Hello Tank Nuts! We are kicking off June with another Tank Chat from Museum Curator David Willey. This week he will be detailing the Warthog. As usually do let us know your thoughts.
ST Kenetics does sell Bronco with their super rapid automated mortar system which is operational in Singapore. Not sure the same was offered to that ordered versions of China's JY813 with their version of mortar systems incorporated.
When u search old Warthog videos from 10 yrs ago, all the Brit troops were raving about the Warthog. There’s even a 4 part series on the Warthog on Ops in Afghanistan called “war wagons”. It showed a Warthog destroyed by a mine or IED. But everyone survived.
Drove one on herrick 19. Absolutely atrocious to drive on the road because of the vibrations, road wheels constantly fell off either because the bolts fell/vibrated out or the rim cracked around the bolts. ECM constantly broke because of the vibrations, cages constantly fell apart because bolts vibrated loose etc etc. the track was an absolute beast to put back in place, idler adjustment was permanently set to one position ruining the tracks quicker because it was perfectly positioned to swallow dust and seize it up. Air conditioning was terrible and never worked, the driver was out right beside the engine so you’d almost pass out from heat worsened by no cooling. Pretty good cross country though
I guess you were crew I remember watching them after ops it looked like they had alot of maintenance to do, was glad to be infantry in that case. On Herrick 18 we probably made the ride worse by putting a mountain of sand bags on the back as part of are defensive stores.
I was on 10/11 with these and they held up well on long patrols, weeks outside of Bastion with only minor servicing and repairs Maybe by the time you got them the years had taken their toll
The Majority of the photos of the Singapore units in the field are actually photographed on Australian Army ranges and training areas as Singapore uses Australia as their major training areas due to lack of space in Singapore itself.
During Vietnam, the US had the equivalent of UOR, it was called ENSURE. Expedited Non Standard Urgently Requested Equipment. Issue was since they were off the shelf purchases, it was hard for troops to get spare parts since they were not part of the military standard logistics. The US National Archives has the ENSURE project files for items. After Vietnam most of the equipment was discarded as well.
When I see this thing I just think of the top gear episode we're James goes over to "help" and the quote i love "everything here is named after a dog..except the warthog which is named after a warthog"...classic
I spent 2 weeks strait in one of these once upon a time in one cold January. She was a cold unit, had a hard time keeping my left foot warm. On the flip-side, my right foot never had that issue 😆I recall taking my right sock off so my foot would not sweat, put it on my left foot to deal with cold 😂 Wasn’t perfect but it worked.
I love stories like this. Just the things people do to cope with little mundane issues. It almost never winds up in history books, but I think future generations would be able to identify more with rhe guy with two socks on one foot than with the "big picture" stuff they'll learn in school
Threats are usually re active not pro active in the NZDF we sent our lads to Bosnia 🇧🇦 (1994-95) in M113’s and when it’s discovered that the armour couldn’t even defeat the 7.62mm x39 Short ammunition this information is leaked via the troops to family members to the NZ Media and the cogs of power moved quickly to suppress the public outrage and the M113’s are “Up Armoured” ie bolt on armour added the New Zealand Extended Company was attached to a British Battalion working out of the Santichi Camp with the Dutch
Interesting vehicle! Also reminded me immediately of the Finnish Sisu NA-110, a tracked vehicle quite similar to the Swedish BV 206. Probably just a coincidence, but the NA-110 is nicknamed "Nasu" in the Finnish army slang (supposedly a contraction of "nauha-Sisu", lit. "band-Sisu", from the manufacturer & track type), which happens to be Piglet's name in Finnish translations of Winnie-the-Pooh. The UK name of Warthog for the ATTC is quite fitting, looking like a beefed-up, 'roided Piglet. :D
Troops from the Singapore Armed Forces will know this vehicle very well (as the Bronco and variants), it was developed at the old STK premises at Ayer Rajah, where the old British Army REME used to be based in the '50s - '60s.
Too big and heavy to replace the Viking. Not enough of them to replace vehicles like CVR(T) and Bulldog is support roles. They would just be a massive logistics burden.
The variant you have is the training variant (which is why there are "T" on the vehicle) which is without the protection kits. The video got a few details wrong as well. Speaking from someone who was involved in delivering this vehicle to the UK MoD
I cannot think of another vehicle that fulfills the school run shoppin trolly space in UK than this.😂😂😂 Seriously it’s amazing. How much???❤❤❤❤❤🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🥃🥃
Even though the STK Warthog was procured under the UOR, it is still properly British because of the all important boiling vessel. Can anyone refute that?
It looks like a badass version of the Lost In Space chariot. I wonder if Ukrainian artillery units could use them to deploy their new M777 155mm towed howitzers.
Temperatures in Afghanistan sometimes exceeded 50 degrees, with the temperature inside some vehicles that didn't have a/c fitted measured at over 60 degrees with the occupants literally cooking inside. In 2007 the LDs deployed with their CVRTs without an adequate thermal shield between the driver and the engine. On one vehicle the driver's compartment was measured at 61 degrees. Some drivers had to be casevaced with serious heat illness with their bodies showing signs that they were being cooked! They developed an sop where the vehicle commander, who's turret were a much cooler mid 50 degrees, would at regular intervals pour a bottle of water over the drivers head in an attempt to keep them cool!
Great info, re the number plate...KC, how early is that? My Bedford TM was KB reg in 1985? How do the Army designate registrations? Anyone got a link please? EDIT Why was Warrior not used in Afghanistan? It may have but i have seen no pictures. 15 million for each vehicle? REALLY. Its an up armoured BV. 15 million, unbelievable. Again, a lot of people made a lot of money from soldiers lives. Shame on them.
Warrior was used in Afghanistan, by the armoured infantry company of Battle Group Centre South when I was there. 2 R Welsh, part of RRF then, latterly, the Household Cavalry battlegroups, in effect. D
somehow this looks very futuristic and at the same time a vehicle that has the very basic ability a tank should have - the ability to overcome obstacles . by the way greeks firefighters use a very similar vehicle - i don't know if it's related for dealing with forest fires and blizzards because they can go literally everywhere , again its strikes me as a suprise that this kind of vehicles aren't that Popular
They already have 18 units of bronco 2 send by the Germans whom bought with a special deal arranged with the Singapore government. These 18 units have been send to Ukraine early 2024 and have already lost one unit but none of the crew was harm as at today.
They won't. Kit supplied under the UOR and equivalent remained on the Treasury's books. If the MOD took it on, then it would be on the MOD's books, so the MOD would have to pay for it. It's why lots of vehicles were left in Afghanistan and Iraq, or in some cases. brought back to the UK to be scrapped. The scrappers had to provide evidence that every single piece was destroyed.
This looks like the perfect vehicle to have in SHTF or zombie apocalypse situation. Aboiut the only draw back that I can see to it, aisdde from maintenance which applies to any vehicles, are the rubber tracks. If they break or your throw a track, there's fixing or replacing them very easily, even if you have a spare set of tracks handy.
Rubber tracks are more reliable than you seem to think. The steel wire ropes imbedded in the rubber in them take a lot of breaking. That’s why most industrial tracked equipment use them now. They are also much lighter than the equivalent steel tracks. Wear is however an issue but they have less wear than the equivalent steel tracks with a proviso that you can’t just replace a track pad.
I like the history of the vehicles, but I was a bit disappointed we didn't get much of a look at the vehicle itself. With newer vehicles I feel like it shouldn't be too much of an ask for a look around inside.
I can see how this vehicle could still be useful if the hull was redesigned. The tractor could be MRAP and up grade engine through tuning if possible for the added cab weight.
This version came out well after the 206. As for earlier versions of the 202, there was the Sno Trac, developed in Canada post WW2, early 50’s perhaps.
9:16 In the future can you say a little bit more about cage armour? It still seems to be a very pervasive myth that these forms of protection are supposed to pre-detonate HEAT warheads, and somehow the jet is supposed to dissipate before it reaches the main body of the vehicle. As far as I'm aware, the is a form of cheap, relatively light protection that's supposed to give a vehicle a chance of surviving an attack with a chemical penetrator by just stopping the warhead's fuse from arming while damaging the projectile in the process. You alluded to that by saying "trap", but it's be nice to hear someone in your position go into a little more detail and perhaps deal with that myth
What z waste of tax payers money. The forces could still be using these as mortar carriers, starstreak carriers etc. Huge potential for these only for them to get binned.
@The Tank Museum Have you considred uploading 4K resolution videos? I know not all viewers will benefit from this, but 4K, especially on a large screen, really makes a difference. Being able to see that extra detail and texture is an awesome experience in itself.
With Halo being on everybody's minds recently, I thought this was going to be one of those joke videos where someone reviews a scifi weapon system as though it was a real one. ... and now I definitely want a Tank Museum video on the Warthog from Halo. Maybe they can borrow that gorgeous prop 'Hog from the TV show.
You can’t force people to want a better way of life. Just like Vietnam. But the fact is occupying Afghanistan drew all the extremist to one spot so they could be hunted instead of running around civilized countries doing harm to our civilians. So we really couldn’t lose in that way. Afghanistan was also a great test area for new weapons systems for every country involved. The U.S. looses more soldiers in peace time per year than when Iraq and Afghanistan were going full speed so it’s not like we lost that many soldiers we just lost them for different reasons. We now have a very experience military as well.
Those javelin missiles are now for sale on the internet. Can you see that it was a stupid idea to hand over sophisticated weapons to people that you don't know ?
When was the last time we defended British interests? The Falklands? Northern Ireland? Everything else is a complete waste of the MODs time but hey ho internationalism lets gooo!
Tension. K. Tooo much. Yapping. Far tooo streesssed trying to imprison people by thier. Ears. Hurtfull sad lonely. Man/child. Try. More. Vehicle. Picture post 2001. A. D. And throw in. Yabby from. Ex. M. O. D. Crew. . Spread. The. Wealth. ££33🇬🇧. And ease up on. Drivle. Jesus.
