I really enjoyed this video! I remember standing on the platforms at Ogden in July 1963. I was eleven years old, and we were passing through on the UP City of Los Angeles. We met the City of San Francisco at Ogden, and both trains were so heavy with cars they split the combined train into Sleeping Car and Chair Car sections. We stood on the platforms and watched the shuffling of cars. The Sleeping Car section departed with the Dome Diner and the Dome Lounge, and our Chair Car section followed ten minutes behind, with two Dome Coaches and, of all things, a full-length Milwaukee Road "Super Dome" that served as the Lounge Car. Thanks for the history lesson, as well as the revived memories!
Thanks!! I knew karyn was the one when I saw she had a piston in her living room. Me too. Sort of a rat Fink thing. Anyway Rat Fink brought us together and model trains keep it working.
Grew up on the east bench, would ride my bike to the 24th street viaduct to watch the cars couple and depart. I have sooooo much love for the old yard. That was in the 60's.😂😍🤓
Thanks for the informative videos, this oldster likes what you're doing, I wish that I could join in your adventures in railroading. I wish that I could have witnessed those turbine locomotives in action. Next to steam they've got to be the most interesting to see and hear in action. I can just imagine hearing the high pitched whistle of those turbine blades as that power was applied. The power to weight ratio of turbine engines is massive and it's too bad that these locos were so temperamental. Your nostalgic likes are just like mine, the dirty, gritty old days, semaphores, catwalks and all.
I just came across this video. Very fun to watch! Back in the 1960’s when I was a boy we took the California Zephyr from Oakland to Chicago to visit my grandfather, so I guess I went through this station at some point. A couple years later we took the Santa Fe Super Chief route (City of San Francisco I think) so that went more parallel to Route 66.
Yes you almost made it to the Grand Canyon when you were riding in the super chief. And the zephyr cane through salt lake dissing Ogden by about 35 miles. Came in on the rio grand and headed west on the old WP across the salt flats.
hey guys! love the video and most of all I learn so much i may be 55 but like y'all I'm one of the biggest kids and Fan's of the Union Pacific history take care and keep screwing around 😉
Gunny! I love the Union Pacific and it’s amazing history. Not a lot of people think about what happened after they drove to Golden Spike and just how those two railroads manage to interchange with each other for a brief period of time moving all of the goods of the West Coast to the East Coast. This was quite a place
Nice video I loved the history of the yards at Ogden with the meeting of the three railroads. I have to agree the turbines are amazing engines and I love watching the old videos of the turbines at work on Sherman Hill. It's too bad that the fuel became too expensive and of the two that are left neither had a turbine engine left in them. I would love to see one run in real life.
That would be amazing. It could be done, the turbines survive and are being taken out of service. But they were not unique to these locomotives. But at gallons per minute to fire one...
Nice video! Those yards remind me of the old Nashville, Chattanooga and Saint Louis headquartered in Nashville. It had its back shop, roundhouse and inbound track on a strip of land west of town in what is today Midtown. Ironically the outbound tracks were in Nashville proper under the gaze of their corporate headquarters. They merged with the Louisville and Nashville in 1956 and the inbound yard and roundhouse caught fire in the 1970s. Now its a techno park for Microsoft and such.
I loved the historic photos and looking at the old rail yards. These industrial places have a certain beauty that it hard to explain. Perhaps the romance of a bygone era. Beautiful video. Thanks for sharing.
Keep watching!! Some fun stuff coming on Fridays 2 spun off if this. Browning and the Lucin cut off. Also the studio of Charlie Chaplin now the muppets studio. And a vanishing airplane factory
Such a rich history of railroading. Your miss adventures as a youth were fun as well. Now you kids got me watered-up for the show. Seeing the Old Rio Grande on Ogden UT. The layout was similar to the S.P. Yards in So. San Francisco. My Dad would take us, my brother and I, up on the Guadeloupe Hwy. (where the big ending of the car chase in Bullet, occurred.) Pop would get us up high enough so we could look down at the yards. First time I saw a Cab Forward and the big E units was from that spot. Now, you can fact check me and know by 1963-4 the Big Boys had been scrapped. Not so as we saw one on a siding not far from the roundhouse. Can't wait for next week. Greg and Jeanne
Hi! They were pulled out of service in 59. They were held in reserve for years before that. Not sure when each was scrapped but I think at least one was before they were pulled in 59. But as I found out even after. Being pulled from service in 1970 they are still around in 71 stored in the Ogden roundhouse. 2 were still in salt lake until about 1990. And 27 is still there in Ogden. So where were the 8 surviving big boys in the 60s? I watched as 833 was shoved into pioneer park back in about 1970. And moved to Ogden in about 1990. And it was operational in 1970 when it was stuck in the park. And where was it before that? In service only 11 years before. It’s easy to loose “track” of the time line. Not only were Big Boys around they were serviceable. .
I was going to attend to view Wasatch N Scale Model Railroaders. One of the astronomy club guys, Mr Goodman, displays at this event. Sorry I missed a good one, Nate. Dumb, dumb, dumb, I stayed home and watched cooking shows. All in preparation for a new induction cooker. Thank you, Dale and Kathryn for giving me a view of what I missed...at some point in the future. I wanted to go to the train show. Next week.
always good to see the history of this line the shops in Salt Lake, Grant Interlocking, The Old Depot, Union Station, and The Yards of North Ogden amazing stuff.
WOW again to my favourite Sunday Evening programme - as your videos are so brilliant ans give me often a good inspiration to run my operational sessions on my US layout, wich in fact is based on the pc programme called trainz. But believe it or not, i have basically every train running here, which are displayed on your films. Anyway, looking forward to part 2 and keep up the good work. Gereetings from Hilden/Düsseldorf - Germany - Ulli
I’ve seen That program around. Looks like fun! Surprisingly large number of people doing that. I have a hard time figuring out what to model as I look it all. Undaunted I just try to model everything
Incredible video. Love the old photos and history of the railroad in Utah. You provide so much information, your vids need to viewed twice to grasp everything!! Glad you got to take a train to take a train to take a train to the train museum!
We look forward to it every year. And the train ride. I used to ride the train to Saltair resort on the great Salt Lake. Reminds me of that. And I get to share it with Karyn. And all of you. That’s the best part.
Wow I knew about the Southern Pacific Causeway across the lake I know you peas tearing that up right now I'm not exactly sure if they're even running trains over the causeway anymore but I've never seen it the map of where the original Promontory Summit line went to I just knew of the causeway you're showing so much awesome railroad history in my state stuff I never seen before thank you so much I graciously appreciate this video all these things in the past I've never seen but they're awesome thank you so much peace out have a great day
Austin Glines the causeway is still used. UP has maintained it and it carries the larger part of the traffic west, while traffic to So Cal goes to Salt Lake and south.
Yes they’ve been ripping up the old wood trestle for decades. But the causeway right next to that is in good shape and still use daily. For what it’s worth we’re off in southern Utah right now looking for some of the salvaged redwood from the trestle.
I lived in Ventura for 10 years. Well Ojai. And I took that train many times. Your right it’s beautiful. All the way from Santa Barbara to San Diego. The line north (west) from Santa Barbara is also amazing but Amtrak doesn’t go there anymore
FYI. The Layton station was a restaurant for many years until the Front Runner came along. That restaurant moved out and it sat empty for a couple of years. The current restaurant has been there for a few years now. The south end of Layton where the station is has been neglected for many years. It was hoped that the Front Runner would bring business into that part of town. Maybe someday...
I ended up missing the Hostlers show in Ogden this year. I had planned on taking my parents down on Saturday morning, but ended up with my daughter in the hospital Friday night with Appendicitis. But we're already planning on catching the Evanston show later this year. It would be fun to bump into the two of you at one of these. Now I just have to figure out how to catch a view of the 4014 as it comes in May. Oh, the depot in Logan is a restaurant now as well, Cafe Sabor. Pretty good food there.
I just love your videos. You feel like family we haven't met yet. Looking forward to part II. Hit us up if you're ever in San Francisco.They're a couple years out from electrifying the SF/San Jose route. They're using FPH40's and BMP36"s right now. They're is also a UP branch line with some GP-38 and 40's. On Thursday & Friday you can usually catch Mainline 6 axle units picking up the week's load and dropping empties. Caltrain also operates two SW1500 switchers. Have a fantastic week.
Hi Guys: Another wonderful adventure that you're sharing with us. Also, love the way you both have the same Tees. Nice. Great history lesson -- loved the old photos and the "hand pointer" to location your described points of interest. Thanks for sharing. - Dean from cold Minnesota
Hope it’s warm and up there. It’s really warming up here which is why it’s now flooding. Not flooding badly but it has created this amazing waterfall out in the desert. So of course we climbed in the car and headed out to see it. It’s quite amazing not a train but incredible
I am going to keep this simple, Wow!!!..I loved this video, seeing all of that vintage railroad stuff sitting in the yards just makes me want to go out and find some of that stuff hiding here on the East Coast. Thanks for a great video.
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Thanks for the history of the Ogden train yards. While I'm not as sentamental as you are, I do like to here about the history of areas and how they have changed over the years. Karyn's train set is way cool. Looks like it's in a match box. It's the tinyest one I've ever seen.
Wow that is so awesome that you're showing me the history of the 4th South yard I've gone railfanning there and their grad Tower all my life I never knew what it looked like in the past I'm a huge Rio Grande fan I love Rio Grande it's in very awesome railroad I wish it still existed I had no idea that's what that area look like back in the day thank you for showing me those photographs I graciously appreciate it after all the railroad mergers where S P & W P & D & R G W are all a part of Union Pacific now I never knew what it look like when there was all that interchange action back in the day it is so awesome to see that thank you so much peace out have a great day
Did you notice the Rio Grande Heritage diesel for a split second outside the window of the light rail train? Had no idea it was out there and when I was looking at video for just a half a second you see it in the window
Here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, an American Legion post had one of those French Boxcars on display outside of their property for years. The American Legion moved away to new quarters years ago, and I don't know whatever happened to the boxcar.
A few have been junked. But if the 49 I think about 43 are around. This one was in “Memory Grove” in Salt Lake City until it was almost destroyed by an EF 3 tornado in about 99. Then it was rebuilt and brought to Ogden.
Enjoyed your history of the Salt Lake Intermodal Hub--I've spent more time than I care to think about, much of it after dark and in the winter, waiting for the FrontRunner or Amtrak there. Also, if you're looking for a longer train trip, I recommend the Southwest Chief between Albuquerque and La Junta, Colorado, while the semaphores and searchlight signals are still in active use. (I realize this trip is a bit out of the way from Salt Lake City, but still, it's worth it!)
Merci box car. (thank you boxcar). Most survive. Each af the 48 states got one as did Hawaii which was not a state at the time but they wanted one there because that’s where America entered WW 2.
I was at a train swap meet on Saturday. They were giving away free copies of old magazines. I picked up several copies of Railroad Model Craftsman. One of them was an a review written by Don Mitchell of Steve Strebel's layout. What a HOOT!
It’s a really fun episode. Need to hurry back to Salt Lake and finish it too! We found out there was a waterfall flowing out in the desert because the snow was melting so we had to go see
Back in the day in 1997 I actually got on the Amtrak at the Rio Grande train station when I was a kid I want to see my great grandma in Washington State it's back when they still have the Amtrak going over Donner Pass I got to go over Donner Pass on the Amtrak and it was amazing and that's where I got on the train is the Rio Grande train station it's such a shame and pathetic that Utah made it to where none of the awesome railroad stations that still exist have any tracks are any ways to get on a train I think that was a bad move on their part it's sad to see that Utah Salt Lake City doesn't have an awesome historical prominent railway station that still operates thank you for the video peace out have a great day
It’s nice that both of the original station survive and are being well taken care of. It’s a darn shame you don’t want to use this train stations or even have track going to them.
Great video! I'm looking forward to part two. Love the history, the old photos, and how you tie it all seemlessly together. Edit; I loved Karyns train set! It was cool, no matter the size, big or small. 😁
Since Karyn loves N scale so much why don't you guys stop by the Wasatch N scale layout at the National Train Show in July and we'll let her run a train or two around. I guess we can let Dale run one also :)
I am feeling a little disappointed with myself for NOT knowing there was soooo much to see in UTAH. I hope I will be able to capture a good lot of it on the Brief stay in May! Hope I will get to meet you guys. I will be in Salt Lake on the 4th of May. I will send through a few more pickies by email soon. Cheerio Adrian
The Ogden Roundhouse i believe was lost due to neglect and heavy snow storms. And after the roof collapse during the winter I think there was a fire in the following spring or fall due to lightning. They scraped the roundhouse about 2 years after the fire after mergers and the state being fed up with the eye sore.
Are you making plans for the NMRA Convention this July in SLC? Check on their web sight for updates as plans are being made for several Railroad tours along with trips to Promontory SUMMIT!
@@ToyManTelevision I love your videos, and one of my favorite part, is your choice in soundtracks. If i havent subscribed then i am sure to do it now! Keep up the great content.
you should of had a overhead pic of what it looks like NOW! there are about 4 missing Merci boxcars! the stuffs I like to look for at train shows is Tyco!
Wow! I never knew all that about the ogden yard! Incredible, I do have a friend that works at the UTA shops and I can get you in there if you would like
Absolutely! At some point in time we are going to do it out there. No idea win. We just make things up as we go along, whatever strikes your fancy we go do. But that’s high on the list
As a Flatlander living in Kansas, Im jealous of all the view you have in the Rocky Mountains. I, for someone who loves using trains, trams, and other locomotives as public transportation, love that you get to use them as such. Also, did your parents, maybe your dad, work in the railroads when you were younger?
Nope. I had a Uncle at penn Central and he got me into some grand places. But for some reason I’ve always loved trains. My aunt did live on the east side of the UP yard in Salt Lake City and her mother lived on the west side of the yard. So we crossed the many tracks. And I loved to see them switch the yards.
Have fun guys, in Albuquerque we have one of the last ATSF steam locomotive shops still standing and stable. Are there any more operational turbines still?
Nope. Two of the turbines survive the one here in Ogden and one at the Illinois railway museum in Chicago. The prime movers were removed from all of the turbines and sold to South America to using power plants. Two of them used to be stored on the team track in Salt Lake City as they never got sold. All long gone now. Ralph Govhnour who modeled the UP not sure if you seen that show, modeled those two prime movers under a tarp in his HO scale locomotive shop! And he’s got one on the ground outside the Andrew shop as though it’s being worked on.
The Big Blow's would be better if the diesel engine itself were actually contributional. On the one coal turbine that existed, the ALCO PA-1's engine actually contributed to the 5000 something ponies.
That was really awesome, however if they don't start hitting the rust and fixing some of those engines up. the rust is gonna have it that those engines are not around anymore. they really need to start doing some repair and upkeep on them. as it will be a shame if they have to send them to a scrap yard as they are beyond repair.
Really. So few involved anymore and little money. Looks like a junk yard. And I only showed the good stuff! They have more stashed somewhere else. Even worse.
As always that poor little guy is complicated. Adam Panellus is been featured on the channel here a few times as considered taking the project over and hiring a locomotive builder in Las Vegas to simply finish it. Tender is all damn cab is all done but major problems with the frame side roads in boiler
@@ToyManTelevision Was wondering. I was involved in the restoration of TVRR #1 in Fairbanks Alaska and it took us 10 years to raise the money and do the work. Hadn't been any news on 223 in a long time and was curious.
We are just coming back from looking at a spontaneous waterfall that formed from melting snow on the Utah Arizona border in the red rocks. So much for dry!
Brian Kelleher this looks like a MofW materials yard now. There has been no sign of turntable, pit, roundhouse, or,shop for years. When I was there in the early 80's it was already long gone. The old SP table location can be identified, but the table is got and the pit filled.
Love that locomotive. Well turbines. Not just 26. It’s just that it’s one of two left in the world. I’ve seen many. But never saw one running. Too bad! But I did see many of them before they were scrapped.
Yes. I strongly suspect they were internal politics in the group that wanted to tear the building down won. But it was going to be very expensive to restore. So even though the project was approved one day they just started tearing it down
Man, thats another huge piece of history lost. Shame that they tore it down, had some intetesting forms of utilitarianism and industrial architecture! I think a couple of months ago Union Pacific tore down the last parts of the Southern Pacific's Diesel and Car Shops, which itself dated to the 1870s and used to service the steam engines in the Oakland Yard too.
Hi! Wasatch. Also spelled Wahatch. . The Paiute name of the mountains. Utah means “mountain top”. Pronounced wa sach. We did a show on the old tracks and water tower on the UP at the ghost town of Wahatch. It’s the summit of the UP line up Weber and Echo canyons. Just below Evanston. The plan was to build the helper engine shops there but the winter wind caused them to abandon it and build at Evanston instead.
I've always wanted to go transcontinental on the train to I've gone west from Salt Lake on the Amtrak I wanted to go east go to Chicago get off the California Zephyr and transfer to the Empire Builder to go west to Seattle and then get on the coast Starlight back down to San Francisco to get on the California Zephyr to head back home I've always wanted to do that it would be epic peace out have a great day
I actually did that once. And rode the train from Los Angeles all the way to New York. It was really great but east of Chicago less interesting. Only because there are so many people writing so many trains and everybody just in a hurry to get where they’re going. The trains were more crowded than less well cared for
