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I think Barris looking even older compared to Lyn could also be because of her being a "healer", useing the force to heal others with her own lifeforce.
Regarding Barriss’ looking far more aged compared to Lyn, considering that Barriss was referred to as “the Healer”, a common theory I’ve seen pop up is that she’s been using Force Heal so frequently that it’s started to take a physical toll on her vitality.Remember that Rey said that how the technique works is that you have to give some of your life energy to do it. So perhaps Barriss has been doing it so much that she hasn’t really given herself time to replenish her life force, hence why she looks much older than she should be.
Even last episode, Barriss placed her hand on the Jedi's chest as if she was about to heal him with force healing. In her death she still saved another.
I choose to interpret Lyn as at least trying to save Barriss, since her saving Barriss would parallel Barriss trying to save the Jedi in the last episode.
Barriss used to be one of my favorite Jedi (pre-Clone Wars) because she was a healer in the books. I had a whole cosplay for her that I wore to the Revenge of the Sith premiere and to Celebration in 2007. I even met the actress. I was not happy with what they did with her in clone wars so I was so pumped that they brought back the healer aspect of her character and had her find her path again.
I loved what they did with her character in Clone Wars… because even tho her methods were extreme she was absolutely right in every word she said during the trial. I was personally more concerned about the writers making her an Inquisitor, because someone as determined as her would have never joined the Empire willingly. I’m very happy with how handled her character overall in this mini-series, the scene of her converting Lyn back to the light side even made me shed a tear.
@@BlackBurrito9073 Oh, I loved her general attitude against the Jedi, but I disliked how they took it straight to extremist terrorism. There's a LOT I dislike about that season 5 arc though.
I just thought the age difference was because of different species aging at different rates, but the others who pointed out that Force healing takes a bit of yourself also makes a lot of sense.
I don't think Barriss' species (Mirialan) age very quickly. If you're watching the new Acolyte series, there's a Mirialan character from the High Republic books who is well over 100 years old now, and still looks quite young.
I’m not for a moment considering Barriss is dead honestly 😅 She got stabbed off to the side in that survivable area. Sure she stopped breathing. She’s still saveable and I think they leave us on a cliffhanger on purpose. I will not be shocked if she shows up again with the Inquisitor lady having redeemed herself and healed her. And I am hoping she will.
Don’t tell that to the dude bros raging about a Jedi master dying from a dagger to the heart in The Acolyte, they’ll start ranting about Kathleen Kennedy! 😂
I’m pretty sure it was officially acknowledged at some point that the inquisitors are likely gone by New Hope because by that point Tarkin says Vader is all that’s left of the jedi religion, so they adhere to that.
I hope Bariss is still alive, humbly living her life safe from evil, helping where she can. While they left it open, I feel more satisfied that we saw her have a change of heart.
This must take place around the time of bad batch s3 considering they were after the force sensitive children’s blood, rather than the children themselves
Seeing Lyn freak out makes me realize that Yoda was right when he and Ahsoka were on Illum when the younglings had to find the kyber crystals. Lyn is trapped, but not in the cave, but in her mind.
Honestly Barriss surviving this is highly possible as the last episode was well into the period where a lightsaber through the gut is barely a flesh wound.
I just think this is an absolutely wonderful episode. It’s so beautifully paced, and although I hate that Barriss died, I really enjoyed how she turned out. What a hero. She knew the sacrifice would ignite the fire for Lyn to save herself from the dark side and hopefully the Empire. Wonderful writing and music as always. It really got me at the end.
Every time someone gets shot or stabbed in Star Wars all i can think of is that meme where Jango says "Well, we wont be seeing him again" and its always toward a character that has somehow survives a fatal blow. (Which is pretty much everyone in the current run of Star Wars)
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Yeah, I just wished they would've done Barriss's story as a mini series to flesh it out. Maybe 6-10 episodes. That being said, the music in this episode was top tier Kiner. Loved every second of it.
@@jungleblazers1249 I'm with you on that. I have no issue with the story and found this episode quite moving in a lot of ways, but perhaps another episode in between 2 and 3 was needed before we see her as a healer.
*[1]* The description _"A shadow from Barriss' past catches up with her"_ made me think that Luminara or Ahsoka might appear in the third short, and confronting her would snap Barriss out of the Inquisitorious. When I got a second look at the approaching figure, the cape made me think it was Vader. But it was probably best to have a consistent presence across all three shorts (and I don't think Vader cares about how she hurt Ahsoka, or that a Luminara/Barriss relationship could be re-established well in just one short). *[2]* I expected Barriss to fight the Fourth Sister with white lightsabers, since she is a healer - maybe still in the same hilt. But it's better, as a Jedi and a healer, for her to just evade attacks rather than return in kind. It's also a good flip on the Grand Inquisitor's first lesson. *[3]* When the Fourth Sister shouts "Barriss!" and she responds "I'm here," the sound effect when the former strikes the ground is from Exogol, when Kylo Ren meets Palpatine. *[4]* Barriss saying "I forgive you" after getting stabbed is about the most Light Side thing she could say, and a complete 180° on her previously writing off the Jedi Order for their violence. *[5]* The shot of Lyn leaving her lightsaber behind reminded me of the final shot of _Victory And Death,_ with Vader walking away from the clone helmet in the snow. *[6]* With Lyn mirroring Barriss' words to the unnamed Jedi, we get another parallel. These three shorts really like parallels, and I am not complaining. It's like poetry, they rhyme.
Wondering if "The Traveler" might be Quinlan Vos. Sure he's a Jedi, but we know from recent live action work that he's part of the Underground, protecting untrained force-sensitive people, and was apparently still alive at the midpoint of the Empire's existence. Vos, at least from the animated Clone Wars, showed a marked interest in remaining in the field, which would make a title of "The Traveler" a natural code name. The Underground might utilize his natural desire to keep to the open by having him scout out and intercept force-sensitives, starting them on their journey and protecting the rear, so to speak, but not necessarily escorting them the whole way.
Barris is definitely alive, though this season didn’t have as much Ahsoka as the last season her presence was felt, and I don’t think they let us know that Barris did stuff after the clone wars just to have her die and not appear in the Ahsoka show.
I loved this series! From the start to finish, I thought the whole thing was all around pretty amazing. There were a couple flaws or gripes I had during a couple of the episodes, but nothing that was able to ruin the entire show for me. I just really enjoyed getting to see the stories of these sidelined, secondary characters. And the animation for this show is incredible! I know pretty much all the Star Wars animated shows use the same Clone Wars style animation, but I felt like for this one they made sure to make almost every shot super detailed and really cinematic. There were so many beautiful shots throughout all these episodes where it looked like a painting. And it felt like when it came to the atmosphere or an establishing shot of a location they went into so much more detail to make it look and feel more real and beautiful. I also really loved the cinematography, there were just so many beautiful and aesthetically pleasing shots or scenes throughout this whole series. And the music was absolutely fantastic! The Kiners really have done it again, I think they really killed it with this show’s soundtrack. Everything just sounded so incredible and was able to perfectly emulate the tone of the scene. Pretty much every piece of music throughout this either sounded beautiful or super monumental in its own way. I really am so glad that they brought the Kiners in to do the soundtrack for this show. It really felt like because the episodes were really short, the creators decided to make things like the animation, cinematography and the music even more impressive than usual. Something I really appreciated about these stories was how they paralleled one another. I loved how Morgan’s story started out by her being offered to join the light but then ultimately she turns to the dark that she had once wanted to get revenge on. Whereas Barriss’ story started out by her being offered to join the dark, but then she eventually turned to the light that she had once deemed unjust and corrupt. I loved getting to see Morgan Elsbeth’s decent into darkness, I thought getting to see her story was a great way to better develop and understand who she was as a character for when we see her next in Mando Season 2 and Ahsoka Season 1. I really loved General Grevious in that first episode, I thought he was utilized perfectly, and for once he actually felt really threatening and scary, rather than just a coward like usual. And finally getting to see this amazing looking updated Clone Wars animated style General Grevious in action was awesome! Also I’m pretty sure that the first episode confirms that the reason Morgan looks different from the Night Sisters in Clone Wars is because she was a part of a different Night Sister Clan. Not only was their skin and hair color different, but they also lived in a forest next to the mountains whereas the ones in Clone Wars lived in a large cave. I loved getting to see Thrawn and Rukh in the Clone Wars animation style, they both looked amazing and so much better and more detailed than they did in the Rebels animation style. I also really loved Thrawn’s discussion with Morgan, not only did I find what they had to say very interesting, but it’s always just so great to hear Lars Mikkelsen’s performance during one of Thrawn’s monologues. Also what was up with that transmission to Bo-Katan?! That moment was a really great surprise, but I thought for sure that Senator would have contacted Ahsoka, I’m really curious as to what that was leading to. It was so great to finally see Barriss Offee’s story continue during this show. 11 years after her final appearance in Clone Wars Season 5, finally getting to see what happened to her was really great. I thought that the first episode of her story was incredible, I loved getting to see her more prominent turn to the dark as she trained to become an Inquisitor. I loved getting to see the Grand Inquisitor, I thought he made a great impact on this episode and on Barriss’s character. And seeing him in the Clone Wars animation style was so great, he looked amazing and so much better and more detailed than in the Rebels animation style. And I loved the feeling the Inquisitors gave off in this first episode, they felt like a dark, exploiting, cult like threat. I much preferred their overall portrayal here than in Rebels. I also loved getting to see Darth Vader, although he was only there for a couple of seconds he brought such a menacing presence to the end of that episode. I will say though, I wish he played a bigger role in this story. Seeing as how Anakin and Barriss have history from when she betrayed Ahsoka, it would have been really great to see these two actually interact in some form and for Vader to have actually had an impact on her story. I think they did a great job at developing the Fourth Sister. I really enjoyed getting to see her be an actual character in this series and I really liked the arc she was able to accomplish. And I absolutely loved that scene of her in the ice cave, it was just so amazing in every way. I also really enjoyed getting to see where Barriss’ path led her, I really liked how she had become this wise, mystic healer who embodied the ideals of the light side and is on some isolated planet helping those in need. And I love how she now looks upon her time as a Jedi fondly. Rather than holding onto her resentment for the Jedi’s corruption, she now remembers them for the good memories she had when alongside her master. I was really glad to see that this is where her character had ended up by this point. But I think one of my only problems with this series was how Barriss’ story ended. I just felt like it had such an abrupt ending that it made it feel somewhat anticlimactic, I understand Barriss had redeemed herself and because of that she was able to guide the Fourth Sister back to the light and out of the darkness. But it just felt pretty weird to me that Barriss got stabbed and then the episode ended like 30 seconds later, it kind of felt like there was no real resolution to the ending of that story. I just wish that Barriss’ story here would have ended in a more definitive and impactful way. Anyway, I still really enjoyed this series, I thought that it was all around super great and I loved so many things about it. I’m so grateful that we got to get this show and got to watch these stories unfold. I really hope that this show is able to get a second season. And if it does get a second season some characters I would really like to see get explored in their own stories are the Grand Inquisitor, Agent Kallus and Dr. Hemlock.
Just saying…. If they even brought Ventress back from the dead then I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of Barris surviving this. I wouldn’t oppose the idea because I really want to see her reunite with Ashoka…. But if this is really how her story ends then I would also be very satisfied, she went out in a very beautiful way.
Well at the beginning we asked what happened to Barris? And in the end, we're still asking what happened to Barris? Maybe we'll get a Tales of Outcasts to explain more but probably not
The inquisitors remained in operation All the way past the death of the Emperor. This Isn't even counting the emperor's other operational dark side agents, The Emperor's Hands.
@WaveSquadron, 8:01 Hopeful music, Barriss head didn't slump back, and Lyn spoke to Barriss as if she was still with her, so why do many reactors think Barriss died? The lack of breath isn't a good indicator. Barriss is injured; she's in bad shape and likely in shock. A body at rest doesn't require as much oxygen as one that's awake. Barriss breathing will be shallow and slower. Do you always see your breath on cold winter days or only when you are breathing forcefully? I think we will see Barriss again, but will it be in live-action or another animated series?
@@dragerdet And then let go of the dark side at the end of the episode, and still lived? Her wound hadnt exactly gone away by then. Also, Vader fully intended to kill her, so are we saying that Vader wasnt aware of what a darksider could do?
the one thing that i don´t like of this episode is that they make barris some kind of hero, but she killed a bunch of inocent people in the temple, imagine being family of the people who died in the explosion, you would want her dead XD
First of all Lynn or 4th. sister became the new healer instead of Bariss being her redemption, also I think they were on Illum that would make sense. For me traveler could also be ahsoka, but I admit then she would have called her old friend the traveler.
I think you're referring to two different off-screen characters referenced. The Traveler was referenced by the father of the child, who referred to that person as "he". It's on their video around 2:10. The Traveler is whom they came from. Barriss is sending them to another, the "she" and "old friend". That one could be Ahsoka.
On my first watch I felt a little disappointed with this episode, but honestly re-watching it again and listening to your discussion made me appreciate it a lot more!
Having been kinda lukewarm on Barris as a character overall she was never a favorite of mine and never a character I disliked aside from causing Ahsoka to leave the order it was really nice to get more insight on her through these episodes from the beginning of her first episode in this show I could tell she didn’t really wanna turn the empire mistook her disillusionment from the Jedi Order as her turning to the dark side when in reality it was always about trying to better the Order and make them go back to what they were supposed to be always peacekeepers, I won’t justify the way she went about it because there isn’t one but in a twisted way I get what she was trying to do
I actually think it would have been more impqctful if Vader saw Bares one more time. Ye acknowledgment that they know who each other are before he kills her would have been great
It sucks that Barriss still died in the end, but the way that in death she was able to save one last person, who in turn could take up a role like Barriss’s and heal others, was so beautiful. Hope there’s more in store for Star Wars animation, especially in this style, but for now we have Acolyte to look forward to.
@@blootube97 I thought it was okay. Characters were interesting, fights were really freaking good, a lot of interesting ideas, but the music wasn’t super memorable imo and the dialogue felt stilted a lot of the time. But it was still fun, I’d have liked to see where the story goes with a second season.
@@unicornburger16 oh. Lol well I was honestly not into it and only liked the one fight since it was literally the best Disney has done in live action ever! But everything else yeahhhh I’m glad they won’t continue since they spent more money on Acolyte but gave Obi-Wan a smaller amount when he is literally a titular character 😫
@@braddollahitei hope its not. she framed her and almost killed her. She literally ruined her life. Even if she “changed” im tired of no one facing consequences anymore
