Talking Black Podcast - "Is There Tricknology in The Harder They Fall?" 

If that were true why sell it to Netflix????

RIGHT THE PROBLEM IS THEY PROMOTE FAKE BLACK BILLIONAIRES. WHO ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ESTABLISH DISTRIBUTION COMPANIES.

@@mariahyohannes Netflix financed, produced, and distributed it.

@@RonHallKungFuBro The story got sold to Netflix is my point. The above comment states that we need to distribute our own movies yet the harder they fall was distributed by a white company.

@@jamalvines2133 I don’t believe Blacks aren’t “allowed” to establish distribution channels. I believe we don’t pursue distribution as a business the way we pursue acting and directing. Distribution of our own movies is a lucrative opportunity for us if we are wiling to learn what it involves. I would LOVE to invest in a Black distribution organization that is well thought out & connected. Let’s stop thinking about THEY & think more about US☺️

I didn't struggle AT ALL, with Black villains because it was an all-Black cast, without any "white saviors".

Yes that's how I took it , and Regina King did not play with those white people: They say something that even start with N. They gonna meet the same fate. Let them see your Faces . Queen Warrior .. I really think this itself is just a prequel, damn y'all know we gotta keep knocking and knocking.

Agreed

They’ll kill them before that happens. Hollywood Devils.

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The amount of rich black actors, producers & directors there are if they wanted to they could have. Not enough unity, end of.

Look at you doing research 🧐. It didn't occur to me that Cuffee was based on a real woman. (Although it should have.) Honestly, I thought she was just a wink 😉 to the LGBTQ+ community so they would feel represented. Wow Cathay Williams, 🐃 soldier!! Very dope. Thanks for sharing 👍.

@@jesushateswood I did not mention the fact of the "wink" to the LGBTQ+ community. This was another reason for this character in the film. Thank you for your viewing support. Peace and Blessings!

@@jesushateswood that's what I thought it was too. Gonna have to research her.

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What about the Barbie movie?

Plus, a racist sheriff (Richard Jordan).

It's a classic.

Yup

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Loved that movie

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Especially these days

Tricknology-free movies can only be made outside of Hollywood

Soooo, best you don't watch movies! Read books, instead!!!!!

Besides being entertained, I'm not sure what people were expecting from this work of fiction 🤔.

@@jesushateswood Exactly!!!!! 😅

@@jesushateswood Lol I just started the video and I'm going to listen to this discussion, but that's what I'm trying to figure out also. If anything the only purpose it should have outside of fictional entertainment is to invite ppl to do research on these characters and their actual stories. They didn't even know each other in real life so that fact alone should tell any intelligent being that this is not a bio-pic.

The same way most of our early elected officials were in states like Mississippi. Look up Blanche Kelso Bruce

@@WHG369 yes which was one of the reasons why the ku klux klan was formed because blacks were getting well established post civil war as entrepreneurs and being elected in high government positions.

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@@charleswoods9809 same to you and thank you much, many and more.

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Greatly articulated.. 👍🏾

the worst thing in black panther to me is the fact they saved the white man and then started showing him all of their secrets and science just for him to steal it like in real life

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I couldn’t have said it better.👍🏿

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tariq nasheed's hidden history museum is a great start

here come that black ppl hating shit...can we just have a great black movie and be greatful for that.....if thats the case how about yall make a movie so it wont be any cover ups

@@bayhopofmackland4796 I hear what you are saying and I respect your sentiment. I offer my criticism and opinion as a constructive one, not as a destructive screed. We need to support our artists and, as an audience and a media industry, work together to achieve art that entertains and liberates us as a people. Thanks for your viewing support. Peace and Blessings!

@@bayhopofmackland4796 Yep. I was fine with a black protagonist and a black antagonist. White folks were used minimally; which is good. The Harder They Fall felt like a graphic novel. I wanna see more Black fiction films.

@@jesushateswood that is also another reason why i enjoyed the movie " especially having minimal white folks" from the beginning to the end it was a perfectly written movie and the black actors did a terrific job...but for him to say that it wasn't as great of a movie really rubbed me the wrong way....

This movie was an anti hero movie in my opinion. Although the cast was all black, the characters were all bad and just about black on black violence.

@@rodb66 that doesn’t make any sense. No one looks at an Asian film and talk about Asian on Asian violence or white on white. Stop that self hating stereotypical narrative.

@@shaamilli3934 How in the world I'm O expressing self hate? I'm just speaking on what I had issues with about the film. We don't have to always compare ourselves with other races. I can't speak on what Asians and whites think about their movies because I'm black.

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Yup. They showed us killing each other. It was horrible. I was cringing alot through out. But then again it was presented to us by our enemy

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Same thing they did in Black Panther, while the CIA asshole was an ally.

PLUS IN THESE SERIES AND MOVIES THEY MAKE SURE A BLACK WOMAN KID GETS KILLED. PLUS THE U GOT TO GO AGAINST YOUR FATHER AND KILL YOUR BROTHER

I felt the same at first. I just appreciated what they were trying to do and saving the social commentary for spaces like this

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Exactly. The two brothers were to make balance. Not the light kill the dark. The dark is needed as well. masonic info...

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I commented on your review, but doubt if it will be posted. Thank you for acknowledging my comment.

Agreed

Yes, this film was fantasy and fiction but the question I have for you is why can't we have more black fantasy/films? How often lately do we see a black fantasy film. I'm happy and agree that these particular well known actors received work. You have to look at the bigger picture. From the outside looking in and vise sersa pertaining to black actors working. From the directors, producers, writers, actors and money put behind this film (THE MESSAGE). I've been in the presence of many black (movers/shakers) in the industry. That includes Regina King (twice as a teenager and adult). Blacks are always stereotyped and seen as a joke. Never taken seriously. Do you think thats a problem? Non-blacks put out plenty of crap on a regular basis. In the publics eye (white mivies/actors) are seen and portray heros, killers, saints, wealthy and every fantasy you can imagine. People of all nationalities pay money and watch these films (including the crappie white films). I almost forgot the distribution of these crappie films around the world. Some of our black films don't get that far unless the actors are extremely famous.. Do you realize how hard it is for a black actor to get an Emmy,, Grammy award? So getting a Nickelodeon/MTV award is the best we can get!? My point is that we are our worst critics. Meaning we look for things to be wrong with our own. From creativity, ideas, imagination and much more. We are definitely our worst enemies. Yet we aren't producing black films in mass. Why? Maybe because some of us don't think it's possible. Is it money!? I doubt it. Haven't we seen anough slave/gangsta movies? The bottom it's FEAR. I bet money if this movie was non fiction there would still be major critiques. No, this wasn't the perfect BLACK WESTERN FILM but for those who put in the REAL work to get it to the audience (blacks, whites, and others) it was a good job. That's my opinion. I've come to the conclusion that the most criticism comes from the ones that aren't doing anything to make a difference. So can you elaborate and or explain your likes/dislikes with this film and what you would've done differently? At the end of the day everyone's a critic.

"You said it was a western fantasy...made for the youngsters". Then you go on to say you wanted to see an authentic Western with these legendary figures. How are you going to have an authentic Western with an all black leading cast?

If you listen to the video Brother Charles is explaining the very thing that you are expecting.

@@divineeye2000 👍🏽💯 and let's not forget Unforgiven-Western-Fiction (great cast, production, script) involving both black and white.

@@fullcircleessentials You bring up some great points. It's like black super hero and fantasy, fiction movies are not accepted by ourselves or the mainstream. While the white superheros and saviors are believable not only to the white audience, but to the black audience as well, some fail to realize that it is still fantasy and fiction. As if their fantasy and fiction is more real and believable 😂. Its like the whitemans ice is colder!

I learned about Bass Reeves from Mel Brooks when the movie Blazing Saddles came out he did a interview and was asked how he came up with the character he replied it was based on a real person it wasn't until years later until I found out about Bass Reeves that I realized he was talking about him

@@kevinroshell690 Yes I am familiar with that interview with Mel Brooks . That’s when I found that when the film was brought to him it was originally titled TEX X. A play on Malcolm X. A lot of the Black experience was brought to the Film by Richard Pryor who is also one of the writers. Who was going to be casted originally as Sheriff Bart.

Agreed however the handful of black directors who have the privilege to make mainstream cinema are not thoroughbred, in Tuned with black concourse and motivated with making radical change however they are always confronted by white supremacy and a lack of activism. Bless

They definitely shape their works to appease that audience and seemingly especially when portraying an African American or black American story, fictional or not.

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Two Distant Strangers (an Oscar winner in 2020 for short film is on Netflix), Janelle Monae's 2020 film Antebellum and Amazon Prime's series THEM are all trauma porn to Black people. The Harder They Fall is indeed violent. It was ADVERTISED that way. However, it ain't nowhere near the mind-rape that exists in the above mentioned films & series.

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@@jesushateswood Absolutely agree!! I absolutely HATED 'Them' for that very reason. So much trauma and no resolution. Two Distant Strangers was deep. I didn't understand the trauma response there until I watched it with my BF (a black man) who for 10-20 minutes was visibly uncomfortable with the notion that there is NOTHING that you can do to avoid that end result. You make a great point here! TY

Very Well Stated. Truth!!

The point was to raise awareness. When’s the last time you even thought of these western hero’s?

@@doitright5819 All of them weren't heroes. A few of them were REAL outlaws!

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It clearly has a Tarantino's style.

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Me too. I feel like buck wasn’t the bad guy either

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@@kakashicowboy1399 sus

Thanks! Keep watching.

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Hollywood usually does that when they find something that's successful like black panther was. I wouldn't be shocked if we see it even more.

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Great character he was the hero of the movie

Robert smalls was a great man that more of us should know about.

I met a relative of Commander Robert Smalls. He was a Head foreman on a construction site, when I say he is one of the strongest man I've ever met the strength of two men he has!

@ warren speaks I would love to see a film on Robert Small's escapades...get it started

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You forgot Nubian ✊🏿

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Not sure if you're familiar with our ancient Kemetic deities but that was based of the fight between the Gods Heru & Set: Tchalla(Heru) & Killmonger (Set). I would go back to seek the ancient stroy and then watch the film again, promise you will see it..Blessed Be.

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All of the characters weren't heroes. Look them up. I did. A few were outlaws and criminals.

@@lc1662 I'm well aware of that. My bookshelf is full of Black Cowboy books. Lots of Hollywood's Cowboys we know today were criminals, murderers, and extremely racist.

That is right!! But we do have a lot of literature, for them to read and study and research. Books written by black authors, It's a must our black american children know the truth. With know sugar coating, we don't want them passive to these devils.

Birth of a Nation was good

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