Talking With An Enslaved Housemaid At Mount Vernon 

True. If we do not remember our history we are domed to repeat it.

SOPHJA SUO - True.

@@janellevans878 My people will not let the past be past we did not know them slaves and Our black people sold us Blacks for Penny's So Lord help us

SOPHJA SIDESHOW I’m a residential housekeeper for 16 clients for the past 28 years. Suppose that makes me a slave too

Janet. o Boutte - Well, yeah. We all are human, aka sinful. Still, we can ackowledge our fellow countrymen's struggle amidst jim crow racism, etcetera. We can all, God willing, build from here on though, wherever we come from.

@Smurfette Did It Unlikely, going "out West" came with provisions to pack and some amount of social security.

@Smurfette Did It Although I see the point you're trying to make, but there's just something reprehensible about not having the freedom to leave if you wanted to. Don't you think?

@Smurfette Did It Well, does it have to be one or the other? Can't we learn from the past and talk about present day slavery? Also, we should acknowledge all the slavery of the past that has scarred the lives of all races and has been perpetrated by people all over the globe. I do agree we've been hyper-focused on the slavery in one area and one time and one demographic.

@Smurfette Did It Wow! The rudeness and ignorance is astonishing. I think I'll be glad to not hear from you as well. Blocking me is doing me a favor.

Shes working,,shes fed,,she has a home...she can always strap on a tool belt and get up at 3 and do a REAL job like I have for the last 25 years

@Run Gunn All reenactors are trained not to break character.

What's the DMV?

@@terrigaines1812 D.C.,Maryland, Virginia.

That part specifically made me think of a short story I read for my lit class, I can't quite remember the name but it was about a woman and her two daughters making quite a production about some old quilts (for reasons well justified within the story). I had kind of an aha moment about that story's deeper emotional resonance, the long-term background people who look like me tend not to consider, that makes that story so powerful even if it is just three chicks arguing about blankets for several pages, when "Caroline" was talking about making her daughter a quilt.

You are so right about this. The quilt tradition in my paternal family stopped when my g’mother died in 1980. On my husband’s side it stopped about 7 years ago when his mother passed. She gifted all her g’children a personal quilt

@@kata1261Maybe was the story called ‘Everyday Use’? I think it was written by Alice Walker. I remember reading that story in a literature class in high school and it made quite an impression on me.

@@margaretforsey7763 YES, that's exactly it, thank you so much!

Her daughter that would not be hers but would be the property of her owners.

@@geraldritchey4822 Those would be the native traditions of a single tribe in a particular nation within an entire continent, not everyone in that continent, in case you really are that ignorant. To answer your stupid question, yes, I imagine life in their own homeland, with their own families would've been much better than being slaves to a nation of lazy sociopaths in a foreign land.

@@a.ros12 Isn't that where the slaves were captured from? Native tribes? You don't think they were captured from universities in Africa, do you?

@@geraldritchey4822 I'm sure a few were but many slaves were captured as prisoners of war during battles with other tribes and many civilian men, women and children were kidnapped from towns and cities across Western Africa as the demand for slaves increased. Read up on the subject, people were randomly kidnapped from bustling kingdom states, kind of how many innocent people are trafficked in the modern era.

@@geraldritchey4822 No matter which kind of civilization they were taken from, how could it possibly be better to be at the mercy of sadistic people who sold your children and loved ones at will, raped, beat and maimed you and could kill or sell you whenever they pleased?

@@geraldritchey4822 I have to say that since it was made legal inside the United States for over a hundred years that Americans enslaved Americans. People who make this argument always want to leave out american role, also on the flip side of this, this was a long time ago. To pretend that Americans didn't enslave Americans is not right also I don't like it when people bring it up to make it seem like all white people are evil. There needs to be a balance where you understand that slavery did happen legal government enslaved at this point based on ethnicity. America slaved Americans at this point regardless of which tribe the person was which was never written down btw. The part where people say which tribe it was is called oral tradition meaning it was hearsay. Rather or not they got them from Africa, and basically I think both extremes of this argument is dehumanizing to the people that it happened to.

Absolutely!!!

She's wonderful.

Janet. o Boutte Yeah. OK🙄.

Emanuel de Araújo So sorry for this reflection of what is going on Today☑️

Janet GFYS

You are very welcome. I pray that you and your loved ones are safe and healthy.

Ever race on the earth has experienced slavery at some point.

@@cattycorner8 Don't do that. Don't minimize the experience of people who still feel the scars from the not so distant past our own country, our own people placed upon them and in many ways still places upon them.

@@saberswordsmen1 Yes they have, actually. Africans do not hold the corner on being slaves. Whites do not hold the corner on slave ownership. Just as empires and civilisations have come and gone over milennia, so have conquered peoples been enslaved.

@@cattycorner8 The slavery that you claim that other ethnicities have experienced was not the slavery that my people ancestors endured and my people are still suffering from what eauropeans did to us. Indentured servitude is farrrrrrr different than slavery what other ethnicities experienced was indentured servitude not as another person put it chattel slavery. Also don't you dare minimize what my ancestors went through. You are disgusting.

I have people live in slavery and I talk to my great great , grandmother she told us of the times she was a small child how it was and they were sometime not too good. We love to talk and listen to her.

YT4Me57 it would probably be her great grandchildren

alice goodman people who want to make believe this was so long ago, but I’ve met a couple of black families with living family, from this era or close to it.

David Arriaga that would make you very old seeming how it ended in the 1800”s

Lisa Pratt it ended towards the ending of 1800’s and still people were somewhat slaves till around 1910

What's the difference?

@@tlwhite0311 functionally none, but it's a bit more respectful

@@the_bw_trekkie Explain to me how enslaved is more respectful than slave?

@@tlwhite0311 Thomas White I would guess it's because "slave" is saying that's just how the person is, where as an "enslaved housemaid" is a person who has had enslavement forced upon them. Its a subtle difference and "slave" isn't inherently wrong to say, but it's just nicer to use the latter.

@@Emily-ce7hd How is it nicer though?

I’m not feeling the heartbreak I’m feeling STRENGTH of character

@@forestbathing4443 You can sense the longing of a mother to have her children have a better life, a wife who misses her husband during the work week, a person who longs for her freedom. You know she is strong, but underneath her strength is the heart of a human woman, a heart that has known much sorrow. To be strong doesn’t mean your heart is never broken.

@@lisawise4204 agreed 👍🏾

Yes, the actor’s skills are superb

​@@lisawise4204 Well said. Her strength doesn't diminish the longing for love and family.

I find it hard to fathom how you could "hang onto every word" and still LOVE the demeaned position that slavery had placed her in. What about her life? Wasn't that important. No, I submit that what you 'loved' was how she described working for white folks and making them her only concern, even over her own children. Hypocrite!

Get your emotions in check people. I never said that I loved slavery. I was commenting on the performance she gave. She is a good actress and made me feel as if she really was from that time. She taught me about what went on during that time. So stop reading stuff and be quick to comment/attack the person who wrote it before you understand or pay attention to the true meaning behind it.

Of course you loved it.

@@mariyahisrael5508 I'm sorry, but how dumb are you....

History class was a joke in school. None of this was described and how do you explain such a violent, criminal adult topic to children? Instead, some big unknown words were thrown in to the short text. The teacher avoided being the bearer of bad news by repeating the big words. I asked but it was no answer I could understand. Emancipation, for example. He didn't dare open up to a student. The performance here is truly something to love because it is finally Truth. It is a re-creation of ugly history but aesthetically beautiful. You get fond of the performer automatically. Things which touch your heart are beautiful in that they lead you where you need to go even if it hurts. She has, no doubt, her own perspective about that chunk of history and the first President. What convincing talent she has to take the audience back in time. I'd love to hear her real-life thoughts about that history. She knows it from many angles and must have gained wisdom by playing that tough role so often but living today. More power to her in both times!

This isn’t a monologue. It’s an interactive history lesson with a history interpreter answering audience questions. Interpreters spend extensive time and effort researching the daily life of their character along with the time period and interactions they would have had with the people in their lives. not only is she acting but instead reciting she is google searching through her own brain on the spot for the answer while she improves filler conversation to give herself time to construct her script to act out. Extremely impressive !!

Ali Jane yes indeed 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙄

It would White parents too uncomfortable and they should never be made uncomfortable.

Our history didnt start from slavery.

What do you want our black kids to learn that our Black people Sold us Blacks How Sad

Nikki Floyd yes but they need to learn about it... they can’t act like it never happened. we are still feeling after effects of this.

The worst part is that she could sacrifice herself, and it would have no impact, "master" would still do with them as he pleased.

@@TheKim369 true. But impactful for her children. They're live their says knowing how she sacrificed ya feel me?

@@ayonnabyram1103 Excellent point.

Yes we do.

She is pretty

Please....I don't want you to be depressed about the history of our people. You ought to be to prideful about what you're hearing. I would like for you to hear in this narration the perseverance of our people and how they and those after made way for you......

I Agree ☝️

She is a good actress, and nice on the eyes. If she would not have been nice on the eyes, what would you have said?

Why are you upset look at the jewel she just dropped on you that is 1798 there was no law stating that slaves couldn't read did you know that a lot of slaves did learn how to read so much so that that's the reason why White's decided to say it was illegal to train slaves how to read because there was more slaves that knew how to read and right then there was white people that know how to read and write yet they said Niger meant ignorant right how ignorant all day they took a Spanish word Negra couldn't pronounce it and turned it into Niger

@@buttgoomagoo6919 you must be a troll

@@buttgoomagoo6919 smh

@@buttgoomagoo6919 wow I cant people still think like you

@Zoe Patience my pay barely covers my food, shelter, clothing, and required to be away from family much of the time

Kenan Ozer She had to provide sexual favours too l suspect ..

matt Kazz Good for her Master .not so good for his slave .having to give her body whenever he felt a need .

Carla Curlee What goes around ..Comes around .😊

Yet blacks were called lazy... ?????

1 Peter 2:18 Household slaves, submit to your masters with all reverence not only to the good and gentle ones but also to the cruel.

That was later during the civil war. They didnt have the underground railroad in the 18th century

Oh I loved reading about Harriet Tubman. They need her on coinage so we never forget history.

@@talosheeg The Underground Railroad is what led to Civil War, starting with the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 and the Dred Scott Case.

Yely 19 AMEN Sister AMEN 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😥😒

N even if they were married it doesn't matter

Because the south threatened to separate if they decided to abolish slavery from the beginning. The country was under English rule, which slavery was legal until 1833 there, and when it came time to set up what kind of country they wanted continuing slavery was debated. The south being stubborn and backwards basically told everyone that they will it sign the Declaration of Independence if they take slaves away. So our founding fathers had to decide between keeping the peace to gain independence from England or have the south break off from the beginning.

They didn't consider slaves a "whole man" only 3/5 of one so mo rights. That was the justification at those times. 😒

Founding fathers of bigoted, demonic self centered and sadistic creed

Adam Thank you for the lovely compliment. You are quite welcome.

@@brendaparker3107 You are nothing short of amazing in this role

@@sistalistna thank you kindly.

We visited Mount Vernon and I did not see or hear her. I want to go back. Whoever designed the property, whether Washington or someone else, was brilliant. It's so organized. Everything has a place.

YES indeed 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️

Acting and Reality are two vastly different things. The Reality is America wrote a check it's soul can't cash.

Thank you so very much. I am humbled.

S. T. Scott - Benign-seeming?!

Patty j Ayers hi. The slave women wearing clothes suited to the owners' tastes, providing food, shelter... I've heard - no shit - in a truck stop once a guy say aloud "when you really think about it slavery wasn't all that bad..." And proceeded to speak about the mutual warmth and kindness shared between master and slave in the US before the civil war. The absence of hostility, the benign sense of community and paternal concern masters had for their "servants". I was at a TA in northern Indiana (I 69) and sat speechless. What do you say...? The waitress placing the food in front of him had a blank expression but her eyes said it all. Yes she was black. About 40 mins later he finished and went to his truck. The rest of us - 4? 5? - just looked at each other like deer in a set of headlights. People often see only what they want to see and leave those around them struck dumb.

I love this comment! So many people don't realize that in actuality slavery was always the worst of the worst.

Don G. Agreed. The consensus is that the Washington's treated their slaved well. They were hands- on in the management of their household, farms and distillery; which made a difference; they knew what was going on. And, both Washington's were devout Christians; which moderated their reactions when incidents happened. The invention of the cotton gin; revived slavery, that had been slowly dying out in the central Atlantic states. There were many plantations in the Deep South (where slavery was profitable 12 months a year) that were owned by people who didn't live on the land and who hired managers and overseers to make sure that a profit was realized. The slaves on those plantations were not treated very well at all. (Being a slave is horrible; but being worked hard with little food adds injury to the insult of being enslaved.!)

Dear Don, As a lifelong student of history, I can still remember being disgusted by my high school history textbook which in covering American intervention in Central America, merely said "somehow, American ideals got lost in the process". There was no mention of the greed of the fruit companies, oppression of the campesinos, American violation of the sovereignty of other states and contributing political corruption. Even then l saw the phoneyness of this book. Eventually I asked myself "What is the purpose of teaching history? Is it to tell the real truth of how we got here? Or is it to instill patriotism?"

The Anthropologist M seriously? For many African Americans yes, it could be seen as painful, humiliating, abominable, and I'm sure there's quite a few other words I'm not even thinking of that would apply. It's not just acting, it's family's history. Painful horrifying history. Just like anybody that's a descendant of Auschwitz or other atrocities.

Wow

The Anthropologist M ~ Oh so you see no difference between two thousand years and a hundred and fifty years? Nor if your great grandfather and the ten generations before him encased in the evil of enslavement would really make no difference. Even the Hebrew people have honor for the abominations in their history. But you know of this since your schooled in the Franciscan attitude of kindness. That your entitlement as a white male Christian, both parents in your life and encouragement from them, gives you great insight along with the information from all your friends of African American decent and Jewish descendants of the Holocaust were able to enlighten you. I would recommend the book; "Between the World and Me." By Ta-Nehisi Coats It could help, if you have the courage to read it and not burying your head in the sand like so many supposedly intelligent people.

How is it painful? Because she's a black woman?

Ma,am I’m black and I can assure you that to those who are more concerned about feeding are families and paying bills instead of crying 😢 about the inhuman crimes of the past... you know the crimes that nobody alive today have ever experienced... are far less concerned about petty things like political correctness,and are more focused on the bare necessities in life. God bless your kind heart ❤️ but please... and I cannot stress this enough,please leave the political correctness to those SJW’s and BLM CLOWNS who use the past as an excuse to divide people!!!! And just ignore skin color and leave the dark deeds of the past in the past where it belongs! I don’t see you as a white,I see you as an ordinary person,my fellow American That’s it!!!!

led* You mussa not hads no book learnins eifa

Hello again. Be well and blessed.

Would she rather have been in East Juhunga with a saucer in her lip, and in some dumb native's harem?

Amen

@Sparrow Flying well you must remember that slavery in the biblical times were WAYY different than the slavery the Arabic and, later on, Trans-Atlantic Slave Trades. People were encouraged to treat there servants like humans. To treat them with respect. There was a time every now and again they would have the Year of Jubilee that the slaves would be set free. But what happened to the African ancestors was nothing but making people LESS THAN HUMAN, LIKE CATTLE. There was no mercy, no humanity. Conclusively, Slavery of the bible days and of the Transatlantic are not the same in morality.

light brite I’m hoping they are

"In his Christian New Testament Epistle to the Galatians, Paul the Apostle writes: “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”

@@TheJlb527 Nice justification for one person owning another. This is the selective morality that has come to define American Christians. "We treat our slaves with respect." Shameful.

She brings life to any story and this is a story that must be shared!

I love Townshead

Me too, today! I wonder if she's still at Mount Vernon.

@@plaidpaisley5918 Brenda is still at Mount Vernon, we're very happy to say. You might be interested in her new program: www.mountvernon.org/plan-your-visit/calendar/events/mate-masie/

Me too

"I find art in the use of the word 'good'."

Hello Caiuke, I think that a story such as this must make those of us who live in relative comfort be greatful that we weren't born in another time and another place or even just another place - still lots of suffering in today's world. We are all accidents of birth and I try to be compassionate to those less fortunate, as I suspect do you. You are a good person, be proud of that.

You must've went to a horrible school if you didn't know about this with the Washington's.

My school didn't teach me this. But my parents did... I love that the video is do educational

@@user-sz2px8pv3f There's a hell of a difference between knowing facts, and hearing someone tell their story. Imagine if someone told you that a close friend had been to the hospital for emergency surgery but they're now gone and mending.... then imagine that close friend telling you about waiting for the ambulance, how frightened they were, how they worried about their families, how they're so grateful to be alive but the recovery is painful.... I also learned some things about slavery in school, and a bit more as I got older; I've watched Hollywood representations in popular movies that we've come to accept take dramatic license; read moving historical novels with words static on the page - but I didn't even begin to understand the information until I listened to the affected people tell stories like these out loud. In truth I'll probably never 'get' it. I'm Canadian, white, with a distinctly different family and cultural history; I will never experience the type of challenges faced by this woman and so many like her. But all the textbook facts in the world wouldn't have expressed to me what actually happened if hadn't chosen to listen, too. Be well. ✌️🍍

@@fredflintstone8998 "We are all accidents of birth," is both the saddest and most beautiful thing I've read in a long time. Thank you for sharing it. ❤️🍍

Excellent point. Just watched a documentary called Southern Discomfort. Much about the culture of slavery and the Confederacy. Reenactors and the narrative of the Civil War, indoctrinating children into rewriting history. Much recommend.

I never retiring in America ever I don't like our country's history

I feel like our economy system as far as Jobs go has always been slavery mode for people with little to no education and people with disabilities and that's unfair.

We're very happy to have you. You can see a full schedule of events prior to your visit on our calendar pages: www.mountvernon.org/plan-your-visit/calendar/. Many of the character performances are held in the Greenhouse or Interpretive Center.

I hope you had the opportunity to come and visit us. My apologies if I didnt get a chance to meet you.

What's sadder is that slaves don't retire because they don't have jobs. They work until they die or are killed.

Totally agree. I admire Washington, but the fact that he and many other Founding Fathers owned slaves is appalling and a stain on our country

Your comments are very insightful.

It's just not right at all. It troubles my soul.

David Anewman you think men should be held in the same regard as God?

@David Anewman God is a jealous God we are only suppose to serve HIM...now HUSH DEMON

@David Anewman I DO read the bible..DEMON

David Anewman you are a sick person

Yes to know that our Blacks sold our Blacks for slavery is so heartbreaking

Get over it...

Janet. o Boutte Lmao, Black people don’t call other Black folks “Blacks”. Try again.

DADDY GIRL CHANEL ONFROY Get over 9/11, then we’ll talk. Lmao

Absolutely. I'm floored by the performance. Amazing!

Cutting family bonds is a way to exercise control over the population. Yet the enslaved clung fiercely to family bonds no matter what obstacles were placed in the way. Their preservation of culture and values is a miraculous feat. God aided them with grace.

She did that.

I'm glad you see it that way too. Too many historic places are now under attack in the political correct culture. I know one place who stopped letting their guides wearing period clothing for the guests. It could be considered racist.

Very good insight...

@Cyn McCollum you should not carry shame or the burden of shame for your ancestors. Do something to make things better in life for all people. Volunteer to read to children. Start a civics group for elementary students. Do something.

@@chrismadison305 you're serious aren't you?

@@chrismadison305 🤦🏾‍♀️

@@chrismadison305 Get out of the conversation with your ignorance!

Yea we the ppl .....created equal wow

Right!

Washington, despite his faults (including his dogged pursuit and severe punishment of runaway slaves), was one of the few to free his slaves in his will. It's not altogether a good position, especially by modern standards. But within the range of behavior of Virginia slaveholders toward their slaves, it is toward the better end of the range.

@@BradyPostma My issue is when people's faults are stowed away because we want to exalt them. It's so easy to want to cast someone as either hero or villain when the truth is so much more complicated. Does the fact he was a slaveholder undermine the work he did to establish the nation? No, but if you ignore half the story you risk glorifying a past and a person that never existed. There wasn't George Washington President and George Washington Slaveholder. There was one man who was both those things, and the more we can learn to engage with the complexity of historical figures, the better (and perhaps more tolerant) we'll be dealing with our own problems. And at the end of the day, we can't excuse people-owning on a sliding scale of morality because of how they treated the people they owned. Either you respect the sovereignty and dignity of all people or you don't.

@@dakotalee6990 - I upvoted your comment, so many powerful statements of truth I found in it! There was only one George Washington, with all the complexity that entails, exactly as you said! And of course I hold with the sovereignty and dignity of all people, and recognize that Washington violated that sovereignty and dignity. The complexity of human figures and the complexity of our comprehension of them means that we don't have to -- nor should we -- condemn the whole man for one awful aspect of his life, nor hide his faults so that we can praise him for a good aspect of his life. We can comprehend and independently judge all of the varied aspects of his life at once, with different judgements for each, each on a gradient scale of good to evil or even by a more complex model than that. His belonging to a class of slaveholding plantation owners is an aspect of his life worth condemning. His unusual efforts to rid himself of that legacy is an aspect of his life worth praising. Neither diminishes the other. He could have been an abolishionist, and wasn't. He could have been one of the most sadistically callous and brutal masters around, and wasn't. These facts place him in the context of his time and place just as much as they allow us to make the most timeless judgements of his conduct and character as we can.

The duplicity of the behavior of the "Founding Fathers" is obvious. They could have made their slaves at a least sharecroppers so they would be free. They could legally make them free if they wanted and this would set an example for others. Imagine a white person of lower social order witnessing the Almighty Washington or Jefferson free thrir slaves. It could have a big impact. But it all comes down to this: the founding fathers wanted to preserve the Union because it was still nascent and fragile and they feared reconquest by the British. So they let slavery expand for the sake of unity. They thus laid the seeds of the Civil War. It is not difficult to envision why the South dominated the politics of the US up to the '80s.

@@europeanamerican7658 - You're largely right, except that Washington did free the slaves he owned, that there often were legal obstacles that make freeing one's slaves difficult or temporarily impossible, and that it's a stretch to say that the founders "let slavery expand." It shrank in their time, and expanded under the rule of the following generation. The duplicity was certainly there, and the legacy was certainly a long, deep scar in American society, and everyone could have done at least a little more than they did. They deliberately looked away from slavery and let it fester in a variety of ways for the sake of unity and national survival, and that did plant the seeds of the Civil War.

Yeah it's 2019 and there's still slavery smh

@@william3589 this comment+username combo is funny to me, since Caesar enslaved more than a million people during the Gallic Wars alone, and many more were taken as slaves across the Empire throughout his reign

@@nopushbutton Islam has enslaved (and murdered) more people than any other ideology on our planet. The Islamic/Arab slave trade continues in Africa to this day! Islam claims that slavery is permissible because Mohammad was a warlord, who enslaved (and who raped) captive people. What ISIS did in Syria and Iraq is what Mohammad spent the last ten years of his life doing (albeit, ISIS uses modern weapons and communications) The result is the same as in Mohammad's day -- Destruction, murder, enslavement, rape.

I thank them

@@here_we_go_again2571 what a lie islam saved slaves as Muhammed proclaimed all are slaves to God not to any humans, and those who treat others as less than will burn in hell. You are fabricating these tales

Victims they were and we still are to some extent 😡

She did that.

Thank you so much. I am grateful that uou understood my reasons that the work is necessary.

I come from a family of cabinetmakers, not slaveholders. My family worked for a living. Not all white people had slaves. In the 19th century, there was an interracial marriage and that is how I am made. Unbelievable huh. No. True. DNA tells us wonderful things. No, I didn’t descend from African American, but I have a nephew who is half African American and half white. Confusing huh. My family is confusing. I am proud to descend from cabinetmakers.

Thank you for watching, Rebecca. Caroline's story is one of many

Sarah4382 describing such an ugly time

I will never ever understand the Evil of Slavery and what those Demons did for Hatred and profit of a human being!!!NEVERRRR 🤔🤔😔😔🙏🏾🙏🏾

She makes history sound ok but It was horrible and this, like version of American history we learn in school, is made to make White people comfortable. It doesn't really give you the true pain and suffering of slaves. It's as if She's giving the answers her massa allowed her to give.

@@MrsMichael829Jackson exactly 🤔🙏🏾

Her name is Brenda Parker.

well, inherited slaves from Martha Washington's Custis side and Virginia law made it illegal for George or Martha to free them or sell them. Hope this helps

@@ednakelley814 Thank you, for valuable information.

Martha Washington never gave her slaves up

You would never had the choice, but you could rest assured, death was always around the corner.

Me to

Brenda brings life to any person she portrays. Learn more about the life of Caroline Branham here in a video narrated by Brenda herself: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pWMIqBmZmpk.html