if it would go together with racism and intolerance than jes indeed though as these are teh values of nigel farage im honestly embarrased for william that he keeps up with this kind of anti patriot as this is what farage is
William is absolutely right. Good manners is selfless and a person with good etiquette puts others at ease, whereas bad manners makes others uncomfortable.
Yes. It tends to be the socially anxious who attempt to make others feel inferior. We were always taught a “lady” should ensure EVERYONE feels comfortable.
It's actually nice to listen and watch someone with impeccable manners. It comes across as educated and decent rather than snobbish. Standing when a teacher enters the room, table manners, polished shoes and well groomed hands are a mark of someone with self respect and to be admired. Theres nothing more fanciable than a man with well cut groomed hair, crisp white shirt, suit and polished shoes🥰
I agree, he didnt look down on anyone or act snobbish, he just wants to act in a "proper" way. I personally dont want to start acting like that, but i have no issues with a guy who does
Our society has written off basic manners as being 'posh', which has given way to vulgarity and crassness. Nigel was uncharacteristically quick to associate etiquette with class, in my view.
@Coffee Arts I think Nigel is amazing to see this as a subject worth discussing! It's a huge topic, and even an issue in a multicultural society and perhaps could go much further if the discussion continues. Imho, the English do associate good manners with class!
lol the recieved pronounciated accent was supposed to be an accent to get rid of regional dialects andaccents by giving the uk 1 single accent people from john o'groats to the isle of white would have, but in practice it became an accent incredibly sophisticated people from the south east have, money cant buy class, you can be in a council estate in bradford and have recieved pronounciated accent, good manners and class, nothing is stopping you, hell isnt it easier and more simpler to wear a navy or grey suit white shirt and red tie you can get cheaper than gucci t shirt tracksuit etc
When etiquette is done well, it’s the most inclusive way of behaving. To be treated with respect, and be considered always feels good for the recipient, just as mastering well mannered self control is empowering for the host.
Must agree. As a cultural foreigner, it seems to me every British newspaper features folks (especially women) together with the news headliners, 'celebrating' the lowest of low-life behaviour. It's incessant . . . ergo the 'to be strived for model' for the mob. CUriously, the 'ladies' are always in a group together with no men arround . . . how come ?
The pre-programming in mentioning Blair. This is the Tony Blair Foundation showing it pulls the strings here. I’m sure you could probably find him amounts the directorship but will be telling them “call me Maranda”
I am not saying I particularly like snobby ‘Toffs’ but for goodness sake this country definitely needs a culture uplift, having shed loads of cash doesn’t necessarily mean you are instantly cultured either, far from it, I am certainly not spoiled with cash, but I like to have some standards and manners which I and members of our ‘working class’ family were brought up with.
I think we can learn a lot from Mr Hanson . How refreshing to see a part of English heritage, sophisticated and refined, unlike what we have today with people using vulgarity in every sentence . No respect for others especially the elderly, and a dress code that revolting, showing your arse to the world with your Trousers around your knees is just gross
People are not very culturally aware. They go to work or holiday in the middle East and their daughters will wear shorts and tee-shirts, setting themselves up to be despised on sight by the locals. Or they come to the west and continue to live as they did back home. Could this be covered by etiquette lessons at school? Surely necessary in a multicultural society?
The problem with most politicians is they are self-obsessed and think they are much more important than they really are! The education of children has been partly due to this attitude when they cannot be properly chastised for any wrongdoing! Use of language is one of the most distinguishing marks that place you in the social strata!
I have noticed a difference in the way us Americans, and particularly we of the southern & rural extraction use "Sir". We lack the historical benighted associations with "Sir So-n-So". In the US, I think this honorific serves a general identifier for someone who you are either unsure of, or choose to be deferential to.
@@alexsaynor6717 you're wrong about that.... maybe you should do your own research and not listen to the msm/police/government/judiciary and leftwing luvvies who try to silence and break him 🤔
I have two examples of English etiquette, from a chap whose family had lived in an 11th Century house since it was built, on an estate where as a lad he`d regularly go into the family catacomb to visit his great-uncle et al. I sold an Iron Curtain motorcycle to the charming aristocrat in 1989. Removed the front wheel & forks, opened the rear door to his vintage 1960s Daimler Majestic Sovereign and slid said bike in between the front & back bench seats and closed the door. I then noticed something unusual about the cars lighting system, so enquired. He stood there, a wiry little chap, all naturally eccentric and clearly appearing to have been plucked from history, plus sporting a black eye patch. He explained that it was one of the Queen`s old cars and that on the motorway recently, as he overtook a car at 120mph, he`d wound down the window, showing only his patched eye whilst waving at the occupants.
A lot of aggression and violence has come from the violent games that are available. I have noticed the young men of today are way too violent having spent hours per day just on graphic violent gaming and some have carried out the attack/ killing that were on those games.
The pre-programming in mentioning Blair. This is the Tony Blair Foundation showing it pulls the strings here. I’m sure you could probably find him amounts the directorship but will be telling them “call me Maranda”
I have fitted carpets for people who have been born with money & found them good to deal with, & I have worked for people in council housing again good to work for, & lovely tea, it's normally the people who have made money & are difficult to work for
well....that was interesting!! I was a bit cautious of William but I see where he is coming from now and what he is doing. I do think etiquette (or just good manners) are still very relevant and important in this world today. It is just how we apply it to our own situation 🙂. It really is quite nice to meet someone like William to know that you will be received politely and perhaps have some conversation with him before he moves on to someone else.
Good manners cost nothing but are priceless: stand when a teacher enters the class, observe local customs when travelling, maintain professional hierarchy, treat waiters and airline staff with respect and friendliness, be a gentleman in the presence of ladies, show deference to grandparents and elders. I have a patient who was my commanding officer in the Army 30 years ago; to this day I address him in formal courtesy speech even though I am now his treating physician and one might argue that the power tables are turned. It would simply be unthinkable for me to behave in any other way.
My mother sent us all to etiquette lessons called White Gloves and Party Manners. As children it did us no good, as no one else around us did this and we did not attend formal parties. It has held us all in good stead as adults. It is one less thing to worry about, what fork do I use, or how do I address this person, now that we do mix with people of various social status. I also had a job teaching Masters of Business students business etiquette at a university. This encompassed how to address people based on their positions and how to behave at social business functions. It was how to hold a drink and a plate while being able to shake hands, appropriate attire, clean shoes, where to wear your name badge (on your right lapel, because that comes forward when you shake hands), don’t drink too much! Etc. You don’t want to make a fool of yourself and risk your job. It’s not a joke, Nigel!
Some (actually, quite a fair number!! ) of university graduates at various companies I worked for over the years could have done with a few of your business etiquette classes.
He was caught off guard there. Normally he wouldn't have taken a sip unless the host would've too but the host gave an impression that he would and didn't.
About time-saving gadgets yet being time-poor: civility and courtesy - good manners - actually not only make both parties feel happy and validated, but actually save time too: because you don't then have to spend time making things good afterwards, or coping with any bad fall-out! Everyone's happy and has a good memory of the interaction.
And when does etiquette become a way to slap down confrontation? It is so often a precursor to the quagmire of 'offence speech' that we find ourselves in.
Contemporary British society ought to have more people like Mr Hanson. I am often bewildered if not also appalled by the foul language used by the British man on the street. It is endemic to your country that somehow to be civil, well-mannered, and modestly but piously-social piety-dressed and groomed is to be 'posh' or viewed to be belonging to the upper classes. That's twaddle. In Singapore, we are beginning to ape the worst of current popular Western culture, albeit in gradations down the proverbial slope. But for decades, because we are always behind the times from the West, we have still insulated ourselves from a commonplace verbal barbarousness and religious latitudinarianism that is just so British.
All these things the left-wingers hit people with; cancel culture, censorship, accusations of hate speech, people taking offence at the drop of a hat, taking offence on behalf of some minority group, all begin as politeness. And they are all designed to stifle discussion, remove liberties and oppress people. So while it is important to be courteous rather than rude, it feels tyrannical to place great value on etiquette. GB News is also the second talk show I have seen this week bringing up the subject of internet anonymity. Isn't that the real reason for this discussion? They want to remove anonymity so that they can arrest people who say what the state does not like. Just like the women in Australia yesterday: Monica Smit. 100% state oppression.
I love Nigel’s comments here! The irony is that his comments are actually a back-handed criticism of the character traits of many of his followers - although I do not expect many of them to even recognize that. Etiquette should be taught in schools!
I cleanse myself spiritually sometimes by reading the 'club rules' section of the Bel Air Country Club's website. Beautiful. So anachronistic to still be hardline about hemlines! And no bloody mobile phones at the table. Good on them. Sad that there are not more of these sort of 'club rules' for me to read about online in order to just enjoy the very idea of them :D. I sit, smile and just relish the idea of such a set of rules being enforced and indeed, lived up to happily by people. Standards are important in society. And I'll come out and say it: I'm not temperamentally or intellectually inclined to gravitate towards all this 'inclusion' dishonesty. And it IS dishonesty. On every level. I love things being exclusive, hand picked bespoke and curated, and I think people ought to be able to weed out whatever they want to weed out of their lives and that includes people and behaviours. Lowest common denominator is not a great goal to have, is it? I don't think I'm supposed to say this out loud though. Ha!
Regarding resaurants the dress codes are looser than they once were, Iused to agree with this . Then I was lucky enough to travel on a Cunnard Liner . I thoughally enjoyed the relaxed daytime atmospherebut to my surprise I enjoyed sticking to the Dress code in the evening . Formal , black tie and pre Diner Cocktail 🍸 dress . Itwas so incredibly glamerous and altogther dso Civilised . A Restaurant that Brought back this Houseparty Vibe would do very well .
Every environment has its own social rules and norms, and its always the privilege to the people who live in it. If I go to the back streets of London, I don't know the rules because I'm an outsider. So what's wrong with the likes of the Royal Ascot having its own?
There is always etiquette even if it's not called that way. If you go to a punk rock concert you won't wear a pin-striped suit and tie with polished shoes and if you go to apply for a job at a bank you won't wear a band shirt of an obscure punk rock band, worn off jeans and sneakers. You'd look out of place in both situations.
The pre-programming in mentioning Blair. This is the Tony Blair Foundation showing it pulls the strings here. I’m sure you could probably find him amounts the directorship but will be telling them “call me Maranda”
MAN LOSES TOUPE They seek him here They seek him there In GB News And Last Chance Bar. Those newshounds are on his heels. That damned elusive Andrew Neil.
Does he also teach british people not to intonate upwards towards the end of an affirmative sentence ? It may sound OK coming from a young californian, but not from Brits, please, it sounds so pretentious.
The etiquette i see everywhere especially from millenials is shite. The worst offenders are especially while eating, i.e mobile phones at dinner tables, & no idea how to hold a knife and fork properly, putting tomato sauce on a roast dinner, shovelling food in just with a fork like a slob (and the majority of americans i've come across) and more. It's not really high etiquette, just basically reasonable manners that i would know even if i was not taught it.
