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Tank Museum Historian David Fletcher presents a Tank Chat on the Carrier, Tracked, CT20, otherwise known as the Oxford Carrier. This unusual vehicle was an early post-Second World War British Armoured Personnel Carrier and Gun Tractor, which saw service in the Korean War. David also touches upon the Cambridge Carrier, built by Rolls-Royce as an updated and improved version of the Oxford, which never got out of the prototype stage.
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15 апр 2021

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@jacobfarley2332 3 года назад

They're bound to interesting if I'm talking about them. David knows why we're here

@DarknessInferno15 3 года назад

I think he actually meant that like "I wouldn't be making a video talking about it if it wasn't interesting."

@kenbrown2808 3 года назад

and he's not wrong.

@jacobfarley2332 3 года назад

@@DarknessInferno15 I'd listen Fletcher take about toaster oven maintenance and it's probably be fascinating

@Vojtokae 3 года назад

@@jacobfarley2332 Yeah, he´s like James May of tanks.

@616702 3 года назад

@@jacobfarley2332 lol

@richardklug822 3 года назад

"If you want to see one, this is where you have to come, in this dark and gloomy place"...classic Fletcher comment! Gotta love him!

@camoman7342 3 года назад

I'd rather spend a day in that warehouse than ANY amusement park.

@camoman7342 3 года назад

@Rodolfo Ramos Absolutely!

@richpurslow3283 3 года назад

Absolutely

@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад

Indeed, and I'd even bring provisions such as tea, bisquits and possibly something to toss on the grill with a few pints to lead and chase the grilled cuts for the local mustached strays if I had to bribe/distract them to get in ;)

@mh53j 3 года назад

Spent my honeymoon at Aberdeen Proving Grounds when the Ordnance Museum and all the tanks were still there. I'm single now....

@NZobservatory 3 года назад

I love tanks, but Tokyo Disneysea takes some beating. xD

@Kevin-mx1vi 3 года назад

I nearly jumped out of my skin when I saw the photo of the Cambridge carrier because the squaddy standing in front of it looks very much like my dad, who did his National Service from 1948-1950(ish) and was in the Queens Own Hussars as a tank driver. Whoever it is, he has the same ears as me ! (I didn't win The Cup, but I've got its handles) 😉

@PibrochPonder 3 года назад

It might be your dad. You never know what your mum got up to 😉

@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад

@@PibrochPonder Ooof, that's a low blow...

@Kevin-mx1vi 3 года назад

@@PibrochPonder Nah, my mum's a Methodist - they're not allowed to enjoy themselves. 😉

@luisnunes2010 3 года назад

Thanks to the officer that preserved this vehicle. It's a very interesting step in the creation of the apc.

@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад

Indeed,it was also very interesting to learn that the Brittish APCs were purpose built from the ground up from the start unlike the APCs of my own country that started out as superstructure conversions of the Czceck 38t tank.

@luisnunes2010 3 года назад

@@SonsOfLorgar Yeah, and this is probably the first purpose built apc, unless you count the skdfz half-track.

@JessWLStuart 3 года назад

"It's quite an interesting vehicle all them same, as they always are when I'm talking about them!" - David Fletcher Yep! Very true in my opinion!

@WanderlustZero 3 года назад

That roundel is amazing

@fuferito 3 года назад

We all heard the chat, but let's get real here, folks. The true carrier on the right track is our old boy, David Fletcher.

@james.black981 3 года назад

Absolutely

@foxtrotromeo25 3 года назад

David knocks another Chat out of the park.

@vaclav_fejt 3 года назад

French people: "What did the poor animal do to deserve that?" O_o

@sadwingsraging3044 3 года назад

I want to thank that officer who snatched that vehicle off the firing line and saving that bit of history. Well done whoever you are!

@fed0t38 3 года назад

I really wish I can one day come to that dark and gloomy place.

@Masada1911 3 года назад

Likewise. I don’t think people can freely walk around the VCC though.

@foo-foocuddlypoops5694 3 года назад

You can during certain events. Definitely worth it.

@XboxBruka 3 года назад

@@Masada1911 During Tankfest you can

@ericgrace9995 3 года назад

The lockdown has left many of us in a dark and gloomy place....

@Niterider73 3 года назад

I dare say it almost sounds like Mr Fletcher may have a bit of a throat cold. Hopefully he gets to feeling better soon. Nonetheless still a very stunning video!

@marcoflumino 3 года назад

I was worrying about it, I hope is it only that...

@harryballsacky 3 года назад

SEND SCOTCH

@maxkronader5225 3 года назад

"It's quite an interesting vehicle all the same, as they always are when I'm talking about them. " 😁👍

@lairdcummings9092 3 года назад

Classic David.

@tasman006 3 года назад

Out of all the books and documentaries I've watched on armored vehicles for 43 years this one got by me, fascinated. Brought to me by the man himself awesome.

@Peter-lm3ic 3 года назад

When I served in Germany 1950/51 with 1QRR we had half a dozen Oxford’s used for towing our 17pdrs.. Previously when we had 6pdrs I believe they were towed by the Universal Carrier. The Oxfords were quite massive and unlike the Universal Carrier they had a metal tubular frame to support a canvas cover to keep the crew dry in the rain. As a foot slogger we was quite envious!

@grcyvtcffuubucfuv 3 года назад

I would enjoy listening to David talk about my 2015 Honda civic.

@PibrochPonder 3 года назад

I can imagine him doing that if they start talking about terrorist vehicles

@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад

@@PibrochPonder i thought they prefered pickups, SUVs and family vans, a civic can't handle a pintle MG, nor the weight of a decent 'blockbuster' IED...

@mebsrea 3 года назад

Unfortunately, jokes about terrible electrical systems and unreliable mechanicals just don’t work with Honda products. Wait, maybe that’s *not* unfortunate.

@ronnievaughn1257 3 года назад

He really is a world treasure, I would love to just spend the day just hanging around him, wouldn't even have to talk to him just listen to his unending knowledge on military vehicles.

@Simon_Nonymous 3 года назад

"Don't forget to subscribe." For a brief moment I saw Lord Kitchener's face as the right hand went up to point at me! Nice video - you can almost see the Universal Carrier morphing into the FV432.

@andrewsteele7663 3 года назад

I can listen to David all day, my bucket list starts with a visit to the The Tank Museum, and pretty much finishes there. I told my partner that the week that I am at the museum, she should find shops to visit. She turned around and said she is coming to. It must be true love, David Fletcher for PM, Cheers

@tommyfred6180 3 года назад

the number of vehicles that have ended up as a hard target is shocking. thankfully this one got saved.

@anthonylee6322 3 года назад

I so look forward in all of his tank chats. I wish I would be able to meet David for a meal on me. History is so important to us all. God Bless you. From across the pond in the colonies.

@Winterx69 3 года назад

Very nice being able to see more about these rarities. I've actually been able to see an Korean War time Oxford Carrier on display at the Military Museum in Beijing and had been hoping to get to know more about these. Many thanks. If anyone ever gets to Beijing, make sure to make an advance reservation. Very nice museum altogether.

@roborapter1 3 года назад

I absolutely adore everything the Tank museum does. Another fantastic video! Thank you

@kippamip 3 года назад

As soon as i seen the Cambridge variant my first thoughts were fv432. Great to see some of the more quirky vehicles in the collection.

@giganaut6007 3 года назад

the cambridge carrier looks adorable with its proportions when seeing it in the angled photos of it outdoors

@davelewis3255 3 года назад

The Cadillac V8 and hydromatic transmission was a well liked and well proven drive system in US vehicles. It was used in the M-5 and M-24 tanks. An older friend was a crewman on an M-24 in Europe in the early 50s and he said that the tanks were very reliable, easy to maintain, and easy to drive because of the automatic transmission.

@jeffhallel8211 3 года назад

I'm surprised that they did not use the packard straight 8,It was in production untill 1953.Not saying it was better than GM just that it might be a lot easier to install.

@TheSpritz0 3 года назад

When David Fletcher gives a lecture on any armored vehicle, we in Canada are not only listening but APPRECIATING!!!

@foamer443 3 года назад

I would like to hear what he has to say about the Lynx. I wonder if the Tank Museum has one?

@TheSpritz0 3 года назад

@@foamer443 Look on Wikipedia under "Lynx reconnaissance vehicle" first photo is the one they own at Bovington...

@derekmills1080 3 года назад

Thank you, David, thoroughly enjoyable.

@lalucre1803 3 года назад

David Fletcher is the David Attenborough of tanks.

@N_Wheeler 3 года назад

1:42 the 4.2 inch mortar; haven't heard a historian mention one of those before - which yet again proves the worth of David John Fletcher, MBE. The U.S. Army used 4.2" rifled(!) mortar - the "Four-Deuce" - for 50 years in two types: M2 and M30.

@johncoffin9354 3 года назад

That's the same one. The U.S. essentially licensed the British design. I don't know if they were interchangeable. There's a story of a battery of 4.2s, in their truck, coming under fire from a battery of 88mm guns. They hauled off the road, set up the mortars, and silenced the German gunners.

@earlyriser8998 3 года назад

I love these unique and forgotten vehicles. Thanks for keeping them alive in history.

@tonyjedioftheforest1364 3 года назад

Love this channel, I love military history and this is a great place to learn. Thank you for sharing.

@loupiscanis9449 3 года назад

Thank you , Mr Fletcher .

@StealthySpace7 3 года назад

Glad to see David’s still going strong.

@brianburdette2283 3 года назад

Greetings from across The Pond David ! “Happy Patriots’Day!”😁🇺🇸🇬🇧

@Nodjia 3 года назад

David Fletcher is a treasure. I love these videos, always look forward to the next one.

@Tutel0093 3 года назад

Losing the voice But never the spirit

@Duke_of_Petchington 3 года назад

Get fletcher a nice hot brew, he earned it by doing this vid with a throat cold

3 года назад

Another splendid talk. Intereting to see the liniage from the universal carrier to the ones in service decades later.

@kyle857 3 года назад

The Brits sure loved their funny little armored boxes.

@Pappenheim40 3 года назад

Hi you all, greets from Vienna!

@michaelguerin56 3 года назад

Great to see the transition from the Lloyd and Universal Carriers to the FV432. Thank you.

@kesfitzgerald1084 3 года назад

Good to see Wolseley maintained their design aesthetic for subsequent vehicles 😀

@iowadragoncountryoutlaw.2429 3 года назад

Nice little vehicles. Seemed versatile.

@ivorytitan7653 3 года назад

Glad to say I recently bought the tank book. Glad to be able to support the museum! As for the delivery, well we are checking

@timothyfricker7413 3 года назад

The transmission and engine layout carried onto the 430 series in the 431 cargo carrier

@burningb2439 3 года назад

Great seeing Mr Fletcher complete with his all amusing hilarious dry wit ..

@hydorah 3 года назад

Oxford and Cambridge carriers... My God I can feel the rivalry! Which one has the greater proportion of First Class degrees? Which one's fastest when rowed by 4 blokes?

@davidjones332 3 года назад

That reminds me of the US Admiral Dewey. Apparently on the eve of the Battle of Manila Bay he got an urgent signal wanting recommendations for ship names at a time when the US was using college names. He signalled "Vermont Normal College for Girls".

@tando6266 3 года назад

Walks into a dark and gloomy place where his car is parked, man in trench coat approaches, opening up one side he says "hey buddy, want to see some tanks, yea I got all the suspensions systems right here, you into that torsion bar stuff, we got that to".......

@m4sturb33f 3 года назад

It's just David with some glasses a black stocking cap in the coat

@IronDuke1815 3 года назад

Someone get poor David a glass of water! Sterling work as always howeve!

@PibrochPonder 3 года назад

I never knew the British army had a Cadillac in military service.

@polygondwanaland8390 3 года назад

It feels like Britain was extremely close to inventing the M113 with the Oxford carrier, but missed the trick of having a ramp in the back.

@nickdanger3802 3 года назад

The engine has to be in the front for that to be possible. Could be worse, the BTR 60 was designed with an open top for ingress/egress before someone figured out you had to have an air tight box for NBC protection.

@iatsd 3 года назад

I guess the British will just have to console themselves with inventing the APC in general with the Mk9 from WW1

@robb236 3 года назад

get David Fletcher a pack of lockets or tunes or fishermans friends asap ...... sounded like he needed them today .......... i love his tank chats, makes my day

@andrewengel3023 3 года назад

David was sounding pretty good in this video! glad to see he has been feeling better

@accesszero4803 3 года назад

Wow to think i was driving 432's in the early 2000's on exercises

@user-yp9nz6bs9q 3 года назад

That looked like Black Adder behind the wheel of the Oxford.

@matthaught4707 3 года назад

I'd listen to Mr. Fletcher read the back of a cereal box.

@Gjaeralaus 3 года назад

One small point David; 2:22 a clectrac steering isn't a simple braked differential steering, it locks a ratio on both sides by braking. Probably what you meant, but should not be confused with simply braking one side of a differential.

@dillonpierce7599 3 года назад

Curious if the museum would ever do a tour of the vcc. All kinds of gems hiding in there.

@timsweet3224 3 года назад

nice one Diddy ive been wanting to know about these carriers . Because i have never seen them in any of my books .

@Masada1911 3 года назад

We should mount a rescue party for the Oxford carrier in Pyongyang

@quintenvankasteel2437 3 года назад

Send in the Bob Semple tanks

@tommeakin1732 3 года назад

@@quintenvankasteel2437 Maybe we could send them David as a distraction while we carry out the operation. The North Koreans would love him. They could just sit him in the corner as a constant source of anti-British white noise. If we train him to be as negative about every western country, he could become the ultimate North Korean household accessory

@tommeakin1732 3 года назад

@The_Soviet_Penguin Perfect. Almost...too perfect... *COMRADE PENGUIN.* Did you think I would fail to uncover your true identity? You'd lay out the perfect plan for us to follow, then inform your Korean comrades of our precise movements - you dastardly avian socialist spy!

@alexrennison8070 3 года назад

@The_Soviet_Penguin Dropping an armoured vehicle from a moving Hercules onto the deck of an aircraft carrier would be something I'd like to see lmao. Good luck

@alexrennison8070 3 года назад

@The_Soviet_Penguin Yeah, that’s why I wished you good luck! Haha

@mikerussell8396 3 года назад

David could talk about dryer lint and make it interesting

@obugger 3 года назад

I've been reading about armoured vehicles for about 50 years and I've never heard of this. I guess that's why I don't have a job at Bovington!

@ronaldharris6569 3 года назад

That rolls Royce version looks like the prototype for fv,and 113 series of apc.just needs the front engine and ramp setup that is so successful now.

@richpurslow3283 3 года назад

I was thinking the second one was looking alot like the 432 and then he said that the 432 was adopted as an improved version. I think it was the road wheels and running gear and the flat sides that made me think that.

@Dreamw4lk3r 3 года назад

...as they always are when I am talking about them. Bound to be interesting! *Presses LIKE*

@VosperCDN 3 года назад

Another afv I'd never heard of, but now want a model kit of.

@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад

Try scratch building :)

@Kyle-gw6qp 3 года назад

Another fabulous video!

@gunner678 3 года назад

Brilliant!

@stayniftyGuyFaceMannPersonDude 3 года назад

David, putting it down for the 1 2 3 good stuff m8

@N_Wheeler 3 года назад

3:22 I'll bet 9 guys worth of kit in those easily accessible stowage bins above each track would stop a lot of bullets.

@milgeekmedia 3 года назад

Funnily enough, looking at the profile, you can see how this was the slow evolution towards the M113 or the AFV432... Which solved the getting in and out issue! :)

@spicybecca4899 3 года назад

I would love to see one of the stolly if you have one. fantastic video as always.

@seanshea8596 3 года назад

Tank Museum Drinking Game. Take a drink every time he says Torsion Bar suspension

@vhbeckett7706 3 года назад

Access was via a lovely wooden step ladder, now much sought after by collectors.

@vhbeckett7706 3 года назад

Gotta love how the heads of the crew stick out over the top of the sides! “Look mum, a sniper can see me!”

@ftffighter 3 года назад

Mr. Fletcher for world ruler

@cryptobox128 3 года назад

Classic Fletcherism: "quite an interesting vehicle, the same as they always are, when I'm talking about them". So true, so true.

@NottsAndDerbyLHG39-45 3 года назад

he's loosing his voice!! he's been talking about them for years!!

@HaloGrunt 3 года назад

yeah i did notice that

@doubleducks814 3 года назад

I'm talking about them. They must be interesting. You go David. respect.

@Wtdtd 3 года назад

You okay, Mr Fletcher? You sound like you have a cold.

@andrewclayton4181 3 года назад

These are new to me. Probably because they are post war. One topic I'd like to see a tank chat about is the WWI gun carrier. I've only ever seen a few pictures of them on the western front, I don't think an example survived. They were called gun carriers, did they have the ability to fire the gun from them? They also seem to be shown laden with general stores. I've also seen wheels hung on the side, were they for the carried artillery piece? Were they successful ? I've a lot of questions because apart from the odd photo, I've not seen any articles about them.

@sunnyjim1355 3 года назад

Never Change David. That's not a statement, or even a request - just a moniker.

@54tisfaction 3 года назад

The Cambridge and Oxford vehicles that became only a footnote in history...

@viandengalacticspaceyards5135 3 года назад

For getting in&out,it appears that the sides are hinged, though this seems somewhat impractical for quick action. Also, I can't figure how you would close them, once inside. Could this be one of those "...they thought it was a good idea at the time."?

@chrisca 3 года назад

Last time i was this early the Vickers 6 ton was still not obsolete

@harryballsacky 3 года назад

THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE MUSTACHE...

@blue2sco 3 года назад

Think I have a article by David on these vehicles in CMV.

@Keef19661 3 года назад

классный дядька!

@user-td9pk7bz6k 3 года назад

少しデザインが違うけど昔からエアフィックスのユニバーサルキャリアと対戦車砲のプラモデルが日本でも売っているなぁ👍

@martiniv8924 3 года назад

Cletrac /Oliver who made the hi speed tractors in WW2 owned by white ?, I’m sure my dad mentioned Oxford carriers in Korea , he also had a Cletrac DD (with a Hercules Diesel) Bulldozer in the 50’s which he rated highly 👌🏻

@9r33ks 3 года назад

What a great youtube channel :D

@Simon_Nonymous 3 года назад

4:45 Rowan Atkinson spotted!

@JimmySailor 8 месяцев назад

Brittain couldn’t find an engine for their new APC… then they saw the M3 Stuart… Same engine paired with a hudromatic automatic gearbox.

@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 3 года назад

"What should we do with this valuable experimental vehicle?" "Shoot holes in it I guess..." I wonder why so many former service vehicles or even experimental vehicles get sent to be used as targets when just a sheet of paper or sheet metal will do the same job better...

@rickv1007 3 года назад

Troops need realistic targets to shoot at and you demilitarize\scrap the vehicle at the same time.

@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 3 года назад

@@rickv1007 Is an abandoned vehicle actually more realistic than a well done mockup though, especially after it has already been shot to pieces? My first instinct would be no.

@BernardLS 3 года назад

If they fell into the ‘write a report trap’ after the first and perhaps second / third go at poking holes in the prototype they could assess the subject ability to absorb punishment after trying to poke holes in it.

@iatsd 3 года назад

@@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 An experimental vehicle is free and available. Building a target is additional expense. It's the same reason so many failed experimental vehicles are used for testing unrelated systems: they're there and already said for and otherwise useless. They don't become historically important until some time has passed for them to become historical.

@SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад

@@jimmehjiimmeehh9748 yes, at least for live HEAT/HESH ammunition as the thin sheet metal of a grind training target usually won't be hard or stiff enough to set off the fuse, and you need to train with the live rounds occationally so that the troops know what an actual hit effect looks like. If all you have seen is practice shell plinkers, you might not know the difference between a damaging hit and one defeated by the blast of the targets ERA or APS as you would only know that your shell will go boom on hit, but not how that boom looks like compared to other things that go boom.

@martingardener90 3 года назад

You could guess it had a Rolls engine - it's got the same axhaust as a Stolly!

@rayjennings3637 3 года назад

Probably a coincidence because of needing to get exhaust fumes well clear but I know what you mean.

@andreastveranger1331 3 года назад

Can you make a vid about operation Weserübung and The Norwegian Campaign?

@xirensixseo 3 года назад

how does one tell apart a Bren and a Lloyd carrier?

@maldoran9150 3 года назад

4:46 these guys look like a sketch troupe :D

@exploatores 3 года назад

am I the only one that get a urge to write "So that is the thing that. that i found coilecting dust in my grandfathers Barn." anytime somethig that only got a few known examples that exist today.

@billd.iniowa2263 3 года назад

I'm having trouble picturing 12 guys in this, with all their kit. Crew of 3 and 9 troops? Was that the standard size of a Brit squad back then? 9 men? Or should I say 9 sardines?