Talking Points: The Irish Derby, Tony Martin ban and looking ahead to a stacked Sussex Stakes!

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Nick Luck and guests discuss a range of the key talking points from the week in racing including Radio Four's decision to stop promoting daily horse racing tips & much more.
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@davidwilkinson9876 3 дня назад

Been a racing fan for 50 years and never once listened to radio 4

@neilmitchinson2680 3 дня назад

Seeing him celebrating was a joke he even gave jockey instructions and even his sister said she was just in the background in other words he was still taking training it's a disgrace

@jonbon8598 3 дня назад

O'Brien the deciever strikes again, Grosvenor Square, used as a pacemaker, I was going to back it , but wished up, think long and hard before backing O'Brien second strings , why can't he be honest with punters, I guess it's his Jesuit background

@stephenholmes1036 3 дня назад

Agreed totally farce

@trevormeeks4084 2 дня назад

Who really cares

@arthurmckeown1937 2 дня назад

Racing is a joke. Non triers get ignored. Tony Martin is a total crook and gets away with it.

@stephenholmes1036 3 дня назад

No national hunt racing from, June 2nd to August 7th or 14th like we used too!

@johnristheanswer 2 дня назад

*to

@shiftylad9938 3 дня назад

Everyone over here in Ireland knows what Tony Martin is. I was told by good source he would literally go to box a jockey if he doesn’t do what he is told.

@adamweldon6957 3 дня назад

No that's gorden elliot and luke McGuinness 😂

@marioamato7102 3 дня назад

I would too that's your job as a jockey

@user-ev2dt4uc9y 3 дня назад

you will not see a venetia williams horse any way near there.Speaks volumes

@stephenholmes1036 3 дня назад

Spot on,

@ronanlee2242 3 дня назад

Didnt Jamie Spencer tell the whole world on ITV Racing at ascot the year Gordon Elliot was meant to be suspended, that Gordon gave him the race instructions. And the perfect racing world who does no wrong pushed it under the carpet

@otterkarman8740 3 дня назад

Love Horse racing , like most respect and dignity , wellbeing for the horse most No1 safety matter. Horse deaths could destroy racing, it hurts me so much. Very emotional seeing these creatures, trying so hard to please and pushed so hard, destroyed for their endeavors. Heart breaking.

@Jazzfan-xu9nb 3 дня назад

it was the same with Elliot!

@stephenholmes1036 3 дня назад

He shouldn't be allowed to own goldfish

@classactsexpertiseandinspi4815 3 дня назад

End Summer Jump Racing.No justification for it apart from short term income at the price of horse welfare. Also whats wrong with having each horse do a trot up/ vets inspection before each race?? If its just at the big meetings thats HYPOCRISY/WINDOW DRESSING. Do it for every race meet and point to point. It happens for eventing and there is less money in that sport. Also every jump course should have non slip showjumping surface on the take off and landing side, and finally reduce or cancel jump race cards (& flat?) at 25 degrees or above in Ireland, UK and France under the tripartite agreement.

@RobertLain-xn2wx 3 дня назад

Sorry to any owner.if trainer is found guilty surely now you've got to ban the horse from running

@trevormeeks4084 3 дня назад

If you ban a trainer do you really think they wont still train the horses from behind the scenes of course they will if you ban the horses owners will just move yards

@suemaher5282 3 дня назад

Huge racing fan but cant see the point of Jump racing on firm ground in Summer. Welfare must come 1st 4 deaths not exceptable.

@Martin.Lewis.. 3 дня назад

Wokey

@suemaher5282 3 дня назад

@@Martin.Lewis..Don't panic Martin u will still see plenty of Mullins in winter

@nightowl7459 3 дня назад

@@suemaher5282That clueless clown doesn't care about the welfare of horses.

@stephenholmes1036 3 дня назад

It never used to, it stopped on the weekend of 2nd June and statted again August 7th. Blame the horse racing authorities and stop AW racing from june to August too.

@user-bq5ht2no2c 3 дня назад

about the 4 horsies that died at newton abbot ,is it time to say we should not have national hunt ground with firm in description .these horses have lot of mileage you hope and with landing on ground with firm cannot be good for knees and feet or is it hoofs?

@stephenholmes1036 3 дня назад

No , simply go back to the old system no National hunt racing from the weekend of the 2nd June to either 7th or 10th of August. Ive seen horses run on the hard at Devon and Newton Abbott. It suited some like Mighty Marine and Wareath. I am a member at Plumpton and Warwick after horse and hound cup at Stratford i have no interest

@desedwards5396 2 дня назад

Yes, should implement 3 month break. The field sizes are poor, as is the prize money.

@pauljohnson8285 3 дня назад

I know he hasn't reached the giddy heights that once seemed possible, but Nostrum can still be competitive in group 3 or possibly group 2 company over 7 furlongs or a mile. No need to see him get run off his legs over six furlongs.

@emerald9049 21 час назад

why do they not run the irish derby and oaks on same weekend or day.

@Martin.Lewis.. 3 дня назад

It’s 2024. Who is listening to radio 4!? Seriously. Ridiculous topic to cover.

@spikec1803 3 дня назад

Shut up martin go an back some more crabs

@nightowl7459 3 дня назад

@Martin.Lewis For a very rare occasion, I actually agree with you on this one.

@Martin.Lewis.. 3 дня назад

@@nightowl7459 please break away from The Clown Club - the Captain has a long ban so I’m not sure it will survive…

@nightowl7459 3 дня назад

@@Martin.Lewis.. And what clown club would that be exactly? I wouldn't be so confident about a long ban either, they are generally quite easy to overturn, (I have done on a few occasions) and they have now just started giving out 24 hour suspensions I had one a few weeks ago and you even get a countdown hours, minutes and seconds before you are allowed to post a comment again, all very silly really.

@paulbegley6404 2 дня назад

Tony martin and the IHRB are a disgrace. Doping horses multiple times over the years he's been. But authorities slap him on the wrist. Should be warned off! Along with others...

@frankbrennan1619 3 дня назад

The huge big whopping most recent deaths of four horses at little Newton Abbott in one, single, solitary, Race Meeting, is completely shameful & totally unnecessary too for the reasons that Nick Luck says ie ''quite low grade horses, plus quick ground, plus quite extreme heat, is asking for trouble'' & little Newton Abbott most sadly completely delivered in the Asking For Trouble Stakes with these four deaths & what makes it totally unacceptable & quite rightly, totally disastrous for the image of National Hunt Racing, is that it all could have been near completely avoided & what certainly should be happening right now that EVERYTHING is being done so there are NO repeats of such a huge number of horse deaths in summer National Hunt Racing ever again.

@trevormeeks4084 3 дня назад

All trainers bend the rules to suit themselves IE to get handicaps down some of the trainers are expert at it .if that horse is allowed to run it doesn't really matter who trains it

@user-zt9it5ke1d 2 дня назад

Everyone all the pundits and punters Los Angeles reversed the form like I said he would. 👌💪

@ianwhelan6983 2 дня назад

I've followed racing for 30 years but have now given up. Far too many issues with it now and the whole dishonesty of it all is just unbearable for me.

@kevjohno86 3 дня назад

360p btw racing is really skint then,,

@200degrees. 21 час назад

Never give the bookies a penny of your hard earned cash , best tip I ever got !!!

@manx1569 2 дня назад

I agree that Hidden Law would have won the Derby

@michaeljohnson5365 3 дня назад

Newton Abbot as always been a graveyeard for horses just like Aintree and Cheltenham

@michaelmarsh-bl9mg 3 дня назад

Has

@michaelmulhall5007 3 дня назад

? What you on about

@johnristheanswer 2 дня назад

Fences are easy there.

@WerdnaLiten 3 дня назад

It wouldn't happen in most other sports; Racing is a laughing stock.

@leesaines 3 дня назад

It’s just another turn of the screw in the industry’s coffin….another aggravation that keeps you turning away…..

@andymoores2090 3 дня назад

Were ever money is fiddling goes with it and racing does it self no favours. Take huge priced horses going in and nothing is said.

@user-zt9it5ke1d 2 дня назад

Stop summer jump racing the ground is far to firm or have all weather summer racing. What concerns me is the amount of runners in races. Take Windsor the other day 7 races 50 horses running it's not good enough something needs to change.

@paulconey252 3 дня назад

He's irish and yous don't like him full stop.And it also shows how much yous have to talk about, is a radio station not putting out tips anymore.😂😂😂😂😂😂

@robjohnson2976 3 дня назад

Radio 4 Today tips were awful just as bad as Nick Lucks for William Hill

@kieran3389 2 дня назад

That maddy one is some clown

@robertsimpson4913 День назад

Yes but with 3, yes 3 pacemakers. Ridiculous.

@eugenekeher978 2 дня назад

Does Tony Martin have the right to reply .

@trevormeeks4084 2 дня назад

Why the fuss over tony Martin most punters have never heard of him. racing shoots itself in the foot by advertising these things ang giving themselves bad publicity

@michaeljohnson5365 3 дня назад

eat the food

@trevormeeks4084 3 дня назад

If these summer horses can't run they will only be turned into dog meat owners won't pay to keep them in their boxes at the end of the day they are just tools of a trade some will get hurt some won't just accept it

@sionrouge1697 3 дня назад

European racing is too dependent on 2 owners coolmore and godolphin. Thank god that would never happen here in the U.S.

@robertdelacy3434 3 дня назад

USA racing is too dependent on drugs

@sionrouge1697 3 дня назад

@@robertdelacy3434 the same drugs Europeans get on when they come here

@nightowl7459 3 дня назад

Sionrouge No it's not, there's plenty of big organisations, like Shadwell and Judamonte, we all have a lot of emerging owners like Amo Racing, Sheikh Mohammed Obaid Al Maktoum and Walthan Racing, plus plenty of small individuals owners who usually have decent horse, not much different to American racing really.

@sionrouge1697 3 дня назад

@@nightowl7459 we don't depend on 1 owner to fill a G1 race. That's race fixing

@nightowl7459 3 дня назад

@@sionrouge1697 How is it race fixing? I've seen a number of American races both on dirt and turf and you get small fields, we don't rely on one owner either, actually it's the Irish Derby today and Godolphin don't have a runner, but Coolmore have four and they don't have the favourite, it's a independent owner and Breeder who does.

@emerald9049 21 час назад

losing summer jumping would be terrible summer jumping is special even if its low grade.

@bilkomax 3 дня назад

Luck not even at the curragh . Irish Derby plummeting

@allanfarran364 День назад

Horse racing is bent

@off__world8668 3 дня назад

horse racing stinks to high heaven 💯 corrupt .

@gerryclarke7702 3 дня назад

horses can get jared on jumps racing must be watered as in show jumping

@aidankelly840 3 дня назад

They all forgot to mention They backed the winner Typical generation silver spoon staff British are just jealous of the Irish Tony Martin Just putting the cat upon The pigeon s Lol