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Played WoWs since 2015. CVs had me on the edge since rework and now Subs did the final tip. Just cant bring myself to start it anymore. This game was really good once. And the good stuff is still there but WG buried it under a pile of insufferable asscancer.
the only thing that could make this game fun again; adding a consumable that makes your ship unleash a bunch of balloons to the point it turns into a blimp and flies around for a minute and a half
The sub damage saturation is the worst. I hate when I land like six 406mm high explosive shells on a sub and it just takes it on the chin when that sub should've cracked in half
Even the most modern sub of any navy these days woulda simply cease to exist if 1 much less six 16 inch HE shells hit it at once but somehow weegee subs eat it better than most dds do
Yeah a subs buoyancy changes rapidly with any kind of flooding or hull compromise. You can find better sub gameplay in games from the 00s that sold on CD in store shelves. The balance of the game is less important than sales. What a great move for the franchise. Pushing it to the limit
The Uboats themselves sank many ships with 88mm FlaK adaptations for naval use. A battleship shell would send it to the bottom without much regard to deflection. Even splinters would sink or render the submersible craft unable to maintain its operational status. Submarines in this game should be abstracted as something else. Or a submarine game is being developed very slowly and out of date. The spreadsheet value changes arent going to ever resolve CV or Sub balancing and they are probably hoping no one catches on . Who knows but it's sad to see the game transform into a chore. Everything that made the game successful has been left as an afterthought. Battleship mains were good anchors for a point. Slow but they can make a decisive move in one barrage of the primaries. The cruisers and destroyers were fine as well. Refining those 3 formed a nice triangular balance in the game and was a lot of fun. Happy players = fun game and excitement. WG could just level with the customers. The game would be worth spending money on if they would release a remastered or classic version without the paid crates. Just have normal sales. Whoever they consulted for marketing is not understanding that new players don't want the game to play like a mobile game ported to PC.
@@Chironex_Fleckeri I completely agree, especially with that last part. PotatoQuality made a good video talking about it but to paraphrase, WG is heading in a mobile game format because mobile games rake in some of the largest profits in the gaming industry. You can see clearly with each event that passes where there are layered currencies designed to trick you into forgetting you're spending real money. Game design doesn't matter when you can release broken overpowered content that people will grab at with their wallets
Wargaming created a ship type that is difficult to be detected and countered by surface ships but can weaken the concealment value of destroyers and deva strike large ships. Interestingly, the most effective method of anti-submarines is submarine civil war, but most submarines prefer to destroy heavy surface ships for the number in the upper right corner, that is why submarines are hated by many people just like aircraft carriers.
Really? In co-op I can't even ping a submerged red sub let alone damage it. If I'm diving deeper and really close it lands maybe one time in 10. And yes, I realise this is a skill issue, of which I have 36% (T6+); but sub vs sub seems an unlikely most effective method.
Played WoWs since 2015. CVs had me on the edge since rework and now Subs did the final tip. Just cant bring myself to start it anymore. This game was really good once. And the good stuff is still there but WG buried it under a pile of insufferable asscancer.
Wait just until they will drop subs with planes. I-400, Ettore Fieramosca, M-2 and ofc Surcouf. Even Zee germans had something going on with the type XI boats.
Spreadsheet says it is not a problem and that you are having fun. I was watching Asmongold today dumping on devs who focus on spreadsheets instead of actually playing and doing things that make the game fun to play. His video was about DIV, but could just as easily be applied to WoWS
Here's an idea for WG how about for one season for randoms they give the option for no CV's and no Sub's and see how the spreadsheet looks afterwards... on if we want CV's and Subs in game...
I was in a ranked game were the enemy gato just press W and shotgun the shit out of our 3 bbs, nothing to warn, nothing to do we just insta loss and that sub did 3k xp.
So pathetic Flamu just has to laugh at the dented-ness of the game design !!! Yay! CV's , yay! Sub's, & coming soon ... YAY! Support CV'S , dropping mines all around us !!m. God i wish someone would clone the original format of WoWs!!! Even be happy if china did it!!!
Flamu, US subs have a consumable that boosts their Dive Plane speed. Regardless i too am surprised how quickly he dove away from those shells, not sure if he actually used it or not.
I am reinstalling the game after a long break right now. I don´t remember when I last played, but I don´t think subs were even in testing yet when I last lost interest in the game. Bets are open as to how long until I uninstall again xD
I'd almost accept shotgunning if subs actually had a weak point like all the other ships which have a citadel or how destroyers can't submerge whenever they want. One shell should devstrike a sub its just stupid.
@@jonasmunch2131so you run away all the time? Is that the future of wows??? Running away? Pfff, stop saying bullshit seriously. Subs are fcking killing the fun of this game
Could've easily dodged it by not starting your wargaming client and pressing on a play button... Not a single sub shotgunned me in the last month while using this lifehack
Can we take the League of Legends approach and REPORT anyone for Playing Poorly or Bad Manners for playing Subs and Carriers? Maybe Wargaming will pull their head so far up their own butt that it rights itself?
I do that every day, sadly I only have 11 reports because I can't get my karma any higher. I even offer to pay people compliments who report the subs when I run out of them lol
I got shot-gunned twice in the one game in the Tulsa, managed to dodge "some" on the first attempt nose on, 15 secs later a new batch came from 90 degrees and ended me, I couldn't believe how fast the Balao was, I was still in the maneuver from evading the first assassination attempt, the worst thing was I had Radar on the whole time and still had no idea where he was, yet he was spotting me the whole time.
This is why I dont give WG a penny anymore, and refuse to do random battles. Its so boring... Had some fun during the asymmetric battles, but they had to remove that in 12.6 of course.
It's still my favorite thing to do with the non-homing torps. Just rock up on someone at periscope depth and put a spread into their broadside - for extra lulz, let them detect you before you dive so they know what's about to happen. The salt is epic.
now now, they didnt say it wasnt possible, they just said it isnt likely because it "puts the sub in a very exposed position" despite it being able to crash dive faster than an Me262
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WTF i have just played a game in the kleber and the firing range is 1km short of the henry iv???? ive relogged in and its still showing 18.9km and I've had a few games and i can fire to nearly 19KM!!!!! hahaha WG you have broken the kleber thank the maker its so much fun from this range hahaha ps i have taken screen shots if you want confirmation 😁
I'm just waiting on the day that they give subs a torp that does infinite damage or some shit might as well given that they never intended for subs to be balanced in the first place.
I hate subs too, on the other hand I have watched you in DD's, Cruisers, and BB's get 5, 6, and 7 kill krakens time and time again, when a bad player plays a ship, like the subs on your team, they suck, when a good player plays a ship, like the Balao on the red team, they get some kills too. A really good player can kill even you my friend, in a dd, a sub or a bb.
There's a reason I love watching this game but hate playing this game. And that reason is not paying WG a single dubblooon. Don't invest in WG and find a decent gaming company to support.
I'm so glad i cannot play this game anymore becausz my internet data got limited so i can't update the game (and my account is EU so i'd get a shitty unplayable ping since i moved somewhere where an ASIA account would be better), because holy shit this is so fucking bad, the game is in a trash state.
SUBMARINE SHOTGUN ATTACKS are EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT... I doubt I'll be seeing another one any time soon... LOL! WeeGee: Here's a MILLION F11's for a job well done at turning the game into an epic shit-storm.
I averaged 60% WR over 10k games and never in my life since 2016 have i felt so helpless after being shotgunned in my DD by subs. I cant push caps with friendly BBs anymore so just kite until its clear and its almost impossible to gain damage if theres a sub between me and the enemy team. Went from 1-200k damage games to 10-30k when there is a sub at my caps.
Enjoyed the video more because I enjoyed watching you laugh at the stupidity of it all rather than appreciation for gameplay from anyone else on your team or red. Shotgunning not a thing Flamu - Ahskance would tell you that the submarine players were just really good at "reading the turn". #justdodge. Frankly when BG3 launches on 3rd August I will join the army of people who are now finding something else to do with their time.
Its like mario kart when your on the third lap and there's green shells bouncing everywhere and everyone behind you have red shells loaded and you then hit that banana skin . (obviously though Mario kart is real fun)
See, the joke is that it's a metaphor for what WeeGee are doing to their own game. Just shitting all over it, until only the financially incentivised still play the garbage.
If they don't kill you on the shotgun they can just surface into you and do absurd damage ramming. I sincerely wish unhappy and short lives for WG execs.
this game is so full of bs ....wg is just killing there own game...i played massachuttes today a cruiser full broadside 5km and i couldnt even get cit hit and damage 4k....this game is the joke of the century ....bringing bs ships out but decent balance i think wg never heard of that
