I've only ever Read about Tamara Karsavina in books, so it's Amazing to see her live on film! She looked to have great turnout and Lovely Quality. Interesting how she did the "Isadora Duncan style" exercises when she was dancing outside ( with her cat! How precious! 😸) Fantastic Video Footage of this Legendary Ballerina! BRAVO! 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
Despite the technical inadequacies of film in that era, you can see what a beautiful dancer Karsavina was. Her lovely feet and arms. I know. I know. Everyone has already said this.
yes absolute technique is not the mark of a great dancer - they need to bring much more and more important things to the table. and i've said it again! :)
This is such wonderful footage. It's great being able to see the dynamics of an artist we usually only read about. It's also wonderful to see how much ballet has stayed the same and how much it has evolved. Much of her quality of technique would be considered amateur today.
and much of the quality of technique of today would look weirdly robotic and cold to the dancers from back then. technique wasn't worse, they just had different goals with what they were trying to accomplish.
Sima Raft yes, she seems to someone who just robustly got on with things - without potentially weakening self-doubt, which i really admire, though i don't too much judge the opposite - as self-doubt can push you further sometimes - quite tangentially i read today an interesting teaching point Karsavina gave Antoinette Sibley when she coached her in 1959: "To get the full benefit from battements frappés we must train our muscles to give a quick reaction. This means that the dégagé must be sharp and in the nature of a 'hit out’."
John Hall Yes indeed, to become the dancing body is what gives the freedom Karsavina displays. That muscle memory they talk of is as much aesthetic identity!
+Sima Raft Her arms are so perfect. And her body...it is unspeakable. Karsavina was a beautiful dancer with the most perfect arms a dancer would ever want.
Silver cupcake, how can you say that her arms are perfect ? They are all over the place ! Also her technic I find sloppy, she has no suppleness in the back or feet. In fact she looks like an average amateur student to me, nowadays she would not be accepted at a conservatory with a builld like that. If she was a prima ballerina I shudder to think what the dancers in the corps de ballet were like ! How the profession has chanced over the years !
+Siegfried yes, you get a real sense of the dancer from these bits of footage - even more so from 'Tamara Karsavina 'The Torch Dance' (1909)' which i've also uploaded.
She really gets a lot of air time on those jumps. It's amazing. It's hard to see her form during the barre work because the exercise jumper is so big. But I can see she is flexible and quite capable of big extensions. But she holds to strict classical positions.
the italian method of the late 19th c that so influenced the russian technical style prohibited raising the leg much above 90 degrees. the old feench method loved big extensions, but it was effectively wiped out after the creation of the classical russian school in the beginning of the 20th century. the russians and french slowly got the legs back up during the 20th c, but now dancers are realizing the very high extensions aren't as conducive to balances and turns.
удовольствие! я уверен, что вы увидели этот ранний (1909) отснятый материал, но на всякий случай у вас нет ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kuFwqTmVfeo.html
La grande Tamara si deve vedere pensando al suo tempo che era limitato come regola l'altezza della gamba ed altro in più la ripresa che ingrassa ma ... era stupenda per espressione vivacità ed immersione di ciò che ha ballato. Marit Bech
Творения Леонардо и Микеланджело насчитывают много веков, но почему то по прошествии времени никто их не переплюнул. Почему когда мы видим, что балерины прошлого века танцуют как толстозадые барашки на полянках мы сваливаем их бесталанность на время?
Wow you are being so mean … I think mediocrity is very refreshing! especially nowadays where everything has to be perfect. It’s good to see someone wasn’t “the best of the best” and still was appreciated and had a good career , don’t you think that’s motivating to start something you always wanted to try? Way more motivating than to think all the time: I can only start when I know I will train to perfection and be better than everyone before. Humans are not perfect and therefore shouldn’t be required to perfection at all
@@haselnusszweig5533 Career and fame are not indicators of talent. It's better to dance well alone at home than to receive undeserved applause on stage. Let's face it: Karsavina is a bad dancer. Unlike the brilliant artists I have listed, whose masterpieces are amazing in our time, today Karsavina’s dance is funny and has the same value as some kind of archaeological excavation.
@@JohnRaymondHall I can't say for sure but this company released a film they claimed was Nijinsky and it was not. The likelihood of this being the great ballerina is much stronger than the one of Nijinsky tho
@@JohnRaymondHall c'est pour ça que les commentaires qui disent qu'elle n'était pas si extraordinaire que ça...tous les critiques, unanimes à reconnaître son talent (et fort difficiles) se seraient donc trompés ? 😂
@@isabellejlv4668 bien sûr, elle était extraordinaire :) la technique s'est développée depuis que Karsavina dansait mais ce n'est pas une simple question de technique - c'est ce que vous faites avec n'importe quelle technique que vous possédez - artistiquement
It's interesting to watch, but again her movements seem not legato and not very thoughtful. Sudden energetic movements that were apparently her style. She looks like she's trying to go for a vaguely Duncaneaque free.style...like something from ancient Greek.art. Seen that way - as not-ballet -.it's an interesting historical document - some.early-20th-century atrempt to.recreate.ancient Greek art.
yes, she moves not smoothly from position to position but there is a rapid accelerated rush from one to another - yes "energetic movements that were apparently her style"
@@amina-md4fy I wonder why? The technique was terrible even compared with Anna Pavlova. I love dancing but I am not a ballerina. I was doing rhythmic gymnastics as a child but my flexibility was about the same as Tamara and I see her limitations. Her sudden moves are what I was doing to cover my problems. I love improvisation but I just dance for myself. I think any healthy woman can do so incoherent jumps but who would like to watch it now if you can watch Sylvia Guillem? But it is really great to see this piece of history. I guess ballet progressed forward a lot.
Now the dancers are more concerned with being perfect in everything and by seeking more and more, they end up giving less to the public. There is something in the old ballet that has been lost, above all the captivating. That way in which you connect with the spectator is not given to you by any technique.@@ekaterinaponizovskayadevin2812
@@bubu4433 I disagree. I think they give more because the technique is not the issue anymore. They are more expressive. As to the old ballet, I feel as if they were trying to speak with tape on the mouth. And the modern ballet took the tape off and now I can understand the words.
