The fact a 14 year old became a casualty because of an argument between two grown men is the saddest part. He had an entire life taken because two men couldn’t handle their differences.
Just going to say that I definitely experienced that phenomenon of laughing when something stressful or traumatic happens. I was rowing once in high school and we came directly across a dead body floating in the river. I laughed at first until I was able to fully process what was happening and that what I had seen was actually real. Luckily I wasn't able to see the face so it didnt scar me too badly, but there was a period of time where I had nightmares of me rowing where bodies just started floating to the surface all around.
@@jordanetherington1922My mother told me that she was laughing during her fathers funeral because her sadness was to much for her to process. I think we shouldn't give that streamer any hate. He reacted in a way that is very normal but that seems odd when you don't know a reaction like that can happen. It is kind of the same as when you cry from happiness, your brain gets so overloaded by one emotion that it needs to balance it out by making you show the opposite emotion.
Yeah, I make inappropriate jokes in emotional situations. Not everyone gets it and thinks I'm being mean but it's just how I react sometimes. My uncle's are the only ones that understand me when it happens.
I know my situation would in no way be similar to a "life or death" scenario. But sometimes shock just makes people react differently. I once spilled hot oil over the top of my hand and lost an entire layer, forcing it to be wrapped for weeks. The moment it happened I scared everyone in the kitchen cause I just started histarically laughing, even a half hour after it was still "funny" to my body instead of being painful. Sometimes your body just doesn't want you to properly register a situation because of how fast it happened.
Absolutely, I was coming here to say just this. He missed the mark on this one, it’s not even a normal sounding laugh. He was under extreme anxiety/pressure/stressors, it was an autonomic response.
When my mom almost fell from a balcony and I barely stopped her from tipping over, we were both laughing. I totally understand that guy for nervously laughing during the situation.
Yeah I’m one of those people. I hate doing it because I seem very insensitive, but my body just does that when something terrible or something almost terrible happened. Sometimes all I could do is laugh. I hope one day I can stop doing that😂
As someone who laughs in high stress situations, i can confirm that that's just a thing that happens. Although his statement on "getting props" is wild.
@@wynnhasleft I know your comment is bait, but you are beyond dumb if you actually believe the streamer was justified in any way. I personally laugh when im really sad or distressed, but i cry at the same time as well, or the laughing is very clearly a distressed one. And using the Chat to defend him is dumb as well, Twitch Chat is the home of stupidity, especially for RL streamers.
Charlie I've got friends who served overseas and were blown up in an IED attack. Lost several good marines. I can first-hand confirm that a lot of people will laugh or make some really dark jokes in the face of immediate trauma like that as a coping mechanism because otherwise you just shut down. You stop being able to function. Im not saying that streamer was doing the same thing, but it is a little more common than most realize; but overall I'm sad to hear there were fatalities involved in this shooting and im glad yall were okay
This is something I can confirm as well. When my grandpa passed away in his sleep. The first thing I said/did was "closed and reopened the door" followed by me going "He's just checking the back of his eye lids he'll come too"
i was in a horrific mass school shooting once, and i can definitely attest to laughing it off while it was happening because i did not know how to react. you dont know what to do when these things happen, and everyone has different reactions to it. some people were crying, but some people, like me and my friends, were just laughing because the reality of the situation just hadnt settled in yet
@@jameshill8493 parkland florida valentines day 2018. i was lucky enough to not be in the exact building where it happened, but close enough to be on lockdown for hours while not understanding what was happening
Peyton calling to warn you guys, truly what a hero. In the midst of that ongoing horror, she thought about the safety of her friends. I'm glad she's okay.
@iamperplexed4695 They would have no idea. When that shit happens so close, your immediate thought isn't "Oh, it's a few blocks away, it won't hurt us" it's "Are we in danger, is that gunfight going to come here".
Considering guns go pew and people have been shot from people shooting their guns in the air she's still in way more danger than someone that's inside in a safe place
I’ve seen a lot of people chuckling and laughing during distressing situations like this. It’s the way some people cope, like screaming. One example from my memory is the earthquake and tsunami in Japan in 2011. There were a lot of people laughing out of fear. While their house and their town are getting swallowed by the ocean. And seeing people, cars, and your family getting swallowed. Honestly, I don’t blame the streamer for smiling and laughing. His tweets are weird though… My deepest condolences and sympathy to the victims, friends, and families. I wish the injured a smooth and quick recovery. I'm glad that you are safe, Charlie. I hope your friend gets through this.
same in new zealand 2011 earthquake. it was terrifying i had just walked into class as it started and i got pulled under a desk by my classmate but instead of screaming he just put his hands on my shoulders and looked at me and talked to me and that’s how we got through it, sorry you had to go through a big event like that as well, i hope you’re able to heal from that.
There is a difference between uncontrollable laughing and what he was doing which was his face filled with glee, he was smiling he was not checking the people around him, he was checking his stream. I think most people have had that thibg where you get told off by a parent or teacher and you just start laughing, I think everyone knows the feeling of you trying to keep it in and the face you'd make it was not a happy one.
The streamer laughing is actually a very natural reaction. One very common way to panic is to laugh. Not cause its funny, but as a mental defence to the terror.
This was not that kind of laughter. And lets give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was. Why is his main concern that he didn't get the clout for the video because a new station who shared it got more attention then him? In the video he seems excited and giddy at the content he's making and after the fact he seems upset he didn't get the clout for the content. But you're saying he was actually just stress laughing? Doesn't seem to hold up to the factual events as they happened. Trying to make it about yourself and how you laugh in stressful situations doesn't make this be one of those situations. Guess what, I do too. I laugh at pain when I'm hurt as a response or make jokes in the wrong situations as a coping mechanism. Do you have any idea how different those things are or almost getting hit by a car is then being in an active shooter zone? It's barely even apples to oranges it's more like dust bunnies to nuclear material.
I had a breakdown after we witnessed the aftermath of a murder on the sidewalk. I was laughing while I was saying how unbelievable it was that we had barely missed being directly next to it happening. I was laughing and then just started sobbing. No one knows how they'll react to being that close to that kind of violence and they have no place judging the way anyone who has actually been through it.
I am sorry you had to witness that but you can definitely make make judgments based on the situation... the streamer definitely seems to be a clout chaser.
Look at JFK's wife's immediate response to her husband's assassination - she tried to scoop up parts of his skull and brain matter in hopes doctors could save him. People really don't seem to understand the complexities of the human condition and brain. Just like how people seem to not understand dark humor is a coping mechanism.
As someone who has been smiling and laughing in a distressing situation, I can say it's 100% involuntary and I absolutely hate that I do it. There's a massive storm going on in my head but on the outside I look like I'm happy and its incredibly frustrating. My heart is so broken over this tragedy. I'm glad you and your friends made it home safely. Make sure you talk to your friends and family over the next few days. Don't hold this shit inside you.
My aunt who is the most healthy person, and she died of a Stroke out of nowhere. (No health issues, worked out, ate well) and when my mom told me It sounded so ridiculous to me I was laughing for a few minutes and then it finally hit me when she passed away. The brain acts in very weird ways. So glad you made it out, and I have a fear of being shot when out and about at a mall or theater, so I totally get that.
"Yo no props is crazy ngl" he was upset that he didn't get credit for people using his footage. I agree that it's an involuntary reaction for some people, but for streamers it's really hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. For whatever reason, these apathetic clout chasers are being rewarded with views and money so they keep popping up like flies.
During panic attacks I often can break out into laughter before crying out "why am I laughing?!" before breaking down into hysterical crying again, and if it's not that, it's silence and the 3 keep interchanging randomly. It's extremely distressing and upsetting to go through.
same. i feel like it’s just a strange response our brain has to an unknown feeling. i remember when my mom told me my grandfather died back in high school the first thing i did was laugh. it caught me so off guard and i think i couldn’t comprehend it yet
I was there and actually met Charlie for the 2nd time at the castle a few hours beforehand. It was surreal and incredibly scary I was with my wife running and I got behind her and was encouraging her to go faster while our friend ran along side us we had to duck down in a parking lot because at the time we didn't know of shooting would pick up again. I'm very sorry for everyone who was there and involved while being glad that many made it out okay.
My sister lives near Lewinston and actually works at the National Guard (I don’t know if it was the same office). This stuff seems far away until it happens right in front of you. And by then it’s too often too late.
I know exactly what that's like. Mall shooting for me... Very glad to hear you are okay, and know you have support through various means. These now common events aren't always as simple as the dead and injured being the only victims. Plenty of people, nearby especially, are too in different ways. If it gets difficult, feel free to reach out if you are comfortable. I'm nearing the end of therapy for what I experienced and it has been literally life changing for me.
Going into the different reactions to trauma thing. Last year, I was the eye witness to a shooting. Never having this happen before, I had no idea what to expect. My breathing slowed, my heart slowed. All I could think was "I need more information or more people could get hurt. Chances are I'll survive getting shot. There's multiple hospitals near by. I'll call police dispatch and give them the play by play." Later, when I was talking to a detective, he questioned me several times on where I was standing. He looked at me and told me "Son, you need to go to a casino. You are lucky as hell!" Turns out, I only saw the one shooter, I didn't see the two others returning fire. I just thought it was bees and they weren't as important as what was going on right now. Nope. Those were bullets wizing by my head and chest. But my mindset felt more like a crocodile disappearing into the water. I remember thinking "Thank God (my girlfriend) isn't here. She'd try to stop me. There was a kid, they were all kids, but I don't think this one was part of it, or at least not a big part. He was running at me, then I saw the look in his eyes. He thought for sure he was about to die but his feet carried him forward. I moved to the side, getting between him and the gunmen, offering him that little shred of safety that I would be shot first. They were kids. All of them. Only a little older than my nieces. I remember being that young. That angry. This isn't the way. I'm rambling now.
ignore the edgy 12 year old comment, they don’t have the brain capacity nor empathy to read it. i’m sorry that happened, i can’t imagine how horrific and terrifying that must have been. i hope you’re doing well and healing, and to those who lost their lives i hope their families are healing.
I'm 22 and still feel like a child who just became an adult. Hearing about someone being shot in my age is really uncanny and terrifying. Really emphasizes how it could happen to anyone
I'm glad Charlie and his friends are alright and saddened for everyone involved in the shooting to include family but also witnesses. The fact that shootings have become an almost daily occurrence is terrifying. I was an active duty Marine for 8 years and can absolutely confirm the laughing during high stress situations to include while under fire. Found myself in a situation of being in a crossfire and was with several of my buddies at the time. Myself and one other laughed during it, but were focused. Idk, it's a coping thing for the brain. The rest thought he and I were crazy at the time but us two were also the only ones taking immediate action other than ducking down so there is that. That said, the streamer asking for "props" in this scenario tells me his brain was thinking of clout rather than everyone else's safety there. That and the genuine smile when he looked at his chat are the giveaways to me. The fact that any "content creator" would use a traumatic event just to get their name or tag on other videos or news is sickening to me. I hope you all stay safe out there.
My respect to you and your brothers. Unfortunately, social media has created a generation of self-obsessed narcissists that lack empathy for others. Taking thousands of pictures and videos of themselves and concerned with the superficial instead of the meaningful. Not all thankfully, but a significant percentage.
As someone who has actually been shot, I actually laughed while speeding to the hospital with a bullet in me. It’s a strange human response to a bad situation, but not something we can help.
@@oi2715 Yeah, tons of people react that way from the adrenaline skydiving, bungee jumping, thrill rides. Not uncommon for people to smile or laugh when getting adrenaline from fear and/or anger. Could be shock/disassociation. Like "is this really happening".
I can relate to the laughter when something rather traumatic occurs. It’s a very “I can’t believe this is actually happening right now” type of laugh and comes about when someone has a dissociative response to something they have realistically no control over. There’s also a certain relief knowing that whatever happened did not occur close enough to where you are completely screwed.
I was about 30 minutes away from the shooting in Lewiston that took the lives of 18 people and injured many more, and the fact that the shooter got away from the scene and went missing for a couple days made going outside something to really fear. It's not the same as being minutes away, but it's a fear I can recognize. Shootings are nightmares
I had a laughing response when I heard a childhood friend of mine blew his head off, it was such an absurd thing to hear and I couldn't believe it at first. But it gave me about 20 years of mental health issues, so there's that. 🤷🏼♀️ The first response to a traumatic experience doesn't always tell everything about what someone's going through
@@jetrifle4209 you want to tell about your experience seeing pieces of your friends skull and brains in a ditch somewhere when the cleaning crew did a bad job or...? Just running your mouth, troll?
Yeah, THATS what gave you 20 years of mental health issues, sure. I had one of my closest friends drive himself into a pole at over 100 and I thought my other friend was joking when he called and told me. Where's my 20 to life of mental health issues?
It’s scary for sure. When I was very young, I was at daycare down the street from the Columbine High School massacre in 1999. They had set off a bomb in the field directly behind my daycare to divert authorities before they entered the high school. My parents were incredibly distraught and I’m so glad that my daycare wasn’t the target. RIP to all of the victims of mass shootings. Edit: 1999, I got confused with 9/11
When I was a child, the scariest thing that came out of talking back was an ass whooping from my parent. Now as an adult, the scariest thing is looking at a person the wrong way, saying the wrong thing, or even talking back can be a death sentence because one person decides to play judge, jury and executor. We are beyond the point of individualism and a lot of people are just flat out selfish. Scary times we are living in.
There were guns in the US when you were a kid. The only difference now is our culture revolves around killing the opps. People have no regard for human life anymore.
Glad you are safe Charlie. Laughing is literally a fear response and he was drunk. He couldn’t believe it, thats how crazy this is nowadays. I don’t care anymore I just want it to stop because no one seems to actually do anything about it. People are lame
I laugh to physical pain (just like small stuff like waxing or bumping into things), so I get it but on a much smaller scale, it feels really weird and I don’t think this guy would be genuinely laughing when he’s still in the vicinity of the deadly threat.
I personally relate to laughing in traumatic situations. I am someone who often does this uncomfortably and uncontrollably even though I don't want to. But this just looked too much like he was excited.
I was fine with that until the dude complained about not getting credit for his video. That right there made me believe he was genuinely laughing during the shooting. I think he was excited because he thought he'd go viral.
@@SirHeartbreakertheFirst what is MORE background checks gonna do. they already do background checks on EVERYONE who purchases a firearm from an FFL to begin with. you're just as clueless as the other guy.
I live in maine, the shooting that just happened in Lewiston was genuinely so shocking for us Mainers. So many dead, so many hurt, a child and his father. Our state has always been called one of the safest and now everyone’s on edge. My coworker lives right next door to one of the places the shooter had hit, luckily she wasn’t home. Rest in peace to everyone lost in the lewiston shootings. Rest in peace to everyone Charlie talked about.
I was expecting Charlie to also comment on the shooting in Maine due to the proximity in time to this one in FL. Thats two shootings in the US in the past week (that I'm aware of, at least). I live in VT about 90 mi from Lewiston where that shooting happened and I've been thru that town before on the way to Portland and Old Orchard Beach for summer vacations, so it was shocking to hear about one of these incidents happening in my area. It remains to be seen if/when society and the government will take serious measures to address this scourge, the proliferation of excessive firearms and tendency to violence.
yeah the whole shooting was terrifying, im not even super close to where it happened up in lewiston but i know people who heard the gunshots. im still worried about getting back to normal activities like shopping. really hoping that never happens again, glad majority of the people shot were safe.
Live in the other corner of the U.S. Felt the same way when the Umpqua and Burlington shootings happened. Then laws changed, and nothing like that has happened since. Same will happen in Maine.
I know what that's like living in Nova Scotia. We had one a few years ago too. It's so weird when something like that happens to a place that's usually boring (not necessarily in a bad way). It shatters the calm in such a sudden way.
As someone who laughs in high-stress inappropriate times, this is a very real reaction. I’ve had someone threaten me physically right up in my face, and I full heartedly believed that I was in danger, but I let out the loudest laugh. Not because I was trying to look tough, it was just an immediate reaction to the situation. Obviously this caused the situation to escalate and other people had to be involved, but it is a genuine nervous reaction that I had no control over. It is a struggle to control, and i’m sure this streamer being intoxicated only added fuel to the fire. I don’t think he should be receiving any kind of hate or ridicule because at the end of the day, he survived a traumatic situation that should’ve never happened in the first place. My heart goes out to all who were involved, and I hope the 2 people who unfortunately passed rest easy. It’s also interesting to hear that many other people also experience the struggle of laughing at an inappropriate time, as I used to think that this was just a weird quirk about myself. Hopefully more people can recognize that this reaction is not something that people can easily just control. There’s a difference between laughing intentionally at a situation and laughing non-intentionally at a situation. (edit) The clout chasing on twitter was very much in bad taste. Yes, it was his video, but very strange priorities on his mind. Someone should talk to him about that 😅
I haven’t experience it myself, besides an obvious tell I had as a kid where I would always laugh if I was lying about something. However I’ve known enough other people and seen people express fear in this kind of way, the same way the streamer does in the clip. Can’t excuse the clout chasing asking for clip credit, but I wouldn’t go so far to say he was happy he caught a shooting on camera because he was laughing.
I am someone who laughs when nervous or in pain inflicted by others. Playfighting when I was younger with older cousins would be a bit difficult to try and get them to stop. There was a time that I was struggling to breathe when wrestling in a pool and he didn't realise because I was laughing during the time I was above water. I can completely see how this guy was laughing out of nervousness, it's really hard to stop.
For me, it's when I experience sudden, sharp pain. My knee popped out once and I doubled over laughing hysterically, like so hard I almost passed out, and it freaked the fuck out of my girlfriend at the time. Inappropriate reactive laughter must be some kind of brain wiring thing. I bet there's a psychological term for it.
I can confirm that some people have a fear response of smiling as a means of stress reduction. I used to do this when I was a kid when I got in trouble st school. I had teachers lose their mind cuz they thought I was disrespectful to them when in reality I was terrified of the ass beating I'd get if my folks found out. It was completely involuntary so bad that I'd have to bite my tounge to force myself to stop.
Yeah but I highly doubt that's what went on with him. I wish the person that made excuses for him hadn't said that. His response to the people using that clip clearly shows he only cares about "content". He was running and laughing like he was a kid playing a game of tag. If he was drunk and still had sense enough to run when he heard gunshots/saw panic, I don't understand how being drunk would nullify fear of being shot.
@@cosmichild1 wdym running like a kid playing tag?? hes literally running from a shooting would u rather he doesnt run away? and just as he said him smilling i think is pretty normal in that kind of situation
I remember when I was riding with my mom and it was dark and a huge truck brushed against us, not seeing us, taking off the side-view mirror and making us swerve away. Afterwards, when the car stopped. She immediately started crying, and I immediately started kinda chuckling and trying to break the tension with some light jokes and cheer her up. People definitely react to scary things in very different ways, though I will say that guy looked and sounded oddly enthusiastic about the shooting.
My mom was like 11 or 12 years old living in Florida when her church van accidentally ran over a student. It was so unreal and traumatic for her that her body's immediate reaction was to bust out laughing. To this day she doesn't understand why she did that. It's real and happens
The comedian bobby lee tells a story where one night a drunk motorcyclist and him got in an accident. After the crash he saw a body, thought his life was over a million things in that instant but he said he was just laughing maniacly. Said he had no control over it.
it has nothing to do with age. Its almost completely involuntary, it's just a coping reflex some people have and it's more normal than you think. In theory you could try to fight it but yould be better off not fighting a coping mechanism and also usually have bigger things to worry about while it's hapoening. Edit: the props part is fucked 😅
I'm gonna be honest. A lot of people don't have that movie-like reaction to terrible events where they run home crying to friends and family saying they're traumatized. Some people genuinely move on the next day like nothing happened. Some people are affected but don't show it, depends on the person. Neither are a psychotic response, it's just people that are incredibly privileged that think it is. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience. Running from gunfire, walking down the street someone got shot on a few hours ago like it never happened, etc. That doesn't mean you don't value human life like some people like to think. Someone who doesn't value human life is someone who would intentionally harm others without a care in the world. I'm ranting because it just reminded me of a time someone tried to call me insane because I wasn't deeply impacted by a shooting nearby. For some people, it's just something that happened and goes no deeper than that, at least in the experience of myself and some people around me. I'm not criticizing anyone for having that movie-like response. Just saying to stop trying to brand me and other people like a serial killer in the making, it's insane and hurtful to be compared to someone who would do something like this. I haven't intentionally hurt anyone and never will unless absolutely necessary. The tweet he made afterward is crazy and incredibly distasteful though. Who in their right mind wants to take credit for recording a mass shooting?
This. I was raised in Venezuela. Shootings and murders happened literally every single day. We develop a different way to see these things. I wish I could feel surprised or shocked by those news. I empathize with the people affected. But I was affected too many times. On top of that. Even people who have never experienced tragedy can react in very cold ways. It is a way to cope. Criticizing others is what privoleged people do.
Come on guy - this isn't an abhorrent trauma response, or bad optics, or nervous smiling, or anything else - this is a guy excited and happy with glee that he's capturing interesting content which might mean money for him. That's all. He's just happy as hell.
Pretty much. Violence just doesn't phase me anymore. Doesn't mean I like it or want it to happen. I'd prefer to be well away from it. But, I'm not going to panic or cry because of it either. I will say that even in that light, the streamer dude's reactions seemed like he was only interestede in content from the get-go, though. On the other hand, that is literally his life, so, I can understand how it's the first thing he would think of in ANY situation. Not necessarily a good thing, either. But for his sake, I hope what happened properly hits him later so he has the chance to rethink his life.
Mental health is at an all-time low, globally. Tensions and violence are rising in practically every country. It's horrible and needs to be fixed before it reaches its breaking point. Things aren't bad. They're a lot worse than bad.
As someone who was in the area the day before for a Halloween event, I can’t imagine the horror and fear that everyone there was subjected to. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who was there, especially the families of the victims. I hope those responsible spend the rest of their lives in prison for committing such a senseless act.
I'm 55, and I was born and raised in Altamonte Springs, just north of Orlando. In my 20's, we went to a few Guavaween's in Ybor City and always had the best times. It ALWAYS makes me sick to my stomach whenever I hear about a mass shooting, but this one hit extra hard being in a place where I have such fond memories of. So glad you guys are ok 🙏🙏🙏
This is insane, I'm glad Charlie and all the friends are okay, but this is just crazy. A mass shooting happened just a few days ago in Maine, too. This shit is happening too often, and dragging in too many people who had no part in it besides someone's temper tantrum
Got a photo with you, and went to walk that way before it happened. Terribly tragic. Glad we got out safe and prayer that those injured in it come out the hospital safe.
My wife was a flight attendant and they are trained to handle traumatic scenarios. One of the big things they are trained on is understanding how people in the public react during high stress incidents. Apparently something like 5-10% of people have their brains short circuit their fight or flight response and it forces them to laugh like this. They still feel the terror, but their brains just go haywire and they crack up laughing. Notices that he is still running and panicked, he just also cannot control how his brain reacts there.
i do agree however his face bugs me in that clip, dude looks like he's so happy that that happened. ofc that cpuld be me readin into his face wrong, im not always the best at readin faces. i still give him the benifit of doubt tho as nobody, as far as im aware, is a mind reader so we cant rly kno wut he was thinkin in the moment
Its not just that bro. Cuz me personally. I laugh. Cuz why not? I might end up dying so why not have a good time. Im like luffy always enjoying shit. Even if someone or I myself gets hurts. Thats life ig
In my opinion, we could have done a lot to prevent shootings years and years ago. This is a symptom of a culmination of different problems. Economic struggle, educational failures, parenting failures etc. We as a country have had poor priorities for a long time. We're really starting to see the effects of those, and now we're too politically constipated to take the time and do the right thing.
I'd go as far as to argue that all of that is intentional. An uneducated, unparented, population in poverty is far easier to control than affluent, well raised, educated one.
Company profits going up while wages in relation to inflation going down because they want highly productive workers that are so mentally drained and strained they can only focus ON THEMSELVES AND NOT OTHERS they are riddled with psychological issues and depression broken families and worries! This is what modern government wants.
Remember y’all that police don’t prevent crime and they are legally not required to protect you. No matter how many officers are present, gun violence is a risk to us all.
Absolutely awful to hear this. When I was young, I had an irrational fear of my house burning down and my parents would always tell me "How many people do you know that have died in a house fire?" It's wild to me that after all of this time, I still know no one who has died in a house fire (or even lost a house to a house fire), but I know several people who have been around during a mass shooting. The town right next to my hometown had a large festival that in years past I had attended many times, and it was shot up one year, and it really opened my eyes to the fact that this can happen at any time. I'm uncomfortable at malls, church, or any other gathering now days because of this anxiety that it could happen again and this time at an event that I'm actually attending. I wish you the best with moving past this Charlie, or at the very least learning to cope with the anxiety that may develop from this.
Im sorry that that hits your brain so much, thats gotta be so stressful. I'm not trying to download my anxieties onto you, but just sharing my experience. My brother bought a house a few years ago, and after like the first week of owning the house he invited me over to show me his place. I get there and he starts showing me around. we see his fireplace, its an electric fireplace and I hadn't seen anything really like it besides in the TV shows. The house was new and he had only tested the fireplace like one time from what I remember, but he turned it on and it was working, we walked into the kitchen after talking about it for a little bit, and by the time we had walked out the whole room was on fire. I still dont know what happened truly, like that shit shakes me to this day. How high the flames were in the house, and the animals and his children inside and having to just panic and tell neighbors that the house was on fire. Firetrucks took what felt like forever, nobody was harmed, but still one of the most terrifying moments of my life. We figured something shorted, but still. We were lucky nobody was in bed. I know you dont know me, but heres one person whos lived it. I still when i walk into rooms just think about how they can potentially just be on fire. Be careful with electric fireplaces.
i completely understand, i don't know a single person who's been seriously injured in a car crash but one of my dads close friends was at the garlic festivle shooting in california with his two young children. it's horrible that even those "normal" tragedies have become a backburner to gun violence of all kinds.
rest in peace to those who died. I swear to god this sucks i am glad you are at least okay charlie. warning: do not check the replies because of how strange it is there if you get triggered.
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I can’t image what Peyton was going through. I was involved in (what I believed in the moment to be) a mass shooting at the Texas State fair a little over a year ago. It turned out that it was an argument between two people that turned into a knife fight. I remember the crowds, the screams, and seeing the hundred or so cops they dispatched searching the area. It was absolutely terrifying. I have the comfort of knowing that no one except for the two men were hurt, but I can’t imagine knowing that two innocent people died and another 18 were seriously injured. My heart goes out to Peyton, I hope she’s alright after all of that.
Something similar happened like 6 years agp at the Texas State Fair. The people there are insane. Never found out what actually happened but people were running and screaming and cops responded
@@aerosoco7 Not everyone is as mentally strong. This is a shooting. Also just because they didnt die doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect them. This “they lived so they’re fine” is bullshit. Anyone whose actually experienced something could tell you it’s a stupid thing to say.
Hey man. This is bound to get drowned in the comments but I relate to your experience and I feel for you. Someone I went to school with shot up my brothers and cousins high school and I was personally in an active shooter incident. It was in a high security area and the perpetrator was actually someone I knew personally on guard duty. The little bits of everyday stress still havent gone away but it pays off to keep on living life. Dont stop doing what you like and try your best to live even if just to spite those who try to ruin life for others
@@thetypicalduo9353 yeah i think he is kinda brain broken, to even say something like that to a victim shows it "oh but you must have felt safe" jesus christ
Dude's adrenaline was probably through the roof I don't think he was controlling the reaction he had to it, I've experienced that "laughing in the face of danger" feeling before
Charlie just for some insight, I was near a shooting at a football game once and I was in the band. We heard the shots to our right side and everyone started running off the field and we were on the track that connected to the field. We have a field house where everyone goes to prepare for activities on the field where and the whole band went into the field house. MY reaction during this was very similar, not because I thought it was funny or amusing but because it was my auto response to just laugh and smile. I do it with every tense thing and it looks like i always think it's funny but I don't. Just for some insight to the stream clip he probably wasn't amused by what was happening just shaken up and that was his auto response
This is why I get anxious when people argue, and I hate going to Homestead or florida City. Love you, florida brother. I'm glad you and your crew made it out without physical dmg
I have never seen Charles truly at a loss of words before. I could tell that he was just in another place for the whole video. I'm so sorry Charlie. That is horrible. And most of all my heart goes out to all the victims.
This is sad and terrifying. My heart goes out to all of the victims and I hope Peyton (and all the other witnesses) will be ok and get through the trauma of witnessing that. Glad you and your friends are safe.
My heart and prayers go out to the new one that'll happen soon, just so that I can be ahead of this thing. And of course the last ones because where would we be here now without humans losing their minds in a society that hates them and generally degrades their soul. Or they're stupid or crazy, but it's not always them. Honestly, you guys should learn to understand people before shaming them, labeling them outcasts or pretending they're terrible people for doing something bad. Who knows, maybe one day it'll be you.
Gotta love the bots replying to people extending sympathies to the victims spewing the most vitriolic spam they can for clicks. Milking a tragedy much?
Nobody thinks a mass shooting is gonna happen in their neck of the woods until it inevitably does especially in America. It's awful. I have a 2 year old son and I am so worried of when he becomes old enough to go to public school due to how many threats of gun violence and actual shootings have happened at schools. In fact this past year, the middle school in my town had a kid arrested because they decided to bring a loaded weapon to the school. Shit is scary. I'm so glad you and your friends were ok and I hope your friend who witnessed the shooting happen gets all the help she needs to navigate this traumatic event. Much love and stay safe out there Charlie.
Also this has nothing to do with America and everything to do with human nature. Have you see the kindergarten stabbings happening in China? Blades can be just as bad if not worse than a gun depending on the scenario.
I live all the way up in Maine and this couldn’t be anymore true, I would never expect a mass shooting to take place in my state but this weekend one took place, I guess there’s crazy’s everywhere…
Remember online school exists, if you are worried about that. It’s a long bit away, and I don’t know what online would be like for a younger kid, but I personally find it great. There are a lot of good systems out there, and it lets you have the benefit of knowing the child is safe at home. It is probably very different for kindergarten or elementary, but I find it substantially better to brick and mortar, due to better and on demand help, freedom, open time, good time management, waking up when wanted, and a decent community depending on the school. I understand the worries of a child not having peer to peer interaction and a classic school experience (especially at a young age), but it is an option to consider. With things going the way they are, it’s worth a thought. Just my two cents.
This is genuinely terrifying, it's worse knowing it really isn't irrational because it seems so common nowadays; I just hope everyone is alright through awful times like these
That streamer was most likely under extreme stress. You can hear the adrenaline rushing as his voice cracks *harshly* while exclaiming. His later statement was absolutely out-of-line in its intent though, so I can see the other perspective fairly well. The situation itself and the greater, underlying causes are very complicated. I'm glad you and the people you went with got out safe, and I hope that you all maintain your composure and good spirits in the wake of something so terrible.
It's usually someone laughing awkwardly and you can tell on their face that they're actually uncomfortable with the situation. He was creaming his pants. Clout chaser 100%
That's actually horrifying and tragic. I have a 14 year old brother, and imagining how awful this is for the family is heartbreaking. I'm glad you and your friends are okay and unhurt.
I got a 14 yo brother too and idk what I'd do man. If he died I'd probably fall off in school and ruin the trajectory of my life cause he's really my bsf
My father was there last night, He isn’t talking much and is petrified. He told me he was at a bar. Everyone running to their cars, trampling over others. I cannot believe these shootings keep occurring? from maine, to ybor; these need to stop happening…
I myself can confirm the whole “laughing” during stressful moments because I’m one of them. I once got into trouble because I was playing with a friend who ended up slamming their face on a curb and I was laughing my ass off despite crying.
whenever I used to get in trouble or I was getting ass whoopins all I could do was laugh and smile as a coping mechanism and your right it’s something almost out of our control
I'm a 2 time cancer survivor and I laughed to cope with the pain of the treatments and surgeries. Some people might have considered me crazy but that's how I got through it.
I've been in a similar situation. My nurse wasn't familiar with this response and became terribly concerned. I had to reassure her it was how I was coping with the anxiety and discomfort
Laughing about your own situation is a completely different thing. If you would see someone receiving cancer therapy and you would laugh in that situation... That would be the equivalence to what this streamer does.
I do something similar but instead of trauma it’s frustration. Sometimes when something gets frustrating I’m physically trying to hold myself back from laughing. It sucks.
@@miner1226Why tho. Why hold yourself back. You guys seem to not understand your body at all. Laughing is like the best thing you can do in most situations. Thats why you see so many people laugh at any given time even if its just them getting used to fake laughing.
This hits way too close to home after what happened in Lewiston, Maine. I know that was slightly different but I’m still sick of mass shootings being as common as they are in this country.
“No props is crazy” has to be the craziest statement ever. Social media is the devil. He’s mad that the mass shooting he recorded didn’t result in him getting more viewers 🤦♂️. He’s mad that he’s not profiting as much as he could be off this situation. Insane. All he’s thinking about is how this is an opportunity to help his career.
I was feet from a shooter in Idaho. It’s scary, and traumatizing. I’m glad you are okay, my heart goes out for all of you. You will get through this! ❤
My heart breaks for those involved. As an Australian, I can't imagine the fear that must be felt simply stepping out your door hoping that today isn't the day something like this happens.
that would be called an irrational fear. The fact is, this shit happened at 3am between two shit groups of people. it wasn't a random shooting, and even if it was, those are so exceedingly rare that to worry about them would be irrational. I don't worry about acid or knife attacks in the UK, so why would I worry about shootings here
Per capita, you're much more likely to be attacked by a wild animal in Australia than to be anywhere remotely near a mass shooting in America. Just take a look at the comments to see all the people that are crippled by fear by such an unlikely occurrence. The fact that they happen at all is obviously an issue, but it's also important to note just how much of what we're told about in the news is fear mongering.
My cousin was supposed be celebrating Halloween with her college friends on that exact street. She ended up asking them to stay back on campus ... who knows why. Not wanting to pay for an Uber, convenience of staying close to a dorm, etc ... all I know is I'm just so relieved she's okay and heartbroken for those who went. I'm glad you're okay.
do you seriously have any morals at all? are you this gone? im definitely responding to a bot, but i have to say something, each one of you who post these bots should rot@@ChrisShafferOfficial
Not the same incident but one of my friends was gonna go play Football the day of the Plymouth shooting (the pitch was one of the places the shooter went past) and last moment decided to tell the boys to just hop on Minecraft instead.
I remember when I got told my dad had passed and the first thing my body could even think to do was laugh. I was genuinely laughing harder then than I would've ever thought possible to at something so bad. Of course after about 20 minutes the laughing stopped and soon came the normal emotions, but I believe that the whole laughing at bad news/events might be a shock reaction of some sorts but idrk I'm not an expert
When I was informed my grandmother passed, the first thing I did was laugh. Tbf I was told her last words were “Shut up.” Truly Nana went out on her own terms 😂
@@veganvampdraculaura Also, don’t be sorry. She often asked me what I would do if/when she died. I always asked in return “Before or after I stopped laughing?”
I live in Maine and when I heard that a mass shooting had happened less than an hour away from where I lived I was terrified. And eventually once I had heard about the victims and how many had died I no longer truly felt safe in the peaceful state of Maine. And this could've been avoided had the government not slipped up. I'm truly sorry to hear about this new info and I pray for those that are effected.
I hate the state of America. I don't feel safe n my block, at my school, grocery store, fucking no where. There was a literal shootout directly across the street from me in 2016/2017 and in 2019 5 people were killed at an apartment complex. I knew one of the kids that was killed. I am so fucking terrified of catching a stray or being stab in the streets just cause someone got in a fight or lost their minds. Stay safe.
Man I was 20 feet from the first shot, there was about 30 of us who saw the two guys yelling at each other and then one shoved the other. The one who was shoved was the one who shot first and we all tried to hide behind cars until the second shot where we all tried to run away. I felt so bad for the ones who couldn’t keep up who almost got trampled.
@@ililililiilililillli Hundreds of people were in the area that it happened, 1 person commenting about their experience on the biggest video about it isn't really rare. You should rethink your trust issues and seek therapy.
You know... they really have bad aim. Im not trying to make light of the situation but how hard is it to hit your target and not fucking 17 other people?
The laughing alone wouldn't be a problem (when I got the news that my dad died, I laughed involuntary before bursting out crying. It happens.) But the "no props" tweet is what makes me believe the laughs weren't from stress/trauma, but actual glee... it's incredibly disturbing.
I’m so glad y’all are safe. This is terrifying. This is too common in the US. Also: People will act strange when suddenly confronted by their mortality. It’s easy to jump to conclusions because other horrible people use tragedy for clout, so this dude might be legitimately terrified on top of being intoxicated. Mortal terror + intoxication = weird behavior.
@@raresthornetNo, it really isn't uncommon. You're more likely to be struck by lightning. There's like less than 10k innocent people killed by guns every year, most of the shootings are gang violence or suicides. The media portrays gang shootings as mass shootings to push an agenda. The big shootings you hear about every few months are the only real mass shootings that you would think of
@@raresthornet No, the stat is incredibly inflated because the FBI classifies "mass shootings" incredibly loosely. Any incident where three or more are injured with projectiles count, hell they've counted bb gun accidents as "mass shootings". This type of atrocity isn't nearly as common as sensationalist media want people to think
Solution: Gun Sale Regulation. Its the only solution but some gun companies make you believe its a "freedom" situation. Right to life > right to have a fucking gun
Genuine tragedy, and you can clearly see Charlie shook to the core with this one, and I can't imagine what/how the others are feeling. From those that observed it, and the victims (and those related) themselves, I hope they all get the support they need.
3:50 yea I agree. We had a tragedy in our family where, in a moment of inattention, my relative was leaving for work while her husband was taking care of their 4 year old having breakfast, and while backing out of the driveway she backed over and killed her 2 year old who had somehow crawled outside to say bye to mommy. 9/10 people i have recounted this story to have initially laughed and then instantly apologized. Sometimes something is so surprising, unbelievable, and terrible that your brain doesn't know how to react and defaults to laughter.
My condolences to the victims and their families. I've lived in the area of 2 shootings now, Aurora CO and Pulse in Orlando. It's completely changed how I live my life. My head is on a swivel every second I'm out. I don't live in paranoia, I'm just aware it could happen at any moment.
Don't live like that. It's a far more joyous life when you can live with the results of your existence and don't try to hold onto control, at least when it comes to stuff like this. Be ready for that moment when it comes but head on a swivel everywhere? That's gotta be tiring.
I have a relative who was a SWAT team member on the night of pulse. Seeing how traumatized he was from it broke my heart. He left SWAT after that and he went into a bad spiral for a few years. He's picked himself back up and is doing a bit better now
I'm glad you're okay. I live near where the Lewiston Maine shooting happened and these past few days have been horrible. I'm still terrified even though the killer is dead. The day after they found him (about 18ish hours later) the fire alarm was pulled at the mall I work at and I thought it was going to be another shooting. The lingering fear is awful and I hope you and your friends are getting the support you need and supporting each other.
I relate Charlie - I was in Las Vegas the day of the mass shooting there. Fortunately I wasn’t at the concert, but I was walking back to my hotel with my mom and grandma as we started seeing police cars and ambulances zoom by one after another. Seeing the concert footage on the news from our hotel room was horrifying. Fireworks in public still give me a startle because it takes me a moment to tell if it’s just fireworks or if it’s gunfire this time. If I’m going to a crowded event, I wind up mentally running through scenarios of what to do if a mass shooting happens. It really feels like the danger can present itself at any time.
The fireworks thing hits me too brother, i get you.. Feels like your stupid when you realize it was just a firework. The bad thing is, at festive seasons, im also unable to tell if there are gunshots umong the fireworks, thus going out triggers anxiety on some other level.
@@Raign999 If it makes anyone feel any better, I live in a country where gun violence is very uncommon, and I still have the whole "is it fireworks or actually a gun this time" thought in my head. . . So I don't think it's stupid at all!
As a Floridian, this is why I find it DEEPLY disturbing when comment sections of shorts or reels are filled with “this car accident or this altercation wouldn’t have happened in Florida because they would’ve just got shot”. This state is full people who are too quick to jump to gun violence….
My community of New England was struck and broken by senseless acts of violence in Lewiston, Maine on the 25th, resulting in the deaths of 18 and 13 injured. I know how you feel right now, just hearing about such a crazy and absolutely horrifying tragedy in your community shakes you. Stay strong everyone, and most importantly, stay safe.
Fellow New Englander. We actually had a military base that was 5 minutes away from where I live (in CT) be closed down because the maine shooter was deployed there once in the past and was considered a possible target. Its unreal that we're still dealing with this crap over a decade after Sandy Hook, which I am only 2 years older than those kids that died there, and that barely anything has been done.
I'm also a fellow new englander, Lewiston is only a half an hour drive away. It was a truly horrible situation and my heart goes out to all those who experienced it.
living in the hood, the response you'd get when you make it known youve been near a shooting is crazy. ive had a moment where a fight broke out and someone pulled out a gun and shot right in my direction as a car was speeding off. luckily or unluckily im still here but people act like it's so common that when i mentioned it, it was like nobody even cared, so its always so weird seeing someone so shaken by being near gunfights. even looking at the streamer being so estatic over hearing gunshots and the commotion is just as jarring. i feel like everyday we're in the dystopia we've been scared of for a long ass time, and the people engaging in the shit are the main ones trying to act like its just drama and not a serious issue im glad youre safe tho, and once again innocent people are dead over something that had nothing to do with them 6:38 is literally my everyday life
When I have discussed 2A with Americans I often hear "my rights" as an argument. Well, how about the rest of society that just want to be able to walk on the streets and not have to fear to be shot at, what about their rights.
Bro charlier has a phobia of mass shootings. Yet he spent more time angry at the camera guy than adressing floridas gun laws. The dude afraid of mass shootings thinks we need more guns. Its idiocracy and it will never get better
"I'd rather live in dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery." - Thomas Jefferson. Gun control doesn't work. its also a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. If you don't like it, then leave the city. Most crime is there anyway... and guess who normally runs them... Retarded pro gun control democrats. If we were actually allowed to enact on our rights and had everyone train and carry, this either wouldn't happen or it would happen alot less. But y'all been brainwashed to be afraid of an inanimate object.
I understand shootings are a scary thought. However, for me it's staying armed and getting training that alleviates the fear. I conceal carry. Truth be told, walking around unarmed these days is just silly to me. Not only are you putting yourself at risk, you're putting your community at risk. With no one there to protect you and yourself, you're not going to last long agaisnt some psycho with a gun.
The laughing part is true, my grandpa died on April of this year first, while everyone else was crying and sobbing, I couldn't cry, I felt horrible, my grandpa raised me, gave me my morales and helped me. I took care of him in his finals days and he always thanked me for feeding him and cleaning him. I never saw it as a disturbance. But I laughed and couldn't stop, my face twitched on it's own
As a mom of a 28-year-old and a 38 yr old son (both of whom live in Florida) every time they go out to a bar/nightclub, I literally get scared to death, have diarrhea until I know they are safe. I know a random person could just shoot either one of them. For no reason whatsoever. Scares me to death.
I went to a club that day as well and had that exact thought of "There's a lot of people here. I wouldn't be able to move through this crowd if someone started shooting" and it's fucking abysmal that that is my first thought when going out to have fun. Also terrifying that it became reality in a different place the same night.
Man, I'm with you. I was a teacher for a few years and nearly every single day I had to convince myself that it was unlikely a gunman would show up. And now due to circumstances I'm working in a very public facing job and am constantly worried that some random person might be having a bad day and make some unfortunate decisions. I don't like feeling regularly afraid in perfectly innocuous places.
I just want to say this is terrible and I hope everyone who lived recovers just fine, and those who passed rest in peace. However the odds of any person being involved in a mass shooting are so significantly small that there is no reason to spread so much fear as to say, “I don’t even want to go out of my house because it is unsafe”. This is simply not true. You may feel unsafe however your odds of ending up in a mass shooting are extremely tiny, not. Enough to warrant this extreme fear unless you also worry about randomly getting struck by lightning every time you go outside.
Huge respect for the way you talked about this, man. I really hope you all are able to feel safe in your own neighborhoods soon, and my thoughts and prayers are also with these victims who were senselessly and needlessly killed and injured.
I've been in traumatic situations where my automatic response was laughter; it's adrenaline and endorphins. Your brain registers that you're in immediate danger and that people are dying and it sends you a rush of endorphins that can feel and look like excitement and happiness for a couple moments. If you've ever felt similar, you know what I mean. I remember being stuck grinning during a school shooting (in Australia, too, so we didn't even have drills for those). Looking back, it didn't feel real. My mind kind of "moved back", that's the best way I can describe it. One moment I was in reality and the next it felt like I was just playing a video game and that nothing that was happening and none of the people around me were real. The brain is a powerful thing.
I used to work as a bouncer (won’t say where), and the worst night of that job was easily the day where we had to deal with a fight turning into a shooting. We got lucky that the situation only left one dead. We handled it, but there’s still a lot of that shit that sticks with me. I was about 15 feet away when it started and it really does change you. Clubs nowadays always worry me that some fuck with too much liquor and not enough brains is gonna start some crazy shit. Prayers for your friend Charlie, if it’s her first time seeing death like that, seriously check up on her.
I am 17 years old and in highschool. My greatest fear is a shooting like this. People often joke that schools are battlefields in America but in a lot of ways it’s true, I didn’t go to school during that national shooting day thing a while back because I am so afraid of that happening. My heart goes out to the victims, their families, and you all, especially your friend who saw it happen.
@@Albosalbthey’re still a rare occurrence. Also I’ll take being scared of a mass shooting over being scared of rockets hitting me. Idk I live in CO where we have two of the most famous mass shootings and I’m never afraid going out in public. You’re just a wuss
I had friends of mine witness the shooting. The scariest part is I was supposed to go with them to one of the many clubs for Halloween, I ended up getting sick and wasn’t able to go. I’m absolutely mortified, but I cannot imagine how my friends, or the other witnesses like your friend are taking it. Prayers to the families affected, prayers to everyone who’s recovering physically as well as mentally.
