray protective shield of pollution protecting us from seeing the sun.

4:50 Yeah i agree .. I still drink way too much and am a relaxed kinda wandering guy... but if it was not labor day I would be working and taking my job seriously. I was not raised in a family where you half ass a job. Do your best and hope that is enough.

In clink... Cute way to say lockup, apparently I heard it comes from clink street in London where the jail was. Good combination Prozzie & Brit, your accents may be different, but you spell alike.

Hahaha. You two just. ..beyond the words, come to taipei bars,clubs, more fun, Love you guys

1) It's kind of cool/fun to watch this video and know exactly which street you are on, which neighborhood, etc. 2) I have noticed myself engaged in similar conversations over the last year or two; Basically, how fast Taiwan is changing and how much it has changed since I got here in 2013. 3) There are absolutely more foreigners here, now. It seems to have a negative impact on everyone (locals and foreigners). One example is that as there are more foreigners and thus more potential English teachers, the average wage for said English teachers has been dropping lower and lower every year and the general attitude toward them (and treatment of them) has become much more negative and neglectful. This kind of "I'm only going to pay you ________ and I am going to treat you like an unwanted, dimwit guest. If you don't like it, leave! There is a whole line of foreigners waiting to replace you".

I'd like you to show us the things you are seeing as you walk through the park.

Prozzie should move to Japan next 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵

The green party that Prozzie mentioned is Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) and their representative color is green. We do have green party in Taiwan, but it doesn't have enough supporters to win the vote of Taichung government.

I think Xinyi and ATT4Fun are the hot spots for partying in Taipei. Just moved back home to Australia after working in Taipei for 5 years. Miss the times.

Hey just to clarify the alcohol limit in Taiwan is not really low. It's the opposite at 0.18. I got stopped at a DUI checkpoint here and blew a 0.14 which resulted in the cops telling me any accident would be my fault but I'm entirely free to go. No fine.

What happened to Christine?

Interesting video. As someone who has lived in Taiwan twice - first in 2011, and then again in 2016 - here is my view. The pollution was always really bad in Taiwan (those mopeds are one of the reasons), and the nightlife was already basically dead by the time I got there. What has really changed is people's view towards foreigners. On the whole Taiwanese people were always generally polite to foreigners in-person, but when I lived there in 2011, the first sentence I learnt in Chinese was 【你是美國人嗎】which means 'Are you an American?' People were much more likely to stare at me, and hold very superficial views towards me, from the silly - such as the idea that I must never have eaten rice before going to Asia - to the sometimes outright offensive (e.g. I must be an alcoholic despite being someone who does not drink). In 2016, there were still plenty of stereotypes about foreigners flying about, but they were less extreme (aka they were surprised I knew about Taiwanese food, as opposed to being amazed I had eaten rice before), and people would now ask 【你來自哪裡】which means 'where are you from?' as opposed to assuming I was an American. People were also much less likely to do things such as talk about me in Mandarin, assuming I would not understand. I think this change reflects the second biggest change, which is the kinds of foreigners that now live in Taiwan. When I was there in 2011, the majority of foreigners were young, mostly white and male, and went to Taiwan for a gap year. They were either at a University studying Mandarin, or working as an English teacher on the whole. However, by 2016, with the arrival major companies, such as Google, and many media companies moving their Asia HQs to Taiwan, the international community had become a bit more diverse on all metrics. There was also many more mature and professional foreigners, who were there for work rather than fun. From what you both said, it appears this increase in professionalism has even impacted the English teaching community, which is good to hear. I think this change really impacted how foreigners in Taiwan presented themselves, and Taiwanese people have often reacted to that.

got here in 96,back then even the police would drink and drive,,

Prozzie, who are you cheering for in the NHL playoffs?

Prozzie born in Canadá: it went to shit Prozzie went to China: it went to shit Prozzie went to Taiwan: it became shit I think the problem is somewhere else

So, is the Ovo school closed?

Prozzie, I like your take on things, but you are WRONG about the DPP shutting down a "brand new nuclear power plant." Do some research about this. The battle over Nuke 4 goes way back and the final decision to give up on this money pit was made by the Ma administration (though yes the DPP--and not the KMT--are the ones attempting to eventually phase out nuclear power). Cheers, Guy

Yeah watch it. At 5:40 in the background they we're playing the old Superman theme from the original movie back in the 70s. That sounded pretty cool though as you walked by 😉

Next video: Prozzie's favorite Taiwanese shows/songs.

This is a good partnership. It works. Please keep doing vids together!

You would have brought an element to ADV that neither Winston nor C-Milk can offer. Sometimes one just needs a dose of hungover bum. ... You know ... someone relatable.

6:23 what was the song? I want to hear it at full volume

Traffic cameras and penalty’s have gone through the roof in aus last 5 years or so what annoys me is speed changes in short distance one goes from 100 to 70 to 30 to 50 to 70 in about 1 km stretch dangerous no reason revenue raising

I wonder if they realize coal when burned, releases radioactive elements that people can breathe in. Joke's on them for closing the nuclear plant.

c'mon stop judging Taiwan based on your experience living in Taichung - pretty unjust. Taipei has amazing areas for families as well.

i have days where i see no foreigners in taoyuan haha , but taipei obviously has soooo many foreigners. overall in taiwan, there isn’t much foreigners in my opinion (7 years first in taiwan)

I have traveled to Taiwan since the '80's. Vastly different than it is today. But I am always there on business and really didn't do much nightlife. But the food has always been fantastic.

少了中文字幕有些可惜

An aurora borealis is not boring and it is monochromatic.

I find Prozzie is more charming than Winston or C-Milk, he looks like John Travolta and always has a smile on his face. Please support his channel!

Even "Taiwanese culture" is multicultural itself, it's a mix of Japanese, Chinese, Aboriginal, and some early influence from Dutch and Portugal. So I don't want to hear that "keep it Taiwanese' BS to be honest.

Thank god im visiting Taiwan NOT for the nightlife

Prozzie looking great with real short beard!

2:56 Taiwan actually has a "Green Party (綠黨）" like the one in the UK (promotes environmental friendly policies), so it got me a little bit confused.😅😂Like "when did they get elected?😂"

Taiwan is much better now than it was in the 1990s. I still remember when if you went to a club or bar you had to show ID. When I first came here it was also at the tail end when the Military Police would ask to check IDs of people. Smokes were 20NT a pack, back when I got here bribing the police was something that was done. The roads were terrible. But back whenI came here there was a much bigger foreign community, because at the time many major companies had their Asian offices in Taiwan. But in the last 12 or so years many have relocated to Shanghai and Beijing. Even in our office, we have been here since 1970. When I came here we had a staff of around 150 and 30 foreigners. Today we have 22 and 6 foreigners including myself. In 2025 when I retire as we have a mandatory retirement of 55 I have the job of closing our office here. Its only still going now, because I have been with the same organization since I was 16.

Rainbow has only one color is a kind of mean.

I've been to TW in 2016 and 2018/2019, and the way I described it to white people I knew in USA who lived there in the past, during the 80s, 90s or even the mid 2000s kinda had them scratching their heads asking if we went to the same country or not. I did see a lot lot more white people in 2018 and 2019 compared to 2016, though. Also due to the subsidies/promotion of it, imo the MRT seems more crowded in Taipei than 2016, though I could have had a fluke time in 2016. :/

The first time that I went to Taiwan was in 2005. The tall, blue-eyed, big nosed, white guy stuck out like a sore thumb and I got a lot of people staring at me. Now, no one pays any attention to me except for the old men sitting outside of their houses.

" last couple of years to because more of a developed country" - I think you mean BECOME?

Less shitty teachers is a good thing. The most night life stuff I do here is night market and hot pot. On the multicultural stuff, depends on the culture. Most Taiwanese I've met are open to be friends with Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Westerners etc. but not Filipino and Indonesians (although that's a common trend throughout most of Asia). There's also a LOT of young people against gay marriage which as an early twenties American, I found pretty shocking. Been here for 2 years now and have loved every moment of it though. Also before anyone says anything, no I'm not an English teacher nor a student which on the experience side of things I think is beneficial as I'm not a part of the English teacher or student bubble whichs tends to throw a lot of foreigners perspectives out the wazoo.

Excuse to say that the previous DPP Taichung government has made a lot of improvements and the manifesto for green energy and cutting CO2 emission were very well written. What's worry me is the KMT which is more right wing does not have a clear vision for the future to cut emission. As a whole, pollution sources were not just generated from Taiwan but a big proportion of them came from China. Many countries suffer such this industrial pain including the Korean peninsula , Japan and Taiwan.

are you still in Taichung?

My men.

This thing about homogeneous milk is quite deep. Still can't get my head around it. What is it referring to or is a metaphor for?

Where is your girlfriend? She was the best part. Get her back. Go grovel say sorry make up and get her to sit in more videos w you.

you should start a hockey club. doubt there are many ice rinks. but you could just show up at a pond with a stick, a beanie, that mustache and a 6 pack. should be good enough.

The fruit-eating video from you guys sends me here.

Well sorry but that Taiwanese guy was right. The “rainbow “ would be smudged brown because of racial interbreeding.

I believe the drink driving limit should be zero across the world then there is no confusion as to whether that “extra drink” will put one over the limit. Everyone is a different size and has a different metabolism plus there is whether one has eaten or not and other factors to consider. 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Actually, the statistics shows that the air pollution problem in Taichung is slowly improving each year, though only by a very small margin and still have a long way to go before it is considered to be clean (The air pollution still is and has always been terrible, but it is actually improving according to statistics). People in Taichung “feel” that it is getting worse may be the fact that the discussion for pollution has skyrocketed in the media over the years due to political interests. Both KMT and DPP used this issue to attack their political rivals.