To people who say they broke up, yes, however 4 days ago they released Drumless Random Access Memories, which is what I guess OP meant by “their new album”
What I've learned is that the talk box is better if you want the keyboard to sound like someone actually singing. Because you can move a lot better like a human voice. But the vocoder is better if you want harmony because the talkbox cannot do Harmony unless you multitrack it. Vocoder has more of a robotic sound. Depends on what song you're using it for or what effect you want
you CAN do harmony on a talkbox it just doesnt sound very good as the layered harmonics get distorted on the limited contact speaker, “perfect” harmonies like 4th and 5ths should sound fine tho
It would be far less intelligible. Vocoders work best when singing a single note very clearly and over enunciating. None of the original signal is getting through, it's using the waveforms(amplitude etc) and applying it to a synth. Basically digitally recreating the mouth shapes
depends on what patches you're using. Talkbox is limited with how well you can articulate speech because you've got this big thing hanging in your mouth and you're not actually making any sounds, so you have to force consonants out and stuff, it's weird. The vocoder you just sing/speak like normal
@@MawcDrumsYea Talkbox is a true workout lol. Roger was pushing 500 watts into his talkbox so he could pretty much whisper or sing damn near full notes but he still having to play, sing notes from his core. While trying control his breath etc🤣🤣 Talkbox is hard as hell. I have both. And I will always need both
@@samir_216the original idea behind vocoder was to strip down sound to an envelope at a set of frequencies to cut down bandwidth at long distance calls and whatnot (VOice enCODER) Then somebody figured that it sounds kinda fun if you substitute a constant grid with chords.
They almost never did live vocals but they did record a lot of their vocals in studio, like the two songs shown here. They did do live vocals for Teachers in 1997 which is the one occasion I know of
ignore that last notif, i found a remastered version but this is probably what you were thinking of ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--JNNTuFQ5zw.html
On a talk box, you are not producing sound. The sound is playing into your mouth via the pipe. The sound exits your mouth, and you shape the sounds with your mouth.
@@Goldensky-zs2lm yes, when talking you shape the words with your mouth, more precisely with the position of your lips and tongue, and with the help of your palate, throat and teeth (that's for english, some other languages can also use the nasal cavity for example). Then you expel air out of your body through your mouth, and the way your mouth and everything inside is positioned, you will get many different sounds. If your vocal cords vibrate, it's called a voiced sound, if they don't it's called a voiceless sound. So when you put the talkbox in your mouth, you're essentially blowing air that's vibrating to the frequency of the note you are playing into your mouth, thus creating a very nice effect. And since your mouth is pronoucing words, the air will "travel" in your mouth and you'll be able to hear what you're saying. Pretty amazing stuff if I do say so myself.
They use a vocoder, some guy actually found the exact one they used and made a shit post song that sounds like daft punk. Just look up daft punk pee is stored in the balls
@@treeman73272 Homework - pretty sure they just pitched up their voice samples (see Teachers and Daftendirekt) along with a talkbox (ATW) Discovery/HAA - Talkbox, unless you count the autotune on OMT and the raw vocals on Too Long, along with the Homework method on Technologic RAM - yeah that's a vocoder alright
There actually is an electronic larynx iirc. I heard about it in a video about a man who's vocal chords were crushed in a car accident, leaving it his only way to talk until a surgery was able to give him the donated voice box of a man who'd passed away recently. It's basically the same thing as a talk box, but more compact and I dont think you choose pitch. But it has a tube that plays a sound in the back of your throat so it bounces around and out your mouth, the same way the talkbox works.
Reminds me of the scene in Scary Movie 3 where a mute man uses a similar device to speak, which freaks out the president and makes him think he's under attack by aliens.
@@Ghost-3123you can change pitch, but it's just a knob on the front which is inefficient for singing. A talkbox essentially replaces the knob with a keyboard
“You don’t have to use your vocal cords at all” You see I understood what he meant but all I could picture was someone shoving that tube down their throat in replacement of their vocal cords
Sino Echo chamber vocal technique it's when you vibrate sound through your sinus passages it creates an electronic sound it's one of the methods used to make Donald Duck voices as well as robot voices
I've seen a talk box before and I legitimately didn't know what the tube was for, I thought it acted kind of like how the vocoder actually works, not the other way around. Neat!
I don’t think it actually matters if he does, it’s the texture that’s applied, tbf im not entirely sure but I’ve used vocoders before on vocals and the vocals pitch doesn’t matter only the notes that the ‘modulator’ is playing aka the chords or melody
well, as you know, he was playing the notes of the song on the keyboard in front of him. you are asking, if he was ALSO singing the correct notes, with his vocal chords. but, the answer is, he wasn't using his vocal chords at all. using a talk box is like 'whispering,' you aren't making a pitch, the sound is already at the pitch, going into your mouth. you are simply forming it into the 'shape' of words, by moving your mouth
