The thing about 1WTC and many other towers is they don't consider it an antenna but rather a spire. An antenna is not included in the height of a building but a spire is as they say it's apart of the structure of the building
I've lived in Oklahoma all my life. It would definitely have to be built particularly strong to withstand out weather conditions, but I would absolutely love to see this happen, for something so notable to finally be in Oklahoma. People give my state way too much flak I think
Or it would instead show up in Chicago. Or Las Vegas. Or Los Angeles. Or Detroit. Or DFW. Or Houston. Or the Twin Cities. Or Phoenix. Or Seattle. Or Portland.
This OKC tower would definitely 'encourage' some one-up height from NY and Chicago. Let's just hope that NY anyways - doesn't cheat again with a 400+ foot spire to lay claim. If you ask me, part of the Sears Tower also has twin spires, the base where the antenna mount to. If included the height would go from the 1454 roof up to about 1550 or so, which should really the pinnacle height of Sears. The OKC tower would be 1775 to the roof, another 132 for the spire to total 1,907 feet; blowing everyone out by roof, spire/pinnacle, or antenna.
@@rchilde1 Last time a deadly tornado hit Oklahoma City was in 2010, at the time the construction on the Devon Energy Center hadn’t even reached street level
Why doesn’t it seem right? Yuck, yuck…. Because it is Oklahoma? Exactly what did you mean by that? I lived in the Tri-state for 14 years. I went to Art College in Philly. OKC is a beautiful city with inspiring people.
I agree. I took it as, “how dare they”. We’re migrant-free and our police still protect our streets. I just paid 2.89 for a gallon of milk… I’d rather be in OKC over NYC any day for more reasons other than the current crises that are ruining these beautiful bigger US cities like NYC. Oklahoma is growing quickly. I’m not surprised about talks of expanding at all.
@@Dremag_Gaming its because those great lakes and east coast cities were built by urban planners and not car companies except like detroit, oklahoma city is mostly single family sprawl
Yes this would be incredible, i dont know why the reporters are disregarding okc so much, i hope this plan is just the start of many plans to make oklahoma city more prominent in the US
I live in Oklahoma, while it would be amazing to see and would bring a lot to downtown and bricktown I feel like a tornado would knock it down with the weather in Oklahoma it's sort of risky in my opinion not to mention the recent earth quakes we have been getting
Tokyo has major earthquakes not little ones, and Hurricanes and those highrise buildings stay put. A tornado may break glass however, is not going to put the overalls structure integrity at risk. This is a pipe dream regardless. I bet it does not get built regardless.
I would love to see it built, living in Kansas. It would give the midwest more then just Chicago. Realistically, i dont think it will be build with all the factors likegetting the public’s and agreement, designing it to withstand disasters like the comments above, the price (Devon tower was around 750m i think) prob around 2 billion or more. Also, it is necessary? I think they should rethink it and maybe shorten it a bit because it will look kind of awkward as it is a but away from dowtown
@green88108 it isn't necessary it was a "proposed idea" an "inspiration" and "unlikely to happen" first it didnt have a spiral then fast forward to January a spiral was added, however it wasn't part of the original plan that was already rendered and drawn out, feels like a publicity move just to see what the reaction would be and if it were to happen okc would be it.
It can be very successful to be located in OKC. Look at Las Vegas. It is out in the desert much more isolated than OKC and it has been very successful with lots of people going there every year and it even has an NFL team today. People thought it was ridiculous for OKC to have an NBA team at first and right away the team was really good and made it to the finals and has a great fan base. Right now OKC thunder is at the top of the Western conference. There is nothing different about Dallas and OKC both have the same flat farm land around them. Oklahoma does have mountains by the way . Oklahoma is the 23rd highest state above sea level. The Black Mesa has beautiful scenery with a very high altitude of 4973 ft high. Oklahoma has the highest hill in the world too. Cavenal Hill is 1999 feet high from the ground and 2385 ft above saa level with beautiful 2500 ft mountains in Ouchita Mountain Range. The Wichita Mountains are Beautiful too. You should really see Gloss Mountainns in Oklahoma as well. The mesas there look like Utah, Arizona and Mexico mesas which are located inNorth west Oklahoma.
One WTC is a major disappointment and cop-out. I hope they do build this, maybe it’ll make some other developers in NYC build something taller and better.
I feel the same. I think they need to tear down the fountains and rebuild the towers on their original foundations with a memorial inside both tower lobbies and the basement.
NY is a failing city, I doubt anything impressive will be made there anytime soon... Unless you count those pencil thin akyscrapers on billionaire's row. But I don't 😂
@@momoneyinvesting yea looks like you don’t know what you’re talking about. At this very point NYC is the richest city in the world, just passing Tokyo. So if the city is failing what is to say about the rest of America, because it has no rivals in the country.
@@tjr4459 crime is skyrocketing due to the migrant crisis, the city will go bankrupt trying to support said migrants for too long and the politicians who are giving them the keys to the safe are also driving business away. On top of all that, normal people are leaving because of all of those reasons and because living in a closet costs 6k a month.. I used to live there so yes I do know because Ive seen these things happen. I don't pull stupid stats out with no context
It's ugly and outdated. They could have made it something truly special but they only care about setting a record. how about making the most energy-efficient skyscraper...instead of the tallest one???? send a real message to the people
Wow and i thought Devon tower stuck out like a sore thumb, i was sure this was just a PR stunt for some headlines but they're seriously pursuing this, bizarre.
its going to go up about like 40 floors and then they'll run out of money, these vain projects like the line or this tower or jeddah tower all end in the same way, half built eyesores
It might look like a tremendous eye sore, devastate the housing market in the downtown area, and sit half vacant, but if it pisses off a couple of New Yorkers.... totally worth it.
That would be one of the worst states to do so. No port, GDP and completely surrounded lamd locked. No ine says "Let's go to Oklahoma" for vacation either.
Oklahoma does have a port, its small but connects to the gulf via the Mississippi river system. Only way OK would leave the nation is if it was joining Texas, our economies are intertwined, (especially water, TX gets alot of its fresh water from OK reservoirs. @@DemonAngelTag
@@DemonAngelTagthat’s like saying “let’s go to Georgia” or “let’s go to Massachusetts” most people go because of the good cities of Atlanta and Boston. Okc is currently the 18th largest city in the country and has lots of entertainment with a good sports team.
@@thekill4O5 Yeah I lived in OKC, (Moore) it's average, so let's not call it what it isn't. No mountains, no ocean, no one says 'lets go to Oklahoma for vacation" no real tourism and then it would be really isolated and landlocked. Meaning you are cutting yourself off and good luck without your own coastline for trade with the 29th largest GDP out of 50 American States. "Sports" lol You have the Sonics and Oklahoma Sooners and no major pro stadium, so its not like a Final 4, Football National Championship, World Cup, Olympics, Superbowl or World Series is coming there.
When someone mentions something good for a growing & thriving State Capitol… “…but tornados” THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE ANYTHING NICE lol Oklahoma City has never been hit by a twister (knock on wood) When people mention either of the Moore EF5’s they think OKC. No, there is Moore and then there is OKC. Moore is a city, a southern suburb of OKC. They are in two separate counties, Cleveland and Oklahoma Counties. Regardless of this (because anything can happen here in the spring & fall) it shouldn’t deter anyone from doing bigger and better things. I’ve lived here for 30 years and I’ve never seen a tornado with my own eyes and I live in the same county as Moore. It happens here, yes. But we always get right back up and rebuild and become better than before. Scary storms are not all Oklahoma has to offer either. We are one of the fastest growing states and OKC is the 20th biggest metro area in the country. Look at most of the big cities in the US … NYC, Chicago, LA, Denver, Portland, Seattle - look at what’s happening in those cities. That’s not happening here. Scary storms also happen most of these bigger cities with existing skyscrapers. Imagine that. I personally think it’s only right to put the nation’s tallest building right in the center of this great nation. Kinda symbolic.
We can see out current tallest from any Pinot in the city and surrounding area. It would create a beautiful view that other towns and states don’t have.
Okie here, tornados for some reason don't hit downtown OKC. Like, ever. It's very weird. OKC has some kind of ward of protection around it. Moore on the other hand....
Tornadoes break glass but would not threaten the integrity of the building. Look at Tokyo that has about a 1000xs more skyscrapers than OKC which are subject to the largest earthquakes and strongest Typhoons/Hurricanes. We are not talking about Dorothy's house here as the foundation pilons alone go hundreds of feet in the ground.
Tornados need land to crest havoc. Trees and buildings slow down the process for wind. So they never have and never will affect the downtown. When you from here you know. That’s why we not scared. And that why they tear up Moore and never downtown 🤷🏾♂️
this thing would make more sense in detroit, atleast michigan is a state people actually enjoy and detroit is actually showing signs of coming back (population growth for the first time in a long time, new skyscraper, new bridge which is big as hell and international)
Tall buildings shouldn’t be measured by the height of their spirals, but by the height of their highest floor where people can work or live. Obviously that would include sky lobbies, lookout floors, restaurants, etc…
I LOVE IT ❤ Remember we are competing with China and India and this is how our nation and it's economy stay ahead. Going big is very American. This is what having vision looks like. Bravo!!
The earthquakes from frakking stopped in 2013. You don't know what you're talking about, so be quiet. The biggest was 6.2. Nothing fell then. Christ you people are stupid
I have no desire to ever go to OKC. ever again. I get that a city wants bragging rights for something, but why not invest in a world class medical center, great museums,.or a zoo. How about high quality entertainment venues, movie studio or theme park. This idea is just weird and out of place.
yawn...a skyward desert? Any design that doesn't incorporate more eco features is outdated tbh what a huge, wasted opportunity to show people what skyscrapers can be
You're not from Oklahoma, are you? 🤔 It's our capital city... the center of our growth, it's gaining interest, not losing. (Tulsa is a better place, though.)
Tornadoes may break glass but they never level buildings. Live here in tulsa and these buildings have stood for decades through some of Oklahoma's most dangerous weather.
@@engineer40c89 same for OKC. It already has towers, including the tallest between Chicago and LA (excl TX). In fact, Devon Tower in OKC is already taller skyscrapers in MOST states except CA, WA, IL (of course), GA, NY, PA, NC, and FL.
You know super tall is being built in miami, a place that gets loads of hurricanes, we have the tehchnology for supertalls to survive natural disasters
There's no way this is going to happen. This is all publicity to scrape together as much funding as possible and then it's going to be like half that size.
Really now. And if it's happens, what kind of shitty thing will you write then? You don't know us. You're arrogance is blinding you. Be silent, do something else with your hands other than press your fingers or thumbs on the keyboard. You use them for picking your nose, playing either yourself. Keep doing that. Stay out of this discussion
funding was already secured LONG before the supertall was announced. This project has 4 towers, it was only recently (december 2023) that the 4th tower was visioned to be a supertall. The only question is how tall the 4th tower will be, it is phase ii and will depend upon how the rest of the development does (which it's expected to do well, hence the supertall vision).
It will be a symbol of forced laborers that have to drive in traffic to work in a building. Hopefully they plan for more than enough parking and elevators. Plan on 5 minute elevator rides if you are lucky.
Oklahoma is in the Bible Belt. I just hope god doesn't decide to come down and confuse the language on them like he did when the people were building that Tower of Babel.
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